
In 2000, Philadelphia poet Jill Scott burst onto the R&B and neo-soul scene.
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Alison Stewart Silver
This is all of it on wnyc. I'm Alison Stewart Silver. Liner notes is our series commemorating the 25th anniversaries of our favorite albums. Cast your mind back now to 2000, a great year for new music, especially in R and B. Thanks in large part to. To Jill Scott. In 2000, Jilly from Philly, as she's known, released her debut album, who Is Jill? Words and Sounds, Volume 1. She was 28 years old at the time. Let's listen to the opening track to the album, aptly titled Jilltro.
John Morrison
Give a love, y' all Give a love Jill Scott Love, love I gotta.
Jill Scott
Write it about what's up, everybody? I'm glad to see you all here tonight. It's nice to get this love, I need it Love, love, love, love, love. I love to write poetry. I love to sing. I write poetry, I love to read my poetry. But basically what I live for is inspiration comes from listening to hip hop.
John Morrison
Inspiration comes from R and B. Inspiration.
Jill Scott
Comes from listening to jazz.
John Morrison
Inspiration comes from you hear me Give a love, y' all Give a love. Jill Scott.
Alison Stewart Silver
That opening captures what makes who Is Jill Scott? A classic, poetic writing, a unique voice, and a beat you can't help but move to. John Morrison is a dj, a WXPN host, and author of the Boyz II Men 40th anniversary celebration. Like Jill, he's also a native of Philadelphia, and he's with me now to commemorate the 25th anniversary of who Is Jill Scott? Hey, John.
John Morrison
Hey, what's up, Allison?
Alison Stewart Silver
What do you remember about the first time you heard who Is Jill Scott?
John Morrison
You know, in your intro, you mentioned that Jill was 28. I was 20 when this record came out. And, you know, I was outside, as the kids say, moving around a lot. And I vividly remember the summer that this record came out. This record was everywhere. You know, the singles were big hits. But even like, the album cuts or you would go to like, you know, like a little party or a lounge type spot and the DJs would be playing, you know, the album cuts. It seemed like everybody, you know, whose house I hung out at in Philly during this time had this cd. You know, it was just one of those records that came out and it made an immediate impact. Jill was an instant star, and that was especially the case here in Philly. The city really showed her a lot of love.
Alison Stewart Silver
Listeners, are you a Jill Scott fan? What are your memories of listening to her debut album who Is Jill Scott? When it dropped in 2000? Call or text us at 212-433-WNYC 212-433-9692. What's your favorite song off the album and tell us why? What does it feel like to listen to Jill Scott 25 years later? Our phone number is 212-433-WNYC 212-433-9692. I'm speaking with John Morrison. He's a DJ writer and a WXPN host. We. He is here for our 2 25th anniversary, our silver liner notes series commemorating the 25th anniversary of who is Jill Scott? Words and Sounds, Volume one. Okay, so when you listen to it now, what do you notice when you return to the album that you may not have appreciated when it first came out?
John Morrison
Yeah, one of the things that stands out to me, just revisiting this record, is the depth of lyricism from Jill as a writer. You know what I mean? She's somebody who pretty much like right out the gate, displayed a rare gift of being able to make the mundane feel profound. Right. You listen to a song like the Way A Long Walk, you know, these songs are about very small, intimate things and interactions between two lovers. You know, very small, intimate moments. But the. The energy that she gives these moments, it kind of like blows them up and makes them feel important or grand or reminds us that these little things are important and grand. That kind of depth as a writer. And to be able to do that, especially, you know, considering the fact that Jill was not a veteran songwriter at this point. She was not, you know, 20 years into the game. This is her first record, and she, by her account, started writing songs not too far, you know, before this record came out, too long before this record came out, just. But to just have that skill and that ability to hone in on the small things and reveal the power and depth behind those small things, that's something that blew my mind. When I really sat down and revisited this record. It reminded me of how skilled she.
Alison Stewart Silver
Was, you know, this was produced by a Touch of Jazz collective founded by fellow Philly native Jeff Townes, AKA DJ Jazzy Jeff. What was the reputation of Touch of Jazz and why do they want to produce Jill Scott?
John Morrison
Yeah, I think that I don't know the exact story of how Jill met Jeff. I think she said that she would just show up at A Touch of Jazz studios and, you know, try to, like, get on, try to get Jeff's attention. I'm pretty sure that's how the story went. But the production on this record is absolutely gorgeous. You know, Jeff overseeing the whole Thing Dre and Vidal producing on it, you know, it just. It has, like, that rich, kind of buttery, neo soul sound. Those warm electric pianos. Everything is mixed perfectly. I'm a little bit like, of an audio engineer geek, so I. I appreciate a good mix on a record. It just sounds warm and beautiful, very contemporary for its time, but it also has a timeless feel. Sonically, it holds up. And I think that those folks, you know, Jill, Jeff, and everybody who was around them at the time, they were students of Philadelphia soul music, but also jazz, also black music in particular, but then music in general. So these are folks who really understood how records were made on, you know, almost like atomic level. They understood sound and production and arrangement, and they poured all of that knowledge and skill into this record. And you can. You can hear it. You can feel it.
