The War And Treaty Coming To Irving Plaza

Summary

Podcast Summary: All Of It – "The War And Treaty Coming To Irving Plaza"

Release Date: March 19, 2025
Host: Alison Stewart
Guest: The War and Treaty (Tanya and Michael Trotter)

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Introduction

In this episode of All Of It, hosted by Alison Stewart, listeners are treated to an intimate and insightful conversation with the Grammy-nominated musical duo, The War and Treaty, comprised of husband and wife Tanya and Michael Trotter. The episode centers around their latest album, "Plus One," their upcoming live performance at Irving Plaza, and their journey in the music industry.

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Recording at FAME Studios

Alison Stewart opens the discussion by addressing the influence of recording at the iconic FAME Studios in Muscle Shoals, a place renowned for its rich musical heritage.

• Alison Stewart [07:59]: "You know, I was listening there, listening. And I was thinking, they produce this record at the FAME Studios, right? It's a Muscle Shoals sound. How does making a record there influence how it sounds, Tanya?"

• Tanya Trotter [08:15]: "Well, I mean, the history. When you think of that room and you think of all the people that have had the opportunity to stand behind that booth and what they brought, you know, so the going in the door immediately, the standards are high, not just the singers, but the musicians that have also played in that room. And it just changes how you approach your songs, and it changes how you come into your sessions. You know, there's a reverence in that building. And so us and our band, what we brought to that was that reverence. And, you know, we're very excited that we had an opportunity to record it there."

Insights: Recording at FAME Studios imbues the duo’s music with a depth and authenticity rooted in the studio’s storied past. Tanya emphasizes the high standards and reverence that come with working in such a legendary space, influencing their approach to songwriting and performance.

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Country Music as a Storytelling Vehicle

The conversation shifts to why country music serves as an effective medium for The War and Treaty’s personal narratives.

• Michael Trotter [09:06]: "I think it's always a good vehicle when it's an opportunity to tell a different story. I think that's the key and the goal here. I think so many people believe country music is one way it looks this one way it represents this one thing. And what Ty and I do is we're bringing the representation, but also we're doing a return. Our journey with country music began with Ray Charles, you know, and then country music's journey itself. A lot of people, you know, they go way back with the banjo, but if you will go and you look at some of those stories that the Carter family have and sitting with those black families and those black farmers and just those black southerners, they are the originators of country music. And they looked exactly like Tanya and I."

• Alison Stewart [09:55]: "The banjo came from Africa."

• Michael Trotter [09:57]: "Absolutely. Absolutely."

Insights: Michael highlights the often-overlooked African roots of country music, aligning their work with its original diverse influences. This perspective not only challenges common stereotypes but also honors the genre's true heritage, allowing Tanya and Michael to infuse their music with authenticity and representation.

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Transition into Country Music

Tanya elaborates on their transition from R&B and gospel to country music, emphasizing the organic nature of this shift.

• Tanya Trotter [10:13]: "I would have to say that country music, it found me. I mean, as Michael said, it's always been storytelling, and the truth has always been the foundation of gospel music, you know, So I think that I've always had my foot in what I know as traditional storytelling. And the country music industry just found Michael and I, you know, we were. We moved from Michigan, and we didn't even really know that there was a such thing called the Americana genre. We were just doing music that we loved, and Albion, Michigan introduced us to the blues, you know, all over again. It's not that we didn't know it, but it really ignited something different in us. And so we infused the blues and the gospel, and it just happened to have certain instruments in there that lean into country music. So I think that the country music genre, it really found us and welcomed us with open arms because of the. Maybe the soulful sounds that are on top of instruments that people may not, you know, have heard those voices collaborate with in this era."

Insights: Their move into country music was a natural progression rooted in storytelling and authenticity. Tanya credits their time in Michigan and exposure to blues reinvigorating their musical style, seamlessly blending R&B, gospel, and country elements to create a unique sound that resonated with the Americana genre.

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Producing Their Own Album: Plus One

Alison Stewart transitions to discussing their new album, "Plus One," highlighting their role as producers.

• Alison Stewart [17:21]: "So what is a sonic decision? A decision you made that seemed a little risky."

• Michael Trotter [17:18]: "It is risky."

