Transcript
A (0:00)
To answer the question, why do you need a label? Because there is comfort in knowing you're a normal zebra and not a strange horse. Because you can't find community with other zebras if you don't know that you belong. And because it is impossible for a zebra to be happy or healthy, spending its life feeling like a failed horse.
B (0:17)
ADHD rewired episode number 562. This is the show for adults with ADHD or ADHD. Very good intentions, but it's slightly wandering attention. My name is Eric Kivers. I'm a licensed clinical social worker and an ADHD clinical services provider. And I have ADHD and autism. I'm joined today with Brian Antler. He's one of our ADHD rewired coaches. And we're doing our live Q and A today. We're doing this as a live read, even this intro here because I want to get you an episode out. So hopefully you are hearing this shortly after we recorded this. You can learn more about everything we do at our website@adhd rewired.com all right, Mr. Brian Antler, how's it going?
A (1:08)
It's going very well. How about you? I am busy. Busy, but good, good.
B (1:14)
It's. It has been a minute especially. We were supposed to do this last month, but then I realized I had like the wrong link or something. So, like, nobody had a way to even get into it. So I just decided, head, let's just push it a month. And here we are.
A (1:28)
All right. Adapting, Pivoting.
B (1:30)
Yes. And you are in the final week of your coaching of the coaching season right now. And how. How has it been going?
A (1:37)
Yeah, arc season 43. 43 seasons. It's been going. It's been going really well. I have a really great group. I mean, they're all great groups. They all have their own special characteristics. But it's been a really great journey over the last seven and a half weeks.
B (1:53)
Awesome. Awesome. All right, so let's go ahead and dive into some questions again. If you are just joining us, you can put your questions in the Q and A button. And if you've recently updated your zoom client, it'll click on the more button. It'll. You'll see a little button that says Q and A. Put it there. And then also go live if you are open and willing to have a to dialogue with us so we can get your audio here. All right, so let's start with Arkin's question. And yes, if you are in coaching and therapy, how would you use both spaces for the same Problem. Can you talk through an example like job hunting or whatever, and how you would best utilize the two spaces? So that's an interesting question. You know, I think primarily, you know, I think because I have a number of clients that I, that I work with one on one, who, you know, whether they see me as a coach or as a therapist, then have a, either coach or therapist outside, you know, with. As a coach, we are looking at execution and implementation like that's our biggest sort of thing. Right? Whereas a therapist, we're doing a lot more of the, the emotional processing right now. You know, a lot of people say, like, there's this line between therapy and coaching. And I'm going to tell you and make the actual matter of it, it's a murky, big gray area. Right? But I think when we get into sort of processing stuff in childhood, that's like clearly therapy territory. But it's really about how do we do the thing that we are intending on doing. So even if that's like, let's say your, your therapist gives you therapy homework. Okay. I mean, that's the whole reason I started the coaching groups, because I was given therapy homework as a client and I wasn't doing it. And if I did do it, it was in the parking lot 20 minutes before my next therapy session. Right. And so what would have been great at that time if I could have had a coach that I could check in with and be like, all right, so how's that therapy homework going? All right, so that's really. That it's, you know, coaching so much is about action orientation. I think where there's some more of the gray area when you're dealing with values, when you're dealing with stuff around maybe burnout some stuff, or even around the actions, around emotional self regulation on how to sort of manage some of those things. Brian, what's, what's your thought? Because I think you've been, if I recall, you've been in both.
