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Untitled Linux Show 221: Cooperative Socialist Paradise
01:10:28
Bluefin LTS, CUDA on Ubuntu, & Fedora Forge
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Jonathan
This week we're back talking about intel shedding more of their outside obligations, including more Linux things. There's Ubuntu and Cuda News. There's the Bluefin LTS, there's EBPF, there's BCashfs and its life outside of the kernel. And Mesa may start accepting AI written contributions. And there's more. You don't want to miss it, so stay tuned.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Rob Campbell
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Ryan Seacrest
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Jonathan
This is the Untitled Linux show, episode 221, recorded Saturday, September 20th. Cooperative Socialist paradise hey folks, it is Saturday once again, and once again it's time for us to come together and geek out about Linux and open source, some hardware and some software. It's time for the Untitled Linux Show. It's not just me, it is a group of us. And we are going to we're going to chat, we're going to talk. We're going to have some fun. We've got Ken and we've got Rob. We do not have Jeff back yet today, but hopefully we'll have him back in the slot for next week too.
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Ken
Yep, and are you all ready to start playing around with some command line tips, or do we want to cover news first?
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Jonathan
We'll do news first. I've been playing around with command line tips, though. Playing. Emphasis on playing, actually. So that'll be fun when we get to that. No, let's do some news first. Rob, you've got some intel stuff. Jeff's not here, so you're having to hold down the intel news.
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Rob Campbell
Yeah.
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Jonathan
What's good? What's up now?
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Rob Campbell
You know intel has long, long been One of the champions of Linux and open source, you know, when it comes to compared to the likes of Nvidia, kind of leaving them far behind. But are times changing? We shared with you all a couple months ago that intel was shutting down their blazing fast, clear Linux distribution. You know, I guess and we were all, I mean it was sad, but we're all kind of okay with, you know, it didn't make sense, I don't know. But they were still Linux contributors with their open source drivers. Last month, intel lays off lead to a number of open source intel drivers being orphaned. The maintainers were laid off and the future of the drivers still remains uncertain today. Here's a little backstory on another project. The x86 SIMD sort is a blazing fast AVX512 sorting library that intel published a couple of years ago and later is added to numpy and used by many notable projects. Well, this developer has also, he's been let go from intel, kind of leaving another open source intel project in limbo briefly because fortunately, at least, at least this is one of the projects that will, we'll be continuing on. It's become too important to numpy to let it just fade away. Noting In a recent NumPy ticket quote, maintainers of x86 SIMD sort no longer work for intel and we're uncertain of Intel's support of this library going forward. So you know, we kind of, we have two options. Transfer the repository to NumPy or fork and vendor the library under NUMPY namespace. Fortunately, intel, you know, they reached out, they talked to intel and intel agreed to Transfer the existing x86 SIMD sort repository from the intel organization to its now new home with NumPy. You know, but that's just one project and, but the fact that they're willing to just kind of let that go and hand it over so easily, I don't know what's happened at intel and you know, what, what's, what's driving their decisions to abandon open source as much as it seems like they are right now. I'm sure others can come along and fork many of these open source drivers, you know, but without the support of intel things are likely to eventually fall behind, I would think similar to kind of the struggles of the, the Novu Nvidia driver had to working, you know, against her without proper hardware vendor support. So, you know, it looks like intel is really shedding a lot of open source lately and it's not a good sign. I don't like how it looks yeah.
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Jonathan
Well, I mean, so it, it makes sense. It's what they're doing. They're saying, okay, let's, let's pare everything down to core business and everything else they're letting go and moving off. And you think about, like, this particular library, it's already done its job. Like, it's gotten essentially. What was it for? It was an excuse for people to want to buy AVX512 hardware. It served that purpose.
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Rob Campbell
Well, wouldn't drivers for their hardware be part of their core business?
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Jonathan
Drivers make. Yeah, drivers a little bit more. But we're talking specifically about the AVX512 sorting library. That's what I'm commenting on now.
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Rob Campbell
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about the whole scope of everything just being dropped.
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Ken
They're tightening the purse strings. That means they're cutting out as much as they can to include having to pay engineers to work on something that they're not actively pursuing anymore.
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Jonathan
Yeah, I mean, you got to think about it, like, if intel goes down as a business, all of these things are immediately no longer supported. Like, that's a, that is a possibility. Don't, don't kid yourself. That is a real possibility that if intel does not make changes that they will, you know, either crash and burn altogether get acquired by someone else that may not care about any of these projects at all. So, I mean, I understand business decisions.
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Rob Campbell
I know Intel's on. I know AMD is nipping on their heels and, and, and all that, but I, I don't, I don't think intel is really hurting yet. I mean, they're hurting, they're hurting compared to where they were before. But I think they still have a long way to go before they're, you know, out of business.
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Ken
How long before they have to go to just eating beans on toast?
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Rob Campbell
Many, many years.
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Jonathan
I mean, in, in 2024, intel had a net loss of 18 billion with a b. Dollars. Yes, they've got a lot of money.
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Ken
Think about eating beans on toast to help save some money.
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Jonathan
Yeah, they've got a lot of money, but that is a lot to lose. So, yeah, it's significant. They've got to make changes. All right, so somebody else is making changes is the Bluefin Distro, another immutable desktop. This one's a bit different, though. Ken, what's up with Bluefin?
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Ken
Well, I'm going to start off by saying that this week, Bobby Borisov wrote about the latest release from a project that aims to give you the best of both worlds. The reliability and ease of use of a Chromebook with the power of a GNOME desktop. It started as a derivative of Fedora Silver Blue, carrying over Silver Blue's immutable image based approach while adding its own tooling for things like flathub, Homebrew and zfs. Now this is the mainline Bluefin along with a GTS variant. Bluefin LTS however, shifted to a new foundation. You're going to like this Jonathan. They went to Cineos Stream 10 combined with extra packages for Enterprise Linux or Epel, giving you a purpose built CentOS based immutable desktop updated atomically. I'm not going to try saying that again with Bootsy and designed for users who want a slower, more predictable release cadence lasting three to five years. Now, in addition to being built on Cinnos Stream 10 and pulling interactive and extra packages from Epel, Bluefin LTS also shares the same source RPMs as Bluefin and Bluefin GTS. I hope you enjoy getting applications through Flathub, Homebrew or other containerized methods since local package layering is not supported. Bluefin LTS includes a backported gnome 48 along with secure boot support, ZFS integration and an updated installation experience via the new Anaconda web based Instar. And we've covered that one previously. I do recommend reading Bobby's article, especially since he also wrote about Bluefin GDX being released, which I didn't even touch on in this right now.