• Michael Trotter [17:19]: "I don't know. I think in a time where people who play it safe lose, we're seeing it. We're seeing it in everyday life. And the Warren Treaty, we're not a safe band. We take risk, whether it be musical risk or whether it be fashion risk. We take those risks and we take them proudly. And at the end of the day, we take those risks because they're honest."

• Tanya Trotter [18:07]: "Well, I think it says growth and it says that you. I don't think you. I think over time you do learn to trust yourself, you know, as a musician, as an artist and now co-producer on a lot of our projects. It's growing into trusting yourself, you know, because it does seem easier to just write a bunch of songs and give it to someone and let them nurture it into the world. But when you decide that you kind of know what it sounds like, you want to know what your mixes sound like. You want to know. You want to give the freedom to your band to be creative as well. And sometimes you don't have that with the musicians."

• Michael Trotter [19:06]: "But also, I'm the producer."

Insights: Taking on the role of producers for "Plus One" signifies their artistic growth and desire for creative control. Michael emphasizes their commitment to authenticity by taking risks both musically and in their fashion, rejecting the notion of playing it safe to maintain honesty in their work. Tanya highlights the importance of trusting themselves and their creative instincts, ensuring their music aligns with their vision.

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Musical Risks and Authenticity

The duo discusses the importance of taking risks in their music to maintain authenticity.

• Michael Trotter [17:21]: "We take those risks because they're honest."

• Tanya Trotter [18:46]: "You want the freedom. I think it says that you've grown into a place where you really just want to have the freedom to have what it is that you write and you create to sound the way that you want it to sound when it comes, when it hits the ear wave of your fans."

• Michael Trotter [19:25]: "Always let Tanya lead. You won't fail."

Insights: Authenticity is at the core of their artistic philosophy. By embracing risks, The War and Treaty ensures their music remains genuine and resonates deeply with listeners. Michael’s advice to "always let Tanya lead" underscores the collaborative and respectful dynamic within the duo, fostering an environment where creativity thrives.

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Upcoming Tour and Live Performance

Alison Stewart highlights their upcoming live performance and tour details.

• Alison Stewart [22:53]: "March 26th is our first day we hit the road. We go, well, I'm sure the 27th is the first day we hit the road, but our first show is in Minneapolis on March 26th."

• Michael Trotter [23:10]: "The Plus One tour."

• Alison Stewart [23:27]: "The War and Treaty. Their new album is called Plus One. I understand you're gonna be in our area in the spring."

Insights: The War and Treaty are set to embark on the Plus One Tour, starting in Minneapolis on March 26th. Their performances promise to showcase the rich, soulful sounds of their new album, drawing fans eager to experience their live renditions at venues like Irving Plaza on April 8th.

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Future Projects: Film and #MoreTanya

Looking ahead, the duo shares exciting developments about a forthcoming film and a new hashtag campaign.

• Michael Trotter [21:58]: "We're actually moving now into the casting phase, so I'm super excited about it. We've been batting some things around as to who could play me and then who could play Tanya. And I won't say much about this, but I will say this. Here's the tag. The war brought him music. Music brought him love. And the film is actually called the War and Treaty."

• Tanya Trotter [22:31]: "Resilience."

• Michael Trotter [22:38]: "Fight. I would say fight for your right to exist, your right to your healing, and fight for love."

• Michael Trotter [21:42]: "We have a hashtag called more Tonya, and I think that that is a very important hashtag to have more Tonya in the story, more Tanya in speaking, more Tanya in her fashion, as you so kindly are wearing one of Tanya's designs that she didn't even acknowledge."

Insights: The War and Treaty are expanding their artistic endeavors with a biographical film titled "The War and Treaty," aimed at showcasing their love story and resilience. Additionally, their #MoreTanya campaign seeks to amplify Tanya’s influence in storytelling, speech, and fashion, highlighting her as a pivotal force in their collective narrative.

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Conclusion

Alison Stewart wraps up the episode by reiterating the highlights of her conversation with The War and Treaty and teasing future content.

• Alison Stewart [23:28]: "You will be playing live at Irving Plaza coming up in just a few weeks on April 8th."

