Windows Weekly 976: Full Thurrottle

Date: March 25, 2026
Host: Leo Laporte
Co-Hosts: Paul Thurrott (thurrott.com), Richard Campbell (RunAsRadio, .NET Rocks)

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the future of Windows under Microsoft's new leadership, evaluating the latest plans to improve Windows’ quality, performance, and user experience. The discussion ranges from technical nitty-gritty on File Explorer and update chaos to Microsoft's strategy amidst surging AI trends and hardware shifts. Notable industry news, AI advancements, gaming hardware updates, and some classic Windows gripes punctuate a relaxed, humorous, but incisive episode.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Microsoft’s “Plan to Save Windows”

[02:32-41:21]

• Context: Pavan Davaluri, the new head of Windows, recently outlined a vision to address Windows’ long-standing issues with bundled bloat, performance bottlenecks, and user frustration.
• Background: Since Satya Nadella's 2015 claim to “make people love Windows,” critics observed a disconnect (“They’ve done everything they can since then to make people not love Windows.” - Paul, 02:37).
• Problems Identified:
  • Bundled OEM bloatware and “crapware” escalating each version
  • Forced telemetry and privacy erosion
  • Heavy-handed feature additions and weak separation between security/feature updates
  • Annoying default behaviors (forced MS account, forced Edge usage)
  • Windows Update chaos; unpredictable “controlled feature releases” (CFRs)
  • Neglected backend engineering (“No fundamental, foundational or architectural advances.” - Paul, 13:19)
• Recent Positive Changes:
  • Early evidence of quality focus: OneDrive improvements, security features, genuine core engineering effort (e.g., Rust in the kernel)
  • Explicitly addressing pain points as a key 2026 focus
  • More transparency, ability to skip updates, performance improvements underway
• Historical Context:
  • Windows’ leadership vacuum post-Myerson’s 2018 departure, leading to “too many teams, too many priorities, no vision.” (Richard, 08:54)
  • Parallels drawn to Longhorn’s overambition and lack of core focus
  • Political shift: Windows pushed out of the Microsoft spotlight in favor of Azure and AI
• Real Change Indicators:
  • Architecture touchpoints: File Explorer, WinUI3 challenges (huge performance regressions from modernization efforts)
  • Start Menu and widgets: embrace of web tech (React Native), new latency issues
  • “Recommendations” and other opt-out/opt-in annoyances could finally shift toward user choice

Memorable Quotes:

“Windows 11 as originally conceived was just lipstick on a pig.” - Paul (13:19)
“They’re going to let you move the taskbar around. This is one of the biggest complaints about Windows 11!” – Paul (14:58)
“Don’t give them a way to say no—and I mean no forever. Stop!” – Paul (35:37)

2. Copilot, AI, & User Choice

[31:10-34:08]

• Clarification: Despite headlines, Microsoft is not removing Copilot—just reducing intrusive branding/icons in apps.
• Key Point: AI features will remain, but user control is (slowly) improving. App-specific opt-outs vary.
• Dialogue:
  • Leo: “Just don’t force it down my throat.” (32:19)
  • Paul: “No one wants a system that’s constantly asking if you want to use a feature.” (33:28)

3. Windows Update & Insider Chaos

[19:30, 45:54-48:52]

• Ongoing confusion and unpredictability around Windows updates and feature rollouts.
• Patch Tuesday emergency fixes are increasing, with non-trivial bugs (March: prevented MS account logins).
• Insider channels inconsistently reflect the “right” builds, features lag even on latest hardware, new reorgs may streamline.

4. Industry & AI News

[59:52-72:44]

• AI & ML:
  • Microsoft’s “Mai Image 2” released (aimed at photorealistic imagery)
  • OpenAI Sora video generator shelved; focus shifting to enterprise, resource constraints (e.g., upcoming helium shortages impacting chip production)
  • ARM announces direct chip production for data centers (first customer: Meta; focus not on consumer devices)
• Broader Hardware Trends: ARM’s move marks a seismic shift from IP licensor to direct hardware producer, challenging existing players.
• AI Market Context: Competition heats up, Nvidia declares “AGI is here.” (“We pretty much achieved it.” – Jensen Huang, paraphrased by Paul, 84:25).

