Telling family I’m pregnant, gender reveal, & transition from 1 to 2

Summary

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Always Here – Episode Summary

Podcast: Always Here
Hosts: Abby Howard & Abigail “Addie” Howard (sisters-in-law)
Episode Title: Telling family I’m pregnant, gender reveal, & transition from 1 to 2
Date: July 3, 2026

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Overview of the Episode

In this heartfelt, candid, and often hilarious episode of "Always Here," Abby and Addie navigate pregnancy announcements, gender reveals, and the real-life transition of going from one child to two (and from two to three!). This episode stands out for its honest takes on motherhood, the emotional and logistical realities of expanding a family, and the nuances of telling family members big news. Featuring personal stories, sister-in-law banter, TV chat, and audience Q&A, the episode blends the “hope and the hard” with plenty of laughter and vulnerability.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pregnancy Announcements & Reactions

• Addie reveals her pregnancy (00:48)
  • Abby and Abigail react with shock and joy, both reflecting on the unique (and humorous) way they discovered the news.
  • Notable moment: Addie’s husband Matt finds out later, and his reaction is described as “steady” and “underwhelming,” leading to lots of affectionate joking.
• The "big sister" reveal and logistical challenges of telling family members first (51:13)
• Addie’s struggle to find a fitting onesie for her daughter to announce the new pregnancy (51:14)

2. First & Second Trimester Reflections

• Addie shares she is 14.5 weeks pregnant, officially in the second trimester and feeling increasingly better after a rougher first trimester (46:01)
• Unexpected symptoms: Nighttime nausea more than morning nausea, a sudden aversion to ground beef, and pregnancy headaches (46:31)
• The differing experiences of pregnancy #1 vs. pregnancy #2 and not being as obsessed with tracking every milestone

3. Gender Reveal and Family Dynamics

• Gender reveal: Addie and Blake are expecting a second daughter—a moment met with excitement and anticipation for sibling bonding (82:58)
• Discussion of running “girl names” and the tradition of “B” names in Addie’s family (83:16)
• The importance of sibling relationships and excitement for two little girls to be best friends (83:28)

4. Transition: One to Two (and Two to Three) Kids

• Identity shift going from zero to one child described as “becoming a mom” and a parent team (68:00–69:38)
• Capacity shift: One to two is “everyone’s fully on” and “capacity has to grow,” with more juggling, less downtime, and increased logistical complexity
• Addie and Abby discuss tag-teaming parent duties, feeling "guilt" and struggling to manage both children’s needs—especially after C-section or with limited energy (72:53, 75:46)
  • Memorable quote: “I literally can’t do it by myself... I think I lacked a lot of confidence I thought I had. It was a really humbling time.” (72:53, Abigail)
• Abby emphasizes that receiving and accepting help is essential, and how much the process humbled her (76:01)
  • Memorable quote: "There are times in our life where the Lord is like, you need to accept help and you need help. I think we have to be reminded we can't do things on our own." (76:00)
• Both hosts reflect on how much easier it gets once both kids are toddlers and can entertain one another—"having two is way easier than one" (76:31)

5. Real-World “Hope and Hard” of Motherhood

• Abby and Addie normalize feelings of overwhelm, guilt, and the challenge of postpartum rage/emotions, particularly compounded by outside stressors like travel, heat, and social obligations (04:32, 75:46, 95:03)
• Honest discussions about not always being ready or prepared to “nest”—especially before baby #3 (61:02)
  • Importance of accepting help and managing expectations.
• Reflections on the challenges of adding another child when moving homes, working full-time, and logistically planning life transitions (57:11, 59:59)

6. Lighter Family & Lifestyle Moments

• Hilariously awkward moments like forgetting a sibling’s birthday and singing "Happy Birthday" live (55:12)
• Recaps from recent trips (Florida vacation with three families and seven children under five; St. Louis family celebration)
• Joke exchange about surprise parties, husband personality quirks, and being "bad at birthdays" (15:31–16:06)

7. TV & Pop Culture Recap

• Quick reviews/discussions of Maternal Instinct (true crime doc), Love Island (discussion of show format and current events), and family-favorite kid movies like Emperor’s New Groove and The Incredibles (23:03–44:17)
  • Notable moment: Maternal Instinct documentary segment is processed with heavy trigger warnings, shock, and empathetic commentary about the scariness of real-life crimes (25:20–36:36)
  • Quote: "You guys, I could have gone my whole life without knowing this story." (32:35, Abigail)

8. Q&A and Listener Voicemails

• Advice for handling postpartum feelings about pets (especially wanting to get rid of a family dog after baby #2—collective advice: give it time!) (93:41–98:13)
  • “I didn’t have rage toward my kids, I had rage toward my dog. And it’s such a real, real thing.” (95:03, Abby)
• Navigating faded friendships as an adult (98:17–100:33)
  • Emphasis on gently creating space without confrontation: “Create space naturally and gradually.”
• First-time mom prep: Building a bedside cart for night feeds (100:36–104:30)
  • Recommendations: keep it simple, snacks, water, focus on routines
  • “Don’t be afraid to switch things up or try new things. Every night can be different until you find your rhythm.” (106:45, Addie)
• Single mom encouragement and acknowledgment—praise for resilience and reminding that everyone needs help, regardless of support system (104:30–105:25)

9. Always Hungry (Recipes)

• Addie’s easy cinnamon roll bites and Abby’s white chicken chili with pumpkin cornbread crust (108:12–110:06)
• Fun practical talk about baking and “crunchy” (i.e., health-conscious) kitchen decisions—like washing off store-bought shredded cheese (110:08)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On family help and guilt:

  “I think I lacked a lot of confidence that I thought that I had… Like as a mom, not feeling self-sufficient is probably one of the most scary things.” – Abigail, 72:53

• On the zero-to-one vs. one-to-two transition:

  “Zero to one was hard because that’s an identity shift… but with one, you’re kind of tag-teaming. One to two, you’re both fully on.” – Abigail, 68:53

• On postpartum pet rage:

  “I didn’t have rage toward my kids, I had rage toward my dog. And it’s such a real, real thing.” – Abby, 95:03

• On receiving help:

  “There are times in our life where the Lord is like, you need to accept help and you need help. I think we have to be reminded we can't do things on our own.” – Abby, 76:00

• On motherhood highlight reels vs. reality:

  “If there’s anything from this episode, I hope that no one thinks I’m complaining. My goal was to make everyone that feels guilt or overwhelm to not feel alone in that. That’s what makes it feel the most impossible.” – Abigail, 104:45

• On gender reveal:

  “Breaking news. It’s a girl!” – Addie, 82:58

• On two under two:

  “I just want you to know, two under two is difficult. I just want you to know that before we start.” – Abigail, 85:19

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:48 – Addie reveals she’s pregnant
• 46:01 – Addie’s trimester update and symptoms
• 51:14 – The accidental family gender reveal
• 68:00–69:38 – The shift from 0→1 vs. 1→2 (and to 3) kids
• 72:53 – Guilt, humility, and asking for help as a mom
• 76:31 – Having two toddlers “is way easier” than just one
• 82:58 – Gender reveal: It’s a girl!
• 93:41–98:13 – Voicemail: Should I rehome my dog postpartum?
• 98:17–100:33 – Voicemail: How to end an adult friendship?
• 100:36–105:43 – Bedside cart setup + advice for new (solo) moms
• 108:12–110:06 – Always Hungry: cinnamon roll bites & white chicken chili
• 110:08+ – Kitchen hacks, gratitude to listeners, and show close

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Episode Tone

Genuine, funny, compassionate, and deeply honest. Abby and Addie balance uplifting banter with the “hard” of motherhood, encouraging one another and their listeners to be kind to themselves, to accept help, and to find humor in the chaos.

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For New & Expecting Parents

• The struggle is real, but the growth and joy are too.
• You are not alone in feeling unprepared, overwhelmed, or in need of help.
• Accepting help and adjusting expectations is key—nobody does it perfectly.
• The early months are the hardest—but it truly gets better, and siblings really do become friends with time.

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Closing Sentiments

“Remember, we’re always here.” (112:44, Abby & Abigail)

This episode is a must-listen for anyone preparing for a new baby, navigating a growing family, or needing a candid (and heartwarming) reminder that both the struggles and the joys of modern motherhood are shared.

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Transcript

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[Abigail]

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[Addie]

I'm pregnant.

[Abigail]

We found out before your husband Matt

[Addie]

thought I was announcing it to you guys.

[Abby]

He comes in recording, so we're all like, huh.

[Abigail]

I just remember feeling for so long, I was like, how irresponsible of me. I made these children. I, like, wanted these children. And I literally can't do it by myself. I think I lacked a lot of confidence that I thought that I had. I got low E and low P. So low energy.

[Abby]

Low P, low patience. Patience.

[Abigail]

This is so hot. I'm like, get in your car seat now.

[Abby]

Welcome back to Always Is Here, where your host, Abby Howard and Abby Howard. Wow. We're diving in.

[Abigail]

Diving in.

[Abby]

I feel like we haven't talked in so long because we kind of didn't.

[Abigail]

We didn't.

[Abby]

But this next coming month, we're going to talk too much, probably.

[Abigail]

I did talk to you yesterday.

[Abby]

No, I guess we talked, but there's other people there.

[Abigail]

Yeah, on the podcast.

[Abby]

Yeah, on the podcast. Where our social calendars for the next six weeks are booked and busy. Baby. I'm a little overwhelmed.

[Abigail]

I'm scared.

[Abby]

Every day there's a new thing. I'm like, oh, yes, Yes, I want to do that.

[Addie]

Whoa.

[Abby]

Another thing. But adding up. Yeah, that'll be fun.

[Abigail]

That's good.

[Abby]

Do you think it'll help your last few weeks of pregnancy fly by or you think it'll be worse because you'll know. You'll feel how tired you are.

[Abigail]

I don't know.

[Abby]

I think both.

[Abigail]

Both.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Yeah. But wow.

[Abby]

I can't even think about it.

[Abigail]

There's, like, so much going on. I'm like, just take it day by day. So then I'm like, I don't know if I want it to fly by because I'm like, there is so much to be done.

[Abby]

Sure.

[Abigail]

But I'm like, I do want it to be here. You know that conflict everyone has right before they have a baby.

[Abby]

Totally. I know, I know. We'll talk about more stuff later, but I'm curious about your nesting mode and all that. I want to know all about it. Well, we are here to share the hope in the hard with heart and humor. And so let's share our hearts first.

[Abigail]

Sure.

[Abby]

Okay. We can end on a high note.

[Abigail]

Yeah. My heart is kind of. I got low E and low P.

[Abby]

Low E. So low energy, low P,

[Abigail]

low patience, which is probably caused by low E. But it's also. It's also inducing, like, low social battery, too. And, like, I feel myself being like, I want to be fun and, like,

[Abby]

I want to talk.

[Abigail]

And then there's this other part of me that's like, you don't have the capacity.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

And if I have it, I want to give it to my kids. So then it causes guilt. So I'm just, like, so tired, and I'm like, I just slept. Like, I just woke up. The day is fresh. And then I'm like, dragon. And then we go, like, hang out with the kids, and I'm like, feel like I'm just, like, not that patient with them, which is something I feel like I wasn't. I didn't struggle with as much, which I was, like, prideful about in a way. Like, I was like, ah, they're kids. Like, I felt like I understood. And then now I'm like, just hurry up.

[Addie]

Like, go faster.

[Abigail]

Especially because it's so hot. I feel like that's what induces the most lack of patience in me. I'm like, get in your car seat now.

[Abby]

Speed. That toddlers move. So many distractions so hard.

[Abigail]

Sometimes they're like, I want my shooter. I want my ball. I want my. I'm like, you don't need it.

[Abby]

It's a hundred and ten. Speak of a dragon.

[Abigail]

Just get in your seat. And then they're like, we're late, Mom. And because it's. I think I say that all the time. I'm, like, literally stressing them out, too,

[Abby]

just because I think about that.

[Abigail]

Impatient. But I'm going to try to work on that. But, gosh, it's a little hard. And then. Then it carries on to, like, I'm hanging out with friends. I'm like, I really want to be here, like, with them.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

But I just think I just need to be here and just, like, sitting and just Be like here?

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Like I feel like people are probably like, why is Abby not like me anymore? No, I love you guys. I love you so much. Just have low E and low P and low social battery.

[Abby]

Sure.

[Abigail]

Which is a little concerning because we have a lot, a lot of social events coming up. So I'm like, what do I do about that?

[Abby]

Survive. No, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. I think everyone knows. I mean I think that's just expected of pregnant women.

[Abigail]

Cuz I also have this quality about me where if I don't have the energy, I just don't.

[Abby]

I had to learn that. Yeah, Yeah. I used to be like, oh, I think Abby's like upset.

[Abigail]

Yeah. And I think I caused that with a lot of people. And I'm like, man, I feel so bad.

[Abby]

You just gotta tell. You just gotta say it out loud. Sorry, I'm just tired.

[Abigail]

Just say I'm tired.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Like what do I do? I just like go silent.

[Abby]

Yeah, you just go quiet. And then it's like, oh, she's normally so chatty.

[Abigail]

Yeah, okay. I'll try to be like, hey guys, by the way, I'm tired.

[Abby]

I know. It's so hard sometimes managing people's faces

[Abigail]

and you just feel like a whiner. No, I don't want to be a whiner.

[Abby]

Sorry. I'm not sure I did it today with Caitlyn at Super Play because she came and sat by me while our our daughters were playing and I just wasn't saying anything and then I was like, sorry, I'm just tired. I'm just not saying nothing. I was like. But it's not you. It's not hard too. It's just love being Is it way too late watching the Dusk. I was cheerleaders the last three nights, so. Oh my catching up. You need to catch.

[Addie]

Did you finish Maternal instinct? Of course. Okay, good.

[Abby]

Yeah, I had to. I told Caleb is for work so made him sit down with me.

[Abigail]

Wait, can we just talk about that right now? Since it got brought up.

[Abby]

Well, no, no, we got to stick to the schedule.

[Abigail]

Never mind. What's your heart, Abigail?