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Jonathan
Yeah, it's an interesting idea. Take the reliability that you get from essentially Red Hat, right? These are the packages that make up rhel. It's the slightly upstream of rhel. Take them and combine them with the reliability of an atomic desktop. Yeah, if you don't need the absolute newest kernel and things, sure it seems like it might be a pretty neat distro to run.
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Ken
What's the latest? Curtis with the Enterprise Linux Red Hat.
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Jonathan
Enterprise Linux now RHEL10. I'm not sure what kernel it's based on, but I bet you I can find out.
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Ken
It's probably, if anything, the latest LTS kernel.
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Jonathan
No, Red Hat does not track LTS. It's 6.12.0 is at least what the what the Google robot tells me. Yeah, it looks like 6.12 and I don't I'm pretty sure that was not an LTS kernel. We can find out. Oh oh hey, it did happen to line up. 6.12 is one of the LTS kernels historically. In the past though, Red Hat has not followed the LTS series. They've grabbed whichever one they wanted to grab because they did all of the backports themselves.
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Rob Campbell
Maybe that's another change they've made that has never been announced. We never got.
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Jonathan
I would love. It would delight me to hear that Red Hat is using the LTS kernels because that means that the work that they do can flow both ways. They can do some of the work of supporting things upstream for anybody else that wants to use lts. But that is essentially why we covered this back several months ago. The kernel guys basically said we're not going to do ltss for five or 10 years like we used to. You get it for two years. And that's it. It's because nobody was using them. Nobody was using the LTS kernels after.
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Ken
So many years anyways because they weren't supporting the hardware people were getting.
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Jonathan
Well, I mean, that's part of it. But no, it wasn't even that. So like these hardware vendors would come along and they'd say, oh, we need a kernel. Whether it was Red Hat or Rockchip or, you know, whoever, we need a kernel to base, to rebase everything off of. And rather than go and get an lts, they would just go get latest or they would get the one that they've already done work on. And so there was. It was completely disconnected from what the upstream kernel was doing. And why would you do the work if nobody's going to use it, if everybody's just going to ignore it?
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Rob Campbell
The LTS distro releases would maintain their own kernel for a period rather than utilizing the already maintained LTS kernel. And we talked about the problems of that.
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Jonathan
Yeah, I'm very curious now. If Red Hat has intentionally using the LTS kernel, I will have to do some look and see if I can find anything about that.
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Ken
But yes, Ken, remember coming across an article I thought it was may have been last week where it was talking about the trying to come up with a base Linux OS to use for space. I'm trying to remember now.
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Jonathan
Yeah, interesting. Well, if you find it, you can tag it on as one of your stories. But for now we're going to go and talk about bcachefs a little bit more because it's the project we can't get away from. We're addicted to covering it. We have to talk about it every week. That's because there's always some drama going on. And of course this week we're getting even more into the. What shall we call it? The post Linux period. We're moving into the Post Linux, the post upstream ARC of bcachefs it is now externally maintained, which as we predicted, just means it's going to be available as a DKMS package, the dynamic kernel module system. And so it is now officially available as DKMS for Ubuntu and Debian releases. Now this is official from the bcachefs team, not from Debian or Ubuntu. So it is not in there by default, but it is in there. If you go and install their APT repo, which is easy to do, it's apt bcachefs.org it's basically running one or two commands and you are good to go. I mean it's easy to do because there is bcachefs support in the kernel. For now, you can use that while installing and I've seen some chatter that they are going to work to find a way in the future to let people do bcachefs root installs during installation. Because you could put, as they said, you can put whatever kernel module you want to in. In your. Not fstab, that's not the term that I want. RAMFs. You can put any module you want to in your ramfs and therefore boot it if you want to. And then there is a second article here, Michael from Pharonix did a bit of benchmarking with the 6.17 kernel and he was looking at file systems and so I thought it would be interesting to look. Is bcachefs the fastest file system system? Is it even close? And drumroll drumroll no, no it's not. In some of these tests, like the SQL sort of tests, OpenZFS does very well and then just slower than OpenZFS you have ext4 and XFS. And then outside of SQL, which not terribly surprising, outside of SQL your two fastest file systems are XFS and ext4. With F2FS, the flash friendly file system having a really good showing in these as well. But yeah, there's something to be said for just using ext4. That is a decision that I generally have not regretted in the times that I've done it. Just, just use ext4. It just works. It's been battle proven and it's fast.
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Rob Campbell
Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna agree and disagree. I mean it really depends on use case. Ext 4 is very limited, but if you need, if you need snapshots, you just can't do that. Ext4 if you need to replicate, you can't do that. Xt4 you really have to look at what your use case is which for those cases, PTRFs and ZFS are great and I guess if you use it in SQL it sounds like ZFS is a good option. I'm really, I'm still surprised that obviously I knew for most cases at least ext 4 was faster, but I'm really surprised that like when it comes to SQL that, that the other file systems like ZFS come out faster. I wonder what it is that makes. Makes them faster. It's maybe the caching or something, I don't know.
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Jonathan
Well, I say it doesn't terribly surprise me because ZFS is now being maintained by the folks at Oracle and one of the big things that Oracle does is their database system. So it sort of.
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Ken
And you want to be as fast as possible in retrieving information out of a database.
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Jonathan
Indeed.
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Ken
And writing to it.
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Rob Campbell
Yep.
