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From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Corolla show. Adam's guest today, security specialist Gavin de Becker. Plus the news with Alicia Krause. And now, Adam Corolla.
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Pick it on Mandates. You get it on, man. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Kevin de Becker is our guest. He's a author, security specialist and raconteur. I'm just going to say that in advance. I want to know. I'm so fascinated in security. Seems, seems more now than ever. Is that. That sound about right?
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It does. Certainly more fear now than ever. More media equals more fear. And also more, you know, our work is mostly anti assassination work. And there's more assassination. Not only that, we've had our share in recent months, but also around the world as a strategy of war.
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Yeah, I mean, little weird stuff for me. Like, you know, you could do whatever you wanted back in the day and now you go see Greg Gutfeld and he's got security with him, you know. And that didn't exist in the past for dignitaries and presidents. That existed, but it didn't really exist for people on cable. True.
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Or audiences, for example, that in the past would not have weapons screening. And now the vast majority of shows that have live audiences have weapons screening.
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Yeah. I did a show with Megyn Kelly outside of New York a couple weeks ago and she had two magnetometers there. Cause she's Megyn Kelly. And that's the sad times we're living in. So for you, how do you start? Because most, when you hear about this stuff, it's always like ex Green Beret something, special forces something, CIA something. But how do you start in this business?
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Well, I certainly had a lot in my career that had to do with CIA and various government agencies. And when I was 26 or so, I got appointed by President Reagan to his Department of Justice advisory board. He was the oldest president, not old by today's standards of presidents. And I was the youngest presidential appointee at Department of Justice. And that was, you know, cool. And I got a lot of interesting experiences, but I have to obviously start before that, which is very violent childhood, lots of access to fear and drama. And the short version, I'm 71 years old, so I can say what I'm going to say with a great deal of dispassion because it's been so long. But the. I saw my mother shoot my stepfather when I was about 10 years old. She committed suicide when I was 16. A lot of violence. She was a heroin addict. We were on welfare and food stamps and lived in 10 places by the time I was 10. So I went to the University of Adversity, as I know you did, without even knowing your whole story. How do I know? Because you're funny.
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Oh, yeah. But I don't know. There's plenty of people in prison and in Africa and places that aren't funny that have seen a lot of trouble.
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True. But I'm doing the opposite side, which is to say that all our friends who are comedians, they went to the University of Adversity in one degree or another. Their childhoods prepared them for. It's very rare that you run into somebody who had just the greatest and easiest childhood. And they're very funny. And a good friend of mine who's a comedian says about another friend of ours who did have the great easy childhood, he said he's funny, but he can't weaponize it.
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Yeah, it's interesting that I have a friend who was class clown the year before I was class clown. And he's a successful guy now, but he grew up in sort of nice family. So he's a lawyer and he does whatever he does, but he doesn't have an axe to grind and he can't weaponize it, which is a good phraseology. Yeah, it's crazy. I was out to dinner with someone last night and he was just basically saying his sister killed herself and then her dad killed himself later when he was older. And I'm like, yeah, I guess there's just a lot more of that going on than we probably thought or maybe anticipated as a human being. I didn't really anticipate. It's a little counterintuitive, just all the violence and all that's going on. And if you also think about what you put at risk, if you kill your spouse or if you strangle your kid or do whatever, like you got a lot to lose.
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Yes.
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Most of these people don't have as much to lose. I do understand the concept of being really poor and not having anything to lose. It's sort of like I drove without insurance for 15 years ago. I was like, sue me. What are you gonna get? I got roommates and a futon. Good luck. You know what I mean? And it kind of is true. You know, there's a ver. I rode motorcycles in the rain all the time just cause who cared? You know, what kind of loss, really would it be from where I was? So I kind of get that. But you grew up with a level of violence that I didn't have. I didn't. We had poverty and depression, but we didn't have.
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Yeah. Depression, by the way, is also a form of violence to children because it does say it sort of sucks the life out of you. I'm Talking about depression in a parent. And it also becomes the center of the family and anything that represses you, which is ultimately what violence, let's say, centralized governments do throughout human history. Because ultimately, what enforces all these rules that we have, even the little rules, is the gun.
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Right.
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The big gun. I'm talking about the government. And so anything that suppresses who you are is a form of violence. And that's not, by the way, the woke version of silence is violence. But, you know, a kid in a situation where there's depression or there's addiction is not usually allowed to be who they are.
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Yeah. Or maybe even discover who they might be because you're just busy sort of putting out fires and not agitating people.
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Eggshells. Eggshells.
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Yeah. I had a mom that was very easily. Would spin off. Spin out pretty easily. And what you kind of learn is to leave them alone. And maybe you want this or you need a ride or you want money or you want something, and you just kind of keep walking because you don't want to agitate them and have them have a spell. And I do think. I don't know what you think about this, but I've kind of figured out that a lot of people use their mood in a sort of a way to blackmail those around them and that they get their way a lot and they don't have to do a lot of the stuff you want them to do because they're always teetering on an outburst or, now I'm gonna go in my room and cry or whatever it is, and you end up doing a thing where you go, I would like some help metaphorically moving these boxes. But Tim might spaz out if I ask him for help, so I'll just move it myself. Even though most of shit is Tim's.
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Yes.
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And they learn to kind of manipulate. Women are better at it than men, I think.
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But I was gonna say I dated several yes men. Several dozen women.
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Men do it as well. But women can really get you to a place where you're like, just.
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I don't want to leave it at the face. I don't want to. Just for sure.
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I don't even correct most women. Most women will go, you should nip that one in the butt. It's nip in the butt. But you know what? I'm not saying anything. I don't want to get into it.
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Yeah. Well, I think. But I certainly agree with you that that is, you know, what mood someone is in. And I have to be. You know, we all have to be responsible for not sort of bringing down the room and doing our best, and at the same time, be honest about what we're feeling or experiencing. That's also important. But that issue about one family member, you know, is gloomy and doomy and brings everybody down and then doesn't have to do the chores or do the hard. You know, the heavy lifting is a very real thing. And it sounds like you're familiar with it.
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It works on the family level. It works professionally. There's employees that. Where you go, could you come in on Saturday? I don't want to deal with it.
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Not even worth it.
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I don't want to deal with it. I'll just get. Scott will come in, and then Scott will go, I've come in the last three Saturdays. I go, I know, but I don't want to deal with Doug. He's going to get all pissy. I don't want to deal with it. And so there's a I don't want to deal with it mode, which essentially just means the other people in the canoe have to row a little extra. Because if we ask you to row, you're going to start bitching or crying. You either get angry or you'll cry, but either way, we'll just do the
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rowing for you or pout. That's one of the reasons.
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But eventually, we want to get away from you, of course, whether it's the mom, the sister, the home, or it's the employee. Eventually we just go, I don't want to be around that person.
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Why eventually? And why not sooner?
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Well, you know, the way I think, the way it worked for me, if you want to kind of do the arc, is my mom wouldn't do anything for anybody, and she wanted to be left alone, and she didn't want to do the stuff nobody wants to do, which is cook and clean and do laundry. And I want to interrupt crap.
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Most mothers do, in fact, want to.
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I should say. I'll put it to you this way. As a parent, there's stuff that sounds like fun to me, and then there's stuff that sounds like work to me. But if you're responsible, you do the work stuff. And I would say most mothers, if you gave them a magic wand and you said, do you want to do your kids laundry, or would you want to make them a sandwich? They'd go, I got a magic wand. All right, Boom, Sandwich, boom. Laundry. I don't have to do it. But they do it out of a certain amount of responsibility and obligation and maturity. Things like that let's not forget love and love.
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I remember when I raised 10 kids, eight adopted and two, my two birth sons. And I remember when the first boy was born. That was our birth kid. You're getting up in the middle of the night, you're not getting enough sleep. I obviously had other responsibilities, et cetera. And I literally never felt pissed off or bothered or annoyed. I was much more robotic. You're two in the morning, you're changing the diaper, et cetera. And so I remember many, many times my wife would say to me, well, all parents do that. And I'd say, let me correct you
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with a little story.
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All parents don't do that. There are plenty of parents who don't want to participate.
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Yeah, well, I think this is how I've always sort of described my family. There are things you would like to do and then things you wouldn't like to do. And then there's things you do for your kids and then do for a homeless guy or someone you didn't know or someone else's kid. You know, somebody said, you want to make your kid scrambled eggs? I go, yeah, make my kid scrambled eggs. Or they said, what about that stranger? Guys, kids over there, you want to make? I go, no, that's not. I'm not. I don't love making scrambled eggs. I'm just going to make them for my kid. So my parents just sort of did things like, everyone was a stranger, so if they wanted to do something, then you might do it with them. But use the stranger rule. Would you want to save for college for a kid you don't know? And the answer would be like, no, I'm not. I'll spend that money. That's my money. That's what you do. So they would just apply that to people that didn't know. That's how you kind of know what they did and they didn't do. What you learn is you learn to leave them alone real fast. Kids, they're like stray cats. Like, no milk. And that's awesome. Keep moving. Go to the next house, you move on. But you're nine or 10. You can't physically leave, but you just sort of ignore and go find food other places. And then at some point you turn 18, you just. And then that's it.
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Yeah, I think that's. That's a. I had. Obviously we had different experiences, but certainly a lot of what I learned as a kid about behavior, you know, there's a kid who will. Dad will come home and he'll go immediately to the refrigerator and pop open a beer. And the kid knows. He could predict the whole rest of the night. He knows how work was that day. He knows what's coming. So the ability to perceive mood. My sister and I used to meet at the front door. We'd get back from school, she was in another school, and we'd meet at the front door at 3:15 and we'd both say, you know, whoever got in first, what kind of mood is she in?
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Right?