[Abby]

My heart is I've been nursing a knee injury and a shoulder injury and I'm just.

[Abigail]

Wait, really?

[Abby]

Yeah. It's been like three months.

[Abigail]

You never said anything.

[Abby]

I do think my knee injury was a hard a couple like a while ago on the podcast know that it's still hard because I don't let it rest. You know what I mean? But every day at the gym I'm just Like, especially the shoulder one's really painful.

[Abigail]

What. What happened to your shoulder?

[Abby]

I couldn't tell you what what happened was. I. I think I went wonky on a lunge when I was postpartum and my limbs were, you know, your joints are just loose. At least mine were loose and weak. And yeah, I tweaked it. And my shoulder, I think the same. I don't know if it's on the back or the front, but I can't do chest press or like push. I can't do push ups it. Like, literally my shoulder stops. Like there's not full. So.

[Abigail]

Oh, my gosh.

[Abby]

Something's there, so just gotta baby it until gone. But yeah, it's annoying. Oh, I'm sad.

[Abigail]

That's a long time to have that.

[Abby]

I know. And I think it's gonna take a long time to heal. But it's one of those things where, you know, when you internally, you're like in your head, you're like, I'm ready to go. And then you get up to there and it's like you physically have a limitation. It just feels annoying.

[Abigail]

I've never had an injury like that. Yeah, I never played sports. I just had a soft life.

[Abby]

Just part of it. I know. Just part of it.

[Abigail]

Dang it.

[Abby]

So that's my heart.

[Abigail]

I don't push myself hard enough to get.

[Abby]

I just pushed myself too. Too hard before I was ready and then hurt myself.

[Abigail]

I'm just kidding. I did injure my ankle one time. Were you the one that one of you saw it happen? No, it was your mom at the gym. Yeah.

[Addie]

I feel like you remember.

[Abigail]

I remember you saying this dramatic ankle roll, like. Like, literally, my cuz I'm wearing those and I just went cold. And I was like, oh, my.

[Abby]

Oh, my.

[Abigail]

And I just like kind of froze. This is what I do when I get injured, apparently. Like when I got hit with the golf club, just.

[Abby]

I'm like, why is that not your hard?

[Abigail]

Because it wasn't that hard compared to this energy problem. I'll take a lot of golf clubs and black ey lowy low pe black ey.

[Abby]

I walked in the door yesterday after swim, and I look at Evan, I go, oh, it looks bad. And Evie looked at me and I was like. I meant to say it doesn't look that bad.

[Abigail]

I couldn't understand what you were saying, but then I was like, oh, she's talking about my eye. And then I was like, I just looked worse.

[Abby]

You look bad. That's what I said. And I was like, why did it? I didn't mean for it to come out. You don't look as bad as I thought it was going to look.

[Abigail]

Oh, that's what you meant.

[Abby]

Yeah, I meant I thought it was going to be worse.

[Abigail]

Yeah. My son accidentally hit me with a golf club. I say, golf club. It was like a putter. Is that the same thing? Yeah, it's a cup, I guess.

[Abby]

Metal.

[Abigail]

And it was heavy. Shoot.

[Abby]

Why did they have this inside aerie?

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Did they have, like, a golf, like, advertising area?

[Abigail]

It's like their sports. The airy offline.

[Addie]

I would say from a distance, it just looks like you have mascara on. Like, you need it. I actually almost said that to you yesterday before we were recording. I was like, I think you have my. I never said it because then I was like, oh, she got hit me. I. Yeah, that's a little break. So I don't think it's that bad.

[Abigail]

No, it. I thought it was gonna be worse. What happened was it, like, swung up and got me, and then I just

[Abby]

like, yeah, you just gotta breathe. You're like, don't react.

[Abigail]

And then I just grabbed the club, put it back. I was like, we're leaving.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Then I, like, walk out of the store, and I'm like, there's, like, a shadow in my eye. And then I was like, what is that? And I, like, reach and blood.

[Abby]

Perfect.

[Abigail]

This looks wild right now.

[Abby]

I had one black eye in the same spot. When I was in middle school, I babysat a little girl, Katherine, and I love babysitting her. And she was so excited to see me. When I walked in, she jumped on me and popped me right in the eye with her head. Like, minute I walked in the door, I had a black eye, and I just bounced out. Purple eyeshadow. Seventh grade.

[Abigail]

So seventh grade.

[Abby]

Seventeen magazine was telling me to wear it. Anyway, I already had the purple eyeshadow. I said, perfect. We'll just even it out on the other side.

[Abigail]

That's funny. No, it wasn't a big deal, but it was shocking. I look great.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

No problem.

[Abigail]

I sent a picture to Matt, and I said, I just sent the picture. No, because he called me right away. He's like, what happened? I was like, it was a golf club.

[Abby]

Golf club incident. Yeah.

[Abigail]

My hope is that I am. I have, like, the biggest career project I have essentially ever worked on that is literally so. So around the corner.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

A week away.

[Abby]

Wow.

[Abigail]

By the time that this goes live.

[Abby]

Oh, my gosh.

[Abigail]

It's crazy that it is. It's like, I feel so in over my head.

[Abby]

Totally.

[Abigail]

Like to be honest. But I'm also just like so ready for it to just like exist publicly, even though I'm like so scared about it because it's been such a long time coming.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

I'm telling you, the conversations first started in 2022, but then like, seriously, like putting things into place was two over two years ago. And I never thought it would take that.

[Abby]

You know, it's one of those things

[Abigail]

where you never think it would take that long.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

And then in my mind, just with the amount of time that it has taken, it is just building up and making it more nerve wracking for sure.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Like it's not that big of a deal, but.

[Abby]

But it is a big deal.

[Abigail]

Yeah, I'm proud of. I'm so proud of the product. I'm proud of myself too. But also, I am proud, but also there's been so many people that have helped it get to this point that I'm like, I'm proud of all of us. Not just like me for like doing this, but it's been crazy. And it's crazy. The timing of it all like transparently was supposed to be a thing in November of last year and then series of events have occurred and that wasn't gonna happen anymore. And then now I'm like, wow, it's coming right before baby. Well, different type of baby, but yeah, so many things.

[Abby]

I'm so excited for you.

[Abigail]

I am excited and scared and sweaty.

[Abby]

Well, that's life. That's, that's, that's what makes life fun.

[Abigail]

It is crazy.

[Abby]

The timing Addy and I were talking about when we launched, always here, we kept saying like, the timing, the timing's just perfect. Like this is no better timing. And then now in retrospect, I'm looking back, I'm like, we were so postpartum, grieving in postpartum, pregnant, like literally Christmas time, like literally horrible time. But like great time, perfect timing.

[Abigail]

Sometimes there's never a right time.

[Abby]

Never a right time. But yeah, it's funny that you got another big thing coming at another big milestone, but honestly, like, that's just how we do it. Like if you got big things coming, you just keep the big things coming,

[Abigail]

you know, Keep them coming, keep things rolling. You never know with life. You just gotta keep it rolling.

[Abby]

You just gotta keep it rolling. So here we are. Yeah, I'm so excited. Can't wait to see. Did they cut that out of the last favorite?

[Abigail]

I think it's been cut out of a lot of Things I just have been running my mouth and like, actually you can't do that. And I'm like, but why?

[Abby]

The amount of time has been cut out.

[Abigail]

Yeah, I've like talked about it and then it's like, hey, no, Earn. And I'm like, I thought I was in charge, right?

[Abby]

Isn't this my thing?

[Abigail]

I am not in charge. The powers that be.

[Abby]

You know what? It's good to have a team.

[Abigail]

No, seriously.

[Abby]

So. Seriously, it's good. Well, that's a great hope. I'm so happy for you. I. I feel like I am excited for the next couple weeks and just everything we have going on, so many birthday parties, babies, celebrations, trips planned. So it's just gonna be like a really fun. I think this summer overall has been amazing and I've been really grateful with how it's been going and I'm excited for. It's headed. I just got back from a 24 hour trip to St. Louis with my family, which was really fun. I just went by myself, which was, oh my gosh, so peaceful. Like flying by yourself. Because even like married, you know, you're just not flying alone all the time. It was so. I was like, wow, I got a lot done on the plane. It's just wonderful. It's just a different experience. Like it's so fun with kids because you're cuddling them, you're playing, you're like having sex, you're talking your energy energies up. But then there's the flip side of it. When you're by yourself. It's like I'm reading a good book. I'm like editing stuff on my computer, I'm watching a movie, I sleep. Like it's just a different experience. So it was really fun getting to

[Abigail]

choose how you spend your time.

[Abby]

Yes, totally pretty. It's a luxury. So my dad had his 50 years at his radio station and they did did a big concert for him and at the end we got to go out and surprise him with this award from the city and a cake. And they put me in charge of bringing the cake and presenting it. And this cake was really heavy. It was like a multi tier cake. Solid. Like had support.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And yeah, my dad was there.

[Abigail]

Fondant on there.

[Abby]

Yes, it was a beautiful cake. So heavy and like over six minutes I stood out there just holding it out like this, just resting on my forearms and the backstage guys, because my dad was giving a speech and he talked for a little. For long. A long time. Not a long time. Felt like a little longer than I was expecting. It was a great speech. Like, it wasn't too much, but I just wasn't expecting to hold the cake that long. And the stage managers ran off and

[Abigail]

were like, how in the heck was

[Abby]

she holding that cake that long? It ran out and got it from me. It was heavy, but I could not drop it.

[Abigail]

Wrap it up, dad.

[Abby]

But it was really fun. It was so fun seeing my family and. Yeah. So I'm excited to go back in a couple weeks.

[Abigail]

I'm always so amazed at the differences between our dads because.

[Abby]

No, like, my dad's a public figure.

[Abigail]

My dad. The thought of him talking on stage, I mean, it just simply couldn't happen.

[Abby]

I know.

[Abigail]

Well, yeah, speaking.

[Abby]

That's funny.

[Abigail]

That's just reminding me of. We're throwing him a birthday party this week and he has no idea about it.

[Abby]

He probably doesn't want to know about it.

[Abigail]

No, he can't. Yeah.

[Abby]

Yeah, he doesn't. He literally won't show up.

[Abigail]

No one will know that it's his birthday party either.

[Addie]

That's exactly how he wants it.

[Abigail]

That's exactly how he wants it.

[Abby]

Oh, my gosh.

[Addie]

It's me.

[Abigail]

Because he's just. I don't know how I have half his DNA.

[Addie]

Honestly, it's the same way for Blake. I did a surprise party for him once with his friend showing up and he was really caught off guard.

[Abigail]

He was like, please never do this again.

[Addie]

I was like, are you okay?

[Abigail]

Are you okay?

[Addie]

He's like, I just didn't. I just thought we were gonna hang out with a family. I was like, well, your friends are here too now. Friends.

[Abby]

Caleb doesn't really like surprises either. And it's not that he doesn't like the surprise itself. He just has to mentally prepare for things. Yeah, I think that's like, he feel like he can't enjoy it if he hasn't mentally prepared. To me, that's a curse. I'm like, let me just add it.

[Abigail]

You know what I mean?

[Abby]

Let me just throw me in experience. It's.

[Abigail]

That's so funny.

[Abby]

Yeah. The differences.

[Abigail]

That's really fun.

[Abby]

Father's Day was fun. Did you guys have a good Father's Day?

[Abigail]

Yeah, we were traveling all day. Yeah. One hour drive, two hour flight, three over layover, and then another two hour flight, 30 minute drive.

[Abby]

How was that?

[Abigail]

It was fine. I mean, there. Our kids are easy to travel now. But I mean, I was like, this

[Abby]

sounds hard for me.

[Abigail]

Certainly my last flight, I'm not doing it again. And I. If someone asked me to get on a Plane. I have no backbone. So I might get on a plane, but I really don't think so.

[Abby]

Yeah, I am.

[Abigail]

I'm almost 36. I mean, I'm 33, so I'm like, if someone asked me on a plane before 36, I'm really. It would have to be very, very dire.

[Abby]

Emergent. Yeah.

[Abigail]

Because it was just a lot. But that was our Father's Day, but we went home and I had, like, little balloons and a card for Matt, and I got him, like, a gift. But then we had my dad over, too, and we just had, like, something small because I was like, I don't have the capability to do anything else, but just a small. I was like, I want to see you, dad. And so that was fun, but it was just small and sweet.

[Abby]

Good. That's fun. We had a great weekend. We had a lot of quality time. We did the workout on Saturday. The dad was kids workout. It was really cute. And CJ and Caleb both had so much fun. Caleb was really grateful that I signed him up for that.

[Abigail]

And then our gym that we go to had, like, a father.

[Abby]

Yeah. Kids.

[Abigail]

Kids workout.

[Abby]

It was really cute. And then we had lunch with some of our friends after at the coffee shop, which was fun. And then on actual Father's Day, I made Caleb those lemon blueberry sweet rolls that are so good.

[Abigail]

I shared that recipe.

[Abby]

They're good. You probably make them better than me because I'm not the best at a dough, but. And you have to. I actually think now you have to double the filling because there wasn't enough, like, blueberry filling in it, but. Unbelievable. And I made him this other ambitious kitchen recipe that he requested. It's a white chicken chili pumpkin cornbread pie.

[Abigail]

He was in the fall mood.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

That's his favorite season. Yeah. It was really fun. We walked around.

[Abigail]

He does love pumpkin.

[Abby]

He does. He's a big pumpkin guy. So it's fun. We just had so much quality time, which Kill doesn't get full weekends off like that very often. So it was really fun.

[Abigail]

That's sweet.

[Abby]

He felt celebrated well. Which was. I should also wanted.

[Abigail]

The reason we were traveling was because we had just gone to Florida with our friends. We did. I never talked about that, but we went on a beach trip with our friends. I'm sad that you guys weren't there, but I know, honestly, three families was plenty of families.

[Abby]

Would you do it again?

[Abigail]

Yes. It was so fun.

[Abby]

Okay, good. Okay.

