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After Party with Emily Jashinsky
“Happy Hour”: Crockett's Weakness, Mamdani Lessons, Marco in Munich, and Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance: Emily Answers YOUR Questions
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On this week’s edition of “Happy Hour,” Emily Jashinsky answers a number of questions about politics, news, and faith. She opens with a listener email about the media obsession over Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance. Then she dives into the Munich Security conference and discusses Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s performances. She also talks immigration, crimes committed by non-citizens, and how the Biden administration created this current disaster. Emily addresses lessons from Zohran Mamdani’s administration, why she believes Rep Jasmine Crockett is a weak candidate, the Gen Z template for running for office, and if she would ever personally enter politics. Emily then talks about the discourse over Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl show, discussions of faith with her “Breaking Points” co-hosts, what it means to be a moral journalist, and she offers advice for writing, recommendations for news podcasts, and more…
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per month when network is busy see Terms. Hello everyone. We are back with another edition of Happy Hour, which is of course a special edition of Afterparty that airs every Friday around 5pm it's where I get to answer all of that you send in to emilyevilmaycare media.com or our Instagram at Afterparty. Emily now, as a reminder, I do it live, as the saying goes, because I think that's much more entertaining and then typically I get to answer everybody's questions around Thursday or Friday responding to the emails. So just a reminder, of course, this is, this is live. I think that's the only way to make it entertaining. And that way, you know, I'm not, you know, doing anything goofy censoring things ahead of time. Again, I just don't think that's fun. As you all know, I'm a big fan of reality television, so if you haven't subscribed, please do subscribe. It's where if you haven't subscribed on YouTube, that's one of the best ways to help the show out. And if you haven't subscribed to the podcast edition, that's where we drop of course, Happy Hour every week it's just audio, so appreciate everyone keeping us on their podcast feeds. Love that. All right, first question, let's dive right in because I every week gets more emails in the inbox, so I'm gonna have to keep myself disciplined on this. Pierre says hi Emily, do you have any insight into MK's obsession with Nancy Guthrie? While it's a terrible situation, the wall to wall coverage and obsession over the tiniest detail made the show unlistenable. Last show I Listened to. I want to stab a pen into my ears. Pierre. I think the whole country has an obsession with Nancy Guthrie. To be honest, it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea. There's some people who are not particularly interested in TR crime, but I think actually most of Megan's listeners love and appreciate how good she is. She thrives on these true crime cases. So I think, you know, it's everyone's obsession with Nancy Guthrie. And I for one, have really appreciated just even the granular detail that they're getting into because you never know with these cases. I mean, this is a. Nancy, I'm sorry, Savannah Guthrie is a political actor. She's one of the most prominent people in media and in political media. I mean, she does high profile interviews. So there's some importance to the story. And like the rest of the country, I know I'm eager to get to the bottom of it because right now the big question mark hovering over what happened is, man, it's to have no leads. Seemingly after all of this time in one of the most high profile cases I can remember. Wild. All right, Hank sends in. I'm sure I don't have to tell you this, but Secretary Rubio speech of the Munich Security Conference is something I hope you talk about Monday. For what it's worth, I thought it was pitch perfect and hopefully smooth some of the ruffled feathers resulting from Trump's more ill considered remarks at the World Economic Forum. Yes, we did talk about that on Monday. Talked about it on Wednesday as well. I am largely in agreement. And anytime a Trump administration official, let alone Marco Rubio, somebody who's been the face of his foreign policy, can get a standing ovation at the Munich Security Conference. That's an accomplishment that speaks to just the speech being well crafted, period. All right, Katie says to me, you say that 56,000 people is a lot of people. You don't seem to understand. I guess let me just say I'm going to pause. I think this is in reference to the conversation about violent crimes committed by people in the country, non citizens in the United States. So Katie says, you say that 56,000 people is a lot of people. You don't seem to understand that 344,000 people are a lot of people. If only 14% are violent criminals, how do we know how many are criminals of any sort? Are you willing to spend a week in detention in order to catch them? How many innocent people should be held in detention camps? Will they go after a minority of violent criminals? Why do they need to collect the other 86% at all. You might as well argue that we arrest the entire American population because we can get a whole lot of violent criminals at the same time. A. I think this is in response to a CBS report that we talked about referring to the 14% of noncitizens having violent criminal backgrounds. Now, of course, violent crime and civil immigration infractions are different, but you have still committed a crime by coming into the country illegally or overstaying a visa and the like. That is illegal. You are out of compliance with the law. It is not the same thing as a violent crime. Of course, it's not the same thing as a felony. But to the point of how many innocent people should be held in detention camps? Well, they're mostly not innocent. Now, there are a whole lot of people who actually are here with quote, unquote documents because the Biden administration put them in that position. But some of these sob stories are people who have not shown up at their hearings. Some of them are people who are literally showing up at their hearings and getting arrested. But the country that you have entered into and claimed asylum has a right. You have due process rights, yes, as a non citizen, but you are in the country as a non citizen. And that country has a right to enforce its immigration laws. And the people who were duly elected by American voters have a right to enforce the immigration laws. So I think Katie's responding to the fact that I was Talking about how 14% is actually a lot of violent criminals who are coming into the country. And I think that's absolutely true. That is a lot of people who are coming into the country because 100% of crime committed by non citizens is preventable. It is preventable. But there are also a lot of people that are not, quote, unquote, innocent and are detained. So let's just again take this line. How many innocent people should be held in detention camps? The law that Joe Biden actually changed says, or he ignored says that you have to be detained while your asylum case is pending. That is a common sense law for any other country. Now, the United States is different because we have a whole lot of people who want to come to this country. We have the concept of the American dream. We have a history of immigration. So we just have more and more people who are trying to get into this country. We have an amazing country. And when that became so many people, Joe Biden, all right, he says, no, you don't have to wait in detention because I don't want to look like the bad guy. Who is detaining families and children while their asylum claims are being processed. Well, that became a pull factor because people knew that they could just get asylum hearings and not show up for them, live in sanctuary cities, go about their lives and stay in the United States basically as long as they could keep sending those remittances, remittances back home, build up more and more