B (4:37)

What's going on? That's when we discovered the Class 2 Tic Tac and the Mant in the sky hiding behind the terrain. That's right between us and the jellyfish. That's so fast. Right?

A (4:49)

So the first thing James Fowler said here is that the Manta Ray UAP hides behind the terrain. Well, this is certainly not a surprise if what we're really dealing with is the California Condor. The Condor follows updrafts among cliffs and mountainous landscapes. And this is the exact geography of the area outside of Palmdale, California.

B (5:14)

It looks kind of like a trash bag that never descends. Or an amorphous shape that's rolling and tumbling constantly.

A (5:23)

James Fowler then says the Man UAP looks like a trash bag, an amorphous shape that just never seems to descend or ascend. Well, in the glaring daylight from a distance, this is exactly what a California Condor might look like.

B (5:45)

Like, but and. And then also a Tic Tac right next to it. So they were both in the sky kind of about the same place.

A (5:52)

Okay. It's right here in James Fowler's comments on American Alchemy that I began to wonder for the first time, are we Being trolled. Are we being trolled here? And I'm usually not that skeptical. But when sky watcher matches up video of an airplane crossing the camera at the same time as the Manta Ray UAP is on the camera and the airplane is at a particular angle to where it looks like a white Tic Tac. In other words, it's kind of tilted. You can't see the wings of the airplane. It's glowing in the daytime sunlight. It is Tic Tac shaped. It looks like a Tic Tac, but it's clearly an airplane. Right. You can see the exhaust. It's here that I wondered for the first time, are we being trolled? I don't know why they would do that. But you have to ask yourselves, why are they saying all these comments that perfectly describe a bird? Why are they talking about the Manta Ray UAP being in the sky at the same time as a Tic Tac and showing a video of the Manta Ray in the sky with an airplane. It just doesn't make any sense.

B (7:21)

About 800 meters elevation, about 800 meters away. We're watching them. Manta Ray for about 20 and then the Tic Tac for about 5.

A (7:28)

Okay, so next, James Fowler tells American Alchemy and Jesse Michaels that the Manta AUAP is at an altitude of 800 meters. 800 meters is equal to 2,625ft. And that might sound pretty high up there until you consider that North America's largest bird, the California Condor, flies at altitudes up to 15,000ft. Again, this terrain around Palmdale, perfect for soaring California Condors. Think about that. 15,000ft. The California Condor can be way up there. Would you know what you were looking at if you saw one of these massive birds floating in the sky at 15,000ft? What if you saw it through binoculars? What if you zoomed in on your cell phone camera and you saw this huge thing reflecting the sunlight floating across the sky, what would you think?

B (8:40)

It looks like a black body object that might have perhaps vents on top of it that emanate some kind of. I'll just call it plasma. Not necessarily a plasma, although I do believe plasma is seen in conjunction with UAPs often. But we don't know that. Right, so emanate something that looks like plasma. Ish.

A (8:58)

Okay, this is another perplexing part of James Fowler's comments is when he takes. Is when he takes prosaic things and describes them in a completely inexplicable way. Here you can see if you're Watching this on video, I've got a couple of still frames of the California Condor. One shows this massive wingspan which can be up to 10ft. We'll talk about that in a minute. But they all show how the California Condor, like the Turkey vulture, has these feathers that glow this silvery glow in the sunlight. But James Fowler tells Jesse Michaels that this black bodied living Manta Ray UAP has vents on top of it that emit some sort of plasma. It's not a huge bird with silvery feathers reflecting the sun, which we know is the case with the California Condor. No, it's a man array shaped UAP that's living and is emitting plasma through vents on the top of it. Very interesting comments. And again, this is why I wondered, is sky watcher trolling us for some unknown purpose?

B (10:40)

We've seen the Class 5 only twice, I guess three times now. We don't know a whole lot about it. We have it on radar, we have it on all the bands of imagery. We don't have any sign for it. It's probably about two and a half meters in diameter.

A (10:55)

Okay, James Fowler says a lot of interesting things here in this clip. First, he says they've only seen the Manta Ray UAP two or three times. Well, that perfectly aligns with your probability of spotting a California Condor in the wild. Only about 350 California condors are estimated to live in the wild, and a good many of them are just outside of Palmdale, California. I also want to point out with James's comments about the Manta Ray UAP being in the sky with the Tic Tac. He says the Manta UAP, we kept an eye on it for about 20 minutes, but the Tic Tac, we only had an eye on it for about five minutes. He also described an incident where the jellyfish UAP was running some sort of COVID for the Manta Ray and the Tic Tac. Okay, let's just think about that for a second. What if you were actually watching a California Condor with an airplane crossing the sky? How long would you have an eye on the bird and how long would you have an eye on the airplane? We would probably expect to be able to track the bird for a good bit longer than the airplane. Think about when you see an airplane crossing your sky. I have them cross outside the All Things Unexplained studios here all the time. And I would guess if I just watch one in its entirety for as long as I can see it, it's about five minutes. Meanwhile, we have this old hawk Lives in the neighborhood, comes out every morning, starts screeching. I've heard it does those screeching to scare prey, flush prey out into the open. But that hall could be up in the air about 20 minutes every morning like clockwork. Again, I ask sky watcher trolling us, I don't know. But folks, if you were filming a television show outside of Palmdale, you might have a couple of run ins with North America's largest bird, the California Condor. And you know what? I think that would be fascinating if that is the case. And I think it is quite likely the case. I think that is fascinating. I think that is worth showing. You might actually contribute something new to science. It happens all the time where people set out to study one thing, and just because they're out there observing, because they're documenting, because they're filming, they end up making discoveries about something else that they never intended to study. If you have high quality footage of the California Condor, just show us. It would be great. It would be super fascinating. Just as an aside from the UAPS that you're looking for, I would find that perfectly acceptable. By the way, another red flag that we might be getting trolled. James Fowler at some point tells Jesse Michaels, yeah, we have lowered the quality of the videos that we're releasing on purpose. Why? Because we're trying to prod the government or the military into seeing what they're going to say about it. I find this completely unbelievable. It makes no sense to me. All right, James Fowler also says they have the manta ray UAP on radar and all bands of imagery. They don't show us the radar or the imagery, but you know what? Huge birds show up on radar and all bands of imagery. Large birds like the California Condor show up on radar. They also show up on imagery beyond the visible spectrum due to the plumage and other structures they have that can reflect ultraviolet light. These comments by James Fowler truly reminded me of some sort of bizarro world where everything is the opposite. Instead of picking up a massive bird on radar that is known to be able to reflect light and show up off the visible spectrum, it's a living, breathing UFO shaped like a manta ray, not shaped like a California Condor, which by the way, is an eerily similar shape. The silhouette of a manta ray in the sky. Yeah, it's not the California Condor, it's a man array UAP UFO that we're picking up on radar and all bands of imagery. James also tells Jesse that there's no sigint. SIGINT stands for Signals intelligence. We are maybe to find it anomalous that the Manta Ray UAP doesn't give off any sigint, any signals intelligence. But no one would be surprised if this is a California Condor. Because guess what? California Condors do not give off siget. It is not surprising that a large bird would not emit communications intelligence, electronic intelligence or foreign instrumentation signals intelligence, because no birds do.