[Abigail]

And actually, Matt was saying he's, like, between Hawaii, Tahoe, and Florida, which are like, the Three family vacations we've taken recently. He's like, honestly think I had the best time in Florida. Good. And it's just fun to like be with friends and everyone has kids. And that was on my bucket list of like traveling with friends. And I was like, I already want to do it again. But I do think the more kids you have, the less families you can have together. Because I'm like, pretty soon two might be enough people.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Because there's seven kids.

[Abby]

So yeah.

[Abigail]

There was a baby, a one year old, two two year olds, two three year olds and a four year old.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Seven under five. And it was a pretty small house because we wanted to stay right by the beach. And the houses are really tall, but they're like, there's three stories, but it was just like narrow.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

And the, the volume level a couple times we're like, we have to turn on a movie

[Addie]

level.

[Abigail]

Is crazy in here. And it was, but it was so fun. It was just chaotic. There is sand everywhere. There's so much poop. I can't even explain it. Like there was poop.

[Abby]

There's so many diapers.

[Abigail]

So many.

[Abby]

Actually, I guess a lot of those kids are potty trained.

[Abigail]

Yeah. But there's still poop. There was still poop and poop problems.

[Abby]

Yeah, Too much poop.

[Abigail]

Then there was constipation. There was just a lot of poop happening.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

And it was just fun because everyone was there, like was like, like, you know, not again. Or like a breakdown because of sand. Or like just like everyone just knew. And so that was fun for sure. The kids kind of entertained each other. My kids certainly couldn't sleep because they were just so jazzed. I was like, wow, here you are again.

[Abby]

Go back to bed.

[Abigail]

Like we just kept. Cuz we kept talking about like, please

[Abby]

get out of here.

[Abigail]

Once the kids go to bed like the adults, the parents are going to get to have fun.

[Abby]

And then I was like, kids go to bed at 10pm Kids go to

[Abigail]

bed at 10pm everyone's exhausted. But it was fun. We played a lot of cats. We played so much catan.

[Abby]

So.

[Abigail]

Yeah, well actually the husbands played a lot of catan. And then I joined one game.

[Abby]

Sure.

[Abigail]

And I just had to smack talk them all because it just got really competitive.

[Abby]

Did you win?

[Abigail]

Almost literally. I was going to win the next turn Shoot. And I feel like they kind of ganged up on me. Honestly, my own husband backstabbed me. I know. I was actually kind of mad people. I was like, you're kidding me. Right. And I feel like I was about to win. I literally was. But wow. Anyway, it was really fun. It was a good time.

[Addie]

Good.

[Abigail]

I want to go back to that area. We went to 30A and it was so fun. It did feel like I was, like jumping in a pot of soup, though, because it was so humid and so hot. Like, as soon as you'd walk out to go on a walk, I was soaking wet.

[Abby]

I felt Florida is so when you go from Arizona, which is one extreme, to Florida, which is another extreme. I've had a nose bleeding. From the humidity.

[Abigail]

No, from going back to Arizona after Florida. I never get nosebleeds.

[Abby]

Totally. And I was like.

[Abigail]

It was just like, probably like 100 humidity to, like 0%.

[Abby]

My body was like, what's going on? When I went. I went to Florida for my. One of my best friends bachelorette parties right after we moved here, and I've been running here in the desert, and I went for a run there, and I was so unwell. The amount of sweat that came out my body, I was like, I literally look like I jumped in a pool with my clothes on.

[Abigail]

It was gross.

[Abby]

Unbelievable. It's gross. It's a different.

[Abigail]

We went on a lot of walks, and I was like, I am disgusting.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

I couldn't wear, like, a cute little tank top either. I was wearing, like, a T shirt, and I was just, like, sticking sticky.

[Abby]

And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Abigail]

So spooky.

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[Abby]

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[Abigail]

Okay, I need to have the TV update because I haven't watched anything. Really?

[Addie]

I did request five minutes.

[Abby]

All right, Addy, we have to talk about maternal instinct.

[Addie]

Yeah. Do you want to start there? So start on one we can both talk about and then I can go into Andy. I'll do. We'll end with Love Island.

[Abby]

I don't really feel like DCC there were any updates.

[Addie]

I agree. Like, that's kind of biggest thing is that there wasn't really much.

[Abby]

Yeah. It was just entertaining to watch. But I didn't think there was, like, a storyline to speak about.

[Addie]

No, I didn't think there were, like, any big characters. Like, Faith was probably the biggest one.

[Abigail]

I liked it.

[Addie]

Australian and New Zealand and Rhys.

[Abby]

I actually haven't watched last episode, but I know that she retired.

[Addie]

She does retire.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

And so you're good if you could tell that through the episode.

[Abby]

Congrats on her retirement.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

She retired.

[Addie]

She retired from dcc. They might move back to Alabama.

[Abby]

Yeah. So that's exciting for them.

[Addie]

No, I think that's exciting. Yeah.

[Abby]

I mean, I was entertained, but I didn't think anything like, you know, I feel like last year it was tumultuous for them, but the storyline of them trying to get more money was really interesting conversation.

[Addie]

Yes.

[Abby]

Because I think there was a lot of split opinion.

[Addie]

It was interesting how they referenced it in this episode of being like, last year was, like, rough. And I'm like, wow. Like, yeah, they said that, but they didn't really say too much of how bad it was. But they're like, making it seem like last year was like, yeah. Really?

[Abigail]

What, on the team? Yeah.

[Abby]

I remember last year they fought for higher wages. And so this season they kind of referenced back there. It was. Anytime they talk about the season before, they're like, yeah, it was, you know, last season referencing it was a really 10 high, tense, stressful season among the

[Abigail]

team or among like the.

[Abby]

Amongst them and the team too, because,

[Addie]

like, I think some of them were advocating for more and some of them were like, just let it be. Like, yeah.

[Abby]

Then it's like kind of split the team a little bit.

[Addie]

You can feel like you're disrespecting people because you're going to the higher ups

[Abigail]

to try that being hard.

[Abby]

It would be super hard, especially on a team that big. There's so many dynamics there at play.

[Addie]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

So, yeah, that was like, an interesting season to watch, but I thought this season was. It was just a good, entertaining, easy to watch, but nothing like crazy.

[Addie]

Pretty quick trigger warning. We are about to talk about maternal instinct and the details about the case, and it does involve violent crimes against a pregnant woman and a child. We're gonna discuss this, so skip it if you need to. But just a heads up.

[Abby]

Maternal instincts, though.

[Abigail]

Whoa. Well, the only thing I heard was in our family group chat, Blake never does this, but my brother was like. He texted the family group chat. He was like, by the way, don't watch this. My mom was like, too late. And I was like, what happened? And they're like, it was bad. I was like, but what happened? And they, like, wouldn't say anything.

[Addie]

Well, let's.

[Abby]

Are we gonna trigger warnings? Yeah, we're gonna spoil it.

[Abigail]

We're gonna.

[Abby]

Spoiler alert that we're gonna talk about everything that happens on this document.

[Abigail]

I don't. I cannot Gonna watch it. No.

[Abby]

Yeah, I figured. And we will say there are trigger warnings of, like, crimes against pregnant women. Pregnant women.

[Abigail]

Multiple woman.

[Addie]

One woman.

[Abigail]

Oh, okay.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Crime against a pregnant woman.

[Addie]

Yes.

[Abby]

The crime being murder.

[Addie]

Yeah. To say it lightly. To say it lightly.

[Abigail]

The crime being murdered. Homicide.

[Addie]

Let's just say I spoiled it within the first two. Two minutes of it because I thought Blake knew.

[Abigail]

Wait a minute. Was this one. How did you cry monkey, probably.

[Addie]

They cut the baby out of her. She cut or she. Yeah.

[Abigail]

Oh, my gosh. Wait, say this again.

[Addie]

She took. So that's what I thought. Blake knew that. He's like, she has blood on her shirt. So the. It starts with the police officer going to her car because she got pulled over for speeding. And. And she has this baby. And then Blake goes, she has blood on her. I'm like, yeah, she cut a baby out of someone. And Blake goes, oh, Addie spoiled it the first minute.

[Abby]

I had never heard this story before.

[Abigail]

I have not heard this.

[Addie]

Somehow I knew.

[Abby]

But it's intense. They're in this really small.

[Abigail]

Wait a minute. Is this a reenactment?

[Abby]

No.

[Addie]

No.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

No, it's all, like, real footage, and it's a documentary, so it's all the people.

[Abigail]

That makes it less scary. I feel like. No.

[Abby]

Yeah. You didn't see anything.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

They just talk about it.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And they have, like, the footage of her, all the body cam footage, but you don't see any of, like, the brutality of. Of the incident.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

But it's just so interesting hearing because the girl. I mean, it's a really small Town in Texas. Caleb looked it up. The population's like 5, 000 people. And everyone in this town knew that. This girl. What's her name? Shoot. Taylor.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

This girl Taylor is a psychopath. At 21 years old, she had a hysterectomy. And like, everyone. Two kids after two kids, and she just, like. She's the type that couldn't keep friends. Like, bounce from friend to friend to friend.

[Abigail]

Wait, that makes her a psychopath?

[Abby]

No, but here we go. Everyone just knew that she was a pathological liar, and people did not like her. She had a lot of enemies. She did not have a lot of friends in town. So then she starts dating this guy Wade, who lives a little outside of town, and starts telling him, like, oh, yeah, I'm getting all this money from my family. I'm gonna get $8 million. She tells everyone that she's, like, going to come into these large sums of money, but her crazy mom, like, is tricking her out of this money, okay? So she always has a reason that she's not getting it. She almost scams her way to getting, like, $20 million worth of property, like, something really crazy. And then it's, like, just very extreme. And then Wade and her kind of have, like, not the best relationship. So she kind of. She starts to fake a pregnancy, and she starts posting about it online a lot. Like, she's.

[Abigail]

But she told people she had a hysterectomy, so she didn't tell people.

[Addie]

It happened when she was younger and only a few people knew about it.

[Abigail]

She did have a hysterectomy.

[Abby]

Yes, she did.

[Addie]

She had an application. She had an ectopic pregnancy, and they gave her. They did a hysterectomy.

[Abby]

She's very public on Facebook. Like, she gifted her. Wade's mom, her, like, boyfriend's mom, a new car and made a big post about on Facebook. And then two weeks later, the car got repoed. So she's just very much, like, does things to put online to get attention and, like, praise, okay? So she starts posting about this pregnancy that she's having with Wade, and they've only been together for a couple months, and these, her ex friends from this town are like, she cannot be pregnant. She had a hysterectomy. The doctors, it's such a small town that all the people that are in medical practice or, like, they interview them. Like, we knew that she was lying because she had a hysterectomy, but because of Hippo, we couldn't share. And so it's interesting, everyone's then watching her these next nine months and she's going along, she's having gender reveals parties. All these people are telling Wade, her boyfriend and their family that she's not pregnant. And they're like, no. And it's, it's. So she goes to extreme lengths and I think everyone in their head was just like waiting to see what she was going to do.

[Addie]

Yeah. Like, is she. She's going to have to like fake a miscarriage or lose the baby somehow.

[Abby]

And she never did. So then the hospital alerted the hospital and was like, hey, we need a abduction plus really high lockdown all the babies like for.

[Addie]

Until she got steal a baby from the hospital.

[Abby]

So, so crazy. Isn't that insane?

[Addie]

So with that, she's 41 weeks pregnant now still in all of this.

[Abby]

No, she was 17 days past her due date.

[Abigail]

I can't see where this is going.

[Addie]

Oh yeah, she was more than that.

[Abby]

She was 17 days past her due date and was hanging on.

[Addie]

Yeah, she. No one's ever been pregnant that long and it been safe. And also, keep in mind, Wade, her partner has not seen her.

[Abby]

He hasn't seen her naked for 10 months.

[Addie]

For 10 whole months. Yeah. She was 10 months pregnant, Wade. Yeah. And he was. She just was saying that she didn't feel comfortable and stuff like that.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

She would go in her bathroom for hours every day and just like lock herself in there.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Didn't let.

[Abigail]

She had other kids.

[Abby]

Two other kids, but they weren't really in the picture.

[Addie]

They live with their. They live with her mom. And so that is why her mom kind of puts up with like her telling all these bad things about her

[Abby]

and like the line of the pregnancy.

[Addie]

She's like, I want these kids. Like, she cannot have these kids.

[Abigail]

She let. She puts up with who saying bad things about her.

[Abby]

Like, like why did her mom tell anyone that she's lying? Like, why would the mom not step in? It's like because she didn't want to lose custody of the kids.

[Abigail]

Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

Yeah. And so then it comes down to it. She has this one friend, Reagan, that was like a really good friend to her and was trying to support her even though, like, you know, encourage her. And Reagan was pregnant and. Yeah. Yep. She murdered her. She murdered her and the baby. And it was pretty horrible.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Really horrible. Horrible ending.

[Addie]

Horrible. Horrible. While she's alive, takes the baby out

[Abby]

of her and her three year old was at the house.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

That was the craziest part to me. I'm like, no one in this. No one in this story is, like, got off scot free. Like, it's so insane. So luckily, Taylor got the death penalty.

[Addie]

Yeah. And I'm like, she deserves that.

[Abigail]

Actually not.

[Addie]

She's the youngest person even for that.

[Abigail]

Yeah. But I don't need to get on that soapbox.

[Abby]

I know. I feel like I have mixed feelings about it, but with that, I was

[Abigail]

like, yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna mourn that.

[Abby]

But wait a minute.

[Abigail]

So double homicide.

[Abby]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Abigail]

Horrible friend.

[Addie]

So she. So she. She cut this baby out. She. She was looking up how to perform a C section.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

And how to scalp.

[Abigail]

This woman is indeed evil. I mean, just really sick. So sick.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

They need to study her brain.

[Abby]

Yeah, they did.

[Addie]

She took the baby. The placenta is connected. She's driving to the hospital with the placenta. She shoved the placenta in her pants and is holding the baby and is driving to the hospital, and a cop pulls her over because she's driving really erratically.

[Abigail]

You guys, I could have gone my whole life without knowing the story.

[Addie]

She left and said not.

[Abigail]

Oh, hi. This is, like, so much worse than.

[Abby]

How is that not acknowledged?

[Addie]

Crime junkie. On it.

