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After Party with Emily Jashinsky
“Happy Hour”: Emily Answers YOUR Questions About Media Mentors, Free Speech Absolutism, Dating, and America’s Cultural Divisions
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This week on “Happy Hour” Emily Jashinsky answers your questions about issues of comedy, culture, and personal beliefs. She dives into questions about who she looks up to in media, why 90’s rom-com is one of her favorite genres and the brilliance of “Talladega Nights” and “We’re the Millers.” Emily also answers questions about theology, how she approaches conversations with her guests, and the battle over free speech in the wake of the Jimmy Kimmel/Brendan Carr fight. Emily rounds out the podcast with a look at the current culture, how it’s creating a generation of mismatches leading to misery, her thoughts on app-based dating, Sam Altman, technology, and if we’re headed for a geographic ideological division of America.
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It's an even more casual version of an already pretty casual show where I get to chat with all of you through the great questions and comments you send in via social media and email. So let's get to it. First of all, emilyevilmaycare media.com is the email address. You can hit me up there. I really do read all of the emails, as many of you know, and I write back in honestly almost every case. You can shoot us questions over at the after party. Emily, Instagram as well. I can get through a lot today, so I'll start with some that we got over Instagram. Instagram. Kleinstein9 said any chances to ride this summer bf ever get his bike back? That's a reference to my boyfriend Philip Wegman's motorcycle. Yeah, of course, we, we've been doing lots of, we always, you know, it's his primary mode of transportation actually. So we take the motorcycle everywhere. So that, that definitely, we're definitely riding around this summer. That particular bike, it was a vintage Honda. He's got two vintage Hondas. That one is still in rough shape. Still trying to fix that one. Here's from Texan316. What made you want to get into journalism? Are there people that you look up to in media past now? I think I've told this story before, but Megyn Kelly is just the obvious example. And it sounds, you know, scripted, but it's actually really true. I have this memory, the summer of 2009, whatever my summer job was. I want to say it was a camp counselor year. That sounds right to me. I had like an hour free in the middle of the day to have lunch, watch tv, if I'm remembering correctly. But every day I watched Megan on Fox and I had a, I Have this very vivid memory. I was sitting on the floor eating my lunch and I thought to myself, if I could ever do what she did just once, it would make my life, you know, because I was just this kid in Wisconsin, like sitting in the woods, you know, public school in the woods. Pretty, pretty, like, you know, normal, normal background. But the idea that, you know, I would ever even like be in New York or Washington D.C. like that was just so crazy to me. Let alone actually like having the opportunity to work for Megan, learn from Megan. So I feel really, really lucky. But I promise that's a true story. I've just always really, really looked up to Megyn Kelly because I love how she calls balls and strikes and I love that she's super entertaining while she does it and also very human. I think it's, that's a really difficult thing in media to be on the one hand a sort of fact based journalist and then also walking that line where you don't dabble too much in like overt partisanship, but you also show your human side. And especially for anchors, I think that's just enormously difficult. And it's what the best hosts and anchors are able to do is have that human flair through news delivery or litigating public affairs. It's so tough and Megan is incredible at it and shining in this new form format just, you know, as, as you would expect. So that's, that's just like the coolest thing ever for me. I work for Molly Hemingway. Look up to Molly a lot. I worked for her for like six, six years. Yeah. So that was, I was very fortunate. I love how principled Molly is in. Not at all. I mean she basically is one of the few people I know who's based in the D.C. area and doesn't succumb. I think I actually do sometimes. She does not succumb to the kind of social pressures of the beltway. Everything, if you work in politics or media in dc, everything that's personal is also political, if that makes sense or is also professional. Not just political, probably political also, but the personal and professional are all the same. And so it's, it's definitely takes some like, learning and just watching Molly navigate the, the pressures of like staying completely true to what you believe in and what your values are and coming to your work with that principled framing all of the time. Like that is just, she, she does that better than anyone as she reports out stories. Like she's just really, really good, like talking to sources, all of that sort of thing. So you know. Big, big Molly Hemingway fan of course, and was lucky to learn from Molly Hemingway. Christine M. Says. Loving the new podcast, especially loving the Happy Hour episodes with the questions. So glad you're doing the podcast. Even though I'm old and can't stay up late so I have to listen the next day. Thank you Christine. Thank you so much for listening. I also really love doing Happy Hour because when I was doing Federalist Radio Hour for a while, it was really just me and the microphone and a guest over zoom. So I really