• Alison Stewart [23:31]: "Coming up, we'll hear more music performed live in our studio. After the break, we'll hear from Ikura of the J pop duo Yasobe about recording songs in both English and Japanese, using their music to tell stories and more."

Final Thoughts: This episode of All Of It delves deep into the artistry and aspirations of The War and Treaty, offering listeners a comprehensive look at their creative process, the significance of their musical choices, and their plans for the future. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to their music, this conversation provides valuable insights into the heart and soul behind their evocative sound.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tanya Trotter [08:15]: "There's a reverence in that building. And so us and our band, what we brought to that was that reverence."

• Michael Trotter [09:06]: "Our journey with country music began with Ray Charles... they are the originators of country music. And they looked exactly like Tanya and I."

• Tanya Trotter [10:13]: "Country music, it found me... we infused the blues and the gospel."

• Michael Trotter [17:19]: "We take those risks because they're honest."

• Michael Trotter [19:25]: "Always let Tanya lead. You won't fail."

• Michael Trotter [22:38]: "Fight for your right to exist, your right to your healing, and fight for love."

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Upcoming Events

• Live Performance: The War and Treaty will perform live at Irving Plaza on April 8th as part of their Plus One Tour.

• Film Project: Expect the release of their biographical film, "The War and Treaty," which delves into their love story and artistic journey.

• Hashtag Campaign: Follow and support their #MoreTanya initiative to amplify Tanya Trotter's role in their storytelling and fashion endeavors.

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Transcript

[Alison Stewart]

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[Michael Trotter]

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[Alison Stewart]

This is all of it on wnyc. I'm Alison Stewart. Thank you for spending part of your day with us this hour. We're going to get into some pretty powerful music, but first I want to tell you about this month's get lit with all of it book club selection. We're reading Mothers and Sons by Adam Hayslett. The novel follows a New York City based asylum lawyer named Peter. He's gay and he's become estranged from his mother after a night of violence 20 years ago tore their relationship apart. But now Peter is faced with the case of a young gay man that reminds him of what happened that night and the secret he and his mother share. I'll be in conversation with author Adam hayslett on Wednesday, April 2nd at the New York Public Library's Stavros Niarchos Foundation Library branch. To get your tickets and to learn how to borrow your ebook from our partners at the New York Public library, head to wnyc.org getlit Tickets are free. They tend to sell out quickly, so reserve yours today. Again, that's wnyc.org getlit so without further ado, let's hear a little bit of music from the War and Treaty. The War and Treaty is comprised of a married couple, Tanya and Michael Trotter. And their music is always chock full of love in all its complicated forms. They dropped their latest album, plus one, on Valentine's Day. There's a lot more I can say about them. Grammy nominees, American music award winners, a movie being made about them.

But the true fact is they make great music.

And next month they'll be making a whole lot of great music live at Irving Plaza.

That's coming up in just a few weeks on April 8th. So let's hear some of Warren Treaty's latest album, plus one.

When they joined us in our performance.

Studio back in February, I asked them to start off with some introductions to the band.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yes, of course. I'm Tonya Trotter.

[Michael Trotter]

I'm Michael.

[Alison Stewart]

Hello.

[Tanya Trotter]

We're the one, Treaty. And these are. This is our amazing band. This is Slim Home on keys.

[Michael Trotter]

Slim's on keys. And then there's Max Brown on guitar over there.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah, and Tom Davis on bass, right there.

[Michael Trotter]

And back there, all caged up, is Bam on the drums.

[Alison Stewart]

All right, you're gonna play our first song for us. What are we gonna hear?

[Michael Trotter]

Can I get a Amen?

[Alison Stewart]

Amen.

[Michael Trotter]

Amen. Let's do it.

[Unknown]

Rocking without sympathy.

[Michael Trotter]

Listen Sunday morning she's.

[Unknown]

A bonafide preacher Laying hands all over me Monday morning she's a certified teacher.

[Michael Trotter]

I'm the lesson that she loves to.

[Unknown]

Teach Tuesday she's a race car driver Burning every curve Driving me crazy look on Wednesday can't get enough of her and I put her first I would hear first Can I get an amen? Can I get an amen? Can I get an 8, man Can I get an 8 million.

[Michael Trotter]

I said.