resources. And if you have to go back home someday, you'll be doing it with more resources and you will have had the opportunity at least to try and stay in the United States. So the detention camps and innocent people, that's actually how the law has always been. While you are an innocent asylum seeker and your case is being processed are a lot of bad asylum claims. When I was down at the border, talked to vast majority of people who had economic migration reasons, motivations. They were not legitimate asylum seekers, but they were claiming asylum because the Biden administration was letting you out of detention. So that is just a fundamental misunderstanding, respectfully Katie, of how this process has worked over the last however many years. If you let people in another country claim asylum and they're quote, unquote innocent, then you create a flood that empowers cartels, puts people in danger as they cross the Darien Gap and go through these treacherous paths up to the border, then stay on the border until they can get across, then come across. That is creating a horrific, unorderly situation that is a humanitarian crisis. It's not bad for migrants, it's not good for migrants, it's not good for the American people. So I would just say to that it's misunderstand the entire situation now as to the question of should the Trump administration round up all the asylum seekers who are here right now, arrest them, take them away from their, their kids and the like. Obviously you, this is, this administration was not just elected to deport violent criminals. It said it was going to start with the violent criminals. And that's what Tom Homan seems to be prioritizing now. But we have literally millions of people who came in a short period of time. Millions of people. The New York Times estimate is about 8 million. I think another conservative estimate is around 10 million that came in roughly a three year period during the Biden administration. That is not orderly, that is not a just system for American citizens. And yes, you will have to either entice people to do the self deportation process, which this administration is looking like what north of 2 million people have, have done that and with very generous opportunities from the United States. And if people don't take those self deportation offers, then yes, there will be arrests. I think it should be absolutely humane. I don't agree with some of what I've seen and I'm open to that. But to act as though people have the moral high ground for saying, you know, this hard process, nobody likes to see it happen, but nobody liked to see what happened during the Biden administration happen either. For the most part, average Americans don't like that either. So to say that the moral high ground is with the side that wants to put American citizens second and entice more and more people with these pull factors that are so generous, more generous than just about any other country in the world, is with migration, so much so that people come from around the world just to get a chance to, to cross the bor. That is not a side that has the moral high ground either because that hurts lots of people in the process. It is not orderly, it is not just. And obviously something needs to be done about it. And I don't think the Trump administration should be needlessly cruel at all. I don't like seeing that. Most people don't like seeing that. But there will be difficult decisions. This will be a difficult process and the Biden administration put us in this situation in the first place. So, Katie, that's, that's what I would say to that. I appreciate the tough questions and I hope people keep sending them them in. Of course. Jesse says. I've been meaning to thank you for destroying Elise Stefanik. I live in her former congressional district and cannot deal with another awful Zoran Jist meme in my DMs. I find stuff like the fawning New York Times write up about the mayor's custom embroidered Carhartt jacket way more interesting. I'm a Carhartt loyalist, but I also live in a cabin on a frozen Adirondack lake. Oh, that sounds nice. Jesse, how do you feel the conservative movement has done it? Leveling reality based criticism at Zuron following your Oval Office question to the president. Yes, so I did ask the president. I actually wasn't even thinking about the Stefanic campaign when I, I brought up this question. Like what it would do to them or what it wouldn't do to them. I was thinking basically about the morality of calling. The morality and the practical consequences of calling someone a jihadist who is very clearly not a jihadist. You may think that he is sympath sympathetic to people who are jihadists. Maybe that's what you think. But when Elisa Phonic was out there calling Zoran Mamdani, a literal jihadist. I asked Donald Trump that. He said no. I said, do you think you're standing next to a jihadist? Although Jelani had been Galani of whatever we want to call him, he goes by many names. The new leader of Syria had been in the Oval Office like the week before. So kind of funny. But anyway, yeah, I mean, I wasn't even thinking about how that would affect the campaign. I was just in my mind, you know, I always go into those situations. I think my job is as someone who's outside of the quote, unquote, mainstream media, the legacy press, to ask questions from a conservative perspective that other people in the media wouldn't ask. You know, that's why I'm there is to kind of represent people who are underrepresented. So on that note, that's what I was thinking about. And, you know, it's. It seems insane to me for conservatives after the last decade of cancel culture to be expanding definitions in ways that are not literally true. I mean, this is what I spent the last decade arguing against. If someone, you. If you don't believe someone literally thinks one race is inferior to another or said something that implies one race is inferior to another, like inherently inferior to another, then do not call them racist. If you think they're talking about racist outcomes, racist consequences, say that. Do not call them a racist. This is what the left does. They expand these definitions. So that's just sort of a short summary of what I was doing with answering that question. Again, I have no, like, honestly wasn't following the New York gubernatorial race super closely. Just I was getting press releases and seeing Elise Stefanik use that language. And I thought that was really wrong and wanted to ask about it. So then I think Jesse's responding to. I posted a tweet about a New York Times article. Let me just pull it up because it says something so funny. I got a couple of responses to this, just as some background. Carhartt is a personal. I don't think my mom listens to these, so I can say it's a personal sore spot in our family because when I was growing up, my dad had this absolutely beat up Carhartt jacket that he would try to wear to church sometimes. Be like a tense conversation before church over whether my dad should be wearing his Carhartt jacket that was absolutely like literally torn to church. But the New York Times here, I found it wrote in a sort of feature piece last week. Quote, as. As married men dressing for important occasions often do, Mr. Mamdani sought the help of his wife and of her staff, chose the coat, a jet B black quilted full swing Caldwell jacket from the American workwear brand Carhartt, and tapped a local embroiderer to personalized it with a throwback city logo, said Noah Neri. As senior adviser to the first lady Rama Duaji, quote, the mayor is hoping to chart a new course, Mr. Neri, 36, said in an interview. I think he felt that it also made sense to speak a visual language that felt slightly new. So I'm sorry, but the entire concept of using a Carhartt jacket to, quote, speak a visual language that felt slightly new in 2026 is sending me through the roof. I can't help but be annoyed by that. And I guess I also have to be amused by my own annoyment. But that is just a ridiculous thing to say. It is ridiculous for this rich kid, Zora Mamdani, Democratic Socialist, to be in working class drag. We see it all the time. It doesn't particularly bother me. But on the campaign TR so Mamdani was always in suits. He wasn't wearing blue collar drag, he was always in