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And so the mood was a very, you know, very important thing. And by the way, this is said with recognition of the many wonderful contributions my mother made in my life. Both the ones that I wouldn't do, you know, I wouldn't recommend that other parents do and the ones that were just intentionally favorable. But the reality is that for lots of kids, in a way my story is much easier because my story you can look at objectively and you can say, oh, this kid got beaten up a lot. There were guns firing off, the cops were coming and going all the time. But the mind fucking. Can I say fucking?
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Sure.
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Can I say it one more time?
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Go ahead.
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Fucking. Fucking. All right. Anyway, the mind fucking stuff that's much harder to unravel for people when they get older and want to heal. And I have a, a definition that has evolved in my heart and in my head about what is healing. And I think healing is when we stop using any of our energy to manage the past. So we're not. And then all the energy is available in this moment, so we're not as I was for many years, holding onto that story and putting that story together and fitting my life into that story. And this is why this line happened, and this is why this track happened. I can do it. I can tell you a narrative that says, oh, John Kennedy got killed when you were 10, so you were obsessed on anti assassination work. You can do those narratives. But I think that I don't want to use any of my energy to manage that story where all the people, all the people involved are dead, including me, because even the 10 year old me is gone. They're all gone. I remember one time saying to a therapist that I said I had a dream where I could see myself lying there asleep at 10 years old. And I said I was about, you know, like this big, like a little kid at 10 years old. And he said asleep is not a great metaphor because it means you can go and you can wake that person up. He actually preferred that they're all gone, you know, all these people are gone. I didn't intend to do a whole therapy session today, but that's as far as I can go.
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I marvel at the variety between parents and upbringings and fathers for a species. It's kind of bizarre that like, you know, I talked to. I was just spending time with a friend of mine in Texas and he told me two stories about his dad. And I marveled at both of them because they're both something my dad would have never done, good or bad. He said when he would, during the summers, the kid was on a farm, ranch, you know, I don't know, 11 years old, 10 years old. He'd get him up in the morning and he'd go, now listen, we're gonna go around the ranch and we're gonna make a punch list of stuff that needs to be fixed or mowed or pulled or whatever. And then I'm going to work and then you're going to fix all that stuff and pull those weeds and whatever and said, all right. So his dad would get him up at 7 in the morning, they'd go drive around the ranch and make a punch list. He said one day he came back, then he'd drop him off at the house and dad would go to work. But one day dad forgot something and turned back around to come back to the house, only to see this guy sleep. You know, he got back into bed, he did what everyone else would do and he just got back in his bed and went back to bed like an 11 year old. And he basically woke up to his dad beating him with a belt. Which it sounds so absurd when you become a dad. First off, just the absurdity of me telling my son, here's what you're gonna do while I'm at work all day. Sounds we're already into some sort of fantasy realm. But the idea that I would just walk in and he'd be sleeping and just quietly take my belt off with the big buckle on it, just start whooping on him while he's asleep, is insane. But then. And my dad would never do that. But later on he told me stories, something my dad would never do either. As he was out dirt bike ride, you know, his dad got him the dirt bikes and motocross bikes. XR75, Honda YZ 80s. I still remember them all because I wanted them so bad, but I never got near one. But he was out, he started racing these things and he was getting beat by the other kids. He was riding the Honda, the red bike. These guys show up in these green bikes and they're like, whooping everyone's ass. And he says, dad, you know, I can't beat these guys. But I think what we can do is take my Honda and we can put like a pipe on it, jet the carburetors and fix it up so I could compete with the green bikes. And the dad just goes, well, how about we just get you a green bike? Which I was like, I was blown away by the belt. I was more blown away by the dad going, I will just get you the Kawasaki then, and you can whoop up. And these kids, that sounded. They both sounded equally as insane to me, knowing my dad.
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Yeah, I hear you. Well, where you started with that was saying you were amazed at the variety of parents and parent experience we're within.
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One dad, one day you're beating on him, the next day you're getting him a Kawasaki.
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I agree. And that, of course, is part of the challenge of having rough parents, is that it's the same person who gives you love and sustenance and care, but it's the wrong day or the wrong mood or the wrong drug or the wrong moment or not enough sleep or just got fired or whatever it may be. The other piece is that even within the family, the different kids, like if you had siblings, each sibling has a different dad and a different mom. Siblings will say to each other, you know, oh, I remember when dad used to pick me up and he'd put me on his lap and put you on his lap because they didn't have the same experience. Right. The kid who was born two years later had a totally different experience, different dad. Right. And so it is. We are super complicated in terms of the number of narratives that go into building these creatures that we are, whatever we actually are.
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So for you, I mean, in doing, working with all these celebrities, I looked it up, but they're quite lots of big names, Travolta and Meryl Streep and all the A listers who now all. Everyone has to have security now, I'm guessing.
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Well, only about people usually don't know, but only about 7% of my clients are media figures, meaning our show business. The rest are corporate leaders or religious leaders or government figures. And a lot more focus on preventing tissue damage, meaning anti assassination work, as opposed to getting somebody into a premier comfortably or getting them back to their car, which was more of a thing when I was much younger. Security was more in that world.
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You know, I never. It's always a layman's thing for me. But like the guy who's the CEO of the healthcare Company insurance, you know, they go, where was his security? I'm like, well, let's just say had two big dudes who used to play junior college football standing next to him while he was walking through Manhattan. That guy still just came up behind him and shot him in the back. I don't know, maybe they would have, maybe something could have been done. But how do you prevent a bullet?
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Something could have been done, but not
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by those two dudes walking next to him, right?
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Well, it really depends. Positioning is literally everything, like in real estate, you know, location, location, location. So if you are, if you, you know, we all look at public figures all the time and see where the protectors are. We saw President Trump get shot on stage where the nearest secret service agent was 45ft away. That's pretty damn far away, right? And so if you are very close, either very close to the shooter or very close to the target, you can make a big difference and which direction you're looking in. And many, many strategies that go into anti assassination work. I'll tell you this, you know, for a successful assassination, typically of a protected person, now that executive you're talking about was not a protected person, of course, but of a protected person. Hundreds of things have to fall into place for it to work well from a security point of view. And really for an assassin, hundreds of things need to fall into place for it to work in terms of the assassination. And the odds are actually far more in the favor of the target than the assassin. I'm talking again about people with protection now, people without protection, that's a whole different deal.
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Yeah, well, I guess it's assassination protection because most people think of just some big dude walking next to you trying to get into the club or walk you out to the car as you get out of the club or something. But that's not gonna do anything in terms of assassination.
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It would be luck, meaning it would be luck if the person happened to be looking in the right direction at the right time. But for the real thing, which is, you know what my company does, the real thing, where we have targets who are profoundly at risk, the whole energy is different. It's basically an athletic function, which is you have a contest between somebody who's going to raise a handgun or a knife, rifle, I'll talk about in a minute. And a young fit, not a retired cop who's out of shape, but a young fit protector who needs to be in the right place and needs to understand not to be shy, etc. Rifle attack a little bit different. We Both, obviously, we all, you know, witnessed this sad shooting of Charlie Kirk. And assuming for a minute that we can believe the official narrative, and I'm only going to hold onto it for this one example, but assume that's all true, then it's possible that a $29 pair of binoculars would have made an enormous difference because there wasn't sufficient focus on the distant rooftops. And in the south, in America, rifle attacks have been more prominent. Jfk, Martin Luther King, Larry Flynt, et cetera. And in the north, it's been typically handgun attacks that's mixed up these days and that people are using every kind of weapon they can get their hands on. But could that assassination have been prevented? Yeah, very. Unfortunately, yes. Now, it's easy to be, you know, to be. What's that called when you say you're watching the football game?
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Armchair Quarterback Monday morning.
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But I'm, I'm not really that I'm, I'm bringing expertise to something and saying, all right, you know, if I showed up on that scene prior to the attack and it was our protective detail, I'd have a lot of questions about these other areas and I'd have a lot of questions about the sides of the tent being open and I'd have a lot of, you know, there's things we would do differently. And he knew, by the way, that he was an assassination target because he was taking it very seriously. And, you know, every time you ever saw him at one of those public appearances, he had protectors and they were fit, meaning they weren't, you know, retired guys who were out of shape. And he also knew he had, you know, substantial risk. Even in the days leading up to his assassination, he was aware of risk.
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Why did his protectors. And I think even more so with Trump, no one getting up to that vantage point saying that rake was too steep on the roof. Oh, that was something that sounded cohat in the insane. For anyone who's been on a roof, it's literally almost a flat roof. I actually looked it up because I used to frame houses. Any less pitch, it's definitionally a flat roof that was up there. And you're saying it was too steep to.
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There was a 70 year old Congressman who climbed around on that roof afterwards.
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Right.
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And the roof that the snipers were on, Secret Service snipers were on, was a much greater angle. I mean, the thing was ridiculous. Ultimately she got, you know, fired forI'm not saying, by the way, the precautions were ridiculous. I'm saying that concept of an excuse is we couldn't put people up who were supposed to stop bullets, for God's sake. But we didn't wanna take any chance that they might slip on the roof. Was embarrassing.
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They frequently offer up an embarrassing excuse. Like initially. And I just sort of look at it. I've been hearing with Biden, it was, oh, he had a stutter. Leave him alone. I'm like, I don't think I've ever heard Joe Biden stutter. I've heard him mispronounce people's names and forget capitals and stuff like that. But I've never. I don't think of him as a stutterer. I've heard him many speeches for the last 40 years. It didn't sound like a stutter. And then there was cheap fakes where it's like, that's just a clip of him falling down the stairs. I'm like, I know that's just a clip. But in the bizarre. Sort of talk you out of what? That roof is too steep to traverse. I'm looking at it. If I threw a tennis ball up there, it would take several minutes to roll down. That's how flat that roof is. So lots of. And Covid. They did it. Vaccinations. They did it like this. I don't even know what to call it. But this attempt to get you to a woman is a man. A man's a woman. We don't know what definition gender assigned at birth. Head starts swimming.
