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Micah Sargent (0:00)
Coming up on Hands On Tech. Let's take a look at the age old at this time question about whether we need to be using malware protection on our Macs. Stay tuned.
Leo Laporte (0:12)
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Micah Sargent (0:21)
Hello and welcome to Hands On Tech. I am Micah Sargent and today we've got a question from, from Ron, who writes in to say this. You gave me some great advice a few weeks ago regarding my about to be purchased Mac Mini. I now have that Mac Mini and I'm happily using it. Thanks in no small part to you, Ron. Very glad to hear that. I hope you're still loving it even now after you know, you sent in this question. You say a question just came up. Should I get a malware protection program? I know that Macs are not targeted as much as Windows computers. I also know that Leo is skeptical about these on the Windows platform. He points out that our use of the computer is the chief way that problems occur. Do you think the same applies to the Mac? If you think a malware program is a good idea? Which one? So for those of you who are following along at home in the notes, you'll notice that I said I've got, oh, I'll have you know, a lot to say about this. First and foremost, yes. What Leo has said in the past, what our wonderful Steve Gibson has said as well, and what I also feel is the case is that first and foremost, before anything else, your behavior on your machine is the chief way to keep yourself from interacting with malware. Do you regularly download programs from random places? Do you go and open email that has strange attachments and you're downloading PDFs that may have weird links in them that you click on. Are there, is there more than just you using the machine? You know, maybe you'll have somebody who doesn't have that same sort of security knowledge as you. All of those things play into all of those play into whether you need to kind of take more steps to protect yourself. Due to the nature of the work that I do, I have at different times needed to use some stuff on my Mac that maybe isn't, you know, direct from the Mac App Store that isn't sort of blessed by Apple, that isn't this or isn't that. And I do a lot of play in the terminal and I use different packages, open source packages that are downloaded. I mean there are all of these different reasons why you may have some concerns. One good thing to understand is that on top of just the basic functionality and the basic knowledge of the fact that the Mac is targeted less because there are fewer Macs in sort of the business environment and there are fewer kind of bits of malware written specifically for the Mac. All of that comes together to make it so that it's safe. But aside from that, it is important to understand that Apple does regularly add in protections for the system. MacOS by default is a very sandboxed environment where individual apps don't gain access to lots of other parts of the system and have to jump through lots of hoops in order to be able to do so. And if you don't disable system integrity prevention or system integrity protection then you and it's hard to do that. So chances are you have not, you have a lot of extra protections in place. And as the delightful and ever knowledgeable Scooter X has reminded us, there's also X Protect which is kind of a built in tool that helps to provide for kind of in the background checking to make sure that things are working as they as they should and that you don't have concerns there. And Apple regularly updates XProtect and recently as of February 26th had an update for it. The thing is, Windows also has tools like XProtect that you download and that keep the system kind of scanned. And the idea with those programs is typically if the company becomes aware of a kind of wide ranging or quickly spreading bit of malware, then something like those tools can help to remove those bad actors in your machine. Right. But let's talk about what we would do if you know, we feel like we're being protected, we feel like we're doing the right thing, we feel like we're being careful about what we download. But maybe one time you need to download something and you're unsure, or maybe you just want to have that sort of knowledge that peace right in the back of your mind. I take my advice from friend of the show and former MacBrick weekly panelist Renee Richie who keyed me in, clued me into the method that he uses whenever it comes to his Macs. And I say Macs as in multiple Mac PCs. So I, because I have EERO routers and because I pay for the EERO subscription service that adds some extra features to the, to the routing environment. I have a subscription that comes with that to a program that I use and recommend called malwarebytes. And malwarebytes, which will include a link to in the show notes, is a malware removal and protection program. Malwarebytes is, has been around for a long time, definitely on the Mac has been known to be a tool that can be used to help you keep track of your machine or keep, you know, your machine safe and secure. And here is what Rene Richie had to say and the this is the sort of advice that I follow. There's one thing about malwarebytes which is that it is a resource hungry program. It runs in the background to kind of keep an eye on the system to go, okay, is anything being installed or downloaded that might be an issue and then warn you about it, tell you about it if that's the case. But because of that kind of slows things down. So what Renee says that he does is for most of the time he does not have malwarebytes installed on his machine. And about once a month, once every two months, maybe once when he feels like something might have been weird that he downloaded or installed or something's going kind of strange on the machine or he's just got that tickle in the back of his head like ooh, something's kind of odd here. He will download the, you know, his, his paid for license of, of malwarebytes and will run a scan on the machine, maybe keep it for a couple of days running, see that everything's fine and then uninstall it again. And I have taken that method for myself, the Rene Ricci method of using malwarebytes. I mean I, by having an EERO subscription, have it as a subscription that I can use. And so it was. It didn't cost me extra to do that. But I have found that it does give me a little bit of peace to know that that's running in the background. There are some other means of protecting your device but I have found a lot of them to be a little bit, a little bit involved and a little bit kind of, what's the word I'm looking for. They interrupt your sort of access to your machine listeners.