[Unknown]

Amen get an amen oh, giving you the best that we got yeah Come on, Tanya My hot tidy on a.

[Tanya Trotter]

Thursday after working one long hard day out with the boys Turning up on Fridays Getting out playing rooms in space.

[Unknown]

End of the week you can catch them on a Saturday Right here laying next to me me Just the way we like it Peace and quiet he's everything that I need and I put him first Said I put him first Can I get an ad man Put my family over everything Shout it out if it's you Can I hear swinging from my neck from the Can I get an amen? Got faith in the drink on cancer still drink a beer or two Can I get an amen? From the streets to the country roads back can't argue with the truth Amen, baby got it going on Little mama so strong, right? No mama wrong Amen I've been singing all night long I'm high as a girl Hallelujah but amen Strutting in my cowboy boots on my arm is my baby so fly Amen I would him first yeah, baby I would him first Can I get everything Shout it out if it's you Can I get it at me? I'm bad dog trash Swinging from my neck for the real wild can New York, New York can I get an a.m. can I get an Can I get an.

[Alison Stewart]

Amen? Can I just tell you how many.

Times can I say it? That's the war and treaty.

You know, I was listening there, listening. And I was thinking, they produce this record at the FAME Studios, right? It's a muscle shoal sound. How does making a record there influence how it sounds, Tanya?

[Tanya Trotter]

Well, I mean, the history. When you think of that room and you think of all the people that have had the opportunity to stand behind that booth and what they brought, you know, so the going in the door immediately, the standards are high, not just the singers, but the musicians that have also, you know, played in that room. And it just changes how you approach your songs, and it changes how you come into your sessions. You know, there's a reverence in that building. And so us and our band, what we brought to that was that reverence. And, you know, we're very excited that we had an opportunity to record it there.

[Alison Stewart]

Michael, the New York Times profile said, here's the headline. The Warren Treaty are writing their love story into country music history. Why do you think country music is a good vehicle for telling your personal story?

[Michael Trotter]

Well, I think it's always a good vehicle when it's an opportunity to tell a different story. I think that's the key and the goal here. I think so many people believe country music is one way it looks this one way it represents this one thing. And what Ty and I do is we're bringing the representation, but also we're doing a return. Our journey with country music began with Ray Charles, you know, and then country music's journey itself. A lot of people, you know, they go way back with the banjo, but if you will go and you look at some of those stories that the Carter family have and sitting with those black families and those black farmers and just those black southerners, they are the originators of country music. And they looked exactly like Tanya and I.

[Alison Stewart]

The banjo came from Africa.

[Michael Trotter]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Alison Stewart]

Tanya, before the Warren Treaty, you were solist working in soloist. Excuse me, working in R and B and gospel. What was your move into country music? Was it intentional? Was it something just came and found you?

[Tanya Trotter]

I would have to say that country music, it found me. I mean, as Michael said, it's always been storytelling, and the truth has always been the foundation of gospel music, you know, So I think that I've always had my foot in what I know as traditional storytelling. And the country music industry just found Michael and I, you know, we were. We moved from Michigan, and we didn't even really know that there was a such thing called the Americana genre. We were just doing music that we loved, and Albion, Michigan introduced us to the blues, you know, all over again. It's not that we didn't know it, but it really ignited something different in us. And so we infused the blues and the gospel, and it just happened to have certain instruments in there that lean into country music. So I think that the country music genre, it really found us and welcomed us with open arms because of the. Maybe the soulful sounds that are on top of instruments that people may not, you know, have heard those voices collaborate with in this era.

[Alison Stewart]

That was part of my conversation with the Grammy nominated group the War and Treaty, who are playing at irving plaza on April 8th. We'll hear more about their new album, plus one, after a short break and hear a little more music as well. Stick around. This is all of it. This is all of it. I'm Alison Stewart. Before the break, we heard some great music performed live in our studios from the husband and wife musical duo, the War and Treaty. Their latest album is called Plus One, and we're going to hear a little bit more about it now. But first, I wanted to remind you that next month the War and Treaty will be playing live at Irving Plaza. It's coming up in just a few weeks on April 8th, we're going to hear them play a song called the Glorious Ones, which is the last track on the record. But before we hear it, I asked Michael Trotta to explain why they wanted to end their new album with this song.