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It's very true. It's why I said a minute ago regarding Charlie Kirk, that if we can take the official narrative at face value, my view is. And by the way, I want to do. And get it out of the way. I want to make reference to this book and then never talk about it as long as we. No, me. I'll do it. I'll do it. You do it. So this book is called Forbidden Facts. And what it's about is how government does the very thing you're talking about. What are the strategies by which we are totally misled and how it is that we can believe what we believe about Agent Orange or believe what we believe about baby food or baby formula. Both have arsenic in them, by the way, or asbestos or. Or baby powder. All these. Or Covid or mass vaccination. So this book is a. I think really can change people's attitude about how the government does it. And I don't know where cameras are, but I don't know if that shows. But there are QR codes all throughout the book. So you put your phone on top of that, it takes you to the original reference. And now I never discuss it again, except to say that. Not about the book, but to answer your question, governments lie. And the more centralized and the more powerful, the more they lie. And throughout. You know, there's an incredible quote, by the way, I made a note of it to share with you, which is William Casey, who was the director of CIA under Reagan. He said, we will know that we have succeeded. I got to get it exactly, by the way, because it's a buck slip,
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by the way you're riding on.
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Is that a what?
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I love those. I call those buck slips. Those little pads. And you got a killer pen. There's a lot of precision in your world.
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Thank you very much. I've been planning for several months. This afternoon, listen to this quote. We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.
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Wow.
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And so that's going to your question, of course, something happens, either intentionally, most of the time. By the way, things are not organic. Meaning things do not happen. Our lockdowns, our mass vaccination, These are not an organic event where suddenly everybody's. Their office and they say, oh, what, there's a virus? That's not how that happens. Yes, a volcano. Sure, that might be a volcano event. You know, that might be an organic event. But when things happen, ultimately there is a narrative floated. And our intelligence agencies, and not just ours, but governments all over the world. And that's the business they're in, which is what shall be the narrative, what shall be. How shall we best exploit this situation?
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And so, you know, throughout human history, I think division is at the center of power. Meaning you want your population to be left and right angry about this and that. And throughout human history, the king and the queen would look over the wall and see their subjects fighting with each other and high five each other. Because it means they're not coming over the wall.
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Right?
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Because if they're not, if they're focused on the wall and there's always a wall, if they're focused on the wall, they're eventually coming over it because they know damn well there's no reason for that guy to be driving around in a gold chariot and I can't feed my kids.
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Right.
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Royalty as a concept, it's so broken. But it works because of the narrative.
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Yeah, it's very interesting. Well, first off, the people that are flying private and gaming Wall street and on their fifth house are explaining to you that some people don't have enough and other people need to give more. And it's a kind of a crazy. The premise is kind of flawed, except for if we're fighting, then it'll work.
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That's right. It doesn't matter. You know, right now, for example, I get asked often as anybody does, you say, what do you think about this war in Ukraine? Or what do you think about this war in Iran? All wars are justified. All wars have a story. And what everybody does every time, like we're like, we've lost our minds is say, well, this one's different, right? This is the Ukrainian people fighting for their da da da da da da. And they're defending their homes in a way that's never existed in human history. None of them are different. They're all the same. All the wars are the same. They're all about buying and utilizing weapons, and they're all about getting territory or getting dominance in one form or another. And the story is only for us back home.
A
Well, I think with something like Covid, it becomes confusing to most people because there are certain sort of governmental things that are sort of easy to suss out. So you go, you know, Gavin Newsom, my second favorite. Gavin, hang on a minute.
B
Okay, I'll take that position.
A
Thanks. Gavin Newsom. Oh, wait, Gavin McLeod was the name of the Love Boats captain. So now Gavin Newsom's my third. Oh, and then there's the guy from Bush, Gavin Troostheism. Okay, he's down to five. He's still my top five favorite guy.
B
Still a top five. It's a good position.
A
So you go, listen, what's he right? Well, he's against school choice. And then I go, I thought school choice was good and vouchers were good and they helped those poor brown and black kids that you talk about so often wanting to lift out of poverty. And you go, why would anybody be against school choice? And then they go, well, the teachers unions are the ones who actually give him money and help him get elected. And the teachers unions don't want school choice because they have a sort of monopoly. And they go, oh, that's why he's not. Cause it didn't make sense, but now it makes sense. With stuff like Covid, it's not as easy to connect the dots. Now, I was never down with it. I knew they were lying. I yelled about it in every microphone they put near me. I pissed off everybody. I tweeted about it. I never let up on it. And I knew it early, super early, because I'm pattern related. And patterns were broken. And when I didn't see the pattern, I got suspicious. And I don't know, it's like somebody that is insanely prompt. Like Dr. Drew's insanely prompt. But if I come in here and he's supposed to be here at 10 and his car's not out in the parking lot, I go, what happened to Dr. Drew? Pattern broken. Then there are other people in my life who are late all the time. They're not in the parking lot at 10, 10. I don't ask where they are. Pattern, pattern. So there was a lot of pattern breaking that made me suspicious. But most people would say, well, the government doesn't benefit from COVID or lockdowns or people. And I know it got very politicized, for sure.
B
I laughed at the concept that governments don't benefit from something like lockdowns.
A
Well, you can explain it, but what I'm saying is we don't directly understand the correlation like we do with the big unions and payrolling, bankrolling senators and governors. And that's an easier connection. The stay home benefit to the government feels counterintuitive. Feels like, well, they're gonna hand out checks, you're not gonna be working, you're not gonna be paying as much in taxes, blah, blah, blah. But unravel it for us.
B
Well, a couple of things. One is that there's been a, you know, throughout Human history there has been an effort to dominate, for few people to dominate and control the largest possible populations. Yes, if we go back a thousand years, there were about a thousand little governments. There was the shogun, there was the chief of the village, and there villages, there were many, many little chieftains of all variety. In our lifetime, yours and mine, there'd be about 190 countries. But in reality they are about 5 power centers. Right? The NATO countries and then China and then the oil producing countries and eventually that'll get down to two. And then those two fuckers have to kill each other in a room. And that's the way that goes throughout human history. This idea that we grow up with, where we start to, you know, to answer your question about these narratives, that sometimes you can connect it. But with COVID you're going, hey, what the hell's going on here? Let's say you say with COVID Well, maybe the idea is that mass vaccination will be the most successful product in human history, which indeed it was far and away far bigger than Coca Cola. Most successful consumer product in human history.
A
Vaccines in general.
B
Well, this mass vaccination campaign because paid for by the government and mandated by the government. You didn't see Pfizer didn't have to advertise, they didn't have to chase you around to get you to do it. The government was saying, oh sorry, you can't put your kids in school unless you do it.
A
Right.
B
And then the original cell that everybody wanted to hear, it's, you know, it's one, one shot and then you're immune for life. Well now it's two today. By the way, if you followed everything the CDC said up until Bobby Kennedy, you'd be at 14 boosters. Right, right. And one a year for life and starting at six months.
A
Right, right.
B
For a disease six month old has any challenge from. So I just want to make finish this one piece. So when you say, you can say it's an easy straight line for money, right? But there's something much bigger than money that is going on in the world when you take that helicopter up a little bit higher. And that is control. And control is what governments are in the business of doing, which is protecting centralized governments, big ones protecting the government against who? Who is the US government really afraid of? Or any government? The Chinese? The Russians? No, they're afraid of their own population always. And so a thing like lockdowns, which had you couldn't get no army in the world could have mounted a campaign that would get everybody on the fucking planet to go into house arrest, basically. This lockdown thing, not only is it an extraordinary accomplishment, but it's also one of the darkest possible things we could ever have experienced. A whole generation of kids, you know, profoundly wounded universities, and I'm not a big fan of universities, but universities suddenly had to start taking in people who had not graduated high school or who had only done GED because the kids were out of high school for two years.
A
Right.
B
And so universities that you couldn't get into before, all of a sudden you could get into. I look forward to them having more trouble getting, you know, getting customers, I call them, not students in any event. But the. It is enough for governments to have massive control and particularly around. And I want to just give you a fast compliment here. You won me over during that time because you were braver, sooner and clearer than the vast majority of people were. And then you paid a price for it. And I imagine, you know, aspects of the price that I don't even know. But you were complete pariah. You know, you were in the sort of Bobby Kennedy Jr. World immediately on the basis of not buying this story. You just didn't buy this story.
A
I didn't.
B
Yeah. And I didn't either. And it was a. But I did it. You know, I got a lot of facts early because I had an obligation to clients. So In March of 2020, we got the first real, real data, and it was from Italy, Northern Italy. And what we learned in that is that in order to die from COVID there were about eight things you needed to do. First you had to get Covid. Then you had to ignore that you had Covid. Right.
A
March 2020. So right at the beginning, yeah.
B
Then you had to stay home until you got really sick. Then you had to go to a hospital. Then you had to be admitted, which most people weren't. Then you had to come back. Then you had to be admitted. Then you had to get into
A
Ventilator.
B
No, before that, you had to get into sort of the higher levels of care, the icu. And even then, Adam, even then, your odds were higher than 95% survival rate. In fact, even if you were 90, your odds were higher. I'm gonna give you a stat that's easy to remember. To me, it's the most important stat coming out of. Out of lockdowns, and that is that in Canada, 70% of all deaths attributed to Covid. In Canada, I'm choosing candidates as a western country, you imagine they're doing good Stats were residents of nursing homes. They weren't just old people, they were people living in nursing homes. Now what do you do in a nursing home? You die, right? There are very few people in a nursing home. And then, oh, in three months, I'll see you later, right?
A
Oh, yes, yes. It's the elderly.
B
It was the elderly and the morbidly obese. That combination. It was not a problem for 60 something. No, it was not. But what were we told over 60? You're going to die. Touch the pizza box, you're going to die. Touch the groceries, you're going to die. Touch the tabletop, you're going to die.