Alison Stewart Silver
Let's talk to Rocky, who's calling in from Brooklyn. Hey, Rocky, thanks for taking the time to call, all of it.
Rocky
Oh, thank you so much, Allison. I'm just blown away by how she came straight out the block. So powerful. You know, she has a lot of connection with the Roots, and I felt like that album just hit it hard. My favorite songs were Take a Long Walk and Lizelle. He Loves Me. Just the sweetness of it, you know, the feeling that she was in love and she was sharing this with us, and it was this brightness to her music. There was no sadness. There was just pure joy. And I love that. She made me want to get on a bus and go to Philly and see if I could find love like that.
Alison Stewart Silver
Love you, Rocky. Thank you so much for calling in. Let's take a listen to a long walk from Jill Scott.
Jill Scott
You're here. I'm pleased. I really dig your company. Your style, your smile, your peace mentality. Lord have mercy on me I was blind now I can see what a king supposed to be. Baby, I feel free come on and go with me let's take a long walk around the park after dark Find a spot for us to spark conversations. Revelations. Demolitions. Situation. Temptation. Education. Relaxation. Elevation. Maybe we could talk about Sora 3118. Your background. It ain't squeaky clean shit, sometimes we all got to swim upstream. You ain't no saint we all a sinner but you put your good foot down to make you so the winner. I respect that man. You're so fat and you're all that plus supreme.
Alison Stewart Silver
I could just let that keep playing for a while. But we got to get in here a little bit. Dear John, you know the Philly soul Sound was so big in the 70s. The OJ's, Teddy Pendergrass. Do we hear the Philly soul in her music?
John Morrison
Oh, yeah, absolutely. You can tell that, you know, like I said before, you know, we, we heard that song. Jill was a student of this music. You know what I mean? I'm a record collector. I have, you know, pretty much the, the entire Gamble and Huff discography sitting in my house. So I've grew up on this music. I've listened to it, I collect it now. And there's something. There's some kind of, I don't know, like intangible perspective that Jill maintains throughout this record that I think is a holdover from that Philly soul lineage. It's very much a working class, black Philadelphian perspective on the world, perspective on love and intimacy. It's a way that we talk about our loved ones and the way that we talk about love and passion. That is all through those songs that Gamblin, Huff and Tom Bell and all those folks wrote in the 70s that Jill retains on this record. But then the actual sound, the arrangements, you know, I mentioned, you know, those beautiful, like electric pianos. I don't know if they're playing a Rhodes or, or a Wurlitzer throughout this record, but it's definitely one of one of the two. But that sound, that kind of rich, you know, 70s inspired sound, it's. It's at the heart of this record. And a lot of those neo soul records that were coming out around this time, people were young, people were revisiting the music that maybe their parents were into or, you know, older siblings were into in the 70s and creating like a contemporary version or a spin on that sound.
Alison Stewart Silver
I'm speaking with John Morrison, he's a dj, writer and WXPN host. We're here for an edition of our Silver Liner Note series commemorating the 25th anniversary of our favorite albums. We are talking about Jill Scott's debut. Who is Jill Scott? Words and sounds, volume one. Just turned 25. She was involved with the Roots for a while. Why are the Roots important to Jill Scott's early career?
John Morrison
Yeah, the Roots really gave Jill Scott her first big shot or like, entry into the record business. You know, she was performing at open mics. She even toured with a production of Rent around this time, you know. You know, before she, before she got signed. And it was through meeting the Roots and performing at their jam sessions that led to her working with them on their album Things Fall Apart. She co wrote the song youg Got Me and Erykah Badu ended up singing the chorus, the part that Jill wrote. And I think that it put definitely people who were in the know, it put them on notice, like, oh, this is a young force of a writer, somebody and a singer, somebody who, you know, was. Is connected with the roots because, you know, they were at our high level musicians. Their entire circle at that time, you know, went on to be the who's who of contemporary black music at that time. So I think it was important for Jill to be aligned with them. And there's the Philly connection and there was this connection of young musicians, this idea of young musicians pulling from the music of the 70s and making something new. It all made sense.
Alison Stewart Silver
We're gonna listen to the Way now. What's special about this song?
John Morrison
The Way might be my favorite song on this album. It switches like it's like any great album. It's like one day this song is your favorite, the next day is another. But the Way is a beautiful, beautiful tune. And kind of like what I said earlier, what she's describing is very mundane, you know what I mean? It's very everyday, like the stuff that she's talking about, but it has this power and energy behind it. It just. It's one of those songs that reminds us that being in love and sharing your life with someone makes the small, mundane things magical and just better.
