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section, I was like, mad that I had to do that after, like, going through labor for so many hours. I used to look at my scar. I'd look in the mirror and like, u my body betrayed me.

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I've done this four times, and every time I'm like, I'm gonna really eat healthy and try to do this. Get broccoli. Literally. That's the only time I threw up. Like, my body rejected it.

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I'm like, the baby's like, you do need that baby. Welcome back to Always Here. We're your hosts, Abbey Howard and Abby Howard. How are you feeling?

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So much better. We had. We got hit with a nasty stomach bug. I'm assuming it was norovirus, just with how it was in and out and so punchy.

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Summary

Always Here – Episode Summary

Episode: "Pregnancy, C-Section Guilt & Morning Sickness"

Podcast: Always Here
Hosts: Abby Howard & Abby Howard (Daylight Media)
Date: March 27, 2026

Overview

This heartfelt and humor-filled episode centers on real pregnancy experiences: from announcing a new pregnancy and the emotional process after a previous loss, to managing morning sickness, handling C-section guilt, and answering listener questions about VBACs and motherhood anxieties. Abby and Abby candidly discuss the ups and downs of growing families, navigating difficult emotions, and offer solidarity to listeners with authentic, vulnerable conversation and the lively energy unique to close sisters-in-law.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family Illness, Immune Systems & Mom Life Chaos

The episode kicks off with stories of a recent stomach bug that swept through the family. Both hosts describe how illness impacts their routines and parental anxieties, especially after returning to activities post-lockdown.
Abby B mentions a listener voicemail about increased anxiety over sickness with each child:

"I think because my capacity was so maxed out these last six months…if my kids got sick, it would just tip me over." (05:12)
Reflections on being nervous about handling vomiting kids—as well as their own aversions to throwing up—spark humorous and relatable tales about the less glamorous sides of parenting.

2. TV, Reality Shows, and Brain Rot

The hosts riff on how screen time, particularly when sick, now feels less harmful than doom-scrolling on phones (10:04).
Lively banter covers family habits with TV, March Madness, and the emotional rollercoaster of TV cancellations (notably The Bachelorette being cancelled mid-season).
Discussing shows like "The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives," the sisters-in-law touch on the differences between reality TV, real-life drama, and why neither of them would make good reality stars.

3. Pregnancy Announcement & The Complex Journey After Loss

(22:01–41:00)

Abby C. announces her pregnancy (currently 19 weeks) and reflects on why she waited to share it publicly.

“I feel like for so long…we’ve been dodging it. I just got so comfortable not talking about it.” (21:38)
She recounts discovering the pregnancy on her birthday, then facing confusing early tests and weeks of uncertainty—including bleeding at six weeks, which brought difficult memories of her previous late miscarriage.
The challenges of a high-anxiety pregnancy after loss are discussed candidly. Abby explains the emotional gap between “pre-loss” pregnancies when she was “blissfully ignorant” versus the fragility she feels now:

“It’s so interesting, like the way it happened for me…having two healthy pregnancies and then a loss…It’s like, I can’t even actually relate or remember those pregnancies before.” (53:00)
The hosts share family reactions and humorous tales of “stealth” pregnancy investigations (tight dresses, food aversions, suspicious behaviors at family outings!).

4. Morning Sickness, Cravings & Real-Life Pregnancy Survival

The discussion shifts to practical advice and real talk on morning sickness:
- Unisom+B6 is the go-to OTC combo that prevented vomiting for Abby after her first pregnancy.
  
  “Try [Unisom + B6] as soon as you find out you’re pregnant…my friend just got through her first trimester and no one ever told her about that, and she was really sick.” (34:04)
The hosts laugh about failed attempts at healthy eating, McDonald’s cravings, and unique food preferences in pregnancy.
Abby C. reflects on the “fourth pregnancy” mindset: “I give zero rips about anything regarding my body…Every symptom, so welcome…even when I was nauseous, I was like, ‘yay!’ So excited.” (38:33)

5. C-Sections, Guilt, and Redemption

The realities and emotions of C-sections get a deep dive with no sugar coating.
Abby C. describes her emergency C-section experience and the contrasting relief and oddity of a scheduled one:

“I had self tan on, I had my makeup done…fully rested…checked in at noon, holding my baby at one o’clock…that was incredible.” (46:36)
Both Abbys discuss working through feelings of body betrayal and guilt after unplanned C-sections:

“I felt a lot of anger at my body because I felt like my body failed me. I was just, like, mad…for the first time ever it just didn’t do what I was needing it to do.” (63:55)

6. Listener Q&As: VBAC Advice, Pregnancy After Loss, and Processing Failure

Abby B. provides detailed practical and mindset tips for pursuing a VBAC: daily walking, “spinning babies” exercises, and timing the epidural (56:31).
The hosts offer empathy and honest advice for listeners:
- Coping with low progesterone and the “fear of the unknown” in family planning:
  
  “There’s no way out the other side, but through it…therapy helps a lot…there’ll be good days and there’ll be bad days…not all gonna be bad days, not all gonna be good days.” (59:22)
Both encourage a posture of surrender, leaning on community, and accepting that most parenting and pregnancy outcomes are beyond our control.
On the pain and processing of C-section guilt, both share their journeys toward acceptance and warn against comparing experiences or advice too deeply.

7. Book Club: “Atmosphere” & Memorable Quotes

(73:03–84:59)

The trio reviews their February/March book club pick, sharing laughs over speed-reading techniques, favorites and criticisms, and two standout quotes:

“Men are hard and brittle. But being soft and flexible is always more durable…” (76:29) “You have to have something on the line for it to be called character.” (80:11)
Summary consensus: Enjoyable, with strong female leads and interesting historical space context, though some wanted more technical detail about the astronaut storyline.

8. Recipes of the Week & Closing Moments

“Always Hungry” recipe segment:
- Abby B’s Beef & Broccoli (ground beef for quick easy meals)
- Abby C’s homemade southern-style Strawberry Shortcake (“the greatest way to welcome in spring/summer!”)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On hiding a pregnancy:
“It was just kind of like I wasn’t ready to talk, open it up to the whole Internet…so halfway, which is exciting.” (22:13)
On pregnancy after loss:
“Pregnancy after loss, like…you have your pregnancies before, and then you have your pregnancies after, and they are vastly different.” (53:00)
On C-section guilt & recovery:
“I was, like, mad that I had to do that after…going through labor for so many hours. I used to look at my scar…I’d look in the mirror and, like, ugh, my body betrayed me.” (64:48)
On appetite, cravings, and McDonald’s:
“I never eat McDonald’s. I want it in the first trimester. I think McDonald’s is really kind of gross. [But] need it?” (33:44)
On “mom talk” versus reality TV:
“If they did us, it’d be, like, splash pad, burn, boot camp, gym…Let’s eat dinner and go to bed by 9:30.” (15:44)
On embracing the 'miracle' and the uncertainty:
“With modern science and innovation, we can control family planning more than ever, but we still cannot control family planning. And that is just the bottom line.” (61:49)
On the miracle of survival and surrender:
“And the only difference between them and other people that have lived the worst case scenario is simply just luck. And that’s really what it boils down to.” (62:07)

Timestamps for Key Segments

Stomach Bug & Family Chaos: 01:15–09:30
TV, Screen Time, and Reality TV Banter: 09:33–16:10
Pregnancy Announcement & Journey: 21:38–41:00
Morning Sickness / Food Cravings: 32:21–38:33
C-Sections, Guilt, and Acceptance: 45:55–54:11, 63:55–68:33
Listener Q&A: VBAC, Anxiety, and Failure: 56:10–68:33
Book Club Discussion: 73:03–84:59
Always Hungry Recipes: 86:44–88:58

Listener Takeaways

Practical pregnancy hacks: Try Unisom + B6 for nausea, be patient with your cravings and needs, and let expectations go—especially if you’re on your second, third, or fourth pregnancy.
C-Section solidarity: It’s okay to grieve, to feel anger, or even to love a scheduled C-section. Every experience is unique and deserving of processing.
Faith & Surrender: Accepting uncertainty in family building is an act of faith, not failure.
Community Matters: Lean into support—whether therapy, spouse, or friends. Let go of “other people’s opinions” and remember you’re not alone.
Always Hungry? Don’t miss Abby’s ground beef & broccoli or homemade strawberry shortcake.
Read along: Next month’s book club is “Just Friends” by Haley Pham.

The Always Here podcast continues to be a source of relatable, unfiltered, supportive conversation for moms and families in all stages. Abby & Abby deliver both honesty and hope—the perfect companions for the “hope and the hard.”