A
Yes.
B
All of that was belied immediately when we got those stats out of Italy. It just wasn't true.
A
Yes, they knew it early. When did I put my famous tweet out that everyone loves so much? I think it may have been March of 2020 when I upset everybody with my tweet. Well, I think they covered it in Newsweek. But for me, I study patterns almost rhythmically so I know what's going on with people and what to do this time and what not to do next time. And I'm very, I don't know savanty about patterns. And so I, and I also listen to a lot of talk radio, a lot of AM talk. And my whole life I listen to AM talk radio. And they would always go, a 67 man from year old man from Gardena, died in a gardening accident. And then at some point you can hang on, hang on to the tweet for a second. And then they'd go, and a man, a woman from Burbank, 31, died in a motorcycle accident. You know, and I always had an age attached to whoever died in this accident. Now they would never say their name. They would just say, this man from Palos Verdes, comma, age, age, comma, age, comma, h. It was always comma h. And all of a sudden I'm driving around and I'm hearing, oh, somebody else died of COVID this guy died of COVID And this woman died of COVID And I go, but where's the age? Where's the age? And I'm wondering out loud about it. I go, this is a pattern. Why did they stop? And I started bringing it up to people and I even brought it up to news. I interviewed a news guy from an AM radio station. I go, what happened to the ages? And he went, you know, ta, ta. And I said, people even told me, oh, it's some sort of God, I'm sorry, HEPA thing or something, you Know, it's an information thing. They're not. And I'm like, medical. Yeah, yeah, like freedom of confidentiality. I said, they're not giving the person's name. You can say 71 year old, died of COVID You don't have to give me the guy's last name. Probably HEPA thing. I was like, our HIPAA thing, violation. I said, no, no, that's not what it is. And everyone looked at me and just went, I don't know, keep walking, shut up, nobody cares. And I said, no, this is a big thing because I bet these people are insanely old and they don't want to tell us they're insanely old because that's not gonna make us worry. What makes us worry is the kids. The kids. When the kids are vulnerable, they do it with the kids on everything. What about the children? What about the children? The second you find out that this is relegated to 95 year olds, then you're. No, the second you stop worrying about your own kids, it's the second we go back to business as usual as a society. So I caught on. Oh, my Tweet is from August 2020. That got me in trouble. You will enjoy this tweet. I'll read it to you. But this is the first year, turns out the people dying from COVID or old or sick or both. How many pussies got played and who's getting played the next time? And then everyone went nuts on me.
B
Yeah, I'm gonna probably have to leave now that I've seen that you wrote that you said a lot of things that stimulate comments that I want to share with you. One thing is that in that Italy, the Italy stats I got In March of 2020, the average age of a person who had died of COVID in Northern Italy was 81, which means they had already lived longer than the average lifespan, which was 77 in that country. And then with regard to age, the other thing that they dropped, that media dropped, is cause of death constantly. Now, if a 30 year old person died, our entire lives in that article would be cause of death. And if it wasn't in that article, there'd be another article a few days later that they've learned the cause of death. By the way, I don't know where to hold that up, but this is another book of mine. This book broke my heart.
A
Cause unknown.
B
Cause unknown. Basically they switched to cause unknown. And this book is just literally, I mean, it's so visual, I can. It's easy to show and kind of worth it. I don't know where your cameras are, but it's just literally news story after news story after news story after news story of young kids.
A
Sorry, flipping it around.
B
There you go. Of young kids falling down and dying in front of people. Because the ones that weren't in front of people didn't make the news. And so we looked in here and I found the most important study that had ever been done on athletes dying during play. And it happens because they're pushing it, right?
A
Very rare.
B
Well, here's how rare. The Lausanne study. Lausanne, Switzerland did the study and they did 32 years of study and the average was 29 people per year. During COVID there wasn't a month that was 29 people, not a month. And there were many months that were 129 people.
A
Yeah. So many questions.
B
Yeah.
A
One. Another thing I started to stumble onto, but I'd be curious if you have any thoughts about this at all, is I'm used to folks who are trying to scare everyone all the time. It could be Covid, but when AIDS came about, equal opportunity killer, heterosexual, gay, it doesn't matter. Yes, it matters. It matters greatly. But they just try to scare you. It's basically, if you tell a doctor I smoke one cigarette a month, they'll go, that's just as bad as a carton. You gotta quit. One cigarette a month, you've gotta quit. It's just as bad. Our whole thing is, I don't care, just fear, quit, whatever. Everything that eventually we have here, it shifts to Africa. Like AIDS shifted to Africa. So at certain point they'd go worldwide. AIDS can kills more. And when they say worldwide, they're not talking about Switzerland and the United States, they're talking about Africa because it's scary. All through Covid, I heard no doom and gloom about Africa, which did far better than the United States. Right. And I was like, so during the time, I'm like, usually Africa gets thrown in our face. What about the people from Africa? They were talking about Italy. They were talking about everywhere but Africa.
B
I'll give you a great statistic.
A
The average age.
B
No, it's this.
A
And hydroxychloroquine probably too.
B
In the United states, we have 4% of the world's population. We had 16% of the COVID deaths. People in Africa did vastly better.
A
Yes.
B
And in the end of this book, and in both of these books actually is a look at countries all over the world. And what you see is the COVID deaths followed by the all cause mortality deaths that are much more likely to be from mass vaccination. Meaning, you see, this is going along like this, going along like this. And then the vaccine arrives in Vietnam. Holy shit. The thing goes crazy. And then they say, oh, we got ourselves a real pandemic. But Africa did very, very well because African countries did not buy into the topic in the same way. And also, you know, we had more obesity. We had more morbid obesity.
A
Yeah. Well, all of a sudden, they average younger than we do, and they're skinny.
B
Yeah.
A
And there is a half of them on hydroxychloroquine, which may have done that. So, of course, what they didn't want Ivermectin as well. Oh, sorry, Ivermectin. Okay. What they didn't want us to know.
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is it. These guys were doing better because they were young and they weren't fat and they were on ivermectin. Those are things they did not want us to know. So they never explored Africa.
B
They also weren't ultimately part of the mass vaccination programs in the ways that the west was. I'll give you another example of this age thing. So tetanus is an interesting thing. So tetanus is very, very, very hard to get. Right. The number of tetanus deaths in the United States is almost always zero. Over 20 years, over 10 years, there were 13 tetanus deaths. All old people.
A
Right?
B
Right. And yet everybody's told, oh, you stepped on a nail. Most people in America believe that tetanus comes from rusty nails. That's not what it comes from. What tetanus comes from is it's a bacteria that is on anything that might puncture you deeply but is incredibly rare and hard to find. It's one of the lowest death rates you could possibly imagine. Plus, when you get to the hospital and you say, oh, look, I accidentally stuck myself with this knife in the kitchen, they're gonna give you tetanus shot anyway.
A
Right.
B
Even if you took one three months earlier. My point is not that tetanus is nothing, but, man, it's damn close in terms of the number of people who die from tetanus.
A
Go ahead, I'm gonna blow your Mind.
B
I'm ready.
A
Chuck or somebody. Yeah, go get that. Do you know what a crash helmet is, Chuck? Young guys don't know what anything is anymore. They don't know what duct tape is.
B
You're not about to give me a tetanus injection, are you?
A
No. I'm gonna show you something's gonna fight. Go get that helmet that's sitting on top of that white and bring it in, because I will. I'll take your tetanus and raise you one, because Paul Newman's racing helmet is back of the shop here. Now, on the back of Paul Newman's racing helmet, it has a couple of pieces of information that they would put on there with the. With the tape back when they would. Oh, my God. You brought a football helmet in here. Oh, my God. All right. On top of the white bookshelf. Is that on top of the white bookshelf in the back? It's good. Young people don't know. They can't follow instructions. They don't know anything. They don't know what anything is. It's nuts. You say, go back and get some masking tape and bring it back. They go, I don't know what that is. There's a helmet that's sitting on top of a black. Oh, so he doesn't know what. It then shows a football helmet and a crash helmet. All right. So anyway.
B
Yeah, that might be.
A
It's a helmet that is sitting on top of a white bookshelf in the back of the shop. It's a crash helmet. A racing car helmet.
B
Right.
A
I'm only marveling because it's insane what people don't understand. All right, go get it and just bring it here. Just sitting on top of the thing now. Then I become obsessed. Or somebody can go get. The point is, is I'm this close
B
to going and getting the damn thing myself.
A
I'm. I'm marveling because it's just sitting on top of a white bookshelf and it's a crash helmet. That's. Andrew, maybe you can go. Oh, it's all right.
B
But it'll be here within the next 45 minutes, correct?
A
Yeah.
B
All right.
A
Oh, does this one sitting on top of the white bookshelf in the back? Yeah. Okay, well, just do what I say. That is fine. All right. P.L. newman.
B
Yep.
A
Date of birth, type, blood o positive. Date of birth, 12625 Tet. This is the date of his last tetanus shot. Because you could have if you were going to race, right. And they were pulling you out of the car and maybe you're unconscious, then they'd want to know when you got your last.
B
It's very good. And the idea, by the way, that there would happen to be the bacterium of tetanus on something at the racetrack. It's almost impossible to find.
A
Yeah, but we do so much. And also people's. During COVID when Gavin Newsom was closing the beaches down and they're closing my kid's school down, and everyone was getting yelled at for not wearing a stupid paper mask, I looked around and screamed at everyone, what the fuck are you doing? Why are you listening to these people? What is going on? How did you get this malleable, this quickly? Like what happened? You were formally intelligent, articulate, educated folks that could tell right from wrong and could kind of suss things out. You guys just all filed up, queued up, got in line and started marching toward a cliff behind the sheep and the lemmings. When did this happen? How did it happen so quickly? What happened to everybody?