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Jonathan
Yeah, yep. So there you go.
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Ken
Just use the software thing I came across, by the way, Jonathan, was a article from a couple of weeks ago about Axiom Space and Red Hot Bringing data Cities to Low Earth Orbit.
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Jonathan
I remember looking at that. We talked about that in fact a week or two ago and I made the observation that I can't see the financials of it working. It may be eventually, but not anytime soon.
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Ken
But the one I'm thinking of that I saw, I thought I'd bookmarked it, but I haven't seen it in my bookmarks. Was actually talking about trying to set a base standard to use going forward for space based Linux systems.
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Jonathan
Yeah, that's interesting. We've sent some Linux to space. I think the ISS laptops, don't they all run Linux now because they couldn't keep viruses off of the Windows installs. I think that's legitimately what happened.
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Ken
ISS is all Linux. Got a robot on Mars, it's Linux.
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Jonathan
The helicopter on Mars was a Linux machine. Yes.
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Ken
Several of the probes I think are actually running Linux now.
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Jonathan
Oh, interesting. I didn't know that I could believe it. Yeah, some of the.
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Ken
At least the later ones.
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Jonathan
Yeah, I know SpaceX, all of their rockets are Linux based. Lots of C code in those too.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Rob Campbell
Ahead.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Jonathan
All right, well, you know, one of the things that they do to make all that stuff work is they do a lot of calculations on GPUs. Yeah.
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Rob Campbell
So here is a story I was going to say for Jeff, but since he isn't here, I feel like someone has to tell you about it. For him. The story pulls all the things together that Jeff loves in one tight package. We have Ubuntu, Nvidia, and Cuda. So if you've ever tried installing Cuda and Ubuntu, you probably know the drill. And if Jeff were here, he could likely confirm. But from what I have heard, it's a bit of a mess. The process starts by downloading a file from Nvidia's site, adding a GPG key pin a repository, then hunting for the right packages, and, you know, going through that whole fun ordeal. Well, that's about to change, at least for if you're using Ubuntu. Canonical. The folks behind Ubuntu just announced that Cuda is coming straight into the official Ubuntu repository, which means one command, that's it. No more juggling keys, repos, and downloads. Just installed the same way you'd install any other package. Now, why is this such a big deal? Cuda is short for compute. Unified Device Architecture is what lets Nvidia graphics cards do more than just graphics. It's pretty much why. It's pretty much why Jeff hasn't been able to leave Nvidia for AMD yet. It turns them into parallel computing engines for things like training AI models, crunching scientific data, powering robotics, and even speeding up video work. It's everywhere in modern computing, and having it backed directly into Ubuntu makes life a lot easier. Well, for people like Jeff, I don't have any Nvidia card, so whatever. And we all know when it comes to Jeff, the easier the better. This also plays into a bigger strategy. Canonical Nvidia are teaming up to make Ubuntu a go to platform for AI and enterprise workloads, but AMD isn't being left out. Although they aren't directly teaming up with Canonical, they are pushing their ROCM Compute stack, the CUDA like competitor, to be just as easy to deploy on Ubuntu and all the other Linuxes. So bottom line here, what used to be a multi step headache is about to become a one liner that saves time reducing friction. It makes Ubuntu an even stronger choice for anyone working in AI, data science or high performance computing.
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Jonathan
Interesting. Now that means that they are shipping closed source code as part of the Ubuntu repositories. I guess they're already doing that with the Nvidia drivers.
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Rob Campbell
Yeah, it's not the first thing.
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Jonathan
It's not the first coming from Fedora though. I'm still, I'm a little disappointed.
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Rob Campbell
Yeah, you Fedora is like what cloud closed source? What in the repo.
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Jonathan
Yeah.
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Ken
What kind of filter would you be running with cuda?
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Rob Campbell
One that makes my face look pretty.
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Jonathan
Oh, that kind of filter. I'm thinking like what are you doing? Firewalling your gpu?
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Ken
We're using a ebpf.
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Rob Campbell
Probably not.
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Jonathan
Probably not. Go for it. I had a super interest actually this past FLOSS weekly was with one of the guys working with EBPF and he introduced XDP2.
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Rob Campbell
XDP2, yep.
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Jonathan
Yeah, that's right. Rob, you were with me there, so yeah, that was fun. What do you have Ken in the EBPF world for this week?
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Ken
Well, this week I came across an article by Sourav Rudra where he wrote about the foundation responsible for guiding upstream development of the extended Berkeley packet filter, or as we like to say, ebpf, providing grants to universities and research institutes. These grants support projects that explore innovative ideas while advancing EPPF to the wider community. The EBPF foundation awarded $100,000 in research funding this year, split between two universities. Each institution received a $50,000 unrestricted research grant. The first grant was awarded to Ryan and I do apologize if I mispronounced this. Huang, who's the associate professor at the University of Michigan. His project, Verifier cooperative instrumentation develops ePass, a framework that reduces false rejections of safe EEBPF programs. The second grant went to Daniel Wong, Associate professor at the University of California, Riverside. His project EBPF Governors applies E EBPF to data center power management. Now if you want more information about the EPF foundation or the research projects, then just follow the link in our show notes to Saurav's article.
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Jonathan
Yeah, it's always interesting to see these kind of grants become available because people, they can get some actual funding for it. They can Put some full time work into it and really come up with some interesting things. I would, I would find it real fascinating for someone to get one of these grants and work with Tom Herbert, who's the guy we talked to working on XTP2. That is the extreme, let's see, extensive extensible data path. That's it. It's all about making network data very, very fast through things like EBPF and then even pushing code out to network accelerators. But it's all.
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Ken
If IMPEG borrows any of that.
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Jonathan
No, no, not yet. Although I could see someone using both at the same time. Like if you wanted to be able to very, very quickly process video and.
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Ken
Then stream it over the network, you.
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Jonathan
Could use XDP to funnel data into ffmpeg. So like something like that would be possible. Yeah, interesting stuff. It'll be fun to watch. Try to keep an eye on. We'll have to try to keep an eye on these grants and stuff, see what sorts of things are getting funded because. Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty interesting.
