
Ravi Coltrane performs live ahead of the Coltrane Festival at Smoke Jazz Club.
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Alison Stewart
This is all of it on WNYC. I'm Alison Stewart. The Smoke Jazz Club at 2751 Broadway will host its 12th annual Coltrane Festival and it kicks off tomorrow. The festival is a multi week celebration of the life and music of of John Coltrane in which musicians are invited to perform and engage with Coltrane's work on stage. A fitting artist to kick off this year's festival, Ravi Coltrane, an accomplice saxophonist and composer, and he's the son of John and Alice Coltrane. Ravi Coltrane and his trio will perform at Smoke jazz club from December 11th through December 15th. And I'm excited to say they are in studio with me right now. Nice to meet you, Robby.
Ravi Coltrane
Nice meeting you, Allison. How are you?
Alison Stewart
I'm doing well. I'm going to get to hear you play some music and we're all going to hear you play music.
Ravi Coltrane
What are you going to play first, Leslie? Change the station.
Alison Stewart
Don't do that.
Ravi Coltrane
Or they can find us later somewhere online maybe, but don't. Yeah, don't turn that dial.
Alison Stewart
So what are you going to play for us?
Ravi Coltrane
Well, we're going to play some John Coltrane music. Given that's the theme, I suppose. It's also music that I love to play. And we have the fabulous G. Lahavi here on piano. So we'll be doing some duets of this music and I think we'll start with something from the grand old year of 1959.
Alison Stewart
Okay. All right.
Ravi Coltrane
From a record called Giant Steps. Now I feel like the dj.
Alison Stewart
I know I'm relaxed.
Ravi Coltrane
I'm like, what are you trying to tell me, Robin?
Alison Stewart
What are we gonna hear today?
Ravi Coltrane
This is on a record called Giant Steps. My father recorded this in 1959 right here in the beautiful city of New York. New York City. It's called. The tune's called Countdown Countdown.
Alison Stewart
Let's hear it.
Ravi Coltrane
Countdown. Countdown. SA.
Alison Stewart
That's Ravi Coltrane. He's here to perform for us live ahead of his residency at the Smoke Jazz Club. Starting tomorrow night through December 15th. The sets are part of Smoke's 12th annual Coltrane Festival, happening December 11th through January 5th. So you're gonna start tomorrow. You're gonna start the Coltrane Festival tomorrow. Do you have any sense of what you're gonna play or do you decide on the spot?
Ravi Coltrane
Never, never, never. A sense that takes the fun out of it. Well, of course. Yeah. We'll pick a bunch of tunes that feel appropriate for the space, for the players. I like to kind of work Things out the day of the performance. Really, it kind of helps that surprise element. If it's there for the band, it's definitely going to be there for the audience.
Alison Stewart
Well, let's play in the go back machine. You start out playing the clarinet.
Ravi Coltrane
I did, I did. That was my first instrument. I started in junior high. So however old you are when you were in Junior High, 11, 12, something like that. And I played that through junior high and through high school. I was in the marching band, and then I switched to saxophone shortly after high school.
Alison Stewart
What made you switch to sax?
Ravi Coltrane
You can get more girls with a saxophone. At least that's what they told me. Maybe I should have stuck to the clarinet. Now I. Well, the saxophone is a beautiful, beautiful instrument, you know, And I started listening to jazz music more seriously after high school. You know, it seemed to resonate with me in a way. You know, I hadn't connected with it when I was younger. You know, I always appreciated the music, but later in my life, it really started to have a lot of meaning for me. So, yeah, I wanted to be a part of that meaning.
Alison Stewart
When you started studying your father's music, what did you appreciate about it?
Ravi Coltrane
It's uniqueness. It's absolute uniqueness. I think that's the real beauty of the jazz greats, that any great creative artist, they have such a personal voice. And there's a tendency to want to just do that, just to copy that. Let me just sound like this other guy who sounded like no one else. And that just seems to not be the principle by how they formed their styles. I think it was a real imperative, a must, that each player had embraced their own kind of uniqueness in music and their own personal approach to improvisation and playing. So, yeah, I appreciated that as much as, again, everything that he contributed to music was so, you know, selfless and just very, very grand, you know. But he did it in his own way, you know, with a lot of courage and, you know, not. Not afraid of being himself.