[Michael Trotter]

Because at the end of the day, at the end of all my days, it's just she and I. And that's what makes my life glorious at the moment. And it doesn't get no better than that.

[Alison Stewart]

All right, well, let's hear it. This is the Glorious Ones from the War and Treaty.

[Michael Trotter]

All right. Max Brown on acoustic guitar.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Michael Trotter]

Tom Davis on bass. Bam on drums. Slim on keys. Let's go, y'all.

[Unknown]

I don't know they all are.

[Tanya Trotter]

And.

[Unknown]

It'S so bad Will lose power But I gained a second Try Walking with.

[Michael Trotter]

You by my side.

[Unknown]

Do you see how far we've come to broken hearts we come one like a screaming ego sun in the sun I have found love in a glorious one let's go now can you hear the breath in the trees Cooling us Wind, it's cool breeze Lightning may blind and the thunder may roar I have my mind down.

[Tanya Trotter]

In my soul.

[Unknown]

And when lights dim we'll take our rest and fade off in the sunset May our story be sung in the land the glorious one the land A glorious one in the land Glorious one.

[Alison Stewart]

That'S the War and Treaty singing the Glorious One. It's off their new album. It is called Plus One. So I think there are 18 songs on the record.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yes.

[Alison Stewart]

Okay. So what went into that choice?

[Tanya Trotter]

Well, we had a lot of songs. I mean, we recorded, I believe, 60 songs, maybe more.

[Alison Stewart]

60?

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah.

[Alison Stewart]

There's getting laughs from over here.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah. So there's like a double vinyl when you buy the record. We recorded a lot of songs.

[Michael Trotter]

There's a bus flowing through here somewhere and I'm being thrown under.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah. Michael's feet are hanging it from under the bus. Yeah.

[Alison Stewart]

So, Michael, what went into that choice?

[Michael Trotter]

A love of the music and a lack of somebody telling me to stop. That's what that is. Yeah. I. E. Tonya.

[Alison Stewart]

Yeah.

[Tanya Trotter]

He can't be stopped when he's in a riding zone. That's it.

[Alison Stewart]

Yeah. Well, you also are producers on the record.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah.

[Alison Stewart]

Which means you get to make those kinds of decisions.

[Michael Trotter]

That's right.

[Tanya Trotter]

See?

[Alison Stewart]

So what is a sonic decision? A decision you made that seemed a little risky.

[Michael Trotter]

It is risky.

[Alison Stewart]

That's risky, Yes.

[Michael Trotter]

I don't know. I think in a time where people who play it safe lose, we're seeing it. We're seeing it in everyday life. And the Warren Treaty, we're not a safe band. We take risk, whether it be musical risk or whether it be fashion risk. We take those risks and we take them proudly. And at the end of the day, we take those risks because they're honest.

[Alison Stewart]

That's all in terms of producing the album. Tonya, what does it say to you that you're at a place where you want to produce your own music versus just songwriting and handing it in?

[Tanya Trotter]

Well, I think it says growth and it says that you. I don't think you. I think over time you do learn to trust yourself, you know, as a musician, as an artist and now co producer on a lot of our projects. It's growing into trusting yourself, you know, because it does seem easier to just write a bunch of songs and give it to someone and let them nurture it into the world. But when you decide that you kind of know what it sounds like, you want to know what your mixes sound like. You want to know. You want to give the freedom to your band to be creative as well. And sometimes you don't have that with the musicians.

[Michael Trotter]

They're not that good.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah. You know, you want. You want the freedom. I think it says that you've grown into a place where you really just want to have the freedom to have what it is that you write and you create to sound the way that you want it to sound when it comes, when it hits the ear wave of your fans.

[Michael Trotter]

But also, I'm the producer.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yes, he is.

[Alison Stewart]

Up side eye.

[Tanya Trotter]

It was.

[Alison Stewart]

I was straight up side eye.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah.

[Michael Trotter]

It's not Tanya. Tanya.

[Tanya Trotter]

They're silent because they know Tanya's.

[Michael Trotter]

The coat. Like, what he look at. Like a little itty bitty. Like we say co like, softly. Yeah, but I'm the producer.

[Alison Stewart]

Our producer.