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Ken
Got a prompt for your JF for jet TPT for you to try.
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Rob Campbell
Help.
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Ken
Me build an application that will take EBPF to compress data to stream with FFMPEG over the my home network.
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Jonathan
I don't know if the first off, I don't know if there's enough. Enough corpus of EBPF code out there for chat GPT to really be able to do that. I also don't think you really need that on your home network. User land stuff is probably enough though.
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Ken
I'd want to keep it on my home network instead of opening myself up to the Internet.
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Jonathan
You would.
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Ken
At least while testing.
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Jonathan
Yep, yep.
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Rob Campbell
On a side note, a couple things I did try is I had it make me Pac man a fully JavaScript. It didn't do a good job on the map, but it worked. I just could have. I could have just lined up the. The. It didn't line up the walls great. But I could have fixed that manually and I had to do a Python version which, which, which worked pretty flawless. And I tried to. I'm like, well, let's get complicated. Make me pitfall. And that crashed.
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Jonathan
See, when you said Pac Man, I was thinking of the Ubuntu package manager. I was very confused.
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Ken
The game.
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Jonathan
Yeah, yeah, makes more sense.
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Rob Campbell
Ghost and the little.
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Jonathan
Yeah, I get it, I get it, I get it.
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Rob Campbell
Now the rest of you are confused.
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Ken
Pac Man's not the apt Pac man package manufacture for Ubuntu.
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Jonathan
What distro is it? Then what distro.
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Ken
I want to say arch.
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Rob Campbell
Yeah, it's arch.
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Jonathan
Yeah, that's probably right. Yep, it's arch. Okay. I don't run arch, so I get a pass on that one. Anyway, it's interesting you were talking about using AI to write code because that's something that a lot of projects are having to deal with. And one of them is sort of making a step in the direction of accepting more AI written code, and that's mesa. MESA now has guidelines for using AI generated code. And essentially it boils down to the. The human author must understand what the robot wrote, which is a good idea. It's best when you could do that, when you could say, yes, I understand everything that, that ChatGPT or Grok or whichever of the LLMs you use, I understand what it wrote. I am slowly coming around to the idea of letting the LLM write some of the boilerplate code and do some of the simple and boring reorganizations of code. Slowly coming around to this, very carefully coming around to being okay with this, mainly because I've got a developer that I work with that uses it effectively. And at the very end of this it says that MESA developers have clarified that they will continue their conversation about whether or not they ultimately want to allow AI contributions to mesa. But I think it's probably a step in the right direction to start thinking about what would it look like to accept these. Because we're actually starting to see if you use Copilot, you will see commit co authored by Copilot and it puts itself in there, which is good, like let people know that Copilot helped with it. But yeah, there is this question with mesa and that seems to be a really interesting sort of jumping off point to talk about some other things going along, going on in the graphical space. And there's some KDE stuff to talk about. First off, KDE 6.5 is finally in beta. And so if you want it, you can go grab 6.5 beta. There are some very interesting things that have landed in 65 beta. You know, you have, you have your normal interesting things like more rounded corners and more better theming, right? The eye candy stuff, clipboard work. You know, apparently now you can star Clipboard items which, hey, that could be super, super useful. Better global searching. But the ones that really caught my eye is we now have support in Wayland for Picture In Picture. A new Wayland protocol lands in KDE 65, the picture in Picture protocol. And so that you, you may have seen this. I've seen it on A like on a teams call or on a Google Google Meet call where you go to another tab and right now Chrome is pulling up another window and asking for permission. Well, with the PIP protocol, it's not going to be inside of another window. It's just like a floating video feed and that potentially very useful. And then the other one that for us gamers is really, really interesting. And that's the pointer Warp Wayland protocol finally landing in KDE 65. And if you game on Wayland and your mouse has ever gotten stuck so that your character is constantly turning to the right or to the left, it's probably because of this. And this will actually fix it and make some things work better. Of course we'll have to wait for WINE to fully land support for it and all of that. But on the way to getting that fixed, there is also a blog post from Mr. Nate Graham talking about some other things that are going on, like adding the Fortigate VPN as one of the supported vendors in the KDE VPN settings in Plasma 6.5. Also KRunner will do mathematical calculations so you don't have to Google as your calculator. You could just type it right into krunner. That's like hit alt F2 and you can get that. And it seems like there was one other thing in here that really intrigued me and of course I won't be able to find it now because we're on the show, but we've got the show notes in there. And then speaking of kde, there is one other sort of spicy story from KDE and that is that Jonathan Riddle is leaving KDE after 25 years. And this is essentially the result of the new Tech Paladin. So this is Nate Graham's new company, Tech Paladin. They're working with Valve, they're doing work on KDE as they were getting it started. Jonathan Riddle was one of the people that was originally involved in some of those discussions. And there is a blog post that you can go and read from Riddle that talks about, you know, how he had a difference in the direction that he was opening the new company would go. And apparently he, he, he voiced those disagreements and was not invited to the next call, which again, business stuff, that's how it happens sometimes. There was, let's see, let's see if I can find the exact quote, because it was, it was quite funny. Shouldn't this be run as a cooperative, we wondered. No, that was far too complex, he said. The next day he went to blah, blah, blah. They are a they are a cooperative socialist paradise. And Nate said he'd look into doing that instead of the setup where he had full control. But it was clear that there was to be no other discussion. So Jonathan Riddle said, let's make it a socialist paradise. And Nate said, no, we're not going to do that. I probably more humored by that than I should be, but that is what happened. Yeah, fun stuff going on around the MESA and KDE world.
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Ken
Trying to think are any businesses that are socialist paradise currently?
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Jonathan
Somehow that whole socialism thing has not worked out too well for business. It's just it doesn't go very well together.
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Ken
The closest I can come to is, and I'm trying to think of the proper name when it's a grocery store chain.
- [36:31]
Jonathan
Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea.