[Abigail]

That is crazy.

[Abby]

It's really brutal. I mean, it's. Maybe we should give a stronger trigger warning before. Well, we'll go back and go back stronger.

[Abigail]

I think it's a stronger trigger.

[Abby]

It's insane. Yeah.

[Addie]

I would give you a trigger warning after.

[Abigail]

Just sad about this baby. I'm literally about to cry right now.

[Abby]

I was crying, too. It was so insane. And the fact. I don't know. Just this whole town, I think it's. I think the big conversation is, like, how these people just. That was no one's fault. Except her fault.

[Addie]

Yes.

[Abby]

But, like, no one in this town really said anything.

[Addie]

We figured it out. Like, their friend figured it out and knew and was, like, trying to.

[Abby]

They were, like, trying to tell Wade, but just. Yeah, you can just tell. And I don't mean any offense to Wade, but you can just tell. He's probably not, like, the most educated. Like, and I also think in his mind, he probably just didn't really care. Like, he didn't like her at all. You can tell he did not like her.

[Abigail]

This was in Texas.

[Abby]

Yeah. In, like, a really small town, you can tell he didn't like her. And in my head, I'm like, he probably is just like, well, if she thinks she's pregnant, I'll just wait to see what she does. I know she's not, but, like, was this 2020. Not the fact that she already.

[Abigail]

Wait, she's. She's been. Already been executed? No, I was gonna say that doesn't work that fast. No, that's the thing. Yeah.

[Abby]

She's going through all of her appeals.

[Addie]

She's the youngest. Youngest woman on death row in Texas.

[Abigail]

Wow. I mean, that's just such an emotional. Like, of course they're gonna give a really strong. I mean, that's. I have no words. Yeah, I will, literally. And I'm not. Okay. And I just heard you guys retell the story.

[Abby]

I know. Don't watch it. It's.

[Abigail]

That was a sharp turn from dcc, guys.

[Abby]

Wow. Well, we're gonna switch it to Love Island. We'll go down and then up again.

[Addie]

Yes.

[Abby]

But everyone on the Internet is talking about this case. I've seen. I've seen a lot of.

[Abigail]

I've seen zero.

[Addie]

My gosh.

[Abby]

Well, I've seen the most on Tick Tock. I think in my head, I. I understand these people never thought she would, like, murder someone. How do you. A normal mind just doesn't go there. No one would.

[Abigail]

Someone said that they'd be like, come on. Okay.

[Abby]

Literally, she was gonna kill somebody.

[Abigail]

It's not evil.

[Abby]

Right.

[Addie]

Well, she's going to the. There. She's in the hospital with the police officers and she's like, I just had a baby. And the doctor.

[Abby]

Doctor go in and check her.

[Addie]

They made a doctor going and check her. And he's like. Which he shouldn't have said this. This is something I saw. He technically shouldn't be saying what he said because of hipaa. And even though the doctor or like, with the police officers all just standing around, she goes, she didn't have a baby.

[Abby]

Oh, yeah.

[Addie]

She did not just have a baby.

[Abby]

Oh, interesting.

[Addie]

He, like, shouldn't have it like that because, like, he. They need to document that. And then that be the process of it. Because now hipaa, they just told everyone who's around them, yeah, this happened. I don't know.

[Abby]

I don't know.

[Abigail]

Waver. Right.

[Abby]

At that point. She's a prisoner. Writes your waves, I guess. I don't know. It's insane. Like, it was really. It was. I think it's really crazy and hard to think about people just like actually being evil like that. And I know it's true and they exist, but it's just so outside of the realm of. Of the norm.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

It's just hard. Just hard to believe sometimes.

[Abigail]

Did she testify?

[Abby]

They didn't give her a voice.

[Abigail]

Not in the documentary, but in Court, has she testified for herself?

[Abby]

They didn't make it seem like she

[Addie]

did, so they didn't show any of that.

[Abigail]

I'm sure her lawyers are like, don't

[Abby]

need to say anything.

[Addie]

Don't say a word.

[Abigail]

I want to know if she expresses any type of remorse.

[Abby]

Like, it didn't seem like it.

[Addie]

I don't think she thinks.

[Abigail]

I don't think that. That doesn't earn her anything in my mind. But honestly, I'm glad she doesn't like you, actually. I can just say your brain isn't functioning right. I can just say that. And I can not think that that would ever just. Yeah, that is.

[Abby]

That's our. Wow.

[Abigail]

That's crazy, you guys. I like true crime. Gosh, does it feel like true crime

[Abby]

if you know the ending?

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Addie]

That's the best kind of true crime.

[Abigail]

No, a lot of them are like, you know the whole thing.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Abigail]

I'd rather know the whole thing. Like, it says missing.

[Addie]

I don't listen to them.

[Abigail]

It's a little bit like, actually, yeah,

[Abby]

that's Troy never would. I would have, really. If it's an open case, it seems less good.

[Abigail]

Yeah, that's good.

[Abby]

Yeah, they're all bad.

[Addie]

Okay. Well, it's so hard because this is going to be coming out next Friday with so many things. There's going to be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 more episodes by that time. But I will give my update from right here. Right now, we're in the middle.

[Abigail]

Maybe some people are behind listening.

[Addie]

If you're behind, I'm in the middle of Casa Night 2 or 3. They just played the, like game where they had the two. The ratings thing and the Villas were competing against each other. Okay, that's where I'm at, guys.

[Abby]

Is it bad still?

[Addie]

So much kissing, so much making out. I'm also watching uk, so again, I'm comparing it to uk, where it's just so much better. The challenges in UK are like, this person's body count is this. Or this is something this person said as a red flag for them. So challenges where you're learning something about these people and their character rather than

[Abby]

USA that's such, like, an intimate thing to share with the world.

[Abigail]

I thought you were saying that that was, like, less classy.

[Addie]

No, it's better than these slime challenges and make out in the slime pool.

[Abigail]

Do you feel weird watching it with your husband? My brother?

[Addie]

No. Oh, well, those parts, yes.

[Abigail]

I'm like, I have friends, though, that are like, I don't let My husband watch Love island because they are like, boobies out.

[Addie]

I will say, okay, if we're talking about the challenge from last night, so it's Casa Amor, what this means is that the boys all leave the house and go to a different house. And then there's new girls that come in to that house, and there's new boys that go into the other house. They have, like, three nights they're getting to know these people, and then they'll recouple. So they decide. They each decide if they want to stay with their couple they were before or be with a new person.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

But they don't know what's happening in the other villa. They don't know what their couple's doing on the other side. So that's what we're in right now is Casa Amore. This challenge was wild. So they're competing. The villa and casa are competing against each other. They are each couple. Each person spends this little wheel, and then they get a ball that says their action they have to complete. So someone's was dance, someone's is kiss, someone was lick, someone was suck, someone was tickle, tickle. And then they pick who they want to do it with. And then both villas are doing it. And then the judges, what are they judging? Who are these judges?

[Abigail]

I watched one episode. I was like, these challenges are stupid.

[Addie]

Who are the judges? But they're like, they're showing it at the real time of the scales, getting up to whoever wins the challenge. All these girls are, like, dancing and shaking booty and doing all this stuff because they're trying to win this challenge. Yeah, they're doing, like, a lot going on. Their dresses are coming up. You're seeing whole booty cheeks. Your boobs are coming out. They're, like, censored. But it's like, even Blake, which he's a lot of the time, he obviously, he's not watching intently. He's like, oh, my gosh. He never has verbal reactions. He's just like, this is so stupid. He's like, I cannot believe this is happening. Like, that they're showing that much. Like, it was just this love island.

[Abby]

Like a social experiment sometimes. Like, what? How far will people go? Kind of like, how far will people just do what they're told? Kind of. You know what I mean?

[Addie]

Yeah. Maybe because you're like, you maybe don't think. Or they're like these guys who are like, I want to go back to my couple. Or this girl that was like, I know I want to go back to my couple, but they're still making out and doing this in this challenge. Because it's a challenge. You got to do it.

[Abby]

Oh, and they're making out other people even though they have a girlfriend in the house.

[Addie]

Yeah. And they want to go back to that person. They know they're not going to couple

[Abby]

up with one of these people.

[Addie]

Yeah. And then at the end they're like, okay, the last challenge, freestyle. And then everyone goes up and it's just like a big orgy looking thing. Like they're all just making out with each. They're like making out with each other, switching, laying.

[Abby]

And then there are people judging it.

[Addie]

Yeah. The Villa Wand.

[Abby]

What are they judging?

[Addie]

Who knows? Who freaking knows?

[Abby]

That is a crazy show.

[Addie]

So anyone who.

[Abigail]

Will there be a point in which you stop watching?

[Addie]

No.

[Abby]

You hate it, but you're hooked.

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[Abby]

mean, honestly I feel bad for them. They're just doing what they're told.

[Addie]

Yeah. This season isn't. Isn't a hit it for, like, Love Island. I think it's getting ratings, but it's where everyone's like, it's not like the past season. Yeah, I've been like, so much better. So that's my. I guess I said that all the same last time. It just. It's just crazy.

[Abigail]

In the one episode I saw, I was like, they just want to kiss. They don't want to meet. They don't even care to, like, actually even be boyfriend and girlfriend discussing marriage is completely off the table.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

It's so hard sometimes with these shows. I get it. Like, they're in this. This predicament where they feel like they have to keep one upping themselves from the past. And so then things just get crazier and crazier. We talk about that with America's Next Top Model. Like, it just keeps. The snowball just keeps snowballing. And then it. You're like, well, we can't go backwards because then that feels boring compared to what we just did.

[Abigail]

I feel like Love island is the degradation of society. I love hearing you explain it.

[Addie]

Doesn't really match my personality, though.

[Abby]

No, that's why you like it, though.

[Addie]

That's why it is a guilty pleasure.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

I don't really feel bad. Guilty. I do when I'm. When those scenes are happening, but when they're just chatting. Yeah, I don't.

[Abby]

You're like, whatever. Fast forward to the challenges.

[Addie]

Someone. Someone made a TikTok about that. They're like, why are the episodes so short this season? And then it's her fast forwarding to the challenges.

[Abby]

That's how I was. My mom was like, you have to watch Bridgerton. You have to watch Bridgerton.

[Abigail]

Your mom said.

[Abby]

My mom was like, we have to watch.

[Abigail]

I've heard that was very spicy.

[Abby]

Listen, I didn't watch Bridgerton. I fast forwarded through Bridgerton.

[Addie]

That's how. When I was watching Game of Thrones.

[Abby]

Unbelievable.

[Abigail]

Okay, but Game of Thrones is not, like, made to be arousing. Like, it's like there's different.

[Addie]

Is that different?

[Abby]

My mom's like, why are you fast forwarding it? It's so good.

[Addie]

I was like, this is so good.

[Abby]

I don't need to see that full everything.

[Abigail]

My TV update for 10 minutes, I only watched a movie and it was Emperor's new groove.

[Abby]

Hey, was that good? Was it good as an adult?

[Abigail]

It's excellent.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Lines in There.

[Abigail]

They're so good. Yeah, I watched that with the kids in Florida. I need to watch. Matt and I tonight are gonna watch Zendaya and Robert Patterson's Wedding, something.

[Abby]

I watched the Incredibles. It was like Cloud. That's an incredible. No pun intended. Incredible movie for an adult, too.

[Abigail]

The first or the second?

[Abby]

The first one I haven't. Yeah, we. I just rewatched it for the first time with cj. He's really into it, and I was like, wow. They. The characters are so relatable.

[Abigail]

And Emperor's New Groove, I was reminded, has MSU alum John Goodman.

[Abby]

John Goodman.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

That's good.

[Addie]

The drama, the drama. I want to hear your recap.

[Abigail]

I'm excited to watch it. I know nothing about it. I just know that I really like Zendaya. I just really. I'm a huge fan of her.

[Abby]

If it's good, let me know.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

What's it on?

[Addie]

I don't know what it's on.

[Abigail]

You have to get. You have to buy it. We already looked into this because we know that the kids are gonna be with.

[Abby]

It was in the theater.

[Abigail]

They're going to. The. Are going to Toy Story with my parents, and we are like, we are going to watch a movie.

[Abby]

Oh, my gosh. Fun.

[Abigail]

And so we were like, we need to know the movie right now and then get to business. But you have to get it off of either, like, YouTube or Google.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Like, but it is streaming.

[Addie]

It's on. It's on Apple tv.

[Abigail]

Oh. Oh, it is.

[Abby]

I thought you were going to have

[Addie]

to buy Amazon Prime.

[Abby]

Save them pennies. Well, I feel like you've been watching so much tv, Addie.

[Abigail]

Time to finally share why I'm pregnant.

[Addie]

The birth control episode was a hoot.

[Abby]

She's like, I can't talk too much

[Addie]

about that when we have our second one yet. So. Yes.

[Abby]

How you feel? How far along are you now? At this point?

[Addie]

I'm 14 and a half weeks. Right now is time of recording. So in the second trimester. Feeling good now?

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

First trimester was rough, but not as bad as Brielle. Like, it was way better. I was able to work out this time. I had more nighttime nausea in my first trimester than morning nausea.

[Abigail]

Oh, interesting.

[Abby]

So I know you missed a lot of family, like, dinners and stuff.

[Addie]

Yeah. I was like, I can't go anywhere, even, like, recording.

[Abby]

I remember you'd get sick.

[Addie]

Oh, I was getting sick.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

I was like, hannah, can you please

[Abigail]

give me a snack?

[Addie]

Shout out to Hannah two feet from you. Literally she's two feet from me.

[Abby]

I'm like, texting her. Can you please give me one?

[Addie]

No. I've been feeling good now. I got my energy back now, which is great.

[Abigail]

Yeah, it's a great feeling.

[Addie]

So New York was a rough one for me.

[Abigail]

That was the worst timing.

[Abby]

That was really bad. Addy was sick. The whole, like, sound. Nauseous.

[Addie]

I was basically every single time we got in the car. So that was a rough time. But other than that, it was fun. But trying to eat the food and stuff.

[Abby]

Addy, I felt so bad for you when I went to that good y eat, like, fancy restaurant, so everything was just odd.