B (16:54)

It's probably about two and a half meters in diameter.

A (16:58)

And he goes on to say that the Manta Ray UAP is about 2 1/2 meters in diameter, which equals 8.2ft. As I mentioned earlier, guess what the wingspan of North America's largest bird is 10ft. Is it a coincidence the Manta Ray UAP is approximately the same size as a California Condor? I mean, it is the same size of a California Condor. Certainly there are examples of condors in the wild of varying sizes. 10ft would be the max wingspan. So a California Condor in the wild with an 8.2ft wingspan, perfectly reasonable.

B (17:49)

It just seems to fly through. It doesn't really stop at Smell of Music. Yeah.

A (17:57)

James tells Jesse that the Manta Ray UAP just seems to fly through it doesn't really stop and listen to the music. Check out their technology. Check them out. I want to encourage you the next time you have a turkey vulture flying over or hawk, any other bird for that matter, try to get its attention. Try to get it to stop. Try to get it to land. Try to get it to make a sound at you. Try to get it to look at you. I dare you. Let me know what happens. You can reach out all things unexplainedahoo.com or let us know in the comments. Do you have any luck getting a bird to pay attention to you? That's not surprising. I'm not really sure why they think that they can get a Man Array UAP to stop to pay attention to them, why it would behave differently than a bird. But they do seem surprised by it. We've heard about sky watchers dog whistle. In case you're not familiar with this. It is some sort of technology that they can apparently employ to interact with UAP or perhaps disrupt uap. But guess what? Didn't have any effect on the Man Array uap. It also doesn't have any effect on the California Condor.

B (19:30)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smell the roses. Excuse me. Yeah, it doesn't really hang out. It just kind of moves through and, and, and then leaves. Yep.

A (19:37)

James says it doesn't really hang out, just kind of moves through and leaves. It Says exactly what we would expect from the California Condor

B (19:47)

until the event with the Tic Tac where it hovered in the sky. Yeah.

A (19:52)

So until the event with the Tic Tac where it hovered in the sky. He says, again, this is one of the biggest reasons I have to wonder if they're trolling us. Because they include video of the Manta Ray UAP in the sky at the same time as an airplane. An airplane reflecting the sun. An airplane at a particular angle so that you cannot see its wings, so that it is literally white or silvery and Tic Tac shaped. An airplane that was probably out of view in five minutes. A huge bird. A huge black bird reflecting the sunlight that they were probably able to watch about 20 minutes. All the Manta Ray UAP video was in the daytime. The California Condor is diurnal. That means it is active in the daytime. That's when it can ride the warm thermals around Palmdale and look for prey. There's also been some more Sky Watcher bird developments. They recently released some more information on all the classes and the photo they released for the Class 1 tetra. UAP just happens to literally be a V formation of a flock of birds. This is not a good look for Sky Watcher. And while I have seen some people on Twitter suggesting that these are actually UAP mimicking geese. Merrick von Rennenkampf, who on X Twitter is at M V O N R E N. I believe Merrick has some affiliation with Sky Watcher on Twitter. Merrick responded to Mick west and had this to say. I am very much open to these being birds and think that is likely in this case. I even mentioned the lead bird in the video. Merrick goes on to say, unfortunately, my recommendation for Skywatcher to consult an ornithologist was edited out of the segment. So what exactly is going on with Sky Watcher? Are we being trolled? Is there genuine scientific research of UAPS occurring? Why are they having so much trouble sorting out birds from UAPs? Have they made an entire classification of UAP based on the California Condor and based on a flock of geese? We think everyone deserves the truth, no matter what it is. Let us know your thoughts. Remember, keep looking up. Until next time.

C (22:57)

All things I explained.

A (23:01)

What's your hot take on Travis Taylor?

B (23:09)

I've got an exclusive for you guys

A (23:11)

if you wanted, about Alaska.

B (23:12)

We do. Okay.

A (23:14)

Okay. Dr. Taylor was revealed to be the chief scientist of the UAP Task Force with the Pentagon.

B (23:21)

So some of that, I think, sir, will save the post.