5. Apple & Google AI, Metaverse, and Gaming

[74:36-113:54]

• Apple’s delayed but imminent “AI Siri” reboot, with Gemini integration, expected at WWDC 2026.
• Meta pivots away from the “goggles” metaverse; Neil Stephenson’s perspective: “People don’t like wearing things on their faces… But hundreds of millions use the no-goggle metaverse like Roblox (380M MAU), 60M Fortnite MAU.”
• Xbox Project Helix:
  • Next-gen console based on PC, wide open for development, blurring PC-console lines (“Bringing all the Xbox games, old and new, to PC would be amazing.” – Paul, 92:45)
  • Major March console update brings dashboard features, dynamic backgrounds, expanded Xbox Play Anywhere, better cloud game streaming

6. Nintendo Switch 2 News

[99:27-102:38]

• Record Sales: Fastest-selling console ever (19–20 million since launch)
• Trouble Looming: Early signs of production cuts tied to supply chain problems and rising RAM/component costs—future sales may struggle to match Switch 1’s volume.
• Digital vs. Physical: Nintendo will begin pricing digital games lower than physical, starting with “Yoshi and the Mysterious Book.”

7. Community & Personal Updates

[01:15, 41:55, 126:00]

• Richard: RunAsRadio to hit 2,000 episodes; whisky pick: Redemption High Rye Bourbon (deep-dive into whiskey brand provenance)
• Paul: All premium members of Thurrott.com now get his books free
• Anecdotes: Living abroad, adjusting to local quirks (“Spanish is harder than C++”)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Insertification checklist” for Windows—Paul’s running tally of software annoyances
• “What’s the good thing about getting old? Shut up.” – Paul (57:42)
• “It’s better, but… some of the big problems are still not talked about. Forced telemetry, Edge, bundled crapware, Microsoft account sign-in…” – Paul (40:44)
• “You sound great when you’re upright.” – Kevin King (the origin of today's possible show title, 54:23)
• “We’re all made of meat.” – Leo (96:38)
• “How many people on my own team can kill me in one (Call of Duty) match? Let’s find out.” – Paul (104:43)

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 02:32 | Microsoft’s “Plan to Save Windows” begins | | 14:57 | User feedback—taskbar and File Explorer | | 19:22-27:56 | Update chaos, opt-in vs opt-out philosophy | | 31:10 | Copilot and AI features discussion | | 45:54 | Windows Insider program and update fragmentation | | 50:19 | TypeScript 6.0, Visual Studio Code updates | | 59:52 | Major AI news (Mai Image 2, Sora, ARM chips) | | 74:36 | WWDC & Apple AI rumors | | 88:32 | Xbox: Project Helix, Next-gen console, cloud gaming | | 99:27 | Nintendo Switch 2 sales, production news | | 118:41 | Back of book: Paul’s tip (free books), browser news | | 128:17 | Whiskey segment: Redemption High Rye Bourbon | | 141:06 | Show wrap-up |

Summary Table: Major Windows “Quality” Goals (per Davaluri’s Plan)

| Fix/Feature | Status/Commentary (as of this episode) | |-------------|----------------------------------------| | Move Taskbar | Confirmed; feedback-driven | | File Explorer performance | Promised; technical debt from WinUI3 | | Start Menu latency/reactivity | Working on it; JS/React Native roots | | Widgets/feed quality | Still “garbage” (Paul, 19:22) | | Pause Updates flexibility | Promised, unclear limits | | Split security/feature updates | Not yet implemented, Paul wants explicit separation | | Better opt-in defaults | Recall is first; needs more adoption | | Reduce bundled crapware/ads | Not directly addressed yet | | Forced telemetry, MS account, Edge | Not discussed, still annoyances |

Tone & Style

• Insightful and playful; combines deep technical critique, industry analysis, and trademark self-deprecating humor.
• Directly channels both longtime Windows "pain" and cautious optimism.
• Highlights both granular, hands-on usability issues (File Explorer, Start Menu) and broad strategic industry shifts (AI, ARM, cross-platform gaming).

Closing Thoughts

The panel welcomes the early indications of a real, engineering-driven turnaround at Microsoft, but remains skeptical until deeper, longstanding “insertification” issues are addressed. Amidst the ongoing AI upheaval, gaming hardware evolution, and broader chip industry flux, one thing is clear: Windows is changing, but the path from “lipstick on a pig” to a platform users truly love is long and winding.

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