suits. And I think that was actually just an honest representation of Zoran Mamdani. He's a kid who grew up wealthy and privileged and thought he was using it to help the city in a very professional, organized, orderly way. So far he actually has done that from his perspective at least. Right. Like, I'm not a Dem socialist. I don't agree with a lot of it. But he's like the controversies have mostly been criticisms from conservatives. Now granted, he flip flopped and I think Anna Kasparian was right to say on Wednesday's afterparty in a mature way on homeless encampment sweeps when the temperature dropped below a certain level. But that caught my attention because there was also a Washington Free Beacon report speaking of criticisms from the right that I'm sorry, it was in the New York Post, but a lot of this was found by John Levine over at the Washington Free Beacon that Mamdani has an aide who had been posting hilarious tweets over the last like five plus years about like his complaints over Swiss airlines beverage service, his multiple foreign bank accounts, the Delta lounges. It was just so funny. And I posted in response to that something like it's easy to see how fragile this experiment is in New York City because when you're so focused on the aesthetic or when you are focused on the aesthetic, and I think this is a substantive criticism and you don't actually have a lot of experience. You know, you're sort of external to the, quote, working class, to the blue collar population, to working people, as the left likes to say, and something goes wrong and people start feeling like you're not actually upsetting the apple. Apple cart, overturning the apple cart. You're not actually dismantling the system or if there's a serious. What if there's an economic crash? What if there is a major black swan event in New York City? Whatever it is. Sorry, I just dropped my phone. I feel like I do that on every episode now. But whatever it is, you can see how when you have the rich kids embroidering their Carhartt jackets and getting that written up in the New York Times, cooperating with the New York Times around that, I mean, I think the right political move would have been to tell them to pound sand. But Zerhan's polling pretty well right now, so they probably didn't have too many worries about that. Either way, you can lose the trust of the public really quickly because then they feel like you're disingenuous. Then they feel like there was a dishonesty, that the trust was broken. Broken in an almost more profound way than an Andrew Cuomo who, you know, nobody really bought that Andrew Cuomo was some type of like blue collar whisperer. So anyway, that's. I don't think it really matters too much how the conservative movement levels, quote, reality based criticism, to borrow your phrase, Jesse, at Zoran Mamdani. I don't expect people to level reality based criticism at Zoram Hamdani. I think it matters how the Republican Party in New York and New York City handles that. The national conservative movement is going to use him like they use Nancy Pelosi, the sort of San Francisco elite who wants to, you know, turn America into Europe. That's how he'll be used politically. That's probably smart. I don't know if it's helpful to the country, but that's probably the, the smart thing to do. So I just don't have any expectations that there will be reality based criticism leveled at a Democratic socialist mayor of New York City. What they should be doing is taking reality based lessons though, from all of the low hanging fruit that he's picked. Deep cleaning the subway right away, like changing course on homeless encampments and doing it just in this kind of honest way that says, hey, we're gonna do it. We're practical, people have died and we're gonna take care of it. There are a lot of political lessons to take from Mamdani. So that's how I would think about that. Here's a message from Howard, who says, oh, this was about a question I answered. Oh, this is about actually. Okay, nevermind. So Howard asks, have you ever considered getting into politics yourself? You certainly have all the skills and abilities it would take to be a success. There was one thing that would maybe be a problem. You seem like a really nice and decent person. That could be a real impediment for a politician. No, no, no, no, no, no. Thank you, Howard, for the kind words, but no, no, that's my nightmare scenario. I think it's very difficult for anybody to inject themselves into a broken system and not be broken themselves. I know maybe even less than a handful of people who I think have done that. To be in a broken system, you have to make too many compromises. And plus, I also just, you know, I love writing and, you know, I'm very comfortable focused on truth. I'm not attracted to anyone's jersey red team or blue team's jersey. I'm as distrustful of Republicans as I am of Democrats. Do I think the Republican party is the better vehicle for conservative priorities? Most of the time. Maybe not all of the time, but most of the time. And I just can't imagine attaching myself to a machine or even running like, as an independent. Again, you just have to inject yourself into a broken system that demands necessarily so many compromises. So I, again, yeah, I can name, like, honestly, maybe one or two people I feel like, who have handled it in a way that they're still decent human beings and trustworthy others. You know, I have friends who find themselves in, you know, influential positions in politics, and I have to be skeptical of them. And that's a tough thing about living to work in Washington, D.C. as a. As a journalist, or at least as a someone who's trying to be a moral journalist. But you just. Power does odd things to people. And, you know, you can be the most moral person ever and find yourself in politics and be, you know, where the power is so tangible, it's so immediate. It's in front of you every single day. And these are decisions, you know, I might talk and say something that indirectly affects something, but as a politician, you are having direct, like, your actions have direct consequences for the people that you represent. And that system just puts really unfortunate pressures and demands, certain compromises. And, you know, there's a way to line up those compromises in a way that keeps you sane and moral. But I've seen very few people do it successfully. Also, I just am so introverted, it would suck the life force out of me. There's nothing attractive to me about having to run a campaign or a big office. Thanks for the question, though, Howard, and thanks for the nice words. Here's something from Doodlebug, who sends an image from the official DHS Twitter account. This has kind of now become a famous image. It's a picture of what looks like a Hawaiian beach with an old car. DHS posted and said, America after 100 million deportations. And Doodlebug writes, this would mean deporting a third of the country and would need to include US Citizens like you. If this was an innocent math error, they've had plenty of time to delete it. It might explain why DHS is targeting lines of parents picking up kids from school and ending up with only 14% of arrests. People who have committed violent crimes. It might also explain why they keep getting caught in blatant lies to the American people whenever video emerges. The US Chicago citizen in Chicago lived and was able to petition for video to be released the next time two Americans were killed. Oh, this is from Katie. Okay, so, Katie, I'm not going to defend the DHS Twitter account. You will not find me doing that. Never have. Don't think I ever will. I think they've. I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes with the DHS Twitter account. I think it's been flirting with some. Some real silly stuff, and maybe this is a meme joke, like the 100 million deportations. I have no idea. But even if it is a joke, I don't think it's appropriate thing to post. Same thing with Randy. Fine. Even if you're joking about Muslims and dogs, I don't think it's an appropriate thing for a congressman to post. I get that we're in post Trump politics, but you're never gonna have me defending that. There's no reason to. You know, I. There are probably some people on the right who say it's not worth talking