B
Human nature. You know, The Great Book 1984, which was. I was so happy in 2020. I mean, I was dead unhappy in 2020. But I found.
A
Turn your mic.
B
I found that. Thanks. I found that in 2020. 1984, which was written 70 something years before, became the 17th best selling book in the English language.
A
Wow.
B
In other words, people were paying attention. People were seeing that this is a totalitarian behavior. They were seeing some people, obviously not all. But in that book is such a beautiful example of, you know, the constant description of our enemy. Our enemy, our enemy. And. And our fight that's going on on the front. And then one day in the book, it just switches to the enemy becomes the friend and the friend becomes the enemy. And everybody goes, okay, yeah. In fact, we're experiencing it this week. Right. This week you have a president who. One of the great things about Trump is he didn't really like war and, you know, he's gonna stop the forever wars, et cetera. I'm not commenting on the cause. There's always a narrative to these wars. But the. But everybody who was so opposed to it is okay.
A
Yeah.
B
Or what we saw happen with left and right. Right. The left were not the neocons, and then the left became the neocons. Right. And the right. In other words, people are, you know, you use the word lemmings. We're social animals and we follow information and we. Nobody wants to be the one who. Like my family in Covid, we were. I was at the kids school and they were not Allowed to touch the door handle if they wanted to go to the bathroom. The teacher had to get up with plastic. And you couldn't have the fourth graders and the 10th graders together, even though they came in the same car. You couldn't have them together on the playground. Right. And I was standing at the school and I thought, ah, I'm never coming back to this school again as long as I live.
A
Yes.
B
And we started our own little school. We got 21 kids. And slowly my family would start to just stop wearing the masks in places. And people would look at you. Sometimes somebody, you know, the typical one was a flight attendant would tell you to move it up so it's higher over your nose. Then you take it down to drink. I mean, the whole thing was literally
A
mask up in between bites.
B
Exactly. And you could eat the pizza, but you couldn't touch the box it came in. I mean, the madness of it all. Absolutely crazy.
A
I'm curious. I don't even know what Joe Biden knew exactly.
B
I think he believed everything.
A
You think they got him to believe?
B
I do. I have a dear friend who's in the new administration, and when he got to his agency, he said that most people were really true believers. Were really true believers in this. In the whole narrative of the need for mass vaccination. I mean, this was really mass vaccination. This was billions of doses of a brand new product.
A
Yes.
B
Right. That had not been tested on human beings. And I don't know if you've had Robert Malone on your show, but. But he's a dear friend of mine and he was the original developer of MRNA and dead set against it. We should have, like, we should have listened.
A
Well, they were deplatformed immediately.
B
Oh, my God. Of course he did a. It was before Rogan. It was that show Dark Horse with Brett Weinstein.
A
Yeah.
B
And. Oh, yeah, he was. He was destroyed. All those doctors are my friends, by the way, who took such heat around Covid.
A
It was easy. It was super easy for me. It's. Why are they wanting this person to shut up? Badly? And then maybe I should listen to them. And then also for me, Fauci outed himself when Jim Jordan was talking to him in front of Congress and he wanted him. He asked him about Black Lives Matter rallies and he wouldn't answer. And I said, oh, this guy's compromised.
B
And you remember they said, actually, it's a public health issue.
A
Oh, right. They should be allowed not to march as well.
B
They should be allowed to march.
A
So I was like. I was like all right, These guys are all compromised. Rochelle Walensky said, open schools, and then got her hand slapped and then went back and said, don't open schools. And I was like, this is all abundantly transparent or evident to me.
B
Do you remember that book I said I'd never mention again? That book right there, Forbidden Facts, that has so much about how the government does that game. Using the Institute of Medicine.
A
So Gavin Newsom shuts the beaches, which
B
was, by the way, the place to be. Vitamin D, wind. And it's ours on top of that, right?
A
Yeah, it's ours.
B
But Target store. But the Target store, which is air conditioned and is circulating every virus and keeping it nice and cool for you. That was open, right?
A
So what is he now? He doesn't believe in it because he's going to the French Laundry and he's going to the SOFI stadium with no mask and eating chocolate.
B
And maybe his kids went vaccinated.
A
Oh, the Rochelle Walensky thing where she's talking about her son and he can't go to camp and she wants everyone to get vaccinated, but she won't let her son go to camp. I'm like, how about you get your son vaccinated and then let him go to camp? It was all over the place. But what is Newsom doing when he's closing the beach?
B
Well, the same as all the mayors. The mayors went nuts everywhere.
A
Right.
B
You know, you'd go to in the beginning, when courthouses were still open all over the country, you'd go and they'd aim a thing at your forehead to take your temperature before they let you in. It's all the exercise of power. And if you run for public office, you have certain limits on your power. When that cap is taken off, you're going for the fun now. So, for example, if we take the U.S. constitution. You remember that?
A
Yeah.
B
Very good. Anyway, I'll tell you about it later, but was once very important. But anyway, if you take that, the citizens can do whatever they want that is not specifically illegal, and the government can do only that which is specifically. They cannot do anything except that which is specifically made legal. Well, obviously, all that's gone. So mayors and governors and every health official, they would go as far as they could go. And there was even a contest. Right. If you were a governor of Hawaii, we're gonna be the state that makes you prove that you got the vaccine before you come into the state. We're gonna be first. Right. By the way, San Francisco was the first city to do lockdowns. So Newsom was, you know, was ahead of the curve. But lockdowns are one of the biggest crimes against humanity that is imaginable. And you know, I think far worse, the combination of lockdowns and mass vaccination with a product that turned out to not be a safe product for some people, about 12% of the people, I think that's worse than World War II.
A
What do you think's to come more with the vaccinations?
B
More. Because thei mean, luckily we have at the moment, you know, RFK Jr. Is in that job at the moment and that doesn't last forever. And he's doing a lot of great things, but it's a big mountain to climb. It's the largest government agency in world history in terms of budget, 1.7 trillion. It's bigger than the Pentagon. And it has a lot of responsibilities with regard to obviously food and various products. But it is an entrenched bureaucracy that is broken. And the majority of people who were FDA, you know, there's one CDC Dr. Gerberding, head of the CDC, she immediately leaves and she becomes the president of Merck Vaccine Division, multimillion dollar division. The last director of administrative FDA is now on the Pfizer board. On and on and on.
A
Everyone falls up. Yeah, Rochelle Walensky gets everything wrong about COVID and now she works for her.
B
Yeah. So it's easy.
A
That's how they just do it.
B
And there's. You know what? I just want to tell you one thing that is covered. You know what I did is look at many of the. To answer your question, which is how is it that we're willing to suddenly stand in line to do this crazy ass thing? Right, Right. And how can it be so easy to tell a story and have skepticism just be completely gone? And one of the ways the US government does it, and even Germany did it, but one of the ways the US government does it is through something called the Institute of Medicine, which does these major studies and comes as big experts and comes out with these big statements. You don't know it's in this book. And most people don't know that the Institute of Medicine is a private organization. It's not a government organization. The guy who runs it gets a million bucks a year. And they get paid by pharma. They get paid also by government. But they would say, for example, government wants to say, well, we used Agent Orange on a shitload of people. We know that it causes death and that it causes birth defects, but let's give it to The Institute of Medicine. And they'll come back and they'll say, no problem. No problem at all. It took 20 years for the Institute of Medicine to come around, by the way. They would do a report and they would conclude this was their conclusion at the end of a year, spend two and a half million bucks. More studies needed.
A
Right.
B
But they only did that nine times. And then finally they said more studies needed on the actual people who were affected instead of just reading papers. Right, right. 50 years ago, Johnson and Johnson went to the FDA and they said, look, we have to tell you something. Our baby powder has asbestos in it and it causes cancer. And the FDA said, okay, we're going to study how much baby powder. I mean, how much asbestos should be allowed in baby powder. Now you've had kids, I've had kids. How about zero? Well, it took them 40 something years. And you know what year they finally came through and said, okay, Johnson Johnson, you have to eliminate the asbestos in your baby powder. I won't really make a guess, but it's 2023. The end of 2023, in other words. Are you kidding me? And this is when they knew it all. So the government is actually in the business of protecting industry. This goes both ways. And so you're a natural skeptic. Right? And I am, too.
A
I don't. I'm not a natural. If you told me that you were all city football player and that you had a black belt in Taekwondo. Both true, by the way. Yes. And you can do a Rubik's Cube behind your back and whatever else you said, I would believe every single thing you told me. I would never walk away and go, that guy's so full of shit.
B
You're open to it.
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You tell me something. I believe it.
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Yeah.
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You start breaking patterns. I don't believe it. If you go, I'm a billionaire. And I go, that's great. And then we go out to lunch and you go, I'm coming up just a little short today. And then I start going, that guy's got a billionaire now. Can't buy a sandwich start. And then you say, you have a Rolls Royce. Right. I just saw you take an Uber back. Well, that's in the shop. I will start putting something together, but if you just tell me everything. I have a Rolls Royce. I'm a billionaire. I'm a Taekwondo black belt. I go, yes, he is.
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So I'm quite similar to that in the sense that I'm open to all ideas, but when it comes to centralized governments or centralized power centers, Power centers, includes big pharma, includes corporations in America. There I'm skeptical. And I recommend to people that the first question you ask when the government wants you to hear something is, why do they want you to hear it? And then the second question you ask is actually 10 questions, which is you just keep. You ask the first one, the second one, the third one, you make them prove it to you and don't. Just by the idea that I'm gonna take my infant into a pharmacy and let somebody give an injection.