Alison Stewart
We don't want to forget mom either.
Ravi Coltrane
No, can't do that. Can't do that.
Alison Stewart
She's a renowned musician herself. What are your memories of her as a musician?
Ravi Coltrane
Well.
Alison Stewart
Or was it just Mom?
Ravi Coltrane
Well, it's a whole lot of Mom.
Alison Stewart
A whole lot of mom, right?
Ravi Coltrane
Yeah. She raised me and.
Alison Stewart
Do you need to take a sip of water?
Ravi Coltrane
Go ahead.
Alison Stewart
You're about to.
Ravi Coltrane
Okay. Here we go.
Alison Stewart
There we go.
Ravi Coltrane
Thank you.
Alison Stewart
Sure.
Ravi Coltrane
Of course, it's not like it's a sauna in here or anything, but.
Alison Stewart
Talking.
Ravi Coltrane
About mom, my mother was Alice Coltrane. Again, a very, very. Another very unique person in music, but also in life. Very unconventional, very kind and a real seeker. And I think that was the same person she was her whole life. She was a beautiful mother.
Alison Stewart
What kind of. Oh, sorry. I'm sorry.
Ravi Coltrane
No, no, no, it's all right.
Alison Stewart
I'm curious. What kind of music when you were young, did she play around the house?
Ravi Coltrane
Well, she was often at the piano or the organ, kind of playing these, like, spiritual hymns, you know, very quiet pieces, songs of praise, things that she'd learned as a young girl playing in the Baptist church. She was the organist for her church in Detroit. Since she was a very young girl, she was playing organ and, you know, she got into bebop music. Later, her brother was a bassist named Ernest Farrow, who got my mind into jazz and. But the music she played at home, you know, she would play my father's records. You know, I would hear those records. You know, she, you know, she played, you know, music from India. She loved Hindi music and, you know, but mainly it was, you know, her. You know, I'd come home from school and she'd be sitting at the organ playing these hymns, you know, and just singing kind of quietly to herself, you know. And I was a bit too young again to appreciate the depth and the beauty of her commitment at that time. You know, I would just, you know, jump off my bike, race to the front door, say, hi, mom, go right to the television. Yeah, like your average 12 or 13 year old. But, yeah, Alice was very, very special. Very special.
Alison Stewart
It's interesting, you said you were too young to understand. Most kids are like that. When did you sort of understand?
Ravi Coltrane
I'm still working on it. It's definitely a process. I think the longer you live and the more that you experience and the more that you go through the world and connect with others, you start to recognize where the real values are in life and friendships and kind of this collective spirit of. Of love and humanity, you know, combined with creativity and art and music, you know, can be a very, very powerful thing.
Alison Stewart
My guest is Ravi Coltrane. They're going to have at Smalls Jazz. Excuse me, Smoke Jazz Club. They're going to be starting tomorrow night. He's going to be playing part of their 12th annual Coltrane Festival. You're going to play a little bit more for us now. What are we going to hear?
Ravi Coltrane
Yes, we're going to play something. Another John Coltrane piece. This was actually the last thing that my father recorded.
Alison Stewart
Oh, wow.
Ravi Coltrane
You know, his career, his recording career spans about 13 years, really, his professional recording career. There's recordings of him playing in the early 1950s, but really it's around 1955 when he starts to record with Miles, you know, and 12 years later, 67 is, you know, when he passes away. So he was able to accomplish so much in such a very short span of time. And his later music is often. Well, it's not as appreciated as the music that he made in the first part of his career. But the last two years of his music, the music expanded and got very expressive. Very, very expressive, you know. And we're actually going to play a piece from his last recording session. The album was called Expression, and the piece is called Expression.