about. It's a minor issue. There's no need to, like, punch right on that. If you ask me about it, though, like Katie just did, I'm gonna tell you, I think that's dumb. So, yeah, don't think it's helpful. I think it's dumb. I don't think that the Trump administration wants to deport 100 million people. And that's part of the reason why I think it's dumb. Like, not even accurately representing what they want to do, but dumb nonetheless. What are they, like 300 million people in this country and even like it's just silly all around. So if Katie will go on here, to Katie's point, it might explain why DHS is targeting lines of parents picking up kids from school and ending up with only 14% of arrests of people who have committed violent crimes. I don't know if this is the same Katie who voted, who wrote in the other question about the 14 number. Interesting. But it's a different email address, I think. So either way, it's right. It's, it's, it's true. The US Citizen in Chicago as Katie is talking about was lived and was able to get video released, was able to make that argument in a way that Preddy and Renee Good haven't bring that perspective of the person who was targeted to the forefront. So yeah, there's, you know, serious conversation that we've been having constantly on this show about the morality of some of those ICE conflicts. And I'm more than happy to talk about it. I think there were clearly mistakes made in both of those cases, unfortunately, doesn't mean that it's been totally responsible performance by Democrats and the left who I think in some cases have encouraged very unsafe situations and very unjust situations. But yeah, I don't think I'm the right person to maybe try to hold the DHS meme about 100 million deportations or say has excused some of what's going on from ice. To be honest, we've had pretty honest conversations about it here on this program and we always are happy to. But again, thanks for the, I appreciate tough questions. So thanks for sending them in. Katie. Let's see here. This is from Mary, who says I'm a conservative and will stop short of calling myself maga goes on. I have two questions I would like to delve into. One of these is about Trump and his recent remarks about closing the bridge between Canada and Detroit. Interesting talking about the bridge and says so what does that got to do with the ice hockey and China doing away with the ice hockey just because they weren't aren't working on a deal with Canada? I think it's a back off deal and stop wasting political capital there. You know, Mary, I haven't followed that one super closely, to be perfectly honest. I did see that, he saw that. But I'm not, I can't go fully into that because I haven't, I haven't followed it closely. But there are, I mean, in principle I think that's a great point. There are sometimes battles that get picked that it's with Trump. He's the, he's constantly the double edged sword for Republicans. You don't get the good of Trump, Trump for Republicans without the bad and the good being all of these working class voters who turned out for Donald Trump, switched, didn't vote for Democrats or didn't stay home and came out and voted for Republicans. But to have that side of Trump, you also have the side of Trump where he's sometimes picking battles that are not helpful. So I don't know if this is one of them, but I think that's a fair point. Mary says Trump needs to stop trying to name everything after him. I acknowledge smart man. I agree with his policies, but his ego is getting in the way of smart government and actually calculative strategy to get things done in Congress. Save something for posterity that down the road he can be recognized for such a successful presidency. I think that is a great point, Mary. I think the. But again, I think it also goes to this double edged sword with Trump. You don't get this without some of the stuff that's helpful for Republicans and that's frankly helpful for politics, like forcing elites to listen to people who don't always get a lot of attention. But when I saw the wall, the White House of the presidents with the auto pen for Joe Biden, I was genuinely embarrassed for the United States of America and the gold Oval Office lettering that's now outside of it. Now I will say I think the legacy media has spent way too much time crying about the ballroom and Trump naming things after himself, the Gulf of America, blah, blah, blah. Like the Associated Press picking that fight and then complaining about it. There's like a sign if you go back, this is a little inside baseball. If you're in the press briefing room and you walk back towards where some people have their offices, there's a sign that says like we stand with the Associated Press. Oh my gosh. I think the, the press spends way more time talking about that stuff and acts like it's a much bigger deal than it is the average American because the press is here in washing and is obsessed with style and respectability, politics. But I actually don't like it either and I think it's somewhat uncouth and you know, the White House is, is beautiful. I think it's a global symbol and it's so tacky. The naming stuff. Yeah, it's, it's tacky. I don't disagree with that, Mary. Some, some reasonable Points Marianne says. Hey Emily, for those of us who listen to the podcast, could you please slow down when reading the emails please? I realize you were display email on your show, but for those of us who cannot see it, your delivery is really beyond decipherable sometimes and we would really like to understand the question you are answering. Thanks and keep up your amazing work. Thank you Marianne. So yes, sometimes you can't see them because again, this is audio only. But some of your great emails are like 500 words long. And so I'm sort of as we do these, these happy hour episodes, I'm sort of reading through them and when I'm reading quickly it's, it's mentally what's going on in my own head, like I'm skimming it to get to the, get to the question. Try to understand where the person is coming from. And sometimes I'm reading emails that should be private. So that's another thing. I'm making sure as I read your emails that I'm not doxing anyone or anything like that. So that's sort of where the quick speech is probably coming in. I will absolutely keep that in mind. Thank you Marian for the note. Here's another ICE related email from I think it's Katie. I think it's the same Katie. The woman Alex Preddy killed. This is an Intercept headline. Was the woman Alex Preddy was killed trying to defend as an EMT Federal agent stopped her from giving first aid. Katie says more lies from CBP to American taxpayers. Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino claimed in a statement that officers arrived on the scene in pursuit of a quote, unquote viral violent criminal, illegal alien. A subsequent review by Minnesota officials found that the man Border Patrol agents claimed to be pursuing had no violent criminal record in the state. I did actually already read that article, Katie. I read almost everything Intercept publishes, even when I don't agree with it. That email was, or maybe this is in that article. But that article was, to my recollection about the CBP guys there not letting that woman do first aid on Preddy. And and I thought the article really missed a giant point. And if I'm remembering correctly, this was salient in the Renee Good case as well. And in the Ramos, the Liam Ramos case. Yeah, there may be really well intentioned people who are trained and prepared to do first aid in emergency situations or there may be someone who can take Liam with them. But you actually can't just in the Liam case, immediately hand a little kid over to a stranger even if the stranger says they work at the school and they have his best interests at heart. They know the family, et cetera. You can't actually just do that at the same time. These guys don't know that she's trained. And so the protocol, I think the intercept piece got into it a little bit, but they have no idea who this person is. What if this person was like a counter protester who was going to hurt Preddy? They're in a split second like that maybe sounds ridiculous. And I think the possibility that that would happen is. Is minimal, remote, ridiculous. Yes, I get all