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Well, for me, it's when people have competing thoughts. So I was 100% off of Fauci because he was saying, no ball games, no churches, no gatherings. No gatherings. And then someone said, except these gatherings. What about Black Lives Matter? Of course he should have said, well, if it's a gathering, I'm against it. I'm not here to weigh in on the social import of stuff. I'm here to say, a gathering is a gathering is a gathering. It could be Klansmen and it could be nuns. No gatherings. But he fought very hard. Also, when smart guys play stupid, when they go, I haven't really looked into that yet, or I haven't really given it much thought, or I don't know when that. When. When Fauci, who knows everything, all of a sudden doesn't know anything, he goes, I don't know. Why are you asking me? I'm not here to. Then I go, okay, smart guy playing dumb and also wild, inconsistent thought with everything else he said. Now I know he's lying, and now I know he's compromised. Now I don't know when he's lying. I just know he's a liar about some stuff. And I know he's compromised, and I think I'm going to understand what direction he's going to lie in.
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So I have a question for you, because that's helpful, what you just said about sort of how your brain works in this regard. And my question is, you came out, you did that tweet, you had an opinion that was very, very offensive to many people because you got to protect grandma. And how do you know more? Do your own research. Who do you think you are, et cetera, et cetera. My question for you is, how many people have come back to you now and said, hey, Adam, I had a really bad reaction to when you said such and such, but it turns out
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on the back of this page, but
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it turns out when you were right. Okay, Can I tell you. Zero. Yeah. Can I tell you my number?
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100%. Zero.
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Can I tell you my number one?
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One?
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Yeah, one person. Bennett, a friend of mine, and I tell him all the time, son of a bitch. Man, you are really impressive, because he came back and he said, you know what? We wish we hadn't vaccinated our kids. We wish we'd listened to you at that time. You were right, we were wrong. That is so rare.
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I will bet you Bennett is a successful person.
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Yeah, he is.
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Yeah. And also the kind of person you could trust about anything. Now, in terms of Jeezy, lying, whatever. Now, this seems isolated, but it's not isolated. It's a character thing. And this guy Bennett has high character.
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Yeah, it's true.
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Nobody.
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And he's also open to. Because that very thing you said where I could tell you I was the. A taekwondo black belt. You're open to that? Well, you have to also then be open to the idea that maybe the government isn't telling you the truth or maybe the governor isn't telling you the truth. It's just openness. It's the same animal.
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I mean, to sort of be fair,
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Dr. Drew, I saw his transition.
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I said, hey, Fauci, he's lying. I don't trust that guy. And he was like, no, no, no, no. Fauci's a good guy. Fauci. And he did circle back and go, I was wrong.
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He did a great job. I saw it happen publicly because I saw the. You know, I saw the move. I saw the move with a dear friend of mine, Dr. Pierre Cory, who in the beginning, he went and testified before Congress about ivermectin. And, you know, here's ivermectin, which won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry. There's a statue to Imuro, the guy who developed it, at the. At the Carter Center. There's a statue at the World Health Organization to the guy. But all of a sudden, of course, it's an animal medicine. Well, it is an animal medicine, like antibiotics are in animal medicine. We have the same biology.
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I tweeted out. They have brushes for people and for horses.
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Yeah, it's very good. It's very good.
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Is that that hard to wrap your mind around?
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Of course. So anyway, this doctor friend of mine, Dr. Pierre Cory, he goes and he testifies before Congress about the value of. Of ivermectin and other things for treatment. And he was an emergency, very prominent emergency room emergency medicine doctor. And he truly believed when he got there that he had solved the problem of the pandemic and that everybody was going to say, that's awesome. And that people were gonna start testing it and using it in hospitals. He was so stunned to, you know, lose his medical license and get thrown out of the hospital and all the stuff that actually happened. And I saw the journey to where you get from, why is this happening right now? Why, by the way, was Ivermectin so vilified? Because the vaccines were under an Emergency Use authorization eua. You're not allowed to get an EUA if there's an approved medicine that can be used. And so they had to destroy Ivermectin and anybody else who said anything about it.
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Yeah. The bigger question for me is, like, you take the ladies from the View, and I don't think they're inherently.
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Take them where, by the way. Because I don't want to take them anywhere.
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Take them to Davy Jones lockers where I'd like to take them. But I don't think of them as inherently evil or bad, just like I don't think anyone who argued with me was inherently evil or bad. Somehow very easily corruptible and somehow very fast to take aside on a case they haven't heard any of the evidence on. But you have Cheryl Hines going in there, who I adore, and RFK Jr. I adore as well. And the ladies on the View are turning on her because she thinks. They think what? That RFK Jr. RFK Jr. Is talking about eating healthy food and getting exercise and leading by example and taking red dye number 17 out of Twizzlers. Why you ladies from the View? Why are you attacking that guy's wife and or him by proxy? And then what's in it for you? And sometimes people go, oh, these are paid stooges or something? And I go, are they paid stooges? Is it a sort of de facto thing where it's like, it's understood that if you start talking this way, you might have to take a leave of absence.
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It's that. Start saying nice, good things about the people that you're not allowed to say good things about, then you're in the same trouble that you were in when you did that text. I mean, the only reason you weren't in worse trouble is you'd probably already been canceled for some other thing prior. In other words, you had to make your own path. Oh, you were canceled, of course, for having conservative political.
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If I worked for espn, I would be thrown out of espn. I had built my own pirate ship, and I was just doing my own thing, and I was doing standup and writing books and stuff like that. And so I was aware that I was sort of cancel proof. Cause I was already sort of half canceled. It was sort of like. It was sort of like natural immunity. I'd already gotten the cancer virus and I'd built up the antibodies to it. So I didn't really care. You don't win any popularity contest when you do that. And there's a personal side of it that's not all money and professionals. Some of it is being shunned.
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Well, thank God you don't live in Laura. If you lived in la, then you're in big trouble.
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But I felt, I'll tell you this. When Tinhorn Flats, the burger joint in Burbank, was forcibly shut down and they moved them to outdoor dining. And then they canceled outdoor dining based on no proof or.
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And then they shot movies right next to it and allowed them to do it.
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And Tinhorn Flats defied the government. I went to my son's room that afternoon at 5 and I said, we're going to eat at Tinhorn Flats tonight. And it's not my neighborhood, but we're going down there. And I've never been there before, but I'm like, we are gonna stand up and go show our protest to this tyrannical government and their overreach. And you're coming with me. Me and I had a daughter, but I knew she wasn't. I wasn't gonna force her because I knew she wouldn't be down with what I was down with. But I felt that it was somewhat important to go on record as to being on this side of history about this. I knew how it was gonna work out. So I was happy with the side of history I was gonna be on. It was difficult at the time, but I don't know who said it was gonna be easy all the time. And also the weird thing is, is all these assholes that bought into it, all they do is idolize the comedians that were rebels, the good trouble guys, the civil rights guys, the guys who push back against the man were all the ones caving and getting in line.
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Shocking. It was shocking. I think I have a dear friend who called me one day and he said one of the most unusual aspects of the COVID drama was that if he would talk to somebody he's known for 20 years, he could absolutely not predict whether they were falling for it and participating or whether they were with us. And I had the experience somebody would call and say, hey, how are the numbers in Hawaii? What numbers? You know, the numbers of infections. What? I have somebody who's afraid to, you know, get out of their house. I mean. I mean, there are people who didn't leave their houses for years, as you may know.
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Yes.
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I mean, quite crazy. And thank God they had those cloth masks or who knows what would have happened to them. But my point is, it was very hard to predict. And then when you saw the. I mean, the rebels, like the musicians that, you know, opposed Joe Rogan and said, remove our music for a while, I loved it.
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Neil Young.
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Neil Young.
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That's so weird. Yeah. So counter.
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I agree. I agree.
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Neil Young. And folks of that generation and that ilk with all their protest songs are now falling into the arms of the CDC and the American. Sorry, the world Health. At who. And doing commercials. Doing commercials and stuff. All right, Gavin, let me plug the book before we set sail for news here, Gavin de Becker and Associates. By the way, that's the company. Instagram, gdb, a Protex, and Forbidden Facts is the name of the book. Cam, you got to come back. We got to do more. This flew by way too fast.
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Thank you very much.
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or visit us@O'ReillyAuto.com Adam that's O'ReillyAuto.com Adam. It's time to check Adam's voicemail.
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Baseman, this is Darren in South Florida. I'm about 10 minutes away from Mar a Lago. That was definitely a crow you were hearing in the background. They're everywhere down here now. They weren't 20 years ago, but they are now. As soon as I heard it, I knew it was a crow. I was waiting for you to comment on it. Anyways, get it on.
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You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.
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Well, it was a crow. When the sheriff was given the the presser, I don't think a crow's is around the water is the reason I didn't think about it. It was a clip from the guy got shot Mar a Lago, I think you said it was a crow, right?
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Yeah, I thought it was a crow, too. I was also just in.
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You were vindicated.
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I was just in Florida last week, end of last week. And lots of Corolla fans down there got recognized at the airport by a couple nice. I said to say hi, but also creepy crows were hanging out on the beach in Naples and were trying to eat my lunch.
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Oh, really?
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And I was like, no, no bueno. Not allowed.
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I'm from the Valley. And they're just littered with crows. The Valley. But then when I go to Malibu, I do not see crows anymore. But maybe seagulls fight with them or something.
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Maybe in Florida they're not real crows. They're spies.
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Mmm.
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You've heard about this bird conspiracy, right?
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I believe it all now. I got some liked tweets and the reason I liked them, I don't know why, I'm much more responsive to good criticism. And I did my Home Depot vlog. Me and Andrew just went across the street and went down to Home Depot and just walked through there. And I try to make them fun and informative. I try to explain people how stuff works and what they need and what they don't need. And I try to do some jokes along the way, but there were some very specific criticisms of it. One is first one is, hopefully they can help. A pedo.
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Isn't it pedo?
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A pedo.
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Isn't that weird that it's pedophile? But we say pedo.
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Well, English in England, they say pedo.
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Oh.