[Tanya Trotter]

I get all of this at 3:00am in the morning, but only.

[Michael Trotter]

Only if this project fails is she the actual producer.

[Alison Stewart]

Understood?

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah. If it doesn't work, then I'll take it.

[Alison Stewart]

What did you, as a producer, what did you learn about the way the war and treaty have grown?

[Michael Trotter]

I like to now defer this question to Tommy. No, you can use the word growth.

[Alison Stewart]

Use the word growth.

[Michael Trotter]

I'll tell you what. I produced our album called Heartstown. Completely different experience. I think the first thing that I have learned is that I. That no producer knows what they're really doing without a cast. And for me, Tanya is my supporting cast in everything. But I got another brain, another side of my brain when it comes to producing, and that is the side that is irritating and throbbing. And its name is Max Brown. So he's right there, and he, you know, he is someone who you have to get out of the way and in the way at the same time, and that's what makes it all work. And then with your musicians, you have to literally tell them, you know, be you. Especially this group. This group, they like to think they know what they're doing when they go in the studio and producing. And then they're, like, playing all safe and qu. And I'm like, what in the heck are y'all doing? Like, go for it. Like, be yourself, you know? But the biggest lesson in all of this is this one thing. Always let Tanya lead. You won't fail.

[Tanya Trotter]

He's getting brownie points right now.

[Alison Stewart]

Okay, no brownie point.

[Michael Trotter]

No brownie point. I'm actually being extremely serious.

[Tanya Trotter]

Oh, you are?

[Michael Trotter]

Okay. I haven't failed in life when that has happened. And I think Harshtown was a failure, in my opinion, because I have a hashtag called more Tonya, and I think that that is a very important hashtag to have more Tonya in the story, more Tanya in speaking, more Tanya in her fashion, as you so kindly are wearing one of Tanya's designs that she didn't even acknowledge.

[Tanya Trotter]

I didn't see how I do. I don't have my glasses on, so I have to make sure that's a nice excuse. Thank you.

[Michael Trotter]

We're talking about a voice of our time. In my opinion, Tanya is one of the greatest, if not the greatest vocalists that I believe needs some time to shine. So our next project pieces for me is the hashtag Moretanya.

[Alison Stewart]

So when is it gonna come out?

[Michael Trotter]

Well, you know, it's a very interesting thing that I'm gonna tell you. But it's coming. We're actually moving now into the casting phase, so I'm super excited about it. We've been batting some things around as to who could play me and then who could play Tanya. And I won't say much about this, but I will say this. Here's the tag. The war brought him music. Music brought him love. And the film is actually called the War and Treaty.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah.

[Alison Stewart]

What would a person watching this film take away from your love story, Tanya?

[Tanya Trotter]

Resilience.

[Alison Stewart]

Interesting.

[Tanya Trotter]

It's a love story. It's a love story about resilience.

[Alison Stewart]

What would you say?

[Michael Trotter]

Fight. I would say fight for your right to exist, your right to your healing, and fight for love.

[Alison Stewart]

You're doing all the press. When do you go out on tour? Give me the details.

[Tanya Trotter]

Oh, I'm so excited about this. March 26th is our first day we hit the road. We go, well, I'm sure the 27th is the first day we hit the road, but our first show is in Minneapolis on March 26th.

[Alison Stewart]

And is it gonna be just you guys? You opening for someone? How's it gonna be?

[Michael Trotter]

Oh, it's us.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yeah, it's just a tour.

[Michael Trotter]

The Plus One tour. Oh, yeah, we're touring it. We have opener, and it's gonna be super, super cool.

[Alison Stewart]

My guests have been the War and Treaty. Their new album is called Plus One. I understand you're gonna be in our area in the spring.

[Tanya Trotter]

Yes.

[Michael Trotter]

April 8th. April 8th, Irving Plaza. Yes.

[Alison Stewart]

That was my latest conversation with the Warren Treaty about their latest album, Plus One. They will be playing live at Irving Plaza coming up in just a few weeks on April 8th. Coming up, we'll hear more music performed live in our studio. After the break, we'll hear from Ikura of the J pop duo Yasobe about recording songs in both English and Japanese, using their music to tell stories and more. This is all of it.

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