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Rob Campbell
But thank goodness for the safer rounded corners in kde. I was getting super tired at my mouse pointer getting torn up. That's a quote by Wizardling in the Discord. Thank you.
- [36:45]
Jonathan
Yeah, yep, it's. That's something.
- [36:50]
Ken
But I do hope that that Jonathan Riddle does at least enjoy riding the surfing the endless waves as he relaxes from all of this.
- [37:05]
Jonathan
Yeah, I mean, honestly, take, take some time off, man. Rest up for a bit. If you want to come back and start writing code again, I'm sure we would take it as a community. And if not, thanks for all the fish. Right?
- [37:24]
Ken
There you go. Douglas Adams has got it. Just say so long and thanks for all the fish.
- [37:30]
Jonathan
It's the ultimate farewell. All right, Rob, you're going to kind of tack onto this and talk some more about Wayland. What else? Somebody else is going Wayland.
- [37:39]
Rob Campbell
Yes. So I always like to remind our listeners how the Linux distros are working to ditch X11 and replacing it with Wayland. Well, it isn't just Linux anymore that is going all in on Wayland. And no, it isn't Windows or Mac either.
- [37:57]
Ken
But wouldn't that be cool?
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Rob Campbell
It's actually Redux os, the Rust based open source operating system that's been in development for several years. Unlike Linux, which is written mostly in C, Redux is built in Rust. The project takes inspiration from Unix, but its goal is to create a modern OS that's more secure, memory safe and easier to maintain. The Redux team just published their roadmap for for the rest of 2025 and into 2026 and Wayland. As Jonathan mentioned, Wayland plays a big role in their desktop ambitions. They're planning multiple flavors of Redux hosted Redux running inside virtual machines. Redux Server for edge and cloud deployments and Redux Desktop as a truly or a true daily driver operating system. Alongside that, they're focusing on some big technical milestones, like being able to build Redux on Redux itself. Makes me curious what they're building it on today, if it's Linux. But improving software compatibility, supporting more programming language and build systems, and tightening up both performance and security. On the desktop front, there's a lot happening too, beyond Wayland. They're expanding GPU acceleration, hardware support, and they're working with the Cosmic Desktop environment, the same one the system 76 is developing for Popos and other Linux distros. So while Linux still gets most of the attention in the open source OS world and on the show, because we're the untitled Lake Show, Redux is quietly pushing forward modern Rust base and trying to prove it could be more than just a side project. You know, and it's been asked out there before, you know, if another OS will come along and replace Linux. You know, is it Fuchsia or, or something else? And honestly, you know, obviously nobody, nobody really knows, but I'm starting to think that Redux may one day be a real contender. They're not there yet, but seems like they have a lot of plans to be something really special.
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Jonathan
Yeah, it's a really interesting project. It almost seems to me that in the short term at least, their biggest potential market is for running virtual machines because there's so many. Okay, so one of the hardest things to do for Linux, it has been for years and years, years is what? Hardware support. Trying to get support for all of those weird pieces of hardware that people have because there's, you know, billions and billions of potential combinations of hardware. And so if you can just cut that out and say, well, let's just focus on the core we're going to use. Here's our virtual machine. That's pretty standardized. We want to run really well on this virtual machine then. Yeah, I think that's probably the place that makes the most sense to sort of focus. And that's what they're doing with the Redux. What do they call it? You said it just a second ago. What are they?
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Rob Campbell
Hosted servers? I think it was. Yeah.
- [41:15]
Jonathan
Hosted Redux. Hosted Redux as a, as a virtual machine. Yeah, that one's pretty interesting.
- [41:21]
Rob Campbell
Yeah, maybe this, maybe my web servers one day will be running on Redux.
- [41:25]
Jonathan
Maybe. I also find it fascinating. They like Cosmic. That seems like a good match, right?
- [41:31]
Rob Campbell
Ross based.
- [41:32]
Jonathan
Right.
- [41:32]
Ken
Just need to get some Rust based.
- [41:35]
Jonathan
Drivers for Wieland I mean, they're working on it. If you're running macOS, you're. Excuse me, if you're running on. On one of the M Max, then yeah, your. Your MESA drivers have some rust in there. So if you really want to, you can go do it.
- [41:51]
Rob Campbell
They plan to make Wayland work on it somehow.
- [41:54]
Jonathan
So I think that. I think the Linux supply support on those M Max is only Wayland, isn't it? I don't think they run x11.
- [42:02]
Rob Campbell
Yeah, I think that's true.
- [42:04]
Ken
Why would you try to port X11 to M1 Mac?
- [42:09]
Jonathan
That was the question that the people doing it asked themselves and they couldn't come up with a good enough answer to do the work.
- [42:15]
Rob Campbell
Why try to pull a really old going away technology into something you're just starting up and trying to build on?
- [42:23]
Ken
Maybe because it did a recent upgrade. Maybe I think of a audio loop machine that did a recent upgrade.
- [42:34]
Jonathan
You know, I think you're trying too hard.
- [42:36]
Rob Campbell
Yeah. But before we go there, that reminds me. I did put a bid on an M1 Mac. I wonder if I lost that. I don't remember when that was ending.
- [42:46]
Jonathan
Surprise. You open the door tomorrow?
- [42:48]
Rob Campbell
Surprise. Maybe. I have to check my email now and.
- [42:51]
Jonathan
Yeah.
- [42:52]
Ken
How much did you bid on it?
- [42:56]
Rob Campbell
Well, the last bid I had was $210, I think and.
- [43:05]
Ken
Okay, then I'm gonna go 211.
- [43:07]
Rob Campbell
Yeah. Well, that is why I did not tell you what my max bid was. Not until I know if it's over yet. My Max bid, I placed higher than that.
- [43:18]
Jonathan
Yeah. Yeah.
- [43:18]
Ken
And you only give. Give them the money if you get. Win the bid.
- [43:22]
Jonathan
Y.
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Rob Campbell
All right, try again with your. Your segue.
