Podcast Episode Summary: All Of It with Alison Stewart

Episode Title: Editing 250 Hours of 'Wicked' (The Big Picture)
Release Date: February 4, 2025
Host: Alison Stewart
Guest: Myron Kerstein, Oscar-Nominated Editor of Wicked
Podcast: All Of It, WNYC

Introduction

In this episode of All Of It, hosted by Alison Stewart, listeners are treated to an in-depth conversation with Myron Kerstein, the Oscar-nominated editor behind the film adaptation of the beloved musical Wicked. Part of the series "The Big Picture," which features conversations with Oscar nominees working behind the camera, this episode delves into the intricate process of editing a major musical production.

Myron Kerstein’s Journey in Film Editing

Alison Stewart opens the discussion by highlighting Myron's monumental task of editing Wicked, which entailed sifting through an astounding 250 hours of footage to create a cohesive two-part film.

Myron Kerstein [02:13]: "It taught me that so much of storytelling goes into the editing craft... I had a lot of power as an editor, and I was also the co-parent of nurturing this baby into existence."

Myron reflects on his first big break in editing, working on the film Black and White, where he assisted renowned editors and learned the nuances of storytelling through film editing.

Myron Kerstein [02:35]: "There was a lot of stars in there like Robert Downey Jr., Brooke Shields, Elijah Wood... these amazing editors who brought me on as an assistant."

Challenges of Editing a Musical

Editing a musical presents unique challenges, as Myron explains the delicate balance between maintaining the narrative flow and integrating live musical performances.

Myron Kerstein [06:14]: "As soon as someone starts singing, the storytelling can maybe stop because you start to just see the song and it could turn into a music video."

He emphasizes the importance of keeping the audience engaged throughout the musical numbers and ensuring that the emotional depth of the story is preserved.

Collaborative Dynamics with Director John Chu

Myron praises his collaboration with director John Chu, describing it as a relationship built on trust and mutual respect.

Myron Kerstein [09:28]: "First and foremost, it's trust. He trusts me a lot... we like each other, there's a shorthand between us."

Their partnership spans multiple projects, including Crazy Rich Asians, highlighting a seamless creative synergy that elevates their projects.

Editing Memorable Scenes in 'Wicked'

A significant portion of the discussion centers around editing key scenes that define the film's emotional landscape. Myron highlights the Ozdesk Ballroom scene as a pivotal moment where the characters Elphaba and Glinda form their friendship.

Myron Kerstein [13:09]: "I really tried to not worry that this was a musical, a fast-paced musical, but to really earn the emotion."

He details the meticulous effort to capture the subtle emotions and evolving dynamics between characters, ensuring that the scene resonates deeply with the audience.

Working with Talented Actors

Myron shares insights into collaborating with Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, emphasizing the importance of capturing authentic performances.

Myron Kerstein [15:09]: "I just wanted to make sure I captured what she was bringing in the dailies... Cynthia was like, no, I can still exist in this world."

For Ariana Grande, known for her comedic talents, Myron discusses the complexities of editing comedic performances without losing the story's integrity.

Myron Kerstein [16:56]: "Comedy is one of the hardest things to cut... you have to make sure that you're still telling the story within the scene."

The 'Defying Gravity' Sequence

One of the episode's highlights is the exploration of the 'Defying Gravity' sequence, arguably one of the most iconic moments in both the musical and the film.

Myron Kerstein [22:01]: "Think about the words... she's trying to take back this power... she's going to fight for what she believes in."

He discusses the technical challenges of editing live performances, especially with complex choreography and special effects, ensuring that the emotional weight of the song is effectively conveyed.

Personal Reflections and Community Impact

Towards the end of the interview, Myron opens up about personal challenges, particularly the impact of local events on his community in Altadena.

Myron Kerstein [27:37]: "We're one of three houses standing amongst thousands of houses that have been flattened... please, a lot of love towards Altadena."

Alison Stewart extends heartfelt wishes to Myron and his family, highlighting the human side behind the creative process.

Conclusion

Alison Stewart wraps up the episode by reiterating Myron Kerstein's significant contributions to Wicked and expressing gratitude for his time and insights.

Myron Kerstein [28:43]: "Thank you so much. This really is an honor."

Listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of the intricate art of film editing, especially within the demanding context of adapting a beloved stage musical to the big screen. Myron Kerstein's experiences underscore the delicate balance between technical skill and creative vision required to bring such a complex project to fruition.

Notable Quotes:

• Myron Kerstein [02:13]: "So much of storytelling goes into the editing craft... I was also the co-parent of nurturing this baby into existence."

• Myron Kerstein [06:14]: "It's really important for us as storytellers to always keep the audience really tight in your hands."

• Myron Kerstein [15:09]: "To really embrace that... her being so grounded and so real was something I loved doing."

• Myron Kerstein [22:01]: "She's trying to take back this power... she's going to fight for what she believes in."

This episode offers a fascinating glimpse into the world behind the scenes of a major film adaptation, emphasizing the pivotal role of editing in shaping the final narrative and emotional impact of a story.