A Unified Smart Home Experience
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Coming up on Hands on Tech, let's take a look at what's involved with setting up a home hub. Stay tuned.
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Micah Sargent
Hello and welcome to Hands On Tech, the show where I, Micah Sargent, take your tech question and answer it. Or try to at least. And occasionally I also review a gadget, but today is a day for questions. And today's question comes in from John who writes, we are a divided house. I use Android, my wife uses Apple. I have all the home automation apps and devices hooked up through my phone and accounts. I'm wondering if using an old iPad she has as a home hub, my thought is she will have access to everything, thermostats, greenhouse controls, outlets, et cetera on the iPad or her phone without having to access my phone. Do you have any tips for this or am I making things too difficult? It's a seventh generation iPad and then John shares the model of the iPad. So John, first and foremost it's interesting because when I get these questions, I tend to get them in the reverse. It's that the main person is on an Apple device and the secondary person is on the Android device and is looking at how to get things set up for them. With you setting things up on Android, this actually helps in some ways because setting things up on the Apple side often involves using Apple's own home kit system. Which means that some people will forego setting things up in those third party apps in the first place because they can just scan that code in Apple's first party app, get it set up, get it roll in with HomeKit and move on from there. The fact that you've done it on Android first means you've done the harder part, which is independent setup of each of these devices with their various apps. And so it's actually much easier to do it on the Apple side if the devices that you have in the home are HomeKit enabled. So if that's the case, yeah, using her phone to scan those HomeKit codes and add those to the home app is going to be a very simple thing to do. If you're planning on using an iPad as a hub, you have a few options. First and foremost, you can just have it kind of as a floating hub, you know, meaning that she can go into the living room and grab the iPad and move it to the kitchen and be able to, you know, make adjustments there. Or you could create a hub that just serves as a hub for both of you if you want to use it, a control panel for both of you if you want to use it. And that can be done in many ways. But one of the products that I recommend for this is a product from Elago, not to be confused with Elgato, but Elago E L A G O, which makes what they call the Home Hub mount. And this, this product is essentially a little, a little pipe that runs across the top and a pipe that runs across the bottom of an iPad that you can then mount on the wall and then behind it. Because of the space between the wall and where the iPad slides in, you are able to run a cable if you want to, directly like from the wall into it. Or if you need to, you can have something running, you know, from the ground to it. But when it comes to this, it's very simple to also have your wife be able to access this, you know, these different settings. Now there are some different tools that are available to you on the third party side that could make it so you both are able to use these devices in similar ways. Meaning that when you learn how to do it, then you can also teach her how to do it.
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Micah Sargent
And that's where a third party system called Home Assistant that's at Home Assistant IO could a great choice for you. So Home Assistant also features a great app that makes your phone, your iPad, your computer, whatever it happens to be into a hub that can control lots of devices. Home Assistant works with more devices than you would get if you were using HomeKit or if you're using the Google Home Access because it is a much more open and robust platform. And so it is quite impressive. What you're able to do with Home Assistant and what that could mean, John, for you is that you're also setting up automations that make things kind of all work together even better than they would otherwise. I think the idea with a smart home is that you get to a place where the smart home is actually smart. Where smart doesn't just mean I connect to the Internet or I have some sort of wireless connection, but smart means that it's thinking ahead for you and it's doing things that you would expect it to do based on the actions that you're taking in a room. So if the humidity sensor that is built into the, you know, smart speaker that I have detects that the humidity is over 65%, then go ahead and run the fan that is, you know, part of the my H vac or when the proximity sensor detects that I am within proximity of it, turn on the lights in that space or using something like, I believe it's, it's. I'm pretty sure it's Govee Go V E E that has this product. There's a, they have this pressure sensor that they just came out with recently, I should say that it just recently came out with. And when you detect pressure of the person sitting down on the sofa, trigger my television watching scene, that kind of a thing. And these are all possible with these different smart home setups. But Home Assistant can be something that can kind of take it to the next level. So there are quite a few options for what you can, you can do, John, but I don't think that you are, you said, are you making things too difficult? I don't think that that's making anything too difficult by making sure that your wife has control. And in fact, I think that that's a necessary component of anyone who sets up a smart home. If you're setting up a smart home, you need to make sure that everybody in the home can access these various controls because otherwise you are running the risk of what they call it, spousal veto I think is the term where they say, I don't want to have anything to do with this. No, I'm sorry, but this is not happening. I can attest that it is very important that you make it so everybody in the home feels like they can use the tools that are available to them. Otherwise things can get pretty bad pretty quick. So make it complicated for yourself, John, to make it less complicated for your wife. That's my recommendation to you. To those of you who are tuning in, I want to remind you all out there that we are always hoping that you'll join us in the Club Twit tv. Club Twit is where you go to sign up for that. Club Twit is available for $7 a month. But right now and for a limited time, we are continuing to offer our two week free trial of Club Twit. So if you have not joined the club and you're looking to try it out and see what it's all about, now's the time to get those two weeks for free. To those of you who are members of Club Twitter are tuning in live. So you are seeing this Twitter tv Club Twit slash referral is where you should head because by referring your friends, you can earn free months of Club Twit.