of that. But they're the authorities and so do I think that it looked like it was slow to get first aid to Preddy. Yeah, it does look like that to me. But I don't think it's necessarily given that because someone standing there who was involved in the demonstration on the street that they say that they're their first aid. I don't necessarily know that. You just say okay, go do give this man medical attention. So that, that's. As I was reading the article, I still don't think that was addressed in a satisfying way. Thank you Katie for the emails. Here's a nice email, looks like from Craig who says love the After Party podcast. Appreciate that you often surprise me with your comments and or insight. I truly mean that as a compliment. Thank you Craig. Most of the time I can guess what a commentary journalist will say about a topic and even I agree with them. It gets a little redundant for me. Anyways, thank you for providing a Christian conservative perspective that is nuanced and multidimensional. Craig, that is very, very kind. I appreciate it. Two questions from Craig who says he loves current events in the daily news cycle, likes the inside baseball stuff. His wife on the other hand couldn't care less. Love that for her Craig. She's smart, educated and capable, but she doesn't have an interest in the day to day or even month to month news. This is one of the many ways we compliment each other. Love it. She acknowledges that she'd like to know more about what's going on, but she doesn't have the time or passion to listen to daily podcasts or newsletters. What is a good source of news and commentary for her? Feel free to promote your own podcast or the Christian and or conservative outlets that give the macro story for a wider audience. You know what I actually really like? It is daily but it's quick. So I really like Morning Wire. The Daily Wire does that Cabot Phillips over there. I've known him for a Long time I've known John, I've known John Bickley Cabot and I go way back. But I think Morning Wire is a really good product and it has been for a long time. So I'd recommend Morning Wire because it's, it's so short and succinct and AM Update, of course, and AM Update I think honestly goes into, you know, some, some real detail and if there's a story that is big you can expect on AM Update that you're going to get a super well rounded perspective that is the news, but it's the news as you know, the, it's, it's like because again, I read scripts on AM Update and they just blow my mind at how impressive they are. Like it's the team that does AM Update me is so her news judgment is incredible. Their respect for and command of facts is incredible. And if you've been following, for example, let's take the Preddy case. If you haven't been following the Preddy case and a big development happens, I just recommend tuning into AM Update that day because you'll get with the granular news updates and that type of thing, the big picture in an accurate, well framed way in addition to that. And it's, it's so helpful, particularly because it's not the same product that you're getting from like the New York Times or npr. What's that called? First look. But it's the exact same news discipline, respect for facts. So those are, those are two that I really recommend and I especially recommend AM Update, like tuning in on a day where there's big news because you're going to get a very well rounded macro look at the story in question that is based on facts. Let's see. Like other Christian conservatives, I'm a big Ali Beth Stucky fan, so I feel like she does a good job balancing news and big picture culture stuff. Definitely recommend that one. I'm trying to think there's anything that I'm, I'm missing. I do listen to a lot of podcasts, so it's kind of just, I, I also listen to like episodically. You know, Batya isn't a Christian conservative, but her show on News Nation, she has very good interesting news judgment too. And it's not, it's, it's not the stale stuff that you're getting from the rest of the press. It's genuinely very interesting commentary. So, and it's once a week, so that might be helpful too. This next question is what do you think about Hunter Brook Media, they specialize in investigative journalism, use their research to make trades in financial markets or litigate corporations using the profits to fund the investigative journalism. That's super interesting, Craig. I actually hadn't heard of them. I'll check that out. I do think that's very, very interesting. There's a fine line. It's not insider trading if you're just doing deep investigative journalism and deep research. A lot of if you do journalism, you do occasionally come across non public information and it would be abhorrent to trade on that. So, you know, if they're just doing public information, which I'm sure that's what they say they're doing, because it would be bad to not. But that's, that's where I think you're going to get into trouble with. If you use investigative journalism to trade and then use the trades to fund the investigative journalism. This is very smart model. But you have to be enormously careful that you're not stumbling into non public information, even tips that people send you. So if you're a journalist, you're getting tips no matter if you ask for them or not. And sometimes in the email itself you're like, whoa, that is not public. That's why it's a tip. And so I think people would have to be really, really careful about that. I don't trade myself. I just have index funds that I don't really pay attention to. I have someone else who pays attention to them for me because it would be a disaster if I tried to trade. Interesting. Thanks for the email, Craig. This is an email from Casey Longer email says the real question I want your opinion on is does being so close to current administration doom your run for presidency due to Americans proclivity of disapproval for the highest elected office. So that seems to be in reference to J.D. vance. Yeah. If J.D. vance runs, do you think he will criticize any of Trump's policies? And Casey brings in how Kamala Harris struggled with that and Harris handled it so poorly that basically, you know, the view. Was it a question from Sunny Hostin was able to blow her over. It's like so incredible to think about. Yeah, I think that's genuinely tough for J.D. vance. I think this is genuinely tough for the Republican Party going forward. I don't know if you have noticed what's happening with Ron DeSantis and data centers down in Florida. Governor DeSantis has been critical of data centers. Now there's mixed polling and I think a lot of that is because it's regional. If your region is having a bad experience with data centers. You might not be so hot on data centers if your region's having a neutral or good experience with them. They might not bother you much or you might actually actively support them. But desantis has been kind of distancing himself from the Stargate Trump AI race against China Trump administration. And I think that's very interesting. Donald Trump has never been super popular with the American people. He has never had a brand that is widely loved. And that's true of most politicians in this era. But I think it's important to remember that even Republicans who vote for Donald Trump Trump or say they're favorable to Donald Trump or approve the job he's doing as president don't always love Trump as a person and often don't love Trump as a person at all. Often just disapprove of his tactics, disapprove of the goofy Greenland stuff or the Canada stuff, whatever it is. Now, I'm not saying you have to think one way or another about any of those things, but that is baggage then that the next Republican, if they come from Trump's orbit, carries with them or if they want to bring along MAGA voters who do love Trump, who love Trumpism, they love Trump, they love the man, the brand, all of it. And I think that's a almost irreconcilable conflict in the Republican electorate that only Trump himself papers over because, you know, everybody who had to grit their teeth and maybe vote for Trump because they liked his policies or his agenda or because they thought the Dem was so bad, then they have to ask themselves if that would apply to Vance or Rubio or someone else. So I think your historical