like that. That's one of my, one of my favorite things to do is just it's different than looking into a camera and trying to keep all of the visual elements together at the same time. CulpepperKevin asks, what are some of your all time favorite movies? You know, that's a good question. I'm of course I'm so dedicated to television as a medium and I've never really had a great attention span for movies, which sounds, I know it sounds crazy. I love television as it stays with you over an extended period of time. I just finished a month long odyssey of Downton Abbey, and if you've watched Downton Abbey, I was way behind the curve on this one. But if you were like an OG Downton watcher, the idea that somebody crammed that into a month probably seems astounding to you. And that is the commitment to the binge that is late nights, weekends, putting in the damn time that was with Downton. Incredible. This is why I never skip opening credits, because I have so many wonderful memories. This would sound horrifying to people who try to cut out their TV viewing, but I have so many wonderful memories that all return every time you hear a certain theme song. Because sound and memory are tied together in such cool ways that for me, when you watch a show, you should always listen to the theme song so that you can have that as an accessible kind of time capsule memory for yourself. Where something then becomes a, a warm touchstone that you can go back to over and over again. That there are positive memories. It's not always positive, I guess. There are shows that I binged in tougher times. Veep is one of those for me. But I, you know, it's. It, I watch it when I'm kind of. It's, it's funny. It's. It's such a great comedy. But I watch it when I'm kind of down because I remember feeling really down while I was binging through Veep. But I actually just think that Tethers you to your memories and your senses in a really helpful way. So I love that about tv. Long way of saying I really love tv, but I love tv. How it follows you through time. You know, you can't watch a TV show, the totality of a series in a night, even if you try. Unless it's like I'm trying to think of something that only got like one really short season. There are plenty of those shows, I suppose. But yeah, all that is to say I'm a big TV person. Loved Downton, though. Excited to tune into the Downton movies. I always say my favorite movie is Runaway Pride. I love Garry Marshall's movies, Love Garry Marshall's movies. I love Julia Roberts. Richard Gere is fabulous in Runaway Bride, but I think it's as close as you can get to like the perfect 90s Rom com. And the 90s Rom com is just an incredible genre where kind of like with lilithfair, you feel as though at the end of history, right, the Cold War is over, things still feel linear in the sense that this potential for a disruption of that linear timeline, humanity, civilization ending, disruption of that timeline with nuclear weapons. It feels like that threat has sort of become much less urgent and imminent and. And we're in that sandbox. We talked about this when I was talking about Lilith Faire last week. When I was watching the Lilith Faire documentary, the New One, I had the same feeling. And I don't know, people who grew up in the 1990s are reminiscent for the 1990s and nostalgic for the 1990s. I was seven when the 90s ended, so I don't have as many memories as some of you. But when you're. Those are very formative years. And I just though think just trying to disentangle my personal bias here. I think even without my own personal bias, there's something about the 1990s post Cold War period until 911 really. There's a great bit, I think it was Stephen Colbert who did it about what the top news story was, what the top news story was the summer of 2001. And he cuts then to just videos about shark attacks. I think this was a Colbert bit after Osama London was killed in that would have been 2011. Like the. The morning news. It was like Good Morning America clips or something about shark attacks. It just feels like I think about that a lot because it does that period right after the Cold war up until 9 11. I think historically we're going to look back on it as there's a good argument to be made. That's the peak of civilization. Again, this is a very long answer to a question about my favorite movie. And I'm trying to justify Runaway Bride, but I'm having a poppy right now. Very delicious. But that is my explanation for why Rom com 90s movies where there's just this really, I think, healthy sense of gender. You know, I guess I should say sex. Not to be misconstrued, but you know, generally there's that. There's this wholesomeness that starts to, I think get a lot edgier after 911 and a lot more divisive after 9 11. But there's, there's sort of this sense of the, the monoculture really peaking, that the, the, the human condition in the United States of America was sort of as free and prosperous as you could possibly engineer at this kind of peak moment of classical liberalism. That's not to say, of course, things were perfect for everyone. It's just to say the reflections of society and the art at the time I think are so happy and will be happy. Obviously everything is not Titanic, not a happy movie. But there's just a warmth to movies from that time that stands out. And there's something about that time period. Again, even without my biases. I think it's also why I like Dawson's Creek a lot. But we needn't get into Dawson's Creek again. Serious favorite movies. I have a really weird pick for serious favorite movies. I think Deadman Walking, as crazy as it sounds, is the best. Contains the best acting