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Mark and Kenny tidy up the proverbial Estate of all things Ciccone, starting with a big picture conversation about the new album, the current critical discourse, and the end of Season Eight - followed by a deep dive into one of the most problematic eras in Madonna history - COVID and the Trash Era. Topics include Instagram wipes, rental van photo shoots, the “Erotica” trash can, the Quarantine Diaries, rose petals, white-out and hand sanitizer, gummy bears, jazz scatting and voice memos, Dua Lipa & Future Nostalgia, The Idol and toxicity, Tick-Tock, Christine & the Queens, gods and goddesses, Sam Smith and the Grammy Awards, BEYONCE and Grace Jones, and the secrets to keeping Madonna entertained during lockdown. Plus, Tina is spotted at the FIFA World Cup, Kenny makes naked art videos, Mark plays dominoes in his bubble, and Madonna meets the biggest diva of them all. “I’ll split your banana!”

Exhausted from the never-ending (and stunning) CONFESSIONS II rollout, Mark and Kenny have a short lie-down and make a special request to the listeners of ALL I WANT TO DO IS TALK ABOUT MADONNA ahead of Season Eight’s final episodes. Please email your contributions to MarkBSnyder@hotmail.com or to @AllIWant2DoisTalkAboutMadonna on Instagram.

Kenny and Mark travel back to June 2020 and revisit their original immediate and intimate conversation about the Madame X tour - recorded a few days after experiencing the show at the Brooklyn Academy of Music in September 2019. At the time, it was the longest episode of AIWTDITAM - oh, how times have changed!

Mark and Kenny wrap up the Madame X album with this gorgeous and vibe-y final track. Topics include: Kimi Djabate, witchcraft, “Bella Ciao”, Ben Gibbard, history lessons, deep research & references, and the courage of admitting the unknown. Plus, a lost documentary idea, Madonna’s cell phone number, and following the clues and hopes for the future. “Let me know that it’s cool, Madonna

Kenny and Mark fly off the rails looking for the fun in this bonus track from Madame X. Topics include: Cape Verde archipelago, Dino D’Santiago, autotune, Mac Miller, toilets, 1987, Madonna’s toes, Judy Garland and Estelle Getty. “Let’s go dancing!”

Mark and Kenny contemplate what makes a pride anthem while discussing the finale proper from Madame X. Topics include X Gonzalez & 2019, love & hurt, messages & oppressions, guitars & strings, Peter Matkiwsky, wrapping up & holding the light, Tracy Young, Daybreakers, DJ Irene & The Alliance, Pride Island, and a whole of tragic magic. “Immigrants are America.”

Kenny and Mark make some episode corrections and get super-vulnerable discussing the lost power ballad from Madame X. Topics include: mercy & grace, Laurie Metcalfe & Scott Rudin, Tori Amos & Neil Gaiman, Bruce Norris’ play Downstate, writing letters, high powers, sinners & punishment, love & grief, flaws & cancellation, Ordinary People, and what makes the best protest music. “Look it up on your own!”

Mark and Kenny reach the destination of the journey and Madonna returns to the dance floor … or does she? Topics include: flexing the pop muscle, vibes, home & the wilderness, Picasso, sharing the search, Vogue snaps, gypsy blood, contentment, realigning values, Honey Dijon, iPods, Offer Nissim, Charlize Theron, the Boom Boom Room, Orlando Puerta, and celebrating DJ Kue. “Platinum Gold!”

Kenny and Mark lose their identities with the return of Maluma to Madame X. Topics include: Lauren D’Elia, Kaytranada, Starrah, cheap jokes, and the further adventures of Mr. Safe and Mrs. Crazy (and the dark shadow of “Soltera”). Plus - Freddy DeMann is ALIVE!!

Mark and Kenny gyrate their hips and discuss a rare cover (and banger) track on Madame X. Topics include: Blaya, tattoos, bisexuality and married women, cachaca, party sets, collaborators, and a deep dive into duet partner Anitta (and her father).