- [43:25]
Jonathan
Well, so I was, I was going to take it this time. If he does buy an M1 Mac, is there some audio production software that he can run? Maybe do some live looping on it?
- [43:36]
Ken
Maybe even some streaming?
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- [44:38]
Ken
But be going to talk about this time Some information from an article that Marius Nestor wrote this week about the latest release of the hardcore loop machine and music production software designed for DJs, live performers and a lot electronic musicians called and I had to listen to one of the tutorials to make sure I was saying this right. Jarta Now According to Marius, Jarta 1.3.0 Jackalope is a small update, but an important one as it introduces support for multiple audio output configurations. Now by multiple I do mean more than stereo now along with the improvements to the Jack Audio Connection Kit support to enable multiple output connection support. On top of that it provides some internal code, refactoring and cleanup updates. The fastlight toolkit that think I'd mentioned either in one of the pre or post shows recently dependencies to fastlight toolkit's version 1.4.4 and improves and beautifies the plugin browser window for a better, more stable, faster and smoother experience. Marius article also includes links to the project's official website and flathub page. Now Marius also wrote about the G Streamer project releasing the strict excuse me, sixth maintenance update to this popular and powerful open source, free and cross platform multimedia framework DRE streamer 1.26.6. It introduces support for Windows Media Video 9 or WMV3 and Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile or WVC1, both codecs and the supports going into the video for Linux API version 2, what we commonly call V4L2 and updates the Libri spot library to version 0.7 for compatibility with recent Spotify changes. It also improves the Vulkan video decoder and fixes a bug causing stability stability issues with the closed caption combiner and Transcriber bin. The GStreamer Rust plugins also also saw various improvements and bug fixes. For more details check out Marius article which includes a link to the release notes which I followed to actually find the tutorial that showed me how to.
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Jonathan
Say Giarda yeah, I'm real curious about Giada. I need to check it out. I've had people ask me and I've even gone looking myself for something to do sort of loop based music. You could do a little bit of it in ardour now they've added some support for this. It's still a little Clunky. It's getting better and better. But I've not tried Giada and I.
- [48:04]
Ken
Have to downloaded it from Flathub and.
- [48:07]
Rob Campbell
Played with a little bit of good songs. Anything you want to share?
- [48:13]
Ken
I didn't do enough playing with it for that. Just start it up, see if I could set up an audio sample and basically following the first tutorial.
- [48:26]
Jonathan
Yeah, there's a. And of course I'm not immediately finding the name of it, but there's another program that is looping from the command.
- [48:37]
Rob Campbell
Line.
- [48:39]
Jonathan
And I can't think of it. Oh, well, it's cool. It looks really cool. Hopefully we'll have them on Floss Weekly at some point, but it's that same sort of thing.
- [48:48]
Ken
Command line or Jarta?
- [48:52]
Jonathan
No, it's. It's. Well, I wouldn't mind having the Jarda guys either, but. No, what I'm thinking of, it's. It's literally a. It's like an NPM project. I think you're editing a text file and you're creating a song based off of a text file. The name. I can't remember the name of it. Oh well, it'll come to me later. Getting old.
- [49:18]
Ken
We'll mention it in post show.
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Jonathan
Yeah, there you go. I'll find it about the time the show stops. Let's talk Fedora for a little bit. There's some things going on in the Fedora world that is. That is pretty interesting. Fedora 43 beta is. Is out actually and if you want to grab it, the images are available, the ISOs are out. If you want to check out the Fedora 43 beta and it's got some interesting things in it. The Anaconda Web UI is there. It's going to DNF5 by default. You have the normal tool chain updates, the latest version of Python, pulling out some of the old things that are in there, just all around doing the updates. That's what Fedora 43 is all about. We have a review over on Pharonix with some benchmarking and surprisingly actually everything is for the most part is either right at the Same or the Fedora 42 release is a little bit quicker for a lot of these benchmarks, which is a little surprising. But oftentimes just means that, you know, there was some security thing found that when they fixed it it caused a bit of a slowdown. There are some things where it is a little faster on Fedora 43 in the beta than it is on the others, so probably a wash all around as far as performance goes. But there is something else going on in Fedora land that I found really interesting and that is Fedora Forge. It is the new home for Fedora project sub projects and special interest groups and essentially they are hosting their own sort of Git repositories using. I don't. It's a. It's a GitLab alternative. Essentially. It looks a lot like GitLab when you actually click through to it. Powered by Forge Forge Forge Joe Forgeo. I don't know F, O, R, G, E, J O. I have no idea how that's supposed to be pronounced, but it's a lightweight software Forge. So yes, it's going to be a GitHub GitLab alternative and this is what Fedora is now moving to for all of their stuff in the future and it is a slow process. They are not forcing anyone over there yet. But interesting to see that they are thinking about what's coming next as far as self hosting all their infrastructure. So if you're a Fedora person, Fedora is your jam. You might want to go check out Fedora Forge. Rob, have you run Fedora as your main?
- [52:12]
Rob Campbell
Before I. Fedora was my main. I don't know, was it shortly after I joined the show or for, I don't know, six months to a year.
- [52:22]
Jonathan
It was just too boring. Everything worked. So he moved on.
- [52:26]
Rob Campbell
Yeah, then I went to Arch. I needed some excitement.
- [52:28]
Jonathan
You need something to brag about.
- [52:34]
Ken
Think I got Red Hat 4 with this book.
- [52:40]
Jonathan
Red Hat Linux 4, eh?
- [52:42]
Ken
Yep.
- [52:44]
Jonathan
Yeah, it was before we put. It was before they started putting the enterprise term in there. It was back when it was just Red Hat Linux back before Fedora. Yeah, wasn't it? Indeed. Yeah.
- [52:54]
Rob Campbell
I bought a box version of Red Hat one time too. A long time ago. No clue what version it was.
- [53:01]
Jonathan
Yeah, my Linux journey started at about the same time that Fedora did. My first install was one of the really early Fedora versions. All right, Rob, you want to talk about Semaphore?