context, Casey, is helpful and I'm sure the Vance camp is thinking about that. Obviously, I think the Desantis camp is thinking about that. It's not impossible. Again, because we're in the era of lesser than two evil politics. So if you. Lesser of two evil politics, so if you, you are up against a really bad Dem, like a Kamala Harris, you can do it. That's, you know, Biden, I think he was a terrible candidate in 2020, but that's because I was paying more attention than the media, to his age than the media really was. I mean, he had kind of moderated, he tacked closer to the center than a lot of the other candidates said, still had a relatively far left platform compared to any other Democrat who ever ran, which is saying something. And people often forget that. But it's going to be tough. And I think that's because even the Republican electorate isn't in love with Trump. So can the next candidate, while Donald Trump is still presumably alive and popular with maga, distance themselves from Trump? I just don't think they can, especially if they're a part of the administration. Can they distance themselves from the wacky Canada Greenland stuff? Stuff? It'll help depending on who the Dem is, of course. But I do think that's a very insightful observation, Casey. This is from Christine, who says emily, not a question, just letting you know that your dramatic readings are getting more and more polished and I'm here for it. Keep up the amazing work you're doing on the pod. Yeah, I have a minor in creative writing and you had to pick a lane. I think one was memoir and one was poetry. And so I technically, I guess have a degree with a concentration in poetry writing. So I have four years of experience of listening to people do dramatic readings, maybe doing dramatic readings myself too. So I love doing it. Frankly, I think there's something about poetry that's very easily satirized. So anyway, thank you, that's very nice. Ryan says how do you keep writing when you're not sure if anyone is reading what you write? I enjoy writing and started a substack, but I'm not sure if anyone is interested in what I have to say. Substack is easier to get, you know, to, to build an audience if you don't come in with a built in audience on social media or anything else. But it's still pretty hard. It's not as hard as like having a blog spot, but it's still pretty hard or your own just independent. So if you want to get people interested in what you're writing, I definitely recommend, you know, building up a following on Twitter. And a good way to build up a following on Twitter or YouTube or Instagram is to on Twitter especially go do like original research. Start putting that out there. So you know, dig into the cross tabs of polls and say like ooh, this poll found X, Y and Z. Maybe you can tag the author of the write up in Politico or wherever of the poll and see if they are T or tag the candidate. Another really great way to do it is to clip things that are happening on cable news or on the floor of the House, the Senate at the White House, like clip original or clip primary source content and put out an accurate quote and that is something that the algorithm will start picking up. So that's a good way to start growing a following and then you can post your articles and the like. Interacting with other authors is a good way. A lot of people have like Google alerts of themselves. So if you write something on substack about this person's substack, it'll show up in their Google alerts and they might respond to you, which drives people your way, that sort of thing. So, and also, you know, if you, if you aren't sure anyone's reading what you write but you like writing, then you can keep writing, no problem, because you like it. So, you know, if you're not sure anybody's reading, just keep doing what you like and maybe an audience will develop or maybe you'll just spend more time doing something like all right, let's see here we have Dylan saying since mid-30s, therefore only realized recently how popular Bad Bunny is. Nevertheless, Mike Johnson took a break from stonewalling the release of the Epstein files to say that Bad Bunny was a terrible choice. That should be someone unifying, like Lee Greenwood. And tpusa took a similar line with its all American halftime show. The this that framing plays into the trope that only people who really love America are fans of country music from the heartland or Lee Green one whose biggest hit was 40 plus years ago, then the number one guy in Spotify, Hip hop, rock and R and B, I suppose not are not American enough for people who take the line that America is not just a proposition nation. This kind of thinking is contradictory because it excludes most of the people who live in America, including many on the right, and especially those who aren't white Midwesterners. Yeah, the Bad Bunny discourse is certainly interesting. And I think if I were Mike Johnson, I probably wouldn't have thought that was a good strategy unless. And I didn't see his full quote, but the proper criticism of Bad Bunny is that he wasn't going to sing in the language most Americans speak. You know, I, I think conservatives came across as way too self serious, probably in this whole debacle. You know, it should have. You can't control the NFL. The NFL is acting like it has been on the far left in the recent years. In recent years. It's not going to stop acting that way because it's a monopoly. So I really think it's appropriate to laugh and to be like, listen, we've got no control over this. We've got no control over this decadent culture. But if you're trying to, you know, put on a good show for Americans, it should probably be in their language, I guess. I think there's a very serious point to be made about the importance of having a shared language and what that means for art, what that means for civic dialogue and the like. But I think there was a lot of self seriousness. Now on the other hand, I still like depart from even people on the right. Like I've seen Rufo, who I respect a lot and others make this argument that because the TPUSA halftime show was country and patriotism and just what a lot of people would see as middlebrow, it it put conservatives back and oh, I really don't agree with that. Like that's the type of thing. And I'm paraphrasing the criticism and I don't want to tribute to anyone specifically. That's what I think the gist of it was. There's a poll that came out who showed more people who watched the TPUSA halftime show liked it than more people who watched the Bad Bunny halftime show. Why is that? Because the middle brow is what conservative Americans like. That's. I'm sorry but like that's our culture. I grew up in Wisconsin and you know, I like have a lot of blue collar family members. Of course I'm like a journalist in Washington D.C. now and I've lived here for a long time. But you know, Lee Bryce, that's country music for my generation. That's what I listened to in high school when I was driving my F150 to school. I love Lee Bryce and I'm sorry, I know it's not the same as, you know, something edgy. It's not edgy at all. It's like, like totally middlebrow. And I don't think that's insulting. I don't think that's makes conservatives look bad at all. Do I think the whole self seriousness of it kind of made conservatives look bad? Because it's like, hey, you couldn't enjoy like maybe what conservatives should have done is had, you know, a Hispanic artist do like a bop but in English. I don't know, maybe that would have been fun find like popular. I'm trying to think of who that might be. Pitbull's kind of conservative. Maybe Pitbull would have done it. I don't know. Pitbull probably wouldn't have done it. But Pitbull supports school choice for some reason. But maybe having doing something like that would have been fun. Just like it was very serious and dour. Like almost all of the songs, like Kid Rock did his song, but a lot of it was really downbeat and that probably was. That probably came across as very Self serious. On the other hand, though, I think there are a lot of conservative journalists or conservative pundits who come from like the east coast or la, whatever, and still have some cultural blindness. Like, there are a lot of people who have been working on this broader project