Podcast Title: All Of It
Host: Alison Stewart
Episode: Riz Ahmed and David McKenzie on Their New Thriller 'Relay'
Release Date: June 9, 2025
Featuring: Riz Ahmed (Actor), David McKenzie (Director)

Introduction

In this episode of All Of It, host Alison Stewart delves into an in-depth conversation with actor Riz Ahmed and director David McKenzie about their latest film, "Relay." Screening at the Tribeca Film Festival and set for a theatrical release on August 22nd, Relay promises to be a gripping addition to the thriller genre.

Overview of "Relay"

"Relay" centers around Riz Ahmed's character, Ash, a mysterious fixer who operates in the shadows to protect whistleblowers. Uniquely, Ash remains silent for the first thirty minutes of the film, communicating solely through body language, eye contact, and a telecommunications relay service designed for the deaf and hard of hearing.

Alison Stewart introduces the film:
"The film Relay features actor Riz Ahmed, but he doesn't speak for the first half hour of the movie..." ([00:40])

Riz Ahmed elaborates on the relay system's role:
"The relay service allows people who are hard of hearing or deaf to communicate effectively, and in the film, Ash uses it to maintain anonymity." ([07: # missing])

The Relay System as a Thriller Anchor

David McKenzie explains the significance of the relay service in the film's suspense:
"The Americans with Disabilities Act prevents the relay operators from disclosing any information. Calls are not recorded, making it untraceable. Ash uses this outdated analog technology to stay ahead of those tracking his digital footprint." ([03:04])

This cat-and-mouse dynamic sets the foundation for the film's tension, as Ash navigates protecting his clients from corporate threats using methods that outpace modern surveillance.

Character Development and Acting Choices

Riz Ahmed discusses the challenge of portraying a character who doesn't speak initially:
"Acting is about listening and being present. Without relying on words, I focused on body language and presence to convey Ash's inner world." ([08:54])

Alison Stewart adds her perspective on acting without dialogue:
"Every conversation in this film is tense. The absence of spoken words forces the audience to engage more deeply, mirroring Ash's guarded nature." ([09:06])

The decision to limit Ash's verbal communication heightens the film's suspense and deepens the audience's connection to his character.

Themes and Storytelling Techniques

The film explores the gray areas between saving individuals and exposing larger systemic issues. Ash often faces moral dilemmas, balancing the protection of vulnerable whistleblowers against the potential to reveal significant truths.

Alison Stewart reflects on Ash's internal conflicts:
"There's a trade-off between saving individuals and saving the world. Ash constantly grapples with whether to protect people or to uphold a greater principle." ([21:43])

Director David McKenzie describes the film as a slow burn:
"It's about building up to something unexpected, revealing layers that keep the audience engaged and guessing." ([14:20])

This approach ensures that the narrative unfolds organically, maintaining suspense without relying solely on high-octane action.

Filming Locations and Production Insights

Shooting took place across various iconic New York locations, including Times Square, Grand Central Station, Jackson Heights in Queens, and the back of a yellow taxi. The fast-paced shooting schedule—capturing 35 scenes in three days—added a dynamic energy to the production.

David McKenzie shares his experience:
"Shooting on live streets brings an organic feel to the film. The vibrant backdrop of New York City adds authenticity and excitement to every scene." ([23:43])

Alison Stewart complements the director's vision:
"The specificity of New York's texture allows the story to come alive, making every scene feel immediate and real." ([24:34])

Conclusion

"Relay" stands out as a unique thriller that blends traditional storytelling with innovative communication methods. Through compelling performances and a meticulously crafted narrative, Riz Ahmed and David McKenzie invite audiences to navigate the intricate dance between secrecy and truth.

Alison Stewart wraps up the discussion:
"With its blend of action and quiet tension, 'Relay' offers a fresh take on the thriller genre, promising to keep viewers on the edge of their seats." ([25:48])

For those interested in exploring the depths of modern surveillance, anonymity, and personal redemption, "Relay" is poised to be a must-watch film this summer.

Notable Quotes:

• David McKenzie ([03:04]): "The relay services do still exist, but that technology is what Riz's character Ash uses to try and stay ahead of people who are able to track his digital footprint."

• Riz Ahmed ([08:54]): "Acting is about listening and just being present. It was a pure experience of what acting often is."

• Alison Stewart ([09:06]): "Every conversation in this film is really tense. There are no casual conversations."

• Alison Stewart ([21:43]): "There's a trade-off between saving individuals and saving the world."

• David McKenzie ([14:20]): "I've always felt it was a slow burn movie... aiming to take you along a winding road and reveal some things unexpectedly."

Upcoming Screening:
"Relay" is currently screening at the Tribeca Film Festival and will be available in theaters starting August 22nd.