performances in cinematic history. Weird unpopular take. I hear you. I think Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn in that movie are astounding. Like the, the performances that they put up in those movies are just unbelievable. And if you go back and watch them, it's just masterclass in acting. And I really like what, I mean, I like what I think it was Tim Robbins put together with that movie. I know it's based on the sister Helen Prejean book. Conservatives are going to hate this opinion and many people hate my opinion on the death penalty. But we need to get into that once again to answer favorite movie questions. I also really, really love dumb comedies. So we're the Millers. Underrated film. Incredible. I saw it literally like five times in theaters. Whenever that came out, I think it was like 2012 or something. I just kept going over and over again. I thought it was so funny. And now you know that my taste is firmly middle brow. Absolutely love Talladega Nights. I think it's one of the funniest movies of all time. Incredible. Just the outtakes from that film tell you how funny the film is. I'm going down a terrible tangent now because I want to talk about all of the funny TV shows that I love. So it's like my passion in life. But anyway, we'll leave it there for now so I don't end up saying something ridiculous. Here's a question from Will. Who says love what you're doing? What's your denomination and scale of 1 to 10 of much of a theology need? Would you consider yourself denomination? I was, I was raised Lutheran Church, Missouri Senate, lcms, but have ended up in. I was raised in a really low church. LCMS and wonderful, wonderful church. And so now I go to non denominational church and 1 to 10. How much of a theology I think it says nerd. Would you consider yourself? You know, I, I've explored theology more and more recently. Not, I shouldn't say more and more recently, but like last five plus years as the kind of re. Enchantment discourse started bubbling to the surface and there's all kinds of interesting theological questions that raises. So yeah, I'm probably like a. I don't know, compared to the average. Maybe a seven, something like that. But I just have so many friends who like have actual degrees in theology or are preaching or whatever it is that I can't claim to be too far down that path. It's incredible though. I mean it would be like what a dream to get a PhD in theology. Like, I can't imagine how, how interesting that would be. So I wish I was more. But you know, Lutherans tend to be like serious Lutherans, especially if you're like LC MES or Wisconsin Senate. More conservative denominations tend to be theological by nature because they're Lutheran of Luther. And so there's, there's a lot of like theology that get baked into even like confirmation classes and all of that stuff. So it is extremely interesting. Henry asks or says now I'm all wound up and can't sleep. After the show with Rachel and Inez. They're on these wimpy Republicans like white on rice. That's so true, Henry. That is so true. They terrify me. I love having them on the show. They are terrifyingly smart and, you know, terrifyingly, let's say, what's the right word for it. There are a lot of words I could use as to why they're terrifying but terrifyingly sharp too. Like they're, they're, they're done with the white papers and panels that used to define the conservative movement. They are done with the sort of theoretical fidelity to classical liberalism. There's sort of ready to push the boundaries of what needs to be done in a lowercase our Republican society without, you know, throwing it all out for post liberalism. And that's. That's why there's super, super interesting thinkers right now, like how Inez has looked at our education system and said, this is how you can sort of work within the boundaries of a free and just society while also absolutely torching the ground and salting the earth that came before you. It's not easy. And I'm way more. Everyone can make fun of me. I'm way more of a like, sort of. Sort of. What's the right word? Like meek, classical, liberal. Those two. You know, I'm. It's easier for me as a journalist, I think, to, you know, they're. They're more in, like, activist spaces. And it's one of the reasons I'm a journalist because I like thinking about these things and trying to ascertain truth and goodness and all of that. And so I'm always more of a fence sitter. But they are, I think, truly it's. It's another rare breed in actual professional political spaces to find people who actually, I think, reflect the sentiment of the grassroots. And both of them are big, like, Tea Party alumna. So it makes sense that they sort of have those spines of steel. They're amazing people. This is a good one. This is from Aiden, who says, do you think it's hypocritical to not give credit to people that pointed out the hypocrites on the left? Well, you were telling everyone that no matter who, they shouldn't get censored. I like your show, but sometimes it feels like everything is about headlines instead of any research. I'm trying to. As you know, if you've listened to the other episodes, I sort of do this in. In real time. Like, I'm actually reading these questions as we go here. So I'm trying to think. Do you think it's hypocritical to not give credit to people that pointed out the hypocrites on the left while you were telling everyone that no matter who, they shouldn't get censored? I think what this is saying is, is it hypocritical for me to not give credit to, you know, people like, actually Inez and Rachel and Brendan Carr and Aiden? You can send in and correct me if I'm