[Addie]

Can I tell you I have an aversion to ground beef right now?

[Abby]

Oh, really?

[Abigail]

Because of that restaurant?

[Addie]

I think it's probably not because of that restaurant, but I didn't eat that burger. And that's when it started. I realized I was like, I don't want burgers. It's mostly specifically burgers.

[Abby]

Interesting.

[Addie]

But ground beef aversion.

[Abby]

You missed out on a really good burger. I will say

[Abigail]

salmon is crazy that you still wanted to eat that.

[Addie]

That. I know I haven't eaten salmon since, and it doesn't sound good, but that one looks.

[Abigail]

You were like. I was so hungry.

[Addie]

I was like, I need to eat something.

[Abby]

So nausea and, like, food aversion is probably your biggest symptoms.

[Addie]

Yeah. I've started getting headaches now.

[Abigail]

That's the time that it happens.

[Addie]

So I'm wondering. I'm like, do I do get some iron?

[Abigail]

Magnesium.

[Addie]

Magnesium. I do have magnesium. I should do that. Getting some headaches near the. Near the end of the day, but. But I'm starting to feel better. It's gone by way faster now that I've had one. I have one kid to take care of. It's just. I'm not checking my app every day like I did the first time around.

[Abby]

Totally.

[Addie]

And it's just kind of flown by being here in the second trimester. But I'm also like, wow, there's still a long time to get.

[Abby]

Yeah, I know.

[Addie]

Yeah. It's exciting.

[Abby]

It's a long game. It's a marathon.

[Abigail]

We found out before your husband.

[Addie]

Yes, that is. There is a very, very.

[Abigail]

I can't keep my mouth, apparently.

[Addie]

Well, no, it wasn't that.

[Abby]

You said anything.

[Abigail]

No, I did. Well, I didn't spill it, but I feel like I should have. Here. Okay, here's what happened. So the morning that Addie, like, literally took the test, Blake's at work, and we were doing something for always here and I. We went to post something.

[Abby]

We just finished recording. You were filming.

[Addie]

Like, you were filming funny TikTok always here was on or the event was on that Saturday.

[Abby]

Always. Right.

[Addie]

And so I was like, use my phone and post on the always here your story.

[Abigail]

And I went to go tap to, like, post a story, and it was literally just a picture of a positive pregnancy test.

[Abby]

I didn't even see it. You saw it.

[Abigail]

I saw it the first time, and I was like, no, I didn't even think. It was just, like, a flashing thought. And then when I saw it the second time, I was like, I literally just, like, regurgitated. I was like, are you pregnant? And then I was like, in hindsight, I really wish I would have just been like, pulled you aside separately. I probably would have still said something to you.

[Abby]

You were shocked. You go, and are you pregnant?

[Abigail]

No, I was shocked.

[Addie]

You're shocked.

[Abby]

It was just a true reaction.

[Abigail]

It was a true reaction.

[Abby]

And I go, huh?

[Abigail]

And then I was like, what? And then I was the other room, and Matt's like, what?

[Addie]

Matt? Matt thought I was announcing it to you guys. And I'm like, he comes in recording.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

We're all like, huh. And now he's like, no one knows. We should post a video. Because I think Matt did have that video.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Yeah, we should post a video.

[Abigail]

I feel like my reaction was not good, though. So I always get really. What's the word? Insecure. When I'm like, my. I'm reacting to something because I feel like sometimes I'm like, my face is not showing what I'm, like, feeling. I was just kind of like, what?

[Addie]

No, it was pure shock for you and me.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Because here's the thing is, I also never give you guys my personal phone to record on. I always give you my work phone. And it wouldn't have been on there, but this time I was like, just go. Just do it. There you go.

[Abby]

It's meant to be.

[Addie]

I know. So it was really funny. I had to tell, obviously. Once I told Blake, I was like, like, so, Abigail, Abby, Hannah and Matt.

[Abigail]

No, I was worried I was gonna tell my mom.

[Abby]

I did tell my mom, and I was like, wait, you can't. Why did I tell you that? You can't tell anybody because my mom was saying off Lori, and you weren't telling Lori yet. So I was like, I shouldn't have told you that.

[Addie]

Oh.

[Abby]

But she kept it a secret.

[Addie]

She did. She did.

[Abby]

Yeah, she did. I felt bad.

[Addie]

No, I. I didn't even know she knew. So it wasn't that until I knew a little bit afterwards. But no, that was really fun. And then telling Blake was funny because. And I. I got no one's reactions on video. I just kind of. It was really fun to just be in the moment this time and not really record anything. I did set up my phone to record Blake and then it fell. So I do have the audio.

[Abigail]

Hi, Amy.

[Abby]

I was like, show me the video.

[Abigail]

And I was just like fell right away.

[Addie]

And so I also.

[Abigail]

Blake's reaction is underwhelmingly.

[Addie]

Yeah, it doesn't need to be posted.

[Abigail]

We love him so much.

[Abby]

Yeah, we do.

[Addie]

We do.

[Abby]

Keep steady.

[Addie]

Yes, he is steady. So I went to Target on my way to record and I was like, let's see if I can find a onesie that says big sister. When you're looking for a six month old one.

[Abigail]

I'm telling you, it is hard.

[Addie]

There is not going to be one that says. It all says little sister, little sis. So I found one that said sisters club. Cute, cute Sister club.

[Abby]

It was a really cute outfit.

[Addie]

And so then I. I got that, brought it home and then I put the pregnancy test out there and I was like, we had photos that night. I had mommy, me, mommy and me photos. And so I was like, blake, can you please get Brielle dressed so that I can go and finish getting ready? And he goes in there and he looks at it and he goes, this isn't yours, is it? I'm like, just collecting them. Who else's could it be?

[Abby]

No, it's yours.

[Addie]

I was like, yeah, it is. He goes, wow.

[Abby]

Aw, that's funny. She's like letting it so good.

[Addie]

I was like, you know how this happened?

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Like, dude, it's crazy. It's coming. So it is funny because I do have a text. Cause I. Here's the thing. I wanted to be pregnant. We can just get that out there.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

You guys are planning.

[Addie]

We have talked about the gap where you're like six to eight months. You're like, I need a new baby. Not a new baby. I need a baby.

[Abigail]

You don't edit that.

[Addie]

I love Brielle. Give me. Get that out of here.

[Abby]

We're getting the old one.

[Abigail]

We need a new one. Get out of here.

[Addie]

The six to eight, like months were you like, I want another baby. I stopped breastfeeding or I. Brielle was sleeping through the night at that point. I was weaning breastfeeding. Next step was just get pregnant, of course.

[Abby]

One, two, three.

[Addie]

And I had texted Blake, like, had it Been that week. Must have been because I knew I was ovulating properly. I was like, you want a mid December baby? He never replied to my text.

[Abby]

He didn't respond, but he showed up. So he never responded to your text? He didn't need to respond. He said, that says a lot about

[Abigail]

your grandma's communication style.

[Abby]

He said, I'll see you at lunch.

[Addie]

We just text a lot. So that was funny. But, yeah, it was another. We were very lucky. First. First time. We weren't trying. We were. Because we did it unprotected, but we weren't, like, intentionally like, we want to start for a baby right now and work towards that, so. But they'll be 16 months apart.

[Abigail]

Well, it sounds like you were tracking ovulation and everything.

[Addie]

Yeah, I wasn't tracking ovulation. I just noticed some changes in my body, so I knew I was.

[Abby]

You knew it was happening?

[Addie]

Yeah, that's mostly how I knew.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Because I hadn't been tracking at that point. Well, praise God. Yeah. So it was. It all lined up pretty well.

[Abby]

Another blessing.

[Abigail]

I know. Christmas baby.

[Addie]

Christmas baby. Which I'm kind of excited about. But also it's like, okay, I want this baby to come on its due date or before. Because I'm like, then we're getting too close to Christmas.

[Abby]

What is. Are you saying the due date?

[Addie]

I don't care. It's December 19th. So very close to Christmas.

[Abby]

Well, Brielle was the day after her due date.

[Addie]

Three days after.

[Abby]

Three days after. Due date.

[Addie]

Second. Maybe a little early.

[Abby]

Yeah, it'll be fine.

[Addie]

So. Well, it's funny because I'm thinking about that, too. I guess Brielle's not the same way. My birthday is very close to Valentine's Day, and we learned this year because it's the first year, which we already knew this because of Matt, but Blake's birthday is also very close to Father's Day.

[Abigail]

Oh, crap.

[Abby]

Holiday.

[Abigail]

I just realized I never told Blake happy birthday.

[Abby]

Your brother.

[Abigail]

Yes.

[Addie]

Shoot.

[Abby]

Did you know that, Addie?

[Addie]

No.

[Abby]

Shoot. You better throw him up for you.

[Addie]

When you have two people on the same day, it makes it a little hard.

[Abigail]

I'm so focused on that.

[Addie]

Oh, no.

[Abigail]

Okay, I gotta call to make after this.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Should I call him right now?

[Addie]

You could call him right now on the podcast. He'll answer because you're calling.

[Abigail]

Will he, though?

[Addie]

I think so. Hello?

[Abigail]

Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday, dear Blakey Happy birthday

[Addie]

to you

[Abby]

thank you.

[Abigail]

I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'll call you back later and actually do something for you. I don't know literally what is wrong with me? I'm really sorry I missed your birthday, but just a few days. Did you have a good one?

[Addie]

There's a couple birthdays on that day, so it's understandable.

[Abigail]

Okay, well, we'll have to do something in hindsight because your sister's a dummy.

[Abby]

I didn't think anything of it, honestly.

[Abigail]

Really. Okay. Apparently I've. I failed many birthdays then. Well, sorry. I hope you had a good day.

[Addie]

Okay.

[Abby]

Thank you. I did.

[Abigail]

Okay. Love you.

[Addie]

Love you. Bye.

[Abigail]

Bye.

[Abby]

Oh, that's really so sweet. I love. They made you finish the song. He's just like, let her go.

[Addie]

He surely knows we're recording.

[Abigail]

But here's the thing about it, is that I'm like, how bad am I at birthday is that he didn't even think anything of it.

[Addie]

Well, your grandma also didn't text him. She just sent him a Venmo.

[Abigail]

That's so her. That's so hurt. What were we talking about?

[Abby]

You were tracking your ovulation. What were we talking about?

[Addie]

Oh, I was saying

[Abby]

holiday babies.

[Addie]

We're all holidays except for Brielle. But she's. Her holidays around her is birthdays. Everyone's birthdays.

[Abby]

She's just in birthday month.

[Addie]

She's a birthday month with everyone else.

[Abby]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So August baby.

[Addie]

August baby.

[Abby]

So that'd be a good different distance between her birthday and this next baby's birthday.

[Addie]

Yeah. I also. I kind of wanted a winter. Wintery.

[Abby]

Yeah. Get one season.

[Addie]

I want a different season. And so it did mess up our timeline of we were wanting to buy a house this year.

[Abby]

Oh, yeah.

[Addie]

And we wanted to do it in December to like hopefully line up. I don't know how everyone does it with having an apartment lease and then trying to buy a house and not wanting to have to pay your apartment rent and your start paying all for your house and your mortgage and stuff.

[Abby]

Yeah. Well, no, you don't pay your mortgage for like the first two or three months. Oh, you buy a house.

[Addie]

Good to know. Well, all the closing fees and stuff like that. But that is. Wait, that's good to know.

[Abby]

No, yeah, you actually. Because we were worried about that too. And we bought our house. Like we closed in May and we didn't move out until June. We didn't pay our first mortgage until July.

[Addie]

Good to know.

[Abby]

So, yeah, you have a little bit of buffer now.

[Addie]

We can buy a house.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

So we're going on vacation next month and we're gonna start looking after that. So that's, like, exciting but also stressful.

[Abby]

Yeah. And you'll be very. Being very pregnant, but also it might put you into labor, so who cares?

[Addie]

Yeah. Just keep moving.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

And the nesting, like, the. The nesting feeling, or like, moving into a house where I'm like, I want to. To organize it all might be good. Or I'm gonna be.

[Abby]

No, it'll be the worst thing that you do, but you'll be happy to do it later. Yeah. You know what I mean? You'll be in it. You're like, this was a horrible idea, but I'm glad we did it. You know, It'd be one of those things. We moved when I was nine months pregnant with C.J. well, Caleb moved us. I didn't really do anything.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

That was also just a stressful time.

[Addie]

But did you guys move yourselves, or did you get moved?

[Abby]

No, we had a lot of friends help us.

[Addie]

Oh, okay.

[Abby]

But, yeah, I know. Like, movers.

[Addie]

We're gonna.

[Abby]

No money pay for movers, because that's better.

[Addie]

We had movers when we moved from our other apartment to this apartment. We also live on the third floor of an apartment complex with no elevators.

[Abby]

Okay.

[Addie]

And really narrow stairways.

[Abby]

I know it. Yeah, they're narrow.

[Addie]

So we're gonna. We're gonna pay for movers to do that.

[Abigail]

For Midas.

[Addie]

We are gonna use Midas.

[Abigail]

They're the best.

[Addie]

They're the best. They're great. Great. So nice.

[Abby]

That's a good plan.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Yeah. So that'll. So you're still gonna keep your timeline then for the house?

[Addie]

We are moving up the time. Like, we're gonna start. Start, like, the whole process of, like, starting to talk to a realtor and maybe look at houses in August so we can have a little bit more time and hopefully be. Have a house moved in, feel settled by December idea.

[Abigail]

Because sometimes things just don't.

[Addie]

Exactly. And so we're willing to, like, have to pay extra and rent or close our lease early and do those fees and stuff like that. So we just want to have enough time to get with one and not have to, like, rush through that process either.

[Abby]

For sure.

[Abigail]

It's a big.

[Addie]

It's a big commitment.

[Abigail]

A huge deal.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

The. One of the most stressful things you'll do.

[Addie]

Yeah. So. But it's exciting. We. I'm so excited. It's weird to, like, maybe you felt this way with CJ because. Did you guys know you were gonna buy a house before you had cj?

[Abby]

We bought the house a Year after CJ was born.