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And they say pedophile. So my thing is, like the Muslim
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pedophiles that Keir Starmer didn't do anything about.
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Yeah, kind of like them.
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Cool.
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Listen, you want to get judgmental against rape gangs, that's going to be on you. I'm not judging. But they call pedophiles pedophiles in England. Okay, but we call them pedophiles. So then if they're going to shorten pedophile, then it should be pedo. But if we shorten pedo, it should be pedo. We shouldn't shorten it.
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Consistency.
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Yes. Anyway, you gotta make this a little bigger. I can't read it from here. But anyway, I'm to help pedo retard like yourself. All right, so that's me going to Home Depot. Corolla's a fool.
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No, a tool.
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Oh, a tool. All right. Well, I like tools. You know, it's funny.
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They're like, thank you. Which one? They're very helpful.
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I'll tell you from here. The way they do that T, man, it is almost an F. Okay. Okay. Wow. This is the one I like the most. Wow. How exciting. We get to watch you go to the store. Amazing. Which I just hear in Bill Maher's voice. I just hear that. Bill Maher's voice. But also, I don't know, there's a lot. Here's. This is like, I wanted to yell this at Mike August when I was telling him to watch Marty Supreme. He goes, I don't watch a movie about ping pong. Okay. It's so easy just to go, oh, you go to the store, we watch you. Oh, great. You know what I mean? That every story is just about something. It's really. Is it funny?
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Yeah.
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Oh, I watched a Richard Pryor stand up special. He talks about his girlfriend. Oh, great. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, every thing is something.
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This sounds like my tween when she's being real sarcastic. How was your day at school? It's great.
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Indy 500. You got to go round in a circle in a car. So exciting. Anyway, this one says, jesus, shoot me now.
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Oh, my God.
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First off, I like to think of it as you know, 22 minutes of decent humor in this thing, as well as plenty of knowledge. Jesus, shoot me now. This is awful. This old house isn't worrying about the competition now.
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Amazing.
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I just like that people really take the time. They just take the time.
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I mean, Jeff, back in the archives for that one.
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Yes, reference.
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Yeah.
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Deep. Norm Abrams.
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Cut.
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Deep. Bob Vila. Cut. All right, what news do you have?
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Well, some people are rejoicing and some are really upset that the President has now said that the US Message in Iran is ahead of schedule and vows to easily prevail over the regime. Here's a real quick, quick clip of that.
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We also projected four weeks to terminate the military leadership. And as you know, that was done in about an hour.
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So we're ahead of schedule. By the way. You can pause it. My favorite part about all Middle Eastern leaders is before the invasion, that takes 15 minutes for them to completely destroy you. They always go, if you so much as set foot on our soil, you will feel the swift sword of Allah upon your neck. And then, like 10 minutes later, you're blown up.
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Like, three different levels of the regime, apparently, like, there are not enough guys to gather for a meeting, and then the ones that are left don't want to gather in person for obvious reasons.
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Ala's sword never finds its way to our neck is basically what I'm saying. But there's always the threat of all as sword. Look, I'm just sort of at the place where we're all just sort of in this giant sandbox. And if you're going to piss in it, then you're out of the sandbox. I can't. And all the diplomacy and all the arguing and all the machinations, and then 50 years goes by. I tell people this all the time. You want a fun little experiment? Little thought experiment? Saturday Night Live. 50 years old. 50 years. 51 years. I don't know, 75. 51 years. Go watch the first season of Saturday Night Live where Chevy Chase is working the news.
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Weekend update.
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Yes, watch it and tell me how fast. 50 years ago he goes, trouble in the Middle East. Yes, trouble in the Middle East. There's always trouble in the Middle east because Middle Eastern people live there and they cause trouble all the time. And the negotiation part is great. If they negotiated, but they don't believe in that. They believe that's weakness. So here's how they work. They work is if they could kill you, they would kill you immediately. So if we had the power.
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Non hijab wearing.
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Yes. If we had the Power to kill them, then certainly we would have killed them by now. But we're not animals, so we don't work that way. But they think that way. And they think basically every fight, every street fight I've ever gotten into, that I wanted to get into, which I have when I was younger. It was just something to do.
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Your prefrontal cortex wasn't fully formed.
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It wasn't.
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And calculated risk.
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I boxed, so I kind of knew how to do it. Here's how I could always guarantee I got in a fight. Guy goes, hey, man, I'm gonna kick your ass right now, you douchebag. And then I'd go, I don't want any trouble. You know, I can't. I don't want to get into a fight. You don't want trouble? You found trouble, douche. I don't want to. I don't want to fight. Oh, yeah? Well, we're gonna fight. That's all I tell him. And then I'd beat him up. But I realized that all I had to do. All you have to do is tell a bully you don't want trouble, and they fucking extra bully it up.
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Yep.
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And then you got trouble. Well.
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And that's what Iran is doing. And interestingly, the Saudis and the Qataris and people in Lebanon are like, hey, why are you bombing us? And are standing with the joint Israeli US operation, which has a really badass name, Operation Epic Fury. Yeah, like, who gets to name. I used to think I wanted to name nail polishes when I grew up. Now I think I want to name military operations.
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I'll tell you military operations. And funny cars from the 70s.
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Yes.
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The Chi Town Hustler, Shirley Cha Cha Mel Downey, Big Daddy, Don Garland. The Hawaiian.
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The Hawaiian.
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There was one called Billy. Who was the Hawaiian? Billy McEwen was the Hawaiian. There was a guy. There was a guy named Tommy Ivo who was a child star. So he was called TV Tommy Ivo.
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Oh, wow. All right. So military operations with that kind of name. So a lot of our Middle Eastern allies are like, yeah, we're okay with this joint U.S. israel operation. And meanwhile, the Brits and the French are like, please, leave us out of this. The UN is like, no, no, we condemn this. It's crazy. And of course, Iranians all over the country and the world were celebrating the death of the Ayatollah. But one reporter, I think, down in Texas, this was at this rally, and he was told, no, you shouldn't be talking about this. We can't be showing the positive aspects of this. Here we go.
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Cbs. Awesome, then. So. Meaning that mixed opinions across Austin about
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the joint attack between the United States and Israel against Iran that happened early this morning.
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Some people, like this group behind me,
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are thanking Trump and the United States government for following through with this attack against Iran, while other people across the city say there needs to be more peace in the Middle East. Strike is drawing a variety of.
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Yeah, what's that mean? Like, why wouldn't I talk about this? You're always live. Guys. This is the.
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Such a weird. Everything's a narrative, right? Everything's a narrative. Operation Overlord from D Day was a great name.
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Oh, yeah. I don't know. Epic Fury.
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Yeah, there was. I remember Scud missiles. I don't know why I like scud. Must have been an acronym. Yes. Here's the thing. I don't like the wars. I don't trust the wars per se. And I get. Everybody's a detractor for saying that. On the other hand, these are homicidal, genocidal pieces of shit, and they need to die. And unfortunately, it'd be nice for some diplomacy. It'd be nice if they would agree to take. They won't agree to anything. There is no diplomacy. It's part of their culture. So we have to kill you.
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Well, and we've tried diplomacy, and we've tried literally buying them off for as long as I've been alive.
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Yes.
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And it hasn't worked.
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Right. I'm kind of at the place with drug cartels and narco terrorists. Narco terrorists and Middle Eastern folks that fund all these terrorist groups. We just have to kill you where you're gonna have to die. And that's where we're at.
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All right, so peace in the Middle east and hooray for the women who get to not be forced to wear their hijabs in Iran. But Afghanistan, on the other hand, things ain't looking so good for my fellow females. The Taliban has announced that they will now allow men to beat their wives as long as they don't break bones or leave open wounds.
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No, I'm a. Wait a minute.
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It.
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I'm against that. But I'll tell you, they get a couple things right, the Taliban does. I think there's something in there about women in court only basically counting as half a witness that I kind of.
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Oh, Adam.
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Women lie so much that I think they should be downgraded to a half to a half percent.
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And, like, the. Heaven forbid they should go to school and learn how to read.
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I know a lot of chicks who read and you would not want their testimony in court. They got a completely different version of what the hell happened in life.
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Are you also against them, like, being able to vote and stuff or.
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I formally wasn't, but then I got stuck with Gavin Newsom, and I suspect that's mostly the ladies, so I'm starting to rethink that one.
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Yeah.
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I'm starting to wonder.
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I swear, the Taliban and the alt right, like, join on an issue. They're like, no women voting.
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What is. Chuck, you got the Quran on you? No, but not even the laminate. The Quran for dummies that I got you for Christmas.
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It got lost.
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I'm sorry. I got you the laminate one that people can use to figure out, like, on one side, it has tipping percentages.
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He definitely did it.
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On the other, hands of Quran on the other side.
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I know. And I kept it with me. And it just.
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Let's not live in the past, but what does it say about women not being listened to in court? I think that's, you know, I think that's one. That's about the only one I think I agree with.
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Yeah. That it's half of it. Or they have to have a male witness that speaks on their behalf.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think that.
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Which turns out when a man is beating you and then you accuse the man in court of beating you, and they're like, no, no, no. It only half of. Half of a right of a man.
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Right. But.
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All right, the punishment now in Afghanistan for animal abuse is more severe than that of beating your wife.
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Yeah. Listen, I'm not gonna defend every facet of Sharia law. That's not what I woke up this morning expecting to do. I like when people do that. What did you expect today? But remember Supreme Court nominee. What's his name? And they just brought woman after woman.
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Kavanaugh.
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Kavanaugh. And she's like, I think I may have been raped, but I can't remember, But I don't know what house I was at. And then every single fucking yenta went, we have to believe her. We need to all believe her. Maybe if we dialed their vote back a little bit in the court, we could get closer to the truth. That's all. Christine Blasi Ford.
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Yeah, I remember.