wrong, and I can address it again next week. But Like Inez and Rachel and Brendan Carr, who were saying that the left was like completely hypocritical on this question of censorship and Jimmy Kimmel and all of that. So is it hypocritical for me to not give them credit? I don't, I mean, I don't necessarily agree with the premise. I guess maybe I said something poorly. I'm very open to that. But I also feel like I've through like Michael Knowles and others been pretty open to that. This actually goes exactly with what we were just talking about, how like the Inez and the Inez's and the Rachel's of the world, who are much more representative, like the average Republican voter are like, yeah, boohoo, cry me a river. Jimmy Kimmel, you're such a hypocrite. But I feel like I covered that. It's hard for me to remember sometimes what I did on which platform because there's undercurrents after party and breaking points. And I try my best to like cover the exact same. Well, not the exact same. I do my best to actually cover stuff differently, meaning from different angles or whatever, so there's not too much repetition. Because I know actually some people are amazing and follow from show to show. So I always try to have it be a little bit different and could sometimes lose track of what I said where because I try to come at it with a fresh take so it's not too redundant. And also, all three shows have different audiences. So if I know I'm talking to a disproportionately left wing audience, I don't assume that I'm on the same page as, you know, like a. If I'm talking to like Michael Knowles, for example, there's a little bit more like humility, especially that come to the conversation was like, I'm willing to learn, you know, I'm probably not going to change my mind because of something that Knowles said because we probably agree on most things. But like, if I'm talking to people on the left, I genuinely try to be like, come to the conversations with more humility. So I'm just trying to trace down where I may have said something differently about Jimmy Kimmel. Because my memory is that in general I was pretty much like, yeah, this is not like, I don't think the FCC commissioner first of all. And this is still my take. I don't think Kimmel had. I don't think Kimmel's like two, three day, business day suspension had anything to do with what Brendan Carr said. I think it had Everything to do with Sinclair and Nexar pulling the show, preempting the show and ABC being nervous that Kimmel actually did just piss off a very sensitive and raw portion of the audience after what happened to Charlie Kirk and that Kimmel's show is not doing well and they don't know what to do with it in the long term. So paused at the time Brendan Carr said what he said about we could do this the easy way or the hard way. But. And maybe this is the, the origin of the, the distinction in the question, which is you look at what Brendan Carr did, he has every right, every right to say ABC is not operating in the public interest. If there is a set up for a joke that is misinforming, misinforming a lot of people about the political identification of a assassin. So to say you have to operate in the public interest as long as the FCC has to monitor whether or not these broadcast licenses are operating in the public interest. Brendan Carr and Republicans are looking at the fact that the FCC has existed for all of this time. The media has gotten steadily, steadily less trusted and more biased. And they're saying we've never put our thumb in the scale. So what do you want? Like we're going to do it, we're going to do it. We're going to push you to have some sense of neutrality now. I just am not comfortable with it. I don't like I'm a sort of free speech absolutist. I think the best course is for the government to completely stay out of comedy. In an ideal world, I don't think the FCC would have this power over the broadcast waves. Although we had Michael Knowles on after party to talk about why the concept of free speech absolutism isn't particularly conservative, which I sort of agree with him on. I just happened to come down on a different side of that. So anyway, all that is to say that's sort of been my position that it's like Jimmy Kimmel is ridiculous, the left is ridiculous for like Jane Fonda acting as though she's brave for restarting the Committee to protect the First Amendment, comparing now to the McCarthy era because Jimmy Kimmel got mad and the President jawbones all the time about yanking licenses. Don't like it. It's not my ideal political scenario, fully understand it. And also it does not compare whatsoever to the decade plus of institutional censorship and suppression that the left has engaged in. So it's just, it's all completely insane. That's my position on this. It's sort of a weird, like, comp. I don't know. Compromise isn't the right word in nuanced sense to like self confidence. Not self confidence, self aggrandizing. Like, people always will say something is nuanced when they want to be like, want to flex and be like, I'm really smart. I'm an intellectual. I don't mean it that way. I just mean I think that is actually a question with an answer that I can't capture with like one sentence or something, if that makes sense. All right. More and more here, someone asked, this is Marlo, who asked, is, are logic and public speaking classes still part of a liberal arts education? Honestly, my answer is, I have no idea, but I doubt it. Public speaking, I feel like, is wrapped into everything. Like in public school, we had to do a lot of public speaking. In college we had to like, I think we had to take a public speaking class. But