[Addie]

Oh, okay.

[Abby]

So we moved, we downsized from that rental house that we had that stored our. That stored bowl into a small apartment.

[Addie]

And you are. Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

So we went from 3,000 square feet to like 11.

[Addie]

So. And then you had CJ at the.

[Abby]

the apartment. And we were in the apartment for one year and then we bought a house. I prefer that one year lease.

[Addie]

So, like the thing. I'm. I'm a planner, type A. I can't picture what things are gonna look like right now because I don't know where we're gonna be. So I'm like. It's really weird because, like, when we had Brielle, when I was pregnant with Brielle, I was like, okay, this room is gonna be her room. And we can start thinking and thinking about it and doing these things. I'm like, I have no idea where we're gonna be, so I don't know what it's gonna look like. And so that's a weird feeling to feel. But it's normal, obviously. Yeah, it's normal.

[Abigail]

It's twice when I was pregnant with Griffin.

[Addie]

Okay, so you're like, I don't know where we're gonna be.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Okay. You guys were in that studio and you moved into your house. Yeah.

[Addie]

That's so cute.

[Abby]

Yeah, it is hard to picture, especially when you are like a planner. But it's one of those things where you have to remind yourself it's an exciting unknown cause it's so fun though, when you find your house and you move in and you get to make the space your own. So you just have to keep reminding yourself even when you feel stressed or overwhelmed. I can't nest and prepare the way that I would want to. You just had to remind yourself it'll be worth it in the long run. You just have to come back to that.

[Addie]

No, I'm so excited to be in a house, so it, like, makes me really excited.

[Abby]

Yeah. So your bedroom apartment's two bedrooms. Right. So you have to move out anyway.

[Addie]

We have to move out? Yeah. Yeah. In our brain, like, we. It's just something that we know we want to do anyway.

[Abby]

Yeah, for sure.

[Addie]

Yeah. I think we were going to try and move out even if we didn't have another baby on the way.

[Abby]

Anyway, so are you guys both nesting like crazy? I mean, I guess you're not going to be.

[Addie]

I'm not there.

[Abby]

You're not going to be nesting. Yeah.

[Abigail]

You need to worry because I have done nothing.

[Addie]

And see, that stresses me really well, when I walk into your mud room, I'm like, stressful.

[Abby]

I need to go in there. Is it crazy? It's really.

[Addie]

It's all just stacked, but I'm organized. But let's put it away. Yeah, let's help you.

[Abby]

It's like, put it away.

[Abigail]

There's no place to put it. I don't know what to do.

[Abby]

It's. That is okay. I. I remember with cj, the whole time I was like, second baby, who cares? Like, I know what to do. Been there, done that. I don't need to prepare. And then I went in and at my 37 week appointment, and she was like, you're 2 centimeters dilated in like 50 of face. And I was like, I need to prepare.

[Abigail]

I need to prepare.

[Abby]

And then it, like, freaked out. And then it's like, okay, all the bottles, everything. So do you feel like you're there?

[Abigail]

Have you been like, I'm freaked out?

[Abby]

Yeah. Like, need to prepare or are you.

[Abigail]

It does bother me. But then I'm like, there's just so much going on that I'm like, by the end of the day, I'm like, am I gonna really just start this project right now?

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

So I have kind of just been like, trying to think of a way, and now I have a week set aside in my brain where I'm like, I'm probably gonna work two days and then three days have nesting and then my friends will, like, so many people have offered, which is so nice. And it's one of those things where it's like, yes, I would love to accept your help. That is so nice. Also, we were talking about. This is just a side note, but you know how, like, all of our friends are very, like, hands on, like, let me enter your space and enter your world and help you out. Like, yeah. And then. But that also requires on you to, like, accept it. And I feel like me, I'm like, yes, thank you so much. Sometimes I do feel a little guilty. Like, I'm like, no, somebody else, somebody else. Like, we have been so blessed like, somebody else. But we have one of our friends that is like. She's like, I absolutely. She was like, it's my toxic trait. I know I can't accept any help. And we're like, no. And then one of our friends goes, why are you so mean to us Watching her son?

[Abby]

And she.

[Abigail]

She literally goes, why are you so mean to.

[Abby]

Yeah, you're depriving us of the joy of helping.

[Abigail]

She started being an honor to, like, you know, be trusted in that way and to, like, just, like, be so close to people.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

And so I think about that a lot. I'm like, no, Abby, it's fine. It's just great. And so, anyway, so those, like, other three days, I. The. The goal, which this has happened before, and it didn't work out, so I'm like, it could get derailed. Is just knock it all out that day. And honestly, the things that are stressing me out the most are not things at all related to the baby. It's literally all things related to, like, getting other systems in place in my house. Then when I'm like, I don't have the capacity for that. Like, it'll just, like, it'll be easy, smoothly, and I can just focus on. Yeah, but it's really. It's not in good shape right now. I mean, here's the thing. I have myself to directly compare, because I have a friend that is due literally on the same day, and she's a very type A, and she has this beautiful nursery, and it's, like, all completely ready. Like, it's gorgeous. Yeah.

[Abby]

And I'm like, hmm, I'm not there yet.

[Abigail]

I don't think this baby is gonna have a nursery.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

And so I'm like, that's. I think he'll probably just sleep with us until he moves into the room with his brothers. Like, I don't know. Like, that's just kind of like what we've just been talking about right now. It feels so hard to wrap our head around, honestly. Even though it's our third, I'm kind of just like, what do we do?

[Abby]

Yeah. I mean, he'll be in your room for at least three months.

[Abigail]

Yeah. I mean, we had both of the boys in our room until, like, nine or ten months.

[Abby]

Really?

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Did you just put the crib in your room?

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Oh, okay. See that? We didn't have room for a crib, so it was like, once the bassinet outgrew.

[Abigail]

Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

There was no option.

[Abigail]

Also, we kept them in a bow snap for a really long time.

[Abby]

Yeah. Okay.

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[Abby]

You just need to make it a YouTube video and then like, you have to do it. That's what I did. I was like, I have to nest, I have to prepare. And if I have to like schedule into my work hours to make it my work time, then that's what I'll do. It's a good idea because you already have your work time scheduled. And so it's like this day, I'm making content, I'm cleaning my house.

[Abigail]

I know. I feel, I do feel like I have to shuttle my kids out.

[Abby]

Yeah, you do.

[Abigail]

Like, you got to get out.

[Abby]

No, see, they had to be gone. I had to do it during nap time. It was like my linen closet was driving me nuts. I was like, I have to do this before baby comes. Which doesn't make sense. But it's like, oh.

[Abigail]

I mean, I have a pantry. I'm like, if I even baby, you

[Abby]

don't have to be wrestling your sheets. Like, I need things to be smooth and organized because I'm not going to clean it for at least four more months.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

So I get it. You got to get it. You got to do it.

[Abigail]

I haven't. Yeah. This, this is my Gadget pregnancy or my gadget newborn stage. Because the other times we didn't really get of those, like, convenience items. Baby items.

[Abby]

This Time. I'm like, I'm gonna get the convenience items.

[Abigail]

I got a mini fridge yesterday on prime day deals.

[Abby]

Nice.

[Abigail]

I got. Okay, we got. We're just gonna make it just as convenient as possible. Because I'm like, I already know that. I feel like I was overly confident going from one to two. And then I was like, looking back more on that transition. I was like, man, that was just so much more humbling than I really gave it credit for. And that's where I actually. We should talk about, like, the transitions from kids.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Because I've always said zero to one was the hardest. But I mean that in a different way in the sense of like, I might actually think one to two was the hardest. But. But here's what I mean. And we were talking about this with our friends that just had a third baby because I've been like picking everyone's brains because I'm like, tell me what it's like. Like, what should I expect? What should I like? Tell me about what your experience is. And the way they described it, I think was really well done because I was like, okay, I relate to that so much. 0 to 1 was hard because that's an identity shift. You are mom now. You are becoming a mom. Your husband is becoming a dad for the first time ever. That's a big identity shift. But the thing about one to two is that it's. But with one, you're kind of tag teaming. You're working as a team, but one of you is kind of like off and one's on because you've got one kid.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

The difference between that and then 1 to 2 is that then you're both like fully on.

[Abby]

Your capacity has to grow so much with a second.

[Abigail]

So much. Yeah, you've already done the identity shift. But then the capacity thing and then the like, how do we both be on 100% at 100 of the time? And I think that that was more of like a shocker. Like, in hindsight, I was like, that was really difficult.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

And I didn't give it the. I think that what was really shocking for me the first time was identity shift. And then. But you've already made the change. I was like, I've already made the change. I know nap time, I know the schedules. Like, I know everything. But then it was just the capacity shift with between 1 to 2 was really, really surprising. That's a good way of saying it.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

But then they were saying like two to three. You've already made the identity shift. You've already Stretched your capacity, and now you know how to work as a team really well, and you're just kind of like, you've got the teamwork down. So they said that 2 to 3 was really actually fairly easy for them.

[Abby]

Wow. Good. And I feel like they've done it so gracefully. Seriously, I'm like, wow, Wait, did you guys have a baby?

[Abigail]

They've been very reassuring, which I'm like, that's so nice. Because they're like. They're like, no. They're like, it's so much easier. It's so much easier. And I was like, that's really good to hear. But yeah, I've just been reflecting a lot on, like, what transitions. And also, I do think age gaps play a big role in this conversation too.

[Abby]

But even I thought one to two was really hard, and they have a bigger age gap than what, like, Griffin and Augie have. I was really surprised, and maybe it's good to hear this, Addy, to, like, mentally prepare.

[Addie]

I'll say, like, the. The things that I'm thinking of that are, like, not stressing me out, but I feel like that I'm not gonna understand or adapt to it or, like, that's gonna take me a minute. Is nap time. Like, when Brielle naps, I'm free to do what I need to do. There's gonna be another baby that's not gonna nap at the same exact times every single day. And you'll figure that out at some point. They'll go. Maybe go to the same nap time. I don't know. I mean, when there's one baby that only takes one nap a day and there's gonna be another baby that takes four naps.

[Abby]

No, I'm telling you, Addy, they always take a nap at the same time.

[Addie]

I don't.

[Abby]

Well, here's the thing.

[Addie]

I think Brielle could be on a one nap schedule right now. Like, I think she could do it. I don't want to do that. No, I want. I'm keeping her on a two nap schedule because I want those longer chunks of time to, like, do, because she still takes two hour naps if I let her. And so that I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about morning routines of I get up, I get Brielle ready, I get her, we go to the gym. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to take care of baby. Blake's gonna need to get Brielle up. Blake's gonna need to do, like. I feel like it might be a bigger load on Blake like with the second, like having a second baby of being like, I actually can't do all these things anymore. Like, I need you to step in here. Which he will very gracefully do. I just, I do it right now. I'm a morning gal, so I'm like, I'll take care of Brielle, you sleep in. I don't care. So those are the things I'm thinking of right now.

[Abby]

Yeah, I feel like it's. When you're nursing, it's so much. I, I had a really hard time balancing the nursing with two because, yeah, it's like every two hours you have to stop what you're doing and sit. But your toddler wants to keep going and your day keeps going, your schedule keeps going. And I felt really overwhelmed by like the capacity of. Not the capacity. I felt really overwhelmed by the schedule of nursing and then just work and toddler and family and just normal day to day life things now. I feel I've like, it's grown. I've. I've stretched it. I like come into it. I feel way more confident, way more smooth. I'm at nine months. I think at six months there was a huge shift for me mentally too. Like the brain fog lifted. I felt like my mind was working again and I, I could manage the scheduling a little bit better. But those first six months were really, really tough for me. I felt very overwhelmed. I think that was what shocked me the Most, going from 0 or from 1 to 2 was that I was really prepared for CJ to feel jealous and like upset and not understand the attention. I felt really sad that I physically felt like I could not take care of C.J. and that baby at the same time.

[Abigail]

I felt that so much. And the guilt that came with that, like, especially because Augie was a C section. I just remember feeling for so long, I was like, how irresponsible of me. I made these children. I, like one of these children, chose to have these children. And I literally can't do it by myself. Do it by myself. And I, like, it makes me sad really to think about because I was like, I think I lacked a lot of confidence that I thought that I had. It was like a really humbling time. Like I was like super humbling. Oh my gosh. I like need Matt. I need my mom. I need like all these other things. And I don't know, I think as a mom, not feeling self sufficient is like probably one of the most scary things. And some of the other challenges I remember was like, just the logistics of loading the Kids up and out of the car, like, leaving the house and being out and about and just like the. For the first time, not having just like my eyes on one. And then this was also the same time that, like, my oldest was just starting to walk and he would like, ghost on my, like, oh my gosh, the baby's crying. Like, I just felt like I was like, I can't split my brain. Like, I just remember that being like, how do people do this? Like, how do people do this, let alone go on to have more? Like, I remember just being like, this is just impossible. But like I said, your capacity does grow. But those earlier days, I like, have to remind myself, I was like, that was, that was tough. And that was a time where I was just lacking. I just felt a lot of shame, honestly, like, and I was so enjoying both my kids, but I just feel like it was hard to even feel that at that point because I felt like I was letting them down. And I think that's a common thing. I wasn't letting them down. I was just learning and everyone was just learning. And it's a growth period. But like, that was really. Because I just remember with my first, I was like, oh my gosh, it's so quiet. Like, he's just napping. And then I got to like, clean the house. And like, it was just a very different experience. And then the other thing that surprised me was, though, it's one thing to be waking up with one kid, it's another thing to be waking up with two. And usually one is a better sleeper than the other. But there's times where your oldest will just humble you or your good sleeper will humble you. And I was like, wow, this is double the wake ups of last time. I'm really shocked by that. And the other thing I thought about was sicknesses. So, like, that's why when, like, someone would get sick, I was like, oh, great, now one kid is sick and then he'll be sick and then the next kid will get sick and then we'll get sick and then my husband will get sick. And then it's been a month and then that takes. So. And then it's like, okay, well, I really think that this kid needs to get out of the house. And this kid is contagious at this point probably. So we're all stuck here and we're all going crazy right now. And then just the, the, the ripple effect that that would cause was, like, surprising for me.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Toddler and baby.