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Okay. Wouldn't you like her to have half a vote in court?
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No, I would like you. I would like human evidence.
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Well, the evidence was her memory of being sexually abused by a guy she hasn't met. We were going off of her memory, and then everyone in the view Was going off her memory. And then every female.
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What was the other chick? Who was it? Was it Rose McGowan? Like, who's the chick from Charmed that was always there, like looking behind.
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Rose had beefs with Weinstein, I think.
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Who was the chick that. Alyssa Milano, your favorite podcaster.
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But Rose McGowan is in this mix. It's that she wasn't in the Supreme Court. She was early money with wine stain.
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Right, Right.
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It's all the me too stuff. I just remember Alyssa Milano sitting there and every single time Justice Kavanaugh was speaking, she'd be like popping her head
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out in the aisle. So would you like her to have.
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No, because here's the thing.
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Two votes. So you want her to have 10 votes.
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I don't want anybody.
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Kavanaugh just gets thrown in a well.
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I don't want women to not be beaten by their wives and to have equal votes as men.
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That's all gonna have more Kavanaugh series. Gonna have more Alyssa Milanos out there with that kind of thinking.
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Related. It's not like there's zero dumb men out there at all.
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We tend not to exaggerate as much in the courtroom.
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Oh, my lord, have mercy. Have you been on a dating app recently? Do you know how many six foot tall men there are?
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Yes, I do. I know exactly the number.
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How many men with black cards?
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Half as many as women under 140 pounds.
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How many men who went to Turkey to get hair implants?
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They say they went to Turkey.
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No, they won't say they went to Turkey. It's obvious based on the photos that they would totally went to Turkey.
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All right, well, let's just agree to disagree and that I'm right.
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Okay.
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All right, go ahead. What's next?
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Up next we have Scott pike, who is a whistleblower from the. An LAFD veteran who has been talking about. About the fire, the Lachman fire specifically, still smoldering. And how he tried to get firefighters to do more to mop it up and was completely blown off. It's pretty long, but like, get down
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to the first 30 seconds. Yeah. I also like that they interviewed him in front of that screed that you took your junior high class picture with at the mall.
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50 pennies.
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We had one background for 71 years in this country. It was a weird patchy blue gray thing that everyone's junior high picture, everyone's ID school ID was one and then it completely went away. But now it's back. All right.
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And our orders were that we were going to have what we call like a hose pickup party, or we were going to be tasked with going to pick up hose at the fire that occurred the night before. I didn't even know is named Lachman Fire at that point. I'm putting two and two together now, but that's what it was. But at the time was, it was just like, hey, the fellas had a. Had a brush fire last night.
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We're going to.
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To pick up hose. It was near the end of the line, and we were down in the burn. And it was about that time I was just looking around and I saw light smoke on the ground. I saw branches that were smoking still, and I could smell smoke. And there were, I would say several. Several smokers in that immediate area. I'd say there was like a handful, like five, but that's a lot. To me, it's just an indicator that stuff's still hot.
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So was there a containment line near where you first saw these smokers?
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Nothing obvious to me. It didn't look like there was a very good handline cut.
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Not.
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Not a clean differentiation between burn and green. And there was a lot of unburnt fuel in the burn.
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All right, so we screwed the pooch as usual. And then everyone gets angry. The side that formerly loved whistleblowers when they were working for defense contractors, now all of a sudden hate whistleblowers when Karen Bass may be in trouble.
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Whistleblower is bad when they have to do with getting Democrats or teachers unions in trouble.
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Right.
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Whistleblower is good if it goes after anybody else.
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Yes.
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Car companies.
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Yes.
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Gun companies, tobacco companies.
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There's obvious incompetence. The reason. Well, first things first. The reason, you know, there's incompetence is because so much burned. Like, it's a weird thing to have such a horrific result and then argue you're competent and you did nothing wrong. Because if that's true, then that's my answer when people go, I did the best I could. Well, if you did the best you could and it was a shit show, then what do we need you for? You know what I mean? It's always crazy when Newsom is always highlighting how great a job he's doing with the homeless situation or the fires or fireplaces. It's like everything's burned to the ground, and the only thing that didn't burn is the homeless because they were on the street and they don't own structures, and even some of their plywood structures burn. So you're doing a horrible job, because I am looking around and seeing what, what the outcome of your supervision is. Let's see. Karen Bass, 46% for a second term. So says the poly market, the betting market.
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Oh, interesting. But do we have any like LA Times data or California Post, like new polling for the mayoral race yet?
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I don't know. It's her. Nithya Rahman is a close second.
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For those that don't remember who that is, that's like the Mamdani, like CH chick that's running out here.
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Yes. She angry at Toyota.
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You know what I think is total BS here in the state is how you have to get enough signatures to run for office. It just seems very antithetical to the Constitution to me. I know Spencer Pratt was over in Studio City the other day trying to gather signatures and typically it ends up when you leave Ralph's and people are like, will you sign this thing?
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Yes.
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They're paid to do that. So it's like pay for play. Which seems. Seems bogus to me.
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Everything is bogus. The idea that you would take money from the teachers unions and then do the bidding of the teachers unions seems very syndicate crime, like mafiosa crap. All right, we'll give you more on this as the week wears on. But the fire started a week earlier, smoldered for a long time. Winds kicked up, could have been contained with zero structural damage right there. The heads dropped the ball and then most importantly, they went after the whistleblower. All right, Gavin de Becker. Got that book Forbidden Facts. I would recommend it highly. Me going to beat the Jordan family classic cars with all the Newman cars out there. Do a live pod out there. You can go to. That'll be March 22nd. Go to amcroll.com live shows everywhere. Nebraska. Look out. Let's go to amcroll.com for all that. And check out Alicia Krause because she does her op ed for the Washington Examiner. Till next time, Adam Kroll for Alicia Krause and Gavin de Beck are saying mahalo.
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Episode Title: Why the Government Lied about COVID (w/ Gavin de Becker)
Date: March 3, 2026
Guests: Gavin de Becker (security expert, author), with news by Alicia Krause
Main Theme:
A candid discussion about government narratives, personal trauma, the psychology of fear, societal response to COVID, and the mechanisms of mass deception, with insights from renowned security expert Gavin de Becker.
Adam Carolla sits down with security specialist and author Gavin de Becker for a deep-dive into the intersection of personal trauma, public safety, government manipulation, and the COVID-19 crisis. De Becker, known for anti-assassination work, shares his personal story and professional experiences to shed light on why the public—and even many leaders—fell so fully for official COVID narratives. The conversation also touches on compliance, skepticism, and the consequences of challenging consensus.
[03:00–15:00]
“I saw my mother shoot my stepfather when I was about 10. She committed suicide when I was 16… I went to the University of Adversity.” —Gavin de Becker [04:40]
“It’s very rare that you run into somebody who had just the greatest and easiest childhood. And they’re very funny.” —Gavin [05:55]
[09:00–17:00]
“There’s a I don’t want to deal with it mode, which just means other people in the canoe have to row a little extra.” —Adam [11:28]
[13:00–17:56]
[21:45–26:47]
“For a successful assassination, hundreds of things have to fall into place for it to work. The odds are far more in favor of the target than the assassin—if there’s real protection.” —Gavin [23:04]
[28:56–34:36]
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” —William Casey (quoted by Gavin) [30:35]
[34:36–45:15]
“There’s been an effort throughout history for a few people to dominate and control… Lockdowns—no army could have mounted a campaign to get everyone on the planet to go into house arrest. It’s an extraordinary accomplishment—and one of the darkest.” —Gavin [39:01]
[41:22–48:24]
“In Canada, 70% of all deaths attributed to COVID were residents of nursing homes. Now, what do you do in a nursing home? You die.” —Gavin [42:55]
[48:28–51:41]
“People in Africa did vastly better… African countries didn’t buy into it in the same way.” —Gavin [50:04]
[55:30–59:18]
“We’re social animals and we follow information. Nobody wants to be the one who…” —Gavin [57:48]
[58:48–64:08]
“The last director of administrative FDA is now on the Pfizer board… all fall up.” —Adam [64:02]
[65:04–66:34]
[66:34–75:37]
“Start breaking patterns—I don’t believe it.” —Adam [67:06]
[71:17–73:11]
[73:11–78:15]
“All they do is idolize the comedians that were rebels… pushing back against the man were all the ones caving and getting in line.” —Adam [77:01]
On the effect of lockdowns:
“No army in the world could have gotten everyone on the planet to go into house arrest. This lockdown thing… is one of the darkest possible things we could ever have experienced.” —Gavin de Becker [39:21]
On skepticism and authority:
“I recommend to people that the first question you ask when the government wants you to hear something is: Why do they want you to hear it?” —Gavin [67:36]
On media manipulation:
“They stopped reporting age… that’s not gonna make us worry. What makes us worry is the kids. When the kids are vulnerable, they do it with the kids on everything. What about the children?” —Adam [44:54]
On the Institute of Medicine:
“Most people don’t know that the Institute of Medicine is a private organization… paid by pharma. The government uses them to say, ‘No problem!’” —Gavin [65:11]
On personal integrity:
“I was happy with the side of history I was gonna be on. It was difficult at the time, but I don’t know who said it was gonna be easy all the time.” —Adam [76:01]
On admissions of error:
“How many people have come back to you now and said, ‘hey, Adam, you were right?’” —Gavin
“Zero.” —Adam [70:06]
This episode presents a sustained critique of government messaging and public compliance during COVID, anchored in both personal narrative and hard-won professional insight. Gavin de Becker calls for deeper skepticism, careful pattern recognition, and the courage to resist collective pressures—while Adam Carolla underscores how tragically rare open-mindedness and admissions of error are. The conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in the psychology of mass compliance, the infrastructure of public narratives, and the consequences for individual liberty—delivered with the Carolla show’s trademark blend of candor and wit.