- [53:14]
Rob Campbell
Yes. We're getting onto the command line tips command line. It's time. All right, so let me bounce over. So last week. Last week I talked about Ansible and I said it was going to follow up this week with a nice easier web GUI that can help you manage it. So for those watching, it'll be easier for you to follow along. I see that's in the way. Should I maybe. Maybe I should adjust that over. Yeah, that'll do. All right. So you know, actually make. Let me make one more adjustment here because I realized all right, we'll go with that one right there. I think it's all, all visible.
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Jonathan
That'll work.
- [54:03]
Rob Campbell
Okay, so Semaphore is a web GUI to manage Ansible. So with that, you have a spot for your task templates. And I'll come back to that. You have a spot for your inventory. If you remember last week when we were in Ansible, there was an inventory file. And you know, here's the same format. It's same format as the inventory file, but it's in the web gui. You have your playbooks, but those are not stored locally, I guess. I think you can. But those are in the repository, which I am using a GitHub repo, which it's fine if anyone sees where that repo is. There's no private data in there. You can use those playbooks if you want, because all the private stuff is done with variables, which is right here in this variable group. So I have my Proxmox variables, which the, the. There's a secret. There's a secret tab where you can have hidden stuff, passwords, there's other variables, tabs. So you can variableize everything that you want in your Playbooks. You can do key store for, for SSH keys and other things like that. And you can even run your template on a schedule. So once you have all those Ansible things in here, I have my. So far, I just had this one updating my Proxmox VMs on C Sunday. And then there is the, the template or the actual task section. So when you're looking at that, you, you can go in here. You can. If I wanted to actually edit it, this is what it looks like when I set it up. I, I gave it a version, I gave it a name. This is a playbook from this repo, the GitHub repo that I'm running. It's using this inventory of the proxmox servers and it's using the variables. They label proxmox variables. And there's a lot of other things you could turn on and off, but those are the key things you need. So once you do that, you can run it on a schedule, like I said. Or if you want to run that ad hoc, anytime you guys hit that go button, various things show up based on how I created the task and you hit build and that's going to be the output. The same thing you see on Ansible. And right now it's taking snapshots of, or not snapshots. It's taken backups of my Proxmox VMs, which takes a little time so we don't have to wait for that to finish, but it's going to flow through it. Take snapshots, do updates, reboot them if needed, which it has never had needed to reboot yet but oh, and I also want to give a call out to to learn Linux tv. I know he used to be a listener watcher of the show. I haven't heard from him in a long time so I'm not sure if he still does, but I watched his video to help me set this up. I used a different OS so I had to kind of convert some things over, but it was actually very helpful in setting up Semaphore so that I believe is in the show Notes. Show notes or it will be so you can go to that link if you want to set up Semaphore for Very cool.
- [57:24]
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Jonathan
All right, Ken, you've got. You've got something I think more wire plumber stuff, right?
- [58:30]
Ken
Yes, I do. Have you ever wanted to be able to change the profile that your audio device is using?
- [58:38]
Jonathan
Yeah, actually.
- [58:40]
Ken
Well, this week we are playing around with setting your audio profile with WPCTL using its set dash profile command. Let me go ahead and switch to my terminal here. What I've got up is a terminal with the status output from WP CTL status. And for those of y' all listening, I've also got my system settings displaying my sound settings so I can show you in real time what happens. Now the basic command is going to be WCTL and I'm going to go over the command itself first by using find that dash H and you use the command is sit Profile followed by the ID for the object or device and then the index for the profile. The index starts at zero, which is actually what you'd put if you wanted to turn that device's profile off. Now depending on your system, your device may only have one profile. So it would be. Or so it would be 0 and 1. But I found out with this one. For those of you all listening, my status is showing that I've got three audio devices, an AC97 audio controller, ICH6 high definition audio controller, and then the ICH9 built in audio. The AC97 is device 42. So what I'm going to do here is go to 42 and set that to zero. Find that zero there. There we go. And you'll see that on the system settings it shows that the AC97 is showing as an inactive cardinal. I can do the same for the ich6 by putting in device 43 followed by a zero and then for the built in audio which is device 44 again followed by a zero. So I've got all three of the cards off. Thank goodly goodness that's in a vm, otherwise you wouldn't. I wouldn't be able to hear y' all or y' all wouldn't be able to hear me or Rob might say that's a good thing. So let's go back to 42, the ACH97 and we'll go back to profile one, which this system settings is showing is analog stereo duplex. So I've got a playback device, analog out and a recording device microphone. Now in the VM I'm running, it's also got a, another profile which is 2, which is just analog output and then there's 3 which is analog stereo input, basically the microphone. Now Jonathan, do you think there's a fourth profile?
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Jonathan
I don't know. Is there?
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Ken
Well, let's find out. That's why I said we're going to be playing today. There is, it's Pro Audio. And in this for the AC97 it's showing that it's got the Pro Audio. And if I go into the system settings and hit show channels, it's stereo auxiliary zero and one. And then it's also got two Pro Audio recording devices.
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Jonathan
The, the Pro Audio setting basically means don't try to figure out what these are, just give me the raw inputs. Inputs and outputs.
- [62:57]
Ken
Yep.
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Jonathan
So it's, it's super useful if you have like a card that's got. Well, I've got one over here that's got like eight inputs and Eight outputs. It'll. It'll do something really weird like try to give you a 7.51 system. And it's like, no, no, no, this is not a surround sound system. These are just eight channels that I want to be able to deal with.
- [63:16]
Ken
So this sounds like a card that you're going to play with this command with for a bit.
- [63:21]
Jonathan
I usually go through just the. The KDE settings. You can get to it in there and change it. But it is useful to know that there are other ways to do it.
- [63:28]
Ken
Especially if you wanted to script something.
- [63:30]
Jonathan
Especially if you wanted to script it. Absolutely.