[Abby]

Yeah, I felt the same. I. Yeah, I think I was just really shocked. I was so humbled. But I also am like, I think there's times in our life where the Lord is like, you need to accept help and you need help. Like, I think we have to be reminded that we can't do things on our own.

[Abigail]

Yeah, that's true.

[Abby]

And that's a good thing. Like, we're supposed to remember that we are not so. Like, we're not supposed to be self sufficient. Like, we're supposed to, you know, I believe I'm supposed to rely on the Lord. And so it's like, okay, then this is a good season in my life to humble me and remind me that I can't do it all.

[Abigail]

Totally.

[Abby]

It's good. It stretched me, it grew me, it humbled me, it shaped me. It made me a better person and a better mom. And, like, you'll get through it. It's just. It is really hard. And I think I didn't mentally prepare for that.

[Abigail]

Oh, yeah.

[Abby]

I was like, I got this. It's another baby. And then I was like, oh, my gosh.

[Abigail]

I will say on this side of things now, with two toddlers, I think having two is way easier than having one.

[Abby]

Yes. I can't now that Vivian's like, it takes a while.

[Abigail]

It takes a while. And I remember just thinking like, they. Everyone has said this. They're gonna be just such good buddies. And I was like, it's a potato and crazy. Just baby toddler right here. And then what? All of a sudden they were like, playing and entertaining each other. And like, even today, like, they're like looking for each other because they had a whole play place of kids to play with, but they wanted to play with each other. And I was like, this is so sweet.

[Abby]

I know.

[Abigail]

Good.

[Abby]

You think about. It's like in the grand scheme of our life, a really hard six months is like a blink of an eye. And so once you're, you know, you just have to keep that in perspective of like, the long term game. Of like, we want our kids to have friends and siblings and like, we want big families. So you just have to think, okay, I'm gonna have a hard six months and then we're done. And then we get to enjoy the rest of our life.

[Abigail]

I feel like people also, I didn't have a lot of mom friends that had two at the time.

[Addie]

Time.

[Abigail]

Because we got pregnant so quick that I was like, really unprepared. So I say this to just honestly have healthy expectations. So then if anything, you're like, this was easier it was so dramatic.

[Addie]

And, I mean, I even felt that way when I had Brielle. I. I felt like it was easier. I mean, we got to a point where I was like, oh, it's tough now, but, like, no one kind of. I mean, if you have a decent, decent baby. That sounds bad to say, but I'm like, those first two weeks can actually be like. Like, pretty chill and easy. They just sleep and eat and they're not crying. Like, Brielle didn't cry that much. She just woke up, slept, and ate. So those first two weeks, I was like, guys, this is easy. What do you mean? And then they wake up and you're like, okay, this is big. This is it. But no, I think that's. I'm picturing the first five months being tough because my mom will be here for a little bit of it, but she doesn't retire. She's retiring in May. So I'm just. The whole time, I'll be like, mom, retire already. Please come. Please come. But I think I'm just thinking of, like, the working full time and having two kids and being like, okay, I can probably have one with me. I can have the baby with me and make this work, but I can't also entertain Brielle and make that work too. So I'm like, k, have her with the sitter, which she loves, and, like, figuring out logistics of like. Like, that seems mean. Ship one kid off with a sitter and keep one, you know? But you're like, logistically, you're just doing what works for your family and they don't.

[Abigail]

Short season. If you're nursing too, it's like kind of the.

[Addie]

That is another thing that you were talking about. I was just, like, thinking about nursing for 20 minutes and Brielle, like, crawling and walking around.

[Abigail]

Oh, 40.

[Addie]

No, I guess I did 15 per side. So 30.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

But I'm like, having her just not me. Just have to hope she doesn't get into anything.

[Abby]

You know what? They adapt quickly.

[Addie]

She could sit next to me. She loves babies. The kids are so. Audrey. Well, here's the other thing.

[Abigail]

My kids are sick and crazy.

[Abby]

You're like, sit next to me and hold my hand.

[Abigail]

I think my kids. It's like I give them an instant take a mile. I'm like, like, what are you doing? I'm just picturing still. They're almost three and four. I feel like I can't shower. Yeah. Like, we have. I feel like I have to have eyes on them because I'm like, I don't Know what you're gonna do.

[Abby]

Yeah, bro.

[Addie]

Would be playing in the dog bowl at that point. Like, she would just be. If I look away for two seconds, she's got her hands in the dog bowl.

[Abby]

I'm like, but, Yale, be in your new house, and you'll know what to hide away.

[Addie]

Exactly. That's the thing is, I'm like. Someone asked me the other day, they're like, like, how. What are you doing with baby proofing? I'm like, I'm not gonna be here very long. Much longer. I'm not doing much. I. When I need to, I set chairs in front of the dog bowls, and I have outlet covers. Yeah. If she bolts her head.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

I comfort her. That is it.

[Abby]

You know, you can get. You can get one of those, like, baby playpen that's gonna stick down.

[Addie]

See, that's what I'm thinking for when we have a house, like, we don't have room for that at this point.

[Abby]

You'll have, like, a baby, say, safe room.

[Addie]

Yes.

[Abby]

Her bedroom. And you'll just have all of her toys in there. And when you need a nurse to just pop her in there, you'll put. You'll have a chair in there. Maybe you can nurse and she can play.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

One more memory I have of the early days of having two under two was the car rides. That screaming that for some reason actually, like, gave me real anxiety was when they were both crying in the car. I was like, we didn't really experience that.

[Abby]

That too much.

[Abigail]

Our babies.

[Abby]

The both of them have been, like, great in the car.

[Abigail]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Addie]

Brielle did not like the car as a kid as, like, a baby for, like, the first, like, two months. And so that was really hard.

[Abby]

I feel like some babies do really hate the doona. Really?

[Abigail]

I feel like it was just whenever our car stopped, it was, like, screaming from Augie, and then it would make my, like, the oldest upset.

[Addie]

I'm curious to see how that's gonna be, like, how Brielle reacts to other.

[Abigail]

Because now I've been able to have a lot of conversations with Griffin and Augie. I always tell them. I'm like. Like, babies can't talk. So crying is how they talk to us. And we, like, talk about. And I'm, like, talk about things that they can do to help if he's, like, crying. But when Griffin was 13 months old, like, you can't explain that.

[Abby]

There was a time where I was like, T.J. do you hear her crying? Because he never reacted. I was like, do you hear that? Are you okay?

[Abigail]

He didn't care at all.

[Abby]

It didn't bother him. So Brielle might not care.

[Addie]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Abigail]

I was like, I feel like she doesn't care about Buddy. She bothered him either. It's just like.

[Addie]

He was also sad.

[Abigail]

He was also sad for some other

[Abby]

reason in the car. Hey.

[Addie]

I don't know. He is an empath. He could be. He really is.

[Abigail]

You guys. You guys, I actually. This was really sweet. He was watching. What was he watching recently? Gosh, I can't remember. My brain is simply not working. But he. He, like, I could tell that he was really sad. I think it was like a little kids movie. And he was like, would it be really sad if something happened to daddy?

[Abby]

And I was like, oh, shoot. Yeah.

[Abigail]

I was like, that would be really sad.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

And he's like, would it be really sad if something happened to. To mommy? And then he just, like, started really.

[Abby]

Just, like, really dooms thinking. Yeah.

[Abigail]

Which then I thought about. I was like, a lot of Disney movies have really sad elements, but I feel like before, he wasn't, like, necessarily thinking about or if he was thinking about. It was like, in their world. Now he's like, this could happen to me. And now I'm like, nothing is safe.

[Abby]

No. I literally was like, we cannot show CJ Lamb before time ever again because the mom dies and then Lion's king, too. I was like, sorry, but we're gonna be here for everybody. You can't get rid of us.

[Abigail]

Gonna be here for.

[Abby]

Can't put those fears in your mind.

[Abigail]

Well, Addie, that's very exciting. We've known for so long.

[Addie]

It's a gender.

[Abigail]

A secret as of now.

[Addie]

No. Blake said I can talk about it. Guys.

[Abby]

Okay. Drama.

[Abigail]

Wait, this is.

[Abby]

Wait, this is breaking news.

[Addie]

Breaking news.

[Abigail]

Breaking news.

[Addie]

It's a girl.

[Abby]

Brielle's gonna be an amazing sister.

[Addie]

Yes, I know. I'm excited. Hopefully, everyone. Hopefully you're doing Sunday dinner because we're gonna tell everyone the. The. The name. Oh, sweet. Oh, my gosh.

[Abby]

Yay.

[Abigail]

That's exciting.

[Addie]

So, yeah, it'll be fun.

[Abby]

Is it another bee name?

[Addie]

It is.

[Abby]

Is it? Should I have asked that?

[Addie]

You can ask. It's kind of a unique name, apparently. So we'll see.

[Abby]

Okay. I'm excited.

[Addie]

But we like it, so you have to like it.

[Abigail]

We surely won't say anything.

[Addie]

Okay.

[Abby]

That's exciting.

[Addie]

Yeah. Two little girls. They'll be best friends. So I'm just looking at Griffin and Augie. They're Besties.

[Abby]

So this was a good conversation. Not to scare people. It's just like, I think it's good. No one told me, like, the hard parts of it, they're like, oh, it's hard.

[Abigail]

Every mom, friends, really, at that point, I feel like no one went into

[Abby]

like, details of the things that were actually hard for them. They're just like, oh, it's. You're just really tired. And I'm like, okay. But you're expecting that.

[Abigail]

The flip side of it is that you're struggling and you feel like you're. That's where I felt the shame. Cuz I was like, man, I'm the only one that can't. Can't do this by myself.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

Whereas, like, if other moms had been like, no, I needed help at that point, or like, I was. It was a big adjustment. I feel like I wouldn't have felt as much shame.

[Abby]

Totally.

[Abigail]

Or like the guilt that I felt. Yeah.

[Abby]

And it's like the most rewarding thing in the long. But those first few months for me were really hard. I'm excited to hear how your 2 to 3 is. And I'm excited to hear how your 1 to 2 is.

[Addie]

I'm wondering for like, I guess 2 to 3 is. I don't know if it's. It's probably not as different as 0 to 1 or 1 to 2.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

But I feel like the differences, they're both hard in different ways. Because zero to one, you're. And maybe you already said this. You're learning how to. You don't know what you're doing.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Your anxiety is the second one.

[Addie]

You know how to do everything. You're just adapting to how to do it too. Like how to take care of another kid.

[Abigail]

Yeah. How do I multiply myself?

[Addie]

Yeah. And that's like, it's hard in both ways. So people who just say, oh, it's so hard, or I want to know two under two. I feel like it's common these days to have two under two. Everyone says it's hard. Here's my thought. No one knows. No one knows both.

[Abigail]

No one knows two under two.

[Addie]

But you don't know how it is to have two under two. No one knows both sides.

[Abigail]

I will know.

[Abby]

Unless they had. Unless they had.

[Addie]

Okay. Unless they had multiple. Yeah. But then they have three kids, so it's different. Or they have. You know, that's true. I'm just gonna live by that.

[Abigail]

Addie, I'm telling you, 202 is difficult. I just want you to know that one before we start.

[Addie]

I have. I haven't. They haven't. They haven't a 23 month old.

[Abigail]

Yeah. That's where I'm like, shut up. No, I had 202 for 11 months. And those 11 months were challenging.

[Abby]

Yeah. So you can shift it to 2 years and 3 months old when Vivian was born.

[Abigail]

No, I would say it probably shifts more. 18 months. So. But you're under 18 months.

[Addie]

We're 16.

[Abigail]

So you got two months of, like.

[Addie]

Got two months of. I'm just. I'm. Braille's gonna be excelling at everything. She's gonna walk before she's one. She's gonna start saying words. She's roaring right now. So she growls.

[Abby]

She's really advanced.

[Addie]

She's trying to convince her. Convince her. Teach her to growl at people she doesn't like.

[Abby]

Oh, no.

[Addie]

If we're talking about how ornery Blake is on all the different worlds, we

[Abby]

have a growling Kid.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

C.J. went through a phase.

[Abigail]

We're in that phase.

[Abby]

That's cute.

[Abigail]

I also think little girls in general adapt better to babies.

[Addie]

She loves babies. She loves kids. She grabbed Bode's hand today and was holding it. I'm like, you're such a child.

[Abigail]

You're so sweet.

[Abby]

Yeah. You have so much fun.

[Addie]

Bakery. She loves the bacon on the bacon burn door. She goes up to us.

[Abby]

She's got such a sweet personality. You're gonna be fine. I'm so excited for you. You're gonna be a great.

[Abigail]

And it's so great when they meet each other. It'll be great. It'll be so sweat.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Two girls.

[Abby]

Two girls, baby.

[Addie]

Two little girls.

[Abby]

We've got a few more things that we're gonna talk about on Patreon in this topic of pregnancy and motherhood. So we're gonna head over and have that conversation. If you guys want to hear more, sign up for our Patreon. It's $5 a month. We do exclusive content on every episode. I hate saying exclusive. Exclusive content. Bonus content.

[Abigail]

It's not X rated.

[Abby]

Not exclusive. It's just bonus. And we also have so many fun chats with our always hungry. We have, like, so many recipes in there. I love reading. Our book club is on there, an extended book club segment.

[Addie]

So we do questions from Patreon. Like, exclusive questions.

[Abby]

Yeah, we do. We do exclusive. We do more voicemails. Well, they're not voicemails. They're just red questions. But it's a party.

[Abigail]

I think that might be the initial launch of said surprise on Patreon.

[Addie]

No, she might. We might do a little test.

[Abigail]

First release.

[Abby]

Yeah, that's a great idea.

[Abigail]

Get some kings worked out with you guys.

[Abby]

Yeah. Okay, well, we'll head on there. We'll talk more about it.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

This show is sponsored by Better help. Better Helps 2026 State of Stigma report surveyed 2, 000Americans and revealed that 85 of Americans believe getting support is wise, yet 74% say society discourages people from actually doing so. Which, that's kind of a crazy statistic.