of bringing artists onto the right. And you know, there's the Dime Square crowd and all of that. That, that's great. Like Trump is transgressive. I think it's interesting. I think it's a natural fit for a lot of folks in that world. And you know, they're, they're part of the right for a different reason than people who, like Lee Greenwood and Lee Bryce are part of the right. And you don't always have to do something that reconciles those two differences. I get this, this argument about the brand, truly I do. But you know, that's the, the, the, the brand is also for most people, like, I actually thought it was pretty interesting that Lee Bryce was singing Working Class. That's a great song. Or drinking class. I'm sorry. It's a great song. And that's a song that speaks to more Trump voters than some type of like transgressive art would. Some type of like transgressive musical performance would. So I actually thought, you know, as Republicans are trying to take Democrats spaces in the Rust Belt, you know, people who voted for Obama and the like, who were inspired by the anti war perspective of Obama, whatever it was, anti elite perspective, it was bs, but whatever it was, that's good stuff. So anyway, I, I could do hours talking about that, so I won't. Hank says. Ej, there are a lot of strong opinions on the Muslim dog question floating around. I get that it's a touchy subject, but it's worth noting, when they kill John Wick's dog, he went on a decade long rampage. Just saying. That's a good one, Hank. That's a good one. I guess I already addressed that in this episode, so don't need to go back into Randy Find Dog Gate. Richard says, you have quickly become my go to podcast for news and opinion. Two things. Please arrange for a conversation with Tim Dillon. Not an interview, but a real deep dive conversation. That would be amazing. Oh, I love Tim Dillon. Believe me. We've tried to get Tim on. So Tim, if you're listening, please come on the show. It'll be a lot of fun. That would be great. He's a super busy dude though. All right. This is also Richard saying something about a Lowe's layoff. Full pro, full on pro. Democrat and dei before Trump. They laid off 600 in the corporate office. You can blame a slow economy, but it could be a result of choosing the wrong horse. You know, I wonder also if it's a result of AI. I know there's a lot of skepticism about how much productivity AI is actually bringing into these workplaces. But. But a lot of these white collar jobs, legal, et cetera, are very vulnerable right now. Here is a question from Stephen who says, I have a feeling I know the answer, but I'd still like to hear your thoughts. Do you consider yourself a Christian American or an American Christian? Interesting question, Stephen, and this email has a lot of thoughts in it. But I would say obviously you probably knew this because you said you probably knew this Christian American, God, family, country. I think that's the right order. But yeah, of course my priority is Jesus Christ above all else. He truly died and rose again. That is a fact. That is a part of world history. I've always pointed people towards certain books on that if they want to read Tom Holland's Dominion. So I don't have any choice but to prioritize Christ over all else. Thanks so much, Stephen, for that question. Christine says, curious your thoughts. This is some stuff on our Epstein deep dive that we did with Megan, a little on Anna Kasparians, but Christine says, curious your thoughts on the new Anna Casparian was on Wednesday's show, as you know. But curious your thoughts on the new wave of new media, new wealthy individuals speaking on behalf of the working class and not capturing how we really feel. Deal. Are they in a new bubble? Absolutely, they're in a new bubble, Christine. I have to try so hard not to be a part of that bubble. You know, polling on Operation Midnight Hammer, that strike in Iran, you saw people like me, although I didn't purport to be like some representative of America first or anything, but people like me finding ourselves skeptical along with like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who does purport to be a voice of America First. Polling showed Midnight Hammer was popular with Republicans. I do think, I don't mean to say Marjorie Taylor Greene is in a bubble. I think, you know, she's a politician making a political argument at that point in time. And it turned out to be more successful than I expected it would be. Although we'll see if there's another Iran strike, maybe before this episode even airs, how successful we can really claim Midnight Hammer to have been at avoiding getting boots on the ground or further escalation and catastrophe. But all that is to say it is absolutely A bubble. It grinds my gears most from people on the left because they are constantly claiming that mantle. But I do think it's a problem. I think it's a serious problem, especially post Trump, because Trump, whatever you think of the guy, he's got a good read on what his voters are interested in. And I don't think a lot of of the Trump supporting pundits have that same instinct. They are making great Money. They're on YouTube. Some of them are trying, they're getting out there. But also I addressed this like a couple of minutes ago. So many people who go into media just attracts and educated like myself, people who went to college and affluent so went to college makeover like six figures type of person. And that is unless you are checking yourself yourself every single day, then it's really hard, really, really hard to be out of that bubble, even when you think you're popping your own bubble constantly. So I love answering your emails for that reason. I love jumping on Sirius XM to take calls every day. Take calls literally every single day for the full hour. So that's always really helpful. But it's, you know, it's extremely, extremely difficult. So I think that's very, very true. Very, very true. On the left. Right? And that's a great point, Christine. Let's see. Marlo. Ooh, lots of questions from Marlowe. I'm encouraged to hear people on the left calling out Jasmine Crockett and AOC as I consider them deeply and serious and wonder how others can see them differently. Am I just too far into my conservative echo chamber? Well, I think Marlo, right now it's, it's safe for people to call out Jasmine Crockett and aoc. Not that Glenn would care either way. Glenn did a great. Marlo mentioned this, a great edition of his show on AOC in Munich. Highly recommend that. But yeah, I think it's right now Crockett has already. People were very afraid to criticize Crockett because, I mean, we talked about what happened to Bowen Yang on his podcast for its time was Matt Rogers who said not to send money to Jasmine Crockett. But I think Crockett has shown herself to be a weak candidate just on the issues. And the left left doesn't like her because she's moderate. So it's easier or she's more moderate than people would like her to be on the left because she's kind of a corporate Dem. So that has made it kind of easier to criticize Crockett. So that would be. And AOC is there are a lot of of people on the left left who have have had an issue with AOC just for being allying herself a bit too much with Nancy Pelosi, as they would argue, and waffling maybe on Israel, as they would argue. So she's already not beloved by like the Dem socialist crowd anymore. Now is there still a lot of love for her? Yes. Do Democratic voters still like her? Yes. I don't think that's true with Crockett, but I think that's where. Where the media tends to be not representative of like, the median Democrat or the median Republican. It's mostly representative of the ideological people who are ideological liberals or ideological conservatives or people who are just down the middle centrists. So I think that probably explains why right now, when they're in a primary situation, Crockett's in a primary situation, people are willing to, you know, needle her. But I think they also really like James Talarico. Of course they really like James Talarico. He pretends to be some, like, relatable representative Christian voice because he goes to seminary and says things that sound right to the left. Just another one that is grading. So anyway, I said I would be