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Hands-On Tech 198: Connecting An iPad to an Android Smart Home
Released on January 12, 2025 by TWiT
In the latest episode of Hands-On Tech, host Micah Sargent tackles a unique smart home conundrum presented by a listener named John. The episode, titled "Connecting An iPad to an Android Smart Home," delves into the complexities and solutions for integrating Apple and Android ecosystems within a single smart home setup. This comprehensive discussion offers valuable insights for tech enthusiasts navigating mixed-device environments.
John reaches out with a practical dilemma: his household is split between Android and Apple users. He utilizes Android for home automation, managing devices like thermostats, greenhouse controls, and smart outlets through his phone and various apps. However, his wife prefers Apple devices and possesses an older seventh-generation iPad. John wonders if he can leverage this iPad as a home hub, enabling his wife to access and control the smart home devices independently from his Android setup.
John's Query:
"I have all the home automation apps and devices hooked up through my phone and accounts. I'm wondering if using an old iPad she has as a home hub, my thought is she will have access to everything... Do you have any tips for this or am I making things too difficult?" (Timestamp: 01:16)
Micah acknowledges the unconventional nature of John's setup, noting that questions typically arise in the reverse scenario—where the primary user is on Apple and the secondary on Android. He highlights that initiating the setup on Android can be advantageous because it involves independently configuring each device with its respective app, a more challenging process compared to Apple's streamlined HomeKit system.
Key Insights:
Reverse Setup Benefits:
"The fact that you've done it on Android first means you've done the harder part... It's actually much easier to do it on the Apple side if the devices that you have in the home are HomeKit enabled." (02:45)
Utilizing Apple’s HomeKit: Micah suggests that if the smart devices are HomeKit-compatible, John's wife can effortlessly integrate them using the Apple Home app by scanning the HomeKit codes, simplifying her access and control.
Micah offers practical solutions for incorporating the iPad into the smart home ecosystem:
Floating Hub Concept: Allowing the iPad to remain movable within the home, serving as a centralized control panel wherever it's placed.
Wall-Mounted Options: He recommends the Elago Home Hub Mount, a device designed to securely mount the iPad on walls while providing space for cable management. This setup ensures the iPad remains accessible and functional as a dedicated home hub.
"Elago makes what they call the Home Hub mount... you can mount on the wall and then behind it... you are able to run a cable directly from the wall into it." (04:15)
Expanding on smart home integration, Micah introduces Home Assistant, a robust third-party platform available at HomeAssistant.io. He emphasizes its superiority over HomeKit and Google Home in terms of device compatibility and customization.
Benefits of Home Assistant:
Extensive Device Support: Home Assistant supports a wider array of devices, offering more flexibility for diverse smart home setups.
Advanced Automations: The platform allows for sophisticated automations, enabling devices to interact seamlessly based on user-defined triggers and conditions.
"Home Assistant can be something that can kind of take it to the next level... automations that make things kind of all work together even better than they would otherwise." (06:50)
Smart Home Intelligence: Micah envisions a truly intelligent home where systems anticipate and respond to user behaviors, enhancing convenience and efficiency.
A critical aspect of smart home management, as highlighted by Micah, is ensuring that all household members have access to the smart home controls. This inclusivity prevents conflicts and promotes a harmonious living environment.
Micah's Advice:
"I think that that's a necessary component of anyone who sets up a smart home. If you're setting up a smart home, you need to make sure that everybody in the home can access these various controls." (08:30)
He underscores the importance of designing the smart home system in a way that accommodates all users, preventing issues like the "spousal veto," where one party might feel excluded or frustrated by the setup.
In this episode, Micah Sargent provides a thoughtful analysis of integrating Apple and Android devices within a smart home. By leveraging tools like the Elago Home Hub Mount and platforms like Home Assistant, users can create a cohesive and accessible smart home environment that caters to all household members. Micah's advice empowers listeners to embrace the complexities of multi-ecosystem setups, ensuring their smart homes are both functional and inclusive.
For those navigating similar challenges, Hands-On Tech 198 offers actionable solutions and expert insights to streamline and enhance your smart home experience.