Alison Stewart
This is Robbie Coltrane SA that was Ravi Coltrane performing. He'll be performing at the Smoke Jazz Club starting tomorrow night through December 15th. The sets are part of the Smoke's 12th annual Coltrane Festival. Happy December 11th through January 5th. And I forgot Gatti's last name. Lahavi. Gadi Lahavi on piano. You're preparing to go to Europe this spring.
Ravi Coltrane
Oh, really?
Alison Stewart
Yeah.
Ravi Coltrane
No one's told me.
Alison Stewart
Oh, nobody told you? Moving on. Let's talk about that.
Ravi Coltrane
Yes, I am going to do something in Europe this spring with Wayne Shorter. Tribute with Danilo Prez and John Patitucci and Brian Blade.
Alison Stewart
How do you prepare for a tour in Europe, to spend time in Europe? Do you record? Do you practice? Do you just. You pack?
Ravi Coltrane
Yeah.
Alison Stewart
That's all you do is you just go.
Ravi Coltrane
Head to the airport on time, which I tend to have an issue with. But, well, a tour like this, it's a great, great honor to be with these musicians who spent so long, 20 plus years performing with Wayne Shorter. And they asked me to be a part of this tour, and I was absolutely honored and thrilled. Wayne is one of the last great, great musical visionaries, in my opinion, thought and feeling in regard to this music, this improvised music that we do. He was such another unconventional thinker and creator, and all of his music is. It's priceless, and it's a real honor to be a part of that project.
Alison Stewart
When you're talking to young musicians who want to be in your position one day, what advice do you give them?
Ravi Coltrane
Don't do it. It's quite.
Alison Stewart
Can you do anything if you can do anything else?
Ravi Coltrane
Well, it's. It's. I mean, it's. There's. It's a real virtue and an honor to be a musician to be able to play and express your creative thoughts and your, you know, all of your inner intuitions and impressions and feelings, you know, to be able to put that all through, out through music and have that affect all those that hear it, hopefully uplift them and inspire them. It is a great, great virtue. So I always encourage musicians to follow their heart, really go after the music that they want to make and play. They don't always have to feel compelled to conform to whatever the expectation of the moment is, you know, they'll have more fun if they follow their intuitions and their. And their. And their musical desires, you know, and it will help them to hopefully achieve something more personal, something that's really, truly coming from them. As artists.
Alison Stewart
Where do you go to find inspiration?
Ravi Coltrane
Well, I have my two sons. Inspire me. They're fantastic artists and musicians, William and Aaron. I try to stay around really fantastic young players like Gary Lahavi, who I've been playing with for a very, very long time. Our drummer is Elay Howell, another incredible young musician. Jason Klotter is going to be playing bass with us. Being. Yeah, being around young players, you know, keeps you young.
Alison Stewart
What other creative pursuits do you have rather than music? For most people, music is their creative pursuit.
Ravi Coltrane
Cooking. Cooking, yeah. The pandemic kind of inspired that, you know, every restaurant being closed and the supermarkets being, you know, not very stocked. Yeah, I got really into cooking. I love it.
Alison Stewart
What do you make? I gotta hear what you make.
Ravi Coltrane
I like to. I like to. I like to get in there and burn, you know, I like to get the, you know, cast iron going really hot. I love to make steaks and chicken and fish, you know.
Alison Stewart
Want to remind people that Ravi Coltrane, he will be at Smoke Jazz Club at 2751 Broadway starting tomorrow night through December 15th. The sets are part of Smoke's 12th annual Coltrane Festival, happening December 11th through January 5th. Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate your time today.
Ravi Coltrane
It was our pleasure. Thank you so much.
Alison Stewart
There's more. All of it on the way.
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Podcast Summary: All Of It – "Ravi Coltrane Performs Live and Previews Coltrane Festival"
Podcast Information:
Episode Details:
Host Alison Stewart introduces the episode by announcing the commencement of the 12th Annual Coltrane Festival at Smoke Jazz Club. The festival is a multi-week celebration honoring the legacy of John Coltrane, featuring performances and engagements with his work. Alison highlights Ravi Coltrane, son of John and Alice Coltrane, as the opening act for the festival.