- [63:32]
Ken
And let's go ahead and turn that card off and let's see what we got for our ICH6 family. So it's got a analog stereo duplex, light out and line in. And two is analog stereo output, just like with the AC9. Three line in, similar to the AC9. And then we've got the Pro Audio. This one's only showing the one recording device. And let me go ahead and.
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Rob Campbell
Run.
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Ken
The status command here. And we see that it's showing Pro Audio 2 filter. That's not showing any sinks or sources since we haven't selected anything yet.
- [64:41]
Jonathan
Interesting.
- [64:44]
Ken
But now let's go ahead and turn this one off.
- [64:49]
Jonathan
That's not going to work.
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Ken
There's that zero button taking my hands off the keyboard and I lost my spot. So we've got that off. Now let's look at the built in audio. And how many profiles do you think it has?
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Jonathan
I would assume the same, but we'll.
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Ken
See in this though. I'll be honest, when I was playing around this on my Ubuntu system, I was noticing the hardware I've got in here. It seems like they only show one profile that I could change from the command line. I had to go in and to the system settings and turn on the Pro Audio for it to show those profiles in the. At the terminal. Don't know why. And we've got the line out again, line in line. And then Pro Audio where you've got the Pro Audio out then. And of course two channels.
- [65:59]
Jonathan
Yeah. Kind of makes me think that Wire Plumber must have like a template system where every new sound card, if it's. If it, if it fits, it'll give you those. Those four presets.
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Ken
Well, in this case I actually added these after the fact by changing the adding each of these in because the ich9 was the default that it had set up with.
- [66:31]
Jonathan
All right, very cool. I've got something that I spent some time Playing around with it. I told you that I was doing some playing and that is terminus. Now I do have to admit this is running in the browser and I did a little bit of looking to see if it would work actually in the command line and I did not find a way to run it in the command line or with ssh, which I was a little disappointed by. But it is pretty cool because it lets you practice your command line tools in the form of a text based adventure. And so you use commands like LS to look at the scene, you use less to look at items. So you can get, for instance, in this case it's the welcome letter that you can read, use CD to move between locations and so you change directories to go to the new place you run LS again, you can interact with things again with less and as you get. And it's got quite the sense of humor too. So in this case we tried to ride the pony. It was great. The pony got tired of us and bucked us off and now the pony has run away and you can see the wonderful picture of the pony there in all of its glory. It's got this sort of sense of humor all throughout the game, which is fun, but you learn more and more commands as you go along. For example, I was as far as I got into it, I also got the MV command to move items around and then the GREP command to look for things inside of items. And it's just, it's a really clever. It's a really clever approach to learning the command line tools. I like it. I found several of these and this was the first one that I thought was interesting enough to talk about here. So terminus. And we got a link to it in the show notes. You can click through and play the game on your. Your own if you want to.
- [68:35]
Ken
Yeah. Spend hours playing it.
- [68:38]
Jonathan
You can get. You can get lost and spend hours.
- [68:40]
Rob Campbell
Or recommend it to anyone else who wants to learn Linux command line through a game.
- [68:46]
Jonathan
Yep, I will make sure next week. I've got several of these next week. I'll make sure and grab one that you can play with SSH for a true command line interface experience. All right, well, that is it. That is the end of the show. It seems like it flies by when there's only three of us here. That probably says something about our missing member. But.
- [69:07]
Ken
Anyway, we're picking really short articles to talk about.
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Jonathan
I don't know, I picked a bunch of them. I'm gonna let each of the guys get the last word in if they Want to. We're let Rob go first because he is on the left. Rob, you. Do you have anything to plug?
- [69:22]
Rob Campbell
I have a lot today. So first I'm going to go back to my command line tip for anyone who wanted to see the output. Here it is. That's the output. Those are all internal private IPs, so not like there's anything you can glean from that. Unless you get into my network and then I'm in rush.
- [69:39]
Jonathan
You're hosed. Anyway.
- [69:40]
Rob Campbell
Yes. After that the next thing I want to do is, you know, Ken thought he could squeeze an extra command line tip last week, so I'm squeezing an entire story this week. Week. I'm gonna keep it short. But systemd 258 is out this week and the biggest new feature is systemd factory reset to request a factory reset on the next reboot. And UEFI firmware images can now be enabled in a UKI and many other new features. But that scene in my story, I kept it real short, unlike Ken's extra command line tip. So otherwise back to my normal, regularly scheduled weekly closing. You can come get more of me at robert p.campbell.com Once you get to that website, you can find. You can connect with me with links to. You can find there links to my LinkedIn, my Twitter, my Blue Sky Mastodon, and a place to donate coffee to me, it looks like I'm still the winner of that. That Mac M1 Mac that I talked about earlier. So I'm gonna need some copies to help pay for that, it looks like, because that finishes up tomorrow.
- [71:01]
Ken
Did you bid more than you have?
- [71:04]
Rob Campbell
I have not changed my bid yet. I am still the only better with one day left. So we'll see what the last day brings. Also, Jeff, who's not here maybe, but if you want to bring him back, donate a couple coffees to him on my page. Just stay there for him. And I'm gonna be keeping them because he owes me two anyway.
- [71:28]
Jonathan
Even if they're for him, they're really for you.
- [71:30]
Ken
Don't donate to Rob. Donate to the club.
- [71:35]
Rob Campbell
He won't owe me anymore that way. So you will be lifting a weight off of his shoulders. They've just been dragging him down so much that he. That's why he hasn't felt great and hasn't been able to be here this week because it just drags him so down. Oh, and me.
- [71:49]
Jonathan
Yeah, that's it, I'm sure. All right, Ken, anything to plug?
- [71:54]
Ken
Yes. For those of us who also like to hack together, mills as well as scripts. I do want to recommend checking out the latest PC Linux OS Magazine's special edition. It's volume two of their recipes.
- [72:15]
Jonathan
Interesting. Very cool.
- [72:17]
Ken
Might want to check out some of the other special editions they've got on that link.
- [72:21]
Jonathan
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Jonathan
I think you'll like it.
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Rob Campbell
You in the club. Sam.