disciplined today. I'm going. So long. I. All right, let's go to the Instagram questions. What do we have today? I'm sure we have some good ones here to look at. My inbox is a wild place. All right, here we go. Frank says. Hi, Emily. I have been a fan since Counterpoint started. I just finished Dominion. Ugh. And I just recommended Dominion. And as a recent Christian comfort. Thanks Wes Hoff for convincing me when he went on Roach Rogan. I love that, Frank, so much. Wes was incredible on Rogan. He was great on Sean Ryan last week, too. I was completely amazed by just how ingrained our Christian faith is in the entire moral code of the secular West. You're part of why I read it. So thanks to you as well. Soccer A few times to spoke about the need for a secular moral police to enforce social norms and stigmatize weird antisocial behavior, I. E. Tyler Robinson, I wonder if you had ever spoken to your more material friends and colleagues about your faith. I don't watch Breaking points for religion, but at times I feel like Crystal and Sagar aren't aware of how. How saturated the Christian worldview is even in their own ideologies. Maybe you should respectfully mention soccer. His sexual, secular, almost said sexual moral police. Secular moral police is what we've had for the last six years. How has that turned out? Anyway, thank you for all you do. Oh, I love that last point, Frank. Oh, that is very well said. Another good recommendation, the Air We Breathe by Glenn Scrivener. If you don't have enough time to read Dominion, because it's huge, you can also listen to it if you have Spotify. It's on the audiobook over there, but you can get the audiobook anywhere. But it's free, I think, on Spotify. All this to say we did an entire long segment, Ryan and me, with my friend John Daniel Davidson, who's a very sharp writer over at the Federalist and wrote a, a great book that actually disagreed a bit openly with Tom Holland and Dominion. So you can go look up that clip. That was one of the more challenging faith based conversations. I think it's, that book is, it's, it's a tough read. It's called Pagan America. But go check out that conversation with John Daniel Davidson if you're interesting. If you're interested for how Ryan got into that back and forth with John. I thought, I thought it was very interesting. Yeah, I talk about, I feel like I talk about things from my perspective as a Christian on breaking points all the time, partially just, just because that's where there's a massive gulf between myself and my co hosts on a lot of issues. That's just, I know we're not going to resolve on a, on a political talk show, essentially. You know, most of our segments are between 10 and 20 minutes long. So what I try to do is represent the perspective as best I can. I don't claim to speak for any large group, but just try to say, well, this is my perspective as one of the, you know, 31 people among 30% of the country who don't have a lot of representation in media who think X, Y and Z. So yeah, we definitely talk about that type of stuff. I wonder if Sager has read Dominion. He would love Dominion. I think so. I should ask him about that. He probably has. He reads absolutely everything. But that book does really. And you could, even if you, if you don't have time to read it, go just listen to Tom Holland on a podcast. He's done some great debates. That's a, that's a, that's a book that really can. Has the potential to shift people's paradigms unexpectedly and even when you don't want it to. So highly recommend. Andrew says, hey, Emily, sorry for giving several questions, so feel free to pick which one you like to answer. I'll try to do rapid Fire. What is your view of the political landscape in Tennessee for Republicans? Bridget Blackburn and Lee have the state pretty locked down for conservatives, but is there a deep bench that's an easy one to do? Rapid fire? I don't know, to be honest. But I do think Tennessee is at risk of becoming of becoming like Georgia, especially like Georgia. Maybe a little bit like Texas. If Texas ever ends up being truly purple. It might. But what happened to Atlanta is happening in Nashville. Corporate affluent types who have totally different politics along the lines of what Charles Murray wrote about in Coming Apart, becoming such a dense voting bloc that the Tennessee GOP has to get itself together if it hasn't yet yet. But I don't know. Interesting question. Any advice for Gen Z to get into elected office? With the rise of social media, should potential candidates start cultivating a YouTube TikTok Instagram account? Definitely you're going to have to be on all of those platforms. But I would say if you are Gen Z trying to get an elected office, I really hope that you have taken seriously your qualifications. So you know, as the the Bachelor, as people ask on the Bachelor, are you in it for the right reasons? And you know, if you are, then you should be on those platforms probably already anyway to be influencing the discourse in a direction based on your expertise. You know, what is your expertise? You know, some of you probably know my friend Evita Duffy Alfonso. Her husband is running for Congress up in northern Wisconsin actually, where a lot of my family is, where my mom grew up. So he's Gen Z. Take a look at I think he's running a pretty good campaign. We'll have to get him on soon. Take a look at what he's been, he's been doing. I think it's been a good template for Gen Z. Do you think Puerto Rico for statehood will make more sense with the rise of Latin culture and people like Bad Bunny love the show. I don't know. There are a lot of conservatives who think Puerto Rican statehood wouldn't be so bad for the right. I don't know about that. I, I, I do not know about that. I don't I've lived in D.C. for a long time. I don't believe in D.C. statehood. I think there's a pretty good argument for Puerto Rican statehood. So but the politics of it shouldn't be, you know what party it helps shouldn't be part of the conversation about whether it's moral for Puerto Rican for Puerto Ricans to be part of a state. I think there is a pretty good moral argument for Puerto Rican statehood. But I don't know. There are a lot of conservatives who think it would be good for Republicans. I just not so sure about that. Maybe it's just really hard to say where things go. Sorry, that's not a very good answer, Andrew. But it's a good question. Feo7 says. Any Lent or Ramadan stories? Not particularly. Like I said, I grew up kind of like low church Lutheran Missouri Synod. So you know we, the Lent was in the liturgy but we didn't have as many of the sort of ritualistic observances as actually I know a lot of kind of high church lcms which is most of lcms Wisconsin Synod Lutherans do. So I don't have a ton of Lent stories. Let's see. Tom says. Do you have any advice for my 15 year old conservative daughter? My advice is to read, read, read, read, read, read as much as possible because that gives you just the, the focus, the peace of mind, you know, read about what you're interested in as much as you can and keeps you grounded and it definitely gives you an advantage kind of intellectually and then morally because you'll have a more well rounded worldview. You. So that's, that's my advice. And then someone else says how can I be as cool as you? Let me just say you need higher standards. Go for someone who's really cool. Man, I don't think I've ever been accused of being cool. I'd like to think I'm cool, of course, but I don't know. I don't know. Again, let's see who I'm trying to think of someone who's, who's genuinely cool. Cool. I don't know. Ryan Grimm. Ryan Grim is cool. Yeah. Mega Kelly. Megyn Kelly is cool. Me, I don't know, maybe be, be like Megan if you're trying to be cool. I don't know if I have the cool factor. But anyway, thank you so much everyone. I'm probably setting a record every week for a longest episode of this of these happy hour episodes. But you're sending so many good questions so I appreciate everyone make sure to subscribe if you haven't yet. Emilycaremedia.com is where you can email me and we will see you on Monday 9pm live over on YouTube or catch the podcast afterwards. Have a great weekend everyone. Appreciate it. God bless.
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