Alison Stewart Silver
Here's the Way from Jill Scott.
Jill Scott
Woke up this morning with a smile on my face Jumped out of bed Took a shower Dressed, cleaned up my place Made me some breakfast Toes two scrambled days grits Grab my pee, grab my purse Grab my jacket off to work Beaming all the way down the road Is it the way you love me, baby? There's no way you love me, baby yeah 4:30, can't wait to get home.
Alison Stewart Silver
That's Jill Scott singing the Way. It's part of our 25th anniversary series called Silver. Liner notes. John Morrison, he's a writer, a WXPN host. He is walking us through Jill Scott. When you think about Jill Scott and you think about R and B in the year 2000, to what extent do you think this album laid the groundwork for R B Beyond 2000?
John Morrison
Yeah, I think that this record set the bar high, you know what I mean? The bar for writing, instrumentation, arrangement. But even beyond, you know, like the technical musical stuff, just emotional depth, you know what I mean? There's. There's. Every now and again a record appears that or is made that kind of reminds us of the potential of the form, you know? The Beach Boys, Pet Sounds was Like that, you know what I mean? I honestly think that this first Jill Scott record is one of those records for R and B. It reminded me, you know, singers and musicians and producers that this is, this is how good it can be, you know what I mean? This is, this is the depth that we can go with this music. And you know, anybody who's a serious R B musician or singer or producer or even a listener, a dj loves this record, you know what I mean? I've never met anybody who's like, ah, you know what I mean? Kind of like so, so about this first Jill Scott record, I think it's a watershed moment in the genre and it's remembered and respected and loved as such.
Alison Stewart Silver
She was a poet, she's an actress as well. Do you think that shows in this record?
John Morrison
Oh, yeah. And I think that in this record, but in also in Jill's live performances, she's, she's a dramatic performer, you know what I mean? I, I always think that. I've always said that rap and singing is, it's akin to acting. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like musicians put on, or, I don't want to say put on a face, but like kind of get into an emotional space to emote and perform. And I think that Jill's background as a poet informs the lyricism here, but I think the acting and that energy informs the vocal performances and how she's able to be so present because, you know, you listen to a lot of these songs, it feels like she's singing it to you, you know what I mean? Like that's, that's presence. That's somebody who can go in a recording booth and transfer the energy, emotion, the feeling that they have inside through a microphone into a record. Not everybody has that, you know what I mean? And it, and it separates, you know, the grown, the grown ups from the kids, you know what I mean? So I, I think that that dramatic flair is all over that record. It's not surprising at all that, you know, once Jill's music career took off, she got into acting. You know, it again, it makes sense.
Alison Stewart Silver
My guest is John Morrison. John, thanks for walking us through. Who is Jill Scott? Words and sounds, volume one.
John Morrison
Absolutely. Thank you.
Alison Stewart Silver
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All Of It Podcast Episode Summary: "Who Is Jill Scott? Words and Sounds Vol. 1' Turns 25 (Silver Liner Notes)"
Podcast Information:
Episode Details:
[00:09] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison introduces the episode as part of the Silver Liner Notes series, celebrating the 25th anniversary of Jill Scott’s groundbreaking debut album. She sets the stage by highlighting the significance of the year 2000 in R&B, particularly emphasizing Jill Scott’s contribution.
[00:09]
"Cast your mind back now to 2000, a great year for new music, especially in R and B. Thanks in large part to... Jill Scott."
[00:45]
Alison plays the album's opening track, "Jilltro," featuring both Jill Scott and DJ John Morrison. This introduction showcases Scott’s poetic writing, unique vocal style, and infectious beats that made her debut album an instant classic.
[01:20] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison transitions to her guest, John Morrison, a DJ, WXPN host, and author, to delve deeper into the album’s impact.
[01:44] John Morrison:
John reminisces about his first encounter with Jill Scott’s album, noting its pervasive presence during summer 2000. He recalls the album's widespread popularity in Philadelphia, emphasizing how it resonated deeply within the local community.
[01:52]
"Jill was an instant star, and that was especially the case here in Philly. The city really showed her a lot of love."
[03:47] John Morrison:
John discusses the profound lyrical depth of Jill Scott’s songwriting. He highlights how Scott transforms mundane, everyday moments into something grand and meaningful, citing "The Way A Long Walk" as an example.
[03:47]
"She's somebody who pretty much like right out the gate, displayed a rare gift of being able to make the mundane feel profound."
[05:30] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison brings attention to the album's production by A Touch of Jazz Collective, led by Jeff Townes (DJ Jazzy Jeff), and explores their influence and reputation.