I really doubt if logic is outside of, you know, certain, certain places, certain, like conservative schools, in all likelihood. So that is. Yeah, that's, that's what I would say on that one. Let's see, what else do we have here? Beth asks. I listened to the episode that aired a couple weeks ago about marriage and had a lot of thoughts. It seems like it's not a conservative versus liberal or feminist versus misandry, but more like a communication issue. I think what the real question is is that people aren't sure how to communicate with a partner and set expectations and boundaries before a relationship even has a chance to flourish. I would love to hear a conversation about what young people expect out of a marriage. I just have a suspicion that the young people that aren't having that conversation are expecting the worst from the opposite sex, unfortunately. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. You can use name. All right, I'm going to take another sip here. And this is one of the things when in college I was going back through Christina Hoff Summer's War Against Boys for a re release like 15 years after the original. And what Christina wrote then was so incredibly prescient at the end of the 1990s, you know, as the like the Lilith Fair generation was, and especially as the like Woodstock generation had started becoming really powerful in academia and in certain like education institutions. Christina warned, like, unhappy boys will make women unhappy. An unhappy generation of boys, a miserable generation of boys, an emasculated or poorly socialized generation of boys will create a generation of girls that is as a consequence, going to be destabilized and When I was going through the research again when I was in college as her intern, it was just one of those moments where like man, she predicted the future. Nobody listened and nothing happened. I mean, it's such a black pill to realize that people are screaming into the void about something. And 15 years later, almost nothing was done. And in fact, at the time, in the middle of the rape culture panic, it had only gotten worse. It was clearly getting worse. And all of the way that society treated boys, all of that. To get to this question from Beth, it is really, really scary because in polling right now, we're seeing this mass divergence on political and cultural issues among young men and young women, kids, marriage, their ambitions for both of those things. College graduation rates. This is a pattern that started a really long time ago. But if you have all of these women graduating college and all of these men going into trades, you have women who, their problems with upward mobility across the board. They like a college degree is right now people with a college degree. I would have to look up the exact study, but there's researchers a couple of months ago that found people with a college degree are no longer to make, likely to make more money on average than somebody without a college degree. So this ticket to the middle class, it doesn't do what it used to, even though people go into tons and tons of debt for it. And more women than men do. So women have this expectation that they went to college, so they want a man who is more successful than them. And the man always wants to be more successful than the woman. I shouldn't say always, but in, in for the most part, men want to be, you know, want to be the breadwinners because that's what they feel their purposes. So anyway, that's what they're sort of called to. And that's a different conversation. But anyway, I say that a lot. That's a different conversation because I'm sort of thinking in terms of these tangents. But this is what's so scary is that we're just creating a generation of mismatches. And I mean, maybe the hopeful glass half full part of this is people have to couple up, right? Like in theory is probably why you see the birth rate go down. In fact, Lyman Stone has good research at the Institute for Family Studies about women having fewer babies on average than they say they want to, which is such a sad piece of research. But a lot of it is because women start having children later than is easy for them to end up having as many children as they want to. So it Just it's, it's a recipe for cultural misery. And men are getting more conservative. Women are staying pretty far left and if not going further left, by some measures, just depending on the issue you're talking about in the poll you're looking at. But that's the overall picture and that's really scary because you know, again, maybe the glass half full is that people do ultimately want to get married, have kids on average, so they're going to have to settle down with someone. And I feel that that's kind of what happened with millennials, is that millennials almost caught up on marriage and children by the time the millennial, the oldest millennial is like in their 40s. So maybe it'll happen again. But the pattern here is it's not promising. People are coming, like Bess said, into their relationships with different expectations. They're going into the dating field with different expectations. There seems to be no real end in sight for pornography and artificial intelligence. The combination of pornography and artificial intelligence, the prol of app based dating, the increased isolation that comes with apps and the Internet and social media, people spending less time out in public with friends at those what social scientists called third places. That's not work, that's not home. But you know, the look of bar, kickball league or bowling league, to borrow Robert Putnams phrase. So these, these trends are