All Of It: June Squibb Joins the Show! – Detailed Episode Summary

Release Date: December 26, 2024

In this engaging episode of All Of It, hosted by Alison Stewart from WNYC, the spotlight shines on acclaimed actress June Squibb as she discusses her latest project, the independent film "Thelma." The conversation delves deep into Squibb's portrayal of a resilient nonagenarian, the film's underlying themes, and her experiences both on and off the screen.

Exploring "Thelma" and June Squibb’s Character

Alison Stewart introduces "Thelma," a film that narrates the story of a 90-year-old woman scammed out of $10,000. Determined to reclaim her money, Thelma embarks on a mission assisted by her sidekick, Ben. June Squibb’s compelling performance as Thelma has garnered critical acclaim, earning her a nod for the Independent Spirit Award.

June Squibb describes her character with passion:

“[00:01:09] June Squibb: Oh, I think she's a wonderful 90 year old with great grit and determination. And she obviously is someone that will let anything go by her if they steal her money. She's determined to go and get it back.”

Family Dynamics and Thelma’s Determination

The conversation shifts to Thelma’s relationship with her grandson, portrayed by Fred Heckinger, a long-time collaborator and friend of the show. Squibb elaborates on the depth of their on-screen chemistry:

“[00:02:03] June Squibb: I think she sees a wonderful young man who's just ready to blossom and is probably, I feel that she thinks he's holding himself back and if she can just help him let loose, then he will just blossom into whatever it is he wants to be.”

Critics have praised the authentic bond between June Squibb and Fred Heckinger, highlighting their genuine chemistry that breathes life into the film's narrative.

Real-Life Inspirations Behind "Thelma"

Alison Stewart shares a poignant moment from the film, revealing that the story mirrors real events experienced by writer and director Josh Margolin's mother. Squibb reflects on the emotional depth this connection brings to the film:

“[00:07:09] June Squibb: Well, I think that people are very eager to help their loved ones. And I think when you're threatened, someone calling you and saying that, you know, your grandson is in jail and He needs $10,000, I think it's natural that you don't question it that much. You think, oh, my God, I can get it together. I'll do that and do whatever they ask just to help him on this.”

Behind the Scenes: Acting and Collaboration

June Squibb opens up about her collaborative relationship with Fred Heckinger, emphasizing honesty and mutual respect as the foundation of their partnership:

“[00:02:15] June Squibb: Oh, he's so dear. He's so loving and he's so honest. I mean, he's honest as a person and he's honest as an actor and I like that. I need that when I'm working. I need someone who is as honest as I hope that I am. So it was a no brainer.”

She also shares heartfelt memories of working with Richard Roundtree, who played Ben, highlighting his kindness and professionalism:

“[00:08:55] June Squibb: It was wonderful. He's such a good actor and such a lovely, delightful guy... He was just the best. We were all really so devastated and hurt, you know, by his going. It was so sad to all of us.”

Embracing Physicality: June Squibb’s Commitment to Stunts

A standout aspect of "Thelma" is Squibb’s dedication to performing her own stunts, which adds authenticity to her character's adventurous spirit. Alison Stewart inquires about this bold choice:

“[00:11:07] June Squibb: Mine completely. Because when I first read that script, I thought, oh, that scooter sounds great. I can't wait to get on that... I really wanted to try things. And they let me try, much to their dismay sometimes. And I didn't kill myself. I was fine. I didn't hurt myself. And so little by little, they let me do more.”

Squibb’s commitment extends beyond stunts; she shares insights into her approach to action scenes and the nuances of portraying a high-energy character at her age:

“[00:12:02] June Squibb: I think the most important thing is to have a big fire behind you as you're walking off. I love that every time I see the film. I get tickled when I see that.”

Portrayal of Aging and Realism in Film

The episode delves into "Thelma"'s unflinching portrayal of aging, a topic Squibb passionately defends:

“[00:13:30] June Squibb: I think we have to. Theater, film, whatever for me is reality. The closer we get to reality, the better it is. And certainly I don't think age should be sugarcoated... It's not like a huge revelation. When you get a certain age, all these things happen.”

This realistic depiction resonates with audiences, offering a refreshing take on elder characters in cinema.

Future Projects and Continued Creativity

Looking ahead, June Squibb shares her excitement about upcoming projects, including an adult cartoon that has piqued her interest:

“[00:15:57] June Squibb: I just committed to an adult cartoon that tickled me. I thought it was pretty funny, a great idea. And I think we're starting that. They think after the first of the year. I have a few other things that I'm sort of deciding on right now.”

She also touches upon her memorable voice role as Nostalgia in the beloved animated film "Inside Out," expressing hope for potential future appearances:

“[00:15:17] June Squibb: I rather doubt it. I think if they do, you know, Inside out three, God knows how long it'll take them to do it. But that would be fun, you know, to go in and do nostalgia again.”

Conclusion

This episode of All Of It offers a comprehensive look into June Squibb's latest venture with "Thelma," highlighting her artistic dedication, the film's meaningful narrative, and Squibb's perspectives on aging and authenticity in storytelling. For listeners who seek an in-depth understanding of the cultural and personal elements that shape such compelling cinema, this episode is a treasure trove of insights and heartfelt discussions.

Notable Quotes:

• “[00:01:09] June Squibb: ... she's a wonderful 90 year old with great grit and determination.”
• “[00:02:03] June Squibb: ... she thinks he's holding himself back and if she can just help him let loose...”
• “[00:07:09] June Squibb: ... you think, oh, my God, I can get it together. I'll do that and do whatever they ask just to help him on this.”
• “[00:12:02] June Squibb: ... have a big fire behind you as you're walking off.”
• “[00:13:30] June Squibb: ... I don't think age should be sugarcoated...”

This summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing listeners with a clear and detailed overview of the discussions and themes explored during June Squibb’s appearance on All Of It.