[05:45] John Morrison:
John praises the album’s production quality, describing it as "absolutely gorgeous" with a "rich, kind of buttery, neo soul sound." He credits the collective's deep understanding of Philadelphia soul, jazz, and black music traditions for the timeless sonic quality of the album.
[05:45]
"They poured all of that knowledge and skill into this record. And you can hear it. You can feel it."
[07:32] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison invites listeners to share their memories and favorite songs from the album. She connects with Rocky from Brooklyn, who shares his admiration for tracks like "Take a Long Walk" and "Lizelle" for their portrayal of pure joy and love.
[07:39] Rocky:
"She made me want to get on a bus and go to Philly and see if I could find love like that."
[07:39]
[09:53] John Morrison:
John introduces "The Way", praising its ability to elevate ordinary experiences into something magical. He reflects on how the song exemplifies the album’s overarching theme of finding profundity in everyday life.
[14:04] Jill Scott:
Alison plays "The Way," exemplifying Jill Scott’s storytelling prowess and emotional resonance.
[09:53] John Morrison:
John elaborates on the album’s Philadelphia soul influences, drawing parallels to 1970s icons like The OJ's and Teddy Pendergrass. He notes the use of warm electric pianos and rich arrangements that pay homage to classic Philly soul while maintaining a contemporary feel.
[09:53]
"You can tell that, you know, like I said before, you know, we heard that song. Jill was a student of this music."
[12:01] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison poses a question about the Roots' significance in Jill Scott’s early career, leading to insights on her collaboration with the band.
[12:27] John Morrison:
John explains how The Roots provided Jill Scott with her initial breakthrough in the music industry. Through open mic performances and collaborations, including co-writing on The Roots' "Things Fall Apart," Scott gained significant exposure and credibility.
[12:27]
"The Roots really gave Jill Scott her first big shot or like, entry into the record business."
[17:01] John Morrison:
John asserts that Jill Scott’s debut album set a high standard for R&B, both in emotional depth and musical sophistication. He compares its impact to seminal works like The Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds," emphasizing its role as a watershed moment in the genre.
[17:01]
"I honestly think that this first Jill Scott record is one of those records for R and B. It reminded me... This is a watershed moment in the genre."
[18:30] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison explores Jill Scott’s diverse talents, questioning how her background in poetry and acting is reflected in her music.
[18:37] John Morrison:
John acknowledges that Scott’s poetic roots enhance her lyrical prowess, while her acting skills contribute to her dynamic and emotionally charged performances. He highlights her ability to convey deep emotion and presence both in recordings and live performances.
[18:37]
"She can go in a recording booth and transfer the energy, emotion, the feeling that they have inside through a microphone into a record."
[20:25] Alison Stewart Silver:
Alison wraps up the episode by thanking John Morrison for his insights and reiterates the significance of celebrating Jill Scott’s enduring legacy through the Silver Liner Notes series.
[20:25]
"Who is Jill Scott? Words and sounds, volume one."
Immediate Impact: Jill Scott’s debut album made a significant splash upon its release in 2000, particularly within the Philadelphia music scene.
Lyrical Depth: Scott’s ability to infuse everyday experiences with profound meaning set her apart as a prolific songwriter.
Production Excellence: The collaboration with A Touch of Jazz Collective ensured a timeless and richly produced sound that blends traditional Philadelphia soul with contemporary neo-soul elements.
Cultural Connections: Associations with esteemed groups like The Roots provided Scott with valuable industry connections and collaborative opportunities.
Legacy and Influence: The album is regarded as a landmark in R&B, influencing future generations of artists with its emotional depth and musical sophistication.
Multifaceted Talent: Jill Scott’s background in poetry and acting enhances her musical performances, adding layers of emotional and dramatic expression.
John Morrison [01:52]:
"Jill was an instant star, and that was especially the case here in Philly. The city really showed her a lot of love."
John Morrison [03:47]:
"She's somebody who pretty much like right out the gate, displayed a rare gift of being able to make the mundane feel profound."
Rocky [07:39]:
"She made me want to get on a bus and go to Philly and see if I could find love like that."
John Morrison [17:01]:
"I honestly think that this first Jill Scott record is one of those records for R and B. It reminded me... This is a watershed moment in the genre."
John Morrison [18:37]:
"She can go in a recording booth and transfer the energy, emotion, the feeling that they have inside through a microphone into a record."
Conclusion: This episode of All Of It thoroughly celebrates Jill Scott’s debut album, emphasizing its enduring impact on the R&B genre and its foundational role in shaping Scott’s illustrious career. Through insightful conversations with John Morrison and heartfelt listener contributions, the episode paints a comprehensive picture of why "Who Is Jill Scott? Words and Sounds, Volume One" remains a beloved and influential work 25 years later.