frightening. We might be, I don't know. The one thing I always think about is whether we hit, and I'll end on this is whether we hit a peak point of, of transhumanism. Do we hit our limit and then healthily adapt. Set a roadmap for civilization, certain principles for civilization. Like think about how the Constitution had this sort of classical liberal or has this roadmap to adapting a classical. In a classical liberal post enlightenment world where you have these principles that the left has always said they want to have be living and breathing like the second Amendment, but that, you know, originalists. And I think this holds up really well when you look back at the evolution of the country. You don't have to bend what's in the Constitution. They are adaptable. So is there something like that we can think about when it comes to technology? Not exactly. That we don't need, like I'm not saying we need a digital constitution. I'm just saying norms that we set for behavior that it's, it's shameful if you're a tech CEO to do something that broaches it. It's shameful if you're a researcher or if you're a government to fund research that does this or that. You know, it's shameful. Maybe there are some laws that come with it, but it's, it's shameful to show your face in public if you are, you know, doing this really unethical cloning or whatever it is. We're, we're just a society without much shame anymore. And I think we could probably use a healthy dose of it, but particularly in technology. You know, I don't know how some of these people sleep at night. Sam Altman was asked that by Tucker Carlson, and he said, not. Well, I don't want, I don't. I don't know why anybody would want that burden. I would not want that burden. But people take it on and make, you know, I think with Altman, do we trust Sam Altman? I mean, the fact that so much power is concentrated in one individual, to me is, Is completely insane. I don't care if they're left wing, right wing or neutral. That's crazy. Talked about that on the show this week too. With what's happening in the Larry Ellison Ellison family roll up of different media properties that seems to be proceeding apace. It's crazy. And maybe that's part of, you know, the, the norms that have to be set and thought about. So is there a time when it felt like 2020 was this with sort of DEI culture stuff? It just like society hit the fever point and the fever broke. Does that happen in a space with technology where the fever breaks and we have this painful adjustment period, but where we end up setting out new norms and practices? Some of it's legal, some of it's cultural. I don't know. I don't know. We're definitely clustering in these different microcultures. And one really, I think, positive microculture is this return of, I don't know, like it's, it's not even necessarily politically conservative, but this, this return. The re enchantment, to use the phrase that folks like Rod Dreher use, who's coming up, by the way, in a couple weeks on the show. Exciting and looking forward to that. But like this, this re enchanted world where people are questioning materialism, rediscovering spirituality, reviving spirituality. I don't think that's going to happen to the entire country or the entire West. I think the likel scenario is that my wild theory is that people who are more and more conservative and people who are more and more liberal geographically start sorting at a higher rate, like Charles Murray wrote about in Coming Apart. But even more intensely where you have people who are conservative living further and further out into the exurbs and into rural America. And basically very few people who are not culturally progressive will live in cities. They'll sort of be these domains will be dominated by people who are culturally more in one direction or the other on an even higher scale where you'll basically not have this hardened core of cultural progressives versus normal people in a city. You know, everyone, if they want to do their progressive policing in Portland, let them do the progressive policing and they'll live with that. And there won't be any remnant left to push back because that remnant will be in rural Oregon and it might even happen on a state by state basis more. Because I just think it is starting to the best hope and I think Charlie Kirk said this, that he saw his role as preventing a revolution or people could say preventing a civil war. I don't necessarily worry too much about a civil war because I think we're also just so everybody is so drained and demoralized that I think it's just going to be a kind of quiet, gradual sorting. I don't know, maybe that's the best case scenario, maybe it's the worst case scenario. But that's what I'm thinking. And you can see how dating and romance would change if we end up sorting more by cultural values and interests, even more again than we have already. So, so I'll cut it off there. Actually, I've probably been rambling long enough. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for watching the show. It means a lot to us. We bring this here just to podcast listeners, so if you aren't subscribed on a podcast feed like Apple or Spotify, please go ahead and do that. It helps us a ton. Subscribe on YouTube if you haven't subscribed there and send your questions in to emilyevilmakeremedia.com if you want it to be answered on after party. It's really easy to put after after Party question in the headline. I can mark it that way in my inbox. And we will get to more and more questions next week. You can send them in at afterparty Emily on Instagram as well. 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