Key Points:
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“The festival is a multi-week celebration of the life and music of John Coltrane in which musicians are invited to perform and engage with Coltrane's work on stage.” [00:17]
Ravi Coltrane performs a live rendition of John Coltrane’s piece “Countdown” from the 1959 album Giant Steps. The performance showcases Ravi’s dedication to his father’s legacy and his own artistry.
Key Points:
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“It's the grand old year of 1959. From a record called Giant Steps... The tune's called Countdown.” [01:12]
Alison inquires about Ravi’s approach to selecting his setlist for the upcoming festival performances. Ravi explains his preference for spontaneity and adaptability, allowing the music to evolve organically during live performances.
Key Points:
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“We'll pick a bunch of tunes that feel appropriate for the space, for the players. I like to kind of work things out the day of the performance.” [06:52]
Ravi shares his musical background, detailing his transition from the clarinet to the saxophone during his teenage years. He reflects on his growing appreciation for jazz music post-high school and his desire to contribute meaningfully to the genre.
Key Points:
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“You can get more girls with a saxophone. At least that's what they told me. Maybe I should have stuck to the clarinet.” [07:43]
The conversation shifts to Ravi’s mother, Alice Coltrane, and her profound influence on his life and music. Ravi reminisces about his mother's spiritual and musical environment, her dedication to the Baptist church, and her exploration of diverse musical styles, including Indian music.
Key Points:
Quotes:
“My mother was Alice Coltrane... Very unconventional, very kind and a real seeker.” [10:11]
“She would play my father's records... she loved Hindi music.” [11:00]
Ravi introduces another John Coltrane piece, “Expression,” from his father’s last recording session on the album Expression. He reflects on John Coltrane’s prolific yet brief recording career, emphasizing the expressive depth of his later works.
Key Points:
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“His later music is often... very, very expressive.” [13:19]
Alison reveals Ravi's upcoming tour in Europe, featuring performances with Wayne Shorter, Danilo Prez, John Patitucci, and Brian Blade. Ravi expresses his honor in collaborating with such esteemed musicians and his admiration for Wayne Shorter’s innovative contributions to music.
Key Points:
Quotes:
“Wayne is one of the last great musical visionaries... It’s a real honor to be a part of that project.” [19:33]
“Head to the airport on time, which I tend to have an issue with.” [19:55]
When asked about advice for young musicians aiming to follow in his footsteps, Ravi offers a humorous yet earnest response. He encourages musicians to pursue their unique creative instincts and maintain authenticity in their artistry.
Key Points:
Quotes:
“They don’t always have to feel compelled to conform to whatever the expectation of the moment is.” [21:04]
“It is a great, great virtue to be a musician.” [21:00]
Ravi discusses his sources of inspiration, mentioning his sons, William and Aaron, as well as the dynamic energy of playing with young musicians like Gary Lahavi and Elay Howell. Additionally, he shares his passion for cooking, a hobby he developed during the pandemic, which allows him to explore creativity outside of music.
Key Points:
Quotes:
“I have my two sons. Inspire me. They’re fantastic artists and musicians.” [22:11]
“I like to get in there and burn... I love to make steaks and chicken and fish.” [23:06]
Alison wraps up the episode by reminding listeners of Ravi Coltrane’s upcoming performances at Smoke Jazz Club as part of the 12th Annual Coltrane Festival. Ravi expresses his gratitude for the opportunity to participate.
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“Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate your time today.” [23:38]
The transcript includes advertisements and sponsorship messages (e.g., Instacart promotion and WNYC sponsorship details) starting around the [23:38] mark. These sections have been omitted from the summary to maintain focus on the episode's content.
Conclusion:
This episode of All Of It provides an intimate glimpse into Ravi Coltrane's musical journey, his dedication to preserving and expanding his father's legacy, and his insights into creativity and inspiration. Through live performances and thoughtful discussions, Ravi shares his passion for jazz, family influences, and personal pursuits, offering listeners a deep and engaging exploration of culture and context within the vibrant New York City scene.