[Abigail]

And I feel like when your therapy needs become personal is when you really take action.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

And for me personally, that happened when I became a mom. I felt so much more responsibility for being the best version of myself every single day consistently. And I really felt like I had no space for these things. I was describing as like hiccups. I was like, oh, this is just something I struggle with. And I was like, I don't have, have to, and I don't have to go through this alone. My first stop was Better Help. And that is because they have made it so accessible. Whoever you are, whether it's online or through the app, they meet you where you're at, which I think is so cool. Especially a lot of us have really busy schedules. We're working, we have kids. It's not easy to go out and find someone like this. But Better Help makes that happen. On your timeline and in the comfort of your own home, they give you a short questionnaire which helps identify your, your needs and preferences. And their 12 plus years of experience and industry leading match fulfillment rate means that they typically get it right the first time. But if it just so happens that you aren't happy with your match, you can switch to a different therapist at any time from any of their other tailored recommendations, which is I think really comforting for people.

[Abby]

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[Addie]

Wait, wait. Okay, before voicemail. Sorry, last minute thing.

[Abigail]

Oh, yes, we mentioned.

[Addie]

Okay, we had two different things. First we'll say Abby's. Abby's this morning. And then yours at the gym. We had you put the bands on and then you were doing like side laying hip press resistance bands and I was standing up. Cause I didn't. It ain't really like to do that. So I was just doing it with both legs. I'm standing next to where the. Where everyone puts them back.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Abigail comes up and just smacks me in the leg with.

[Abby]

I snapped. I smacked it. I just go, hm. I just pulled it like a rubber band. Smacked her in the leg. I was like, I'm sorry. No.

[Addie]

And I went. And I, like, kind of fell over.

[Abby]

I thought it'd be funny. I was like. Like a little brother.

[Abigail]

Sister.

[Addie]

She said that was the most intrusive thought.

[Abby]

She just stopped there.

[Addie]

Laughing at her for.

[Abby]

Just smacked her with the resistance band. So stupid.

[Abigail]

I was like, that hurt.

[Addie]

No. I was like, what if I just fell over?

[Abby]

Gotcha.

[Addie]

And then my other moment with Abby this week is. I had this with Blake the other day. Blake asked me how many presidents I could name on the spot while we're watching a TV show. He asked me that. How many presidents can you name?

[Abigail]

Don't do it right now, but guess how many presents she could name.

[Abby]

I think a lot. How many do we have? 52.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

I bet you can name 48.

[Abigail]

She can name seven

[Addie]

on the spot. On the spot.

[Abigail]

I don't know. I didn't touch it.

[Addie]

You do way more than me. She even knew who the. Do you know who the second president is?

[Abby]

Was Ben Franklin.

[Addie]

Here's the thing. I don't think I even named Ben Franklin. Adams. Yes.

[Abby]

Was Ben Franklin a president?

[Abigail]

People were never listening to this because we were smart.

[Addie]

But, guys, I'm so dumb here. Blake was like, you're not so dumb.

[Abigail]

And it was just funny when you were like. I was like, well, how many did you get? You were like seven.

[Addie]

Seven.

[Abigail]

I guess he did. And I couldn't do 10 backwards.

[Abby]

We can go backwards. Let's do it. We have Donald Trump by Joe Biden.

[Addie]

I forgot Joe Biden.

[Abigail]

Why are you going in this order?

[Abby]

Because it's my most recent of my life. Barack Obama. George W. Bush. Clinton.

[Abigail]

You can stop once you get to set.

[Abby]

Ronald Reagan.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

Who is that guy with the glasses in between Reagan and Bush?

[Addie]

Kennedy.

[Abby]

John F. Kennedy. Hey, I'm already. I'm going to go jfk, Woodrow Wilson, Ben Franklin, John Adams. Abraham Lincoln. George Washington. Can't forget him.

[Abigail]

Are we still going in order?

[Addie]

No.

[Abby]

Is that nine? Am I at nine or 19?

[Addie]

You're at. You're at nine. You're at. You're at. You're 14.

[Abby]

14.

[Addie]

So see, Herbert Hoover. I got stuck. I got. I got real stuck. Real flustered.

[Abigail]

Yeah. It was just the way it Was delivered. She's like, how many? I was like, well, how many did you get? And she seven.

[Abby]

I want to keep going.

[Addie]

I'm really bad at retaining historical information.

[Abigail]

I am too. No, don't, please do not get me wrong. I am not judging you because I could not come up with many. But that was just so funny because I was like, that's so real. Like, honestly, like, when am I thinking about history? Or we were also in the middle

[Addie]

of watching a TV show. Blake paused and made me guess and he's like, here, let me do them in order. And I'm like, he could do all of them.

[Abby]

No, he got.

[Addie]

He wanted more time to think. And I'm like, we're literally watching a show.

[Abby]

Caleb does the same thing. He'll like pause the tv and I'm like, I'm watching the show. You can go do your research on your own time.

[Abigail]

I'm the pause.

[Abby]

Rest, play.

[Addie]

Okay, back to voicemail. Those were two things we were supposed to talk about.

[Abby]

Well, I thought you were going to get 48, so.

[Addie]

Thank you.

[Abby]

You're welcome.

[Addie]

I seem smart sometimes.

[Abigail]

You are smart. You are smart.

[Abby]

Ask, ask, ask. Abby, you ready for some voicemail?

[Abigail]

Let's do it.

[Abby]

If you guys are new to the show, we always have a voicemail segment called Ask Abby's. And if you guys want to call in and leave a question, it could be about anything. Questions, advice, whatever it may be. The number is 602-456-9690. We love hearing your guys voice and it just. It's fun being on our toes too. Hello, my name is Kayla. I love you guys.

[Addie]

Podcast.

[Abby]

Would love to know your thoughts on this predicament my husband and I are in. We have been married seven years. We have a dog who is seven years old. She's a great dog. But now that we have two kids, a two year old and a almost three month old, I want to get rid of our dog. And he does. Not

[Abigail]

again.

[Abby]

She's a great dog, but she sheds a lot and barks sometimes and it's just another thing to take care of.

[Addie]

So. Yeah.

[Abby]

Whose team would you be on?

[Addie]

It's such a funny question. This is a pointed question. Hannah pulled it.

[Abby]

Hannah pulled it.

[Abigail]

We were just talking about it. Okay, I'm gonna let Abigail take this one.

[Abby]

Listen, I get it. Yeah, I get it. I. Okay, so I think you should keep your dog. I do think you should keep your dog.

[Abigail]

But seven years.

[Abby]

Seven years is a long am. I died like not too long ago.

[Abigail]

No. My gosh.

[Addie]

It's not where I was going.

[Abigail]

Where were you going? That dog is bonded to you.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

You shouldn't get rid of it.

[Abby]

I'm saying you probably don't have that many more years with it.

[Abigail]

You know what I mean?

[Abby]

You've gotten the long front. I totally understand. We were gonna do a whole postpartum.

[Abigail]

Wait. How old are her kids? Let's get that up.

[Abby]

Three months old.

[Abigail]

Three months old. That's all we need to know.

[Abby]

That's all you need know. You will get past the rage in about three to four more months. We laugh. We were laughing because on the calls, like, I want to talk about postpartum, how I just. I didn't have rage towards my kids. I had rage towards my dog. And it's such a real, real, real thing, to the point where I was like, oh, he had diarrhea. Maybe it's like cancer. You know what I mean? Like, I was, like, hoping death on my dog back, and then my dad was on my shoulder because my dad does not like dogs. And he's like, just get rid of him, Abby. He needs to be on a farm, running free and, like. And I was like, you're right, Dad. I should. And good thing I didn't, because I love him again, and he's an amazing dog. So give yourself a couple months, maybe a year. You're just really overstimulated right now. But, yeah, I, like, really, really strongly had dark thoughts about my dog for, like, six months. So just give him some time.

[Abigail]

If I crack.

[Addie]

Yeah, I did finally crack, and I owned up to it. I told Blake to put our dog on Craigslist, and if it was there by the end of the night, I was gonna get rid of him.

[Abigail]

I put it on Craigslist because I

[Abby]

was just ushering him out the door.

[Addie]

There's just a very specific reason he hasn't bothered me at all. He eats my underwear. Eats every single one of them. Every single dirty pair of underwear. If it's in the hamper, digs it out of the hamper, eats it, and it's just the crotch is gone out of all my pairs of underwear, and I've had to reorder too many. And so I was just. And I. One day, I couldn't find a pair of underwear that sent me. That really sent me. I had a towel on. I just taken a shower, right? Couldn't find a pair of underwear that weren't, like, granny pants. So that one. That one sent me. Now I have to close my closet door so that he can't eat my underwear.

[Abigail]

Smart. I said that her hamper needs a fingerprint ID type of thing.

[Abby]

Yeah,

[Addie]

It's Rizzo.

[Abby]

Yes.

[Abigail]

Like, trying to crack into it. Yeah.

[Addie]

Brizzo eats the underwear. Wrigley eats the other things.

[Abby]

Yeah, always.

[Addie]

Which. Not for a while.

[Abby]

But, I mean, I made a whole video about the things my dog eats. The list is extensive.

[Abigail]

I. I have an unpopular opinion. I do think getting a dog, like, while the puppy stage wasn't easy, I do think getting it. Once you have. They don't have a baby and you have a gap between your kids. Kids, it's kind of wasn't bad.

[Abby]

No. Pretzel will over stimulate you.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

But pretzel doesn't bark that much. And I think that is what. That's what really overset me. And then it would be like, I'd be so exhausted. I finally get the kids down to sleep, and I'd sit down to work, and then Lewis would be at the door going, let me out.

[Abigail]

And I'm like, you go out yourself?

[Addie]

Hold it.

[Abby]

I don't know.

[Abigail]

It's just like, she got trained too, so I feel like that also really helped.

[Abby]

I think Lewis is trained.

[Abigail]

No,

[Abby]

he knows tricks.

[Abigail]

Your tricks.

[Abby]

Yeah, we always say he knows tricks, but he's not trained.

[Abigail]

Well, I mean, like, also, like, formally trained. Like, she went to doggy boarding school.

[Abby]

It did help her a lot.

[Abigail]

And she. I think it changed her whole temperament. She was less anxious, so, yeah, she's less anxious. So I feel like she's just more chill now.

[Abby]

Yeah, she's a great dog. And Lewis is a great dog. But, you know, prolonged period with no walks. Just give it a couple more months. You'll feel differently about your dog. So keep your dog. Hi, Abby. And Abby. My name is also Abby, and I

[Addie]

had a question for you. And it's.

[Abby]

How do you move past a friendship as an adult that you feel like you've outgrown when time has changed things and their relationships, like, more draining than it is? And how do you move past that and how do you fill that space? Love y'. All.

[Abigail]

Thank you.

[Abby]

She's gotta hope they move. I don't know. No, I'm just kidding.

[Abigail]

Bye.

[Abby]

No, that's a really good question. I feel like that's hard. That's always hard to navigate. And if it. I'd be curious if it's a relationship if. Where you can have, like, natural space, kind of just come in and ease things out, and you can just kind of let you guys grow apart. I feel like that's usually my passive aggressive.

[Abigail]

I don't think so though, because I was thinking, I think that's the kindest way to do it. Because I don't know if, like, I mean, anytime you, if you were being honest, which I would say honesty is usually the best approach. Telling someone that you feel like you've outgrown them is not.

[Abby]

That's not nice.

[Abigail]

Not, not like that's not gonna be well received. And that would also. That would be hurtful.

[Abby]

Super.

[Abigail]

But it's true for you. Yeah, that's what's true. And like, we can also say that. But I would say if there's ever. And I'm not speaking from my own experience, really, but my advice would always be when someone's like, I'm not enjoying, I'm not gaining anything. This friendship is draining. Like I just say create, Create space naturally and gradually.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

And I think that's also like, for them too. It's like that gives them some time to find other friends and not just be like, oh, I just had this friendship just like ripped off. I'm like, I'm craving community and like this person just completely disappeared on me. And so they can finally, like, they can move a different direction too. And I feel like that's honestly how life naturally moves you through friends too.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

There's nothing natural or unnatural or wrong. Wrong about that.

[Abby]

Totally. I think. So a tip. And maybe this is bad, but you just need to be a little bit more intentional about like the scheduling of how often you hang out. Like, instead of, oh, just come on over, whatever, be like, oh, I'm. Things are really crazy. But like, hey, two weeks from now on a Wednesday, do you want to hang out?

[Abigail]

Make it more formal.

[Abby]

More formal. Relational.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

And that way you're still like hanging out because maybe you do like this person, you still want to be friends and you don't want to fully cut them off, but you don't need to be as tight as inner circles. And so just spacing out the time that you're gonna hang out is probably a good way to do it.

[Abigail]

Yeah, I don't think that's passive aggressive.

[Abby]

Okay, good.

[Addie]

Hi, Abby.

[Abby]

Abby and Addie.

[Addie]

My name is Jenna. I'm 21, I'm almost 32 weeks pregnant and I'm going to be a first time mom. I'm also going to be a single mom. So I was wondering what recommendations or

[Abby]

tips you have for like a bedside

[Addie]

car for nighttime feeding, what you think I should keep at bedside and just some good tips for those kind of things.

[Abby]

So thank you.

[Abigail]

Yeah, I feel like everyone uses those IKEA carts or whatever, Target carts. You had a good setup.

[Addie]

I had a cart. I didn't need the whole cart. It actually was like kind of stressful for me to think about filling it. I just had a little caddy and that was enough for me. And I had diapers and wipes and like one onesie and a Perry bottle. See, I kept it by my bedside for I'm more. I'm thinking more nighttime feedings. So I didn't keep a Perry bottle in there. And then I had Belvita. That was my. One thing is I had a lot of snacks. You don't need as many snacks in there as you think.

[Abigail]

Oh, I like.

[Addie]

And then you're just. Well, then I was just eating so much at night when I wasn't hungry. I was just eating because they were there. And I was like, I should eat them. I had my Belvita. And I like, next time that's all I'll do.

[Abigail]

I really liked having a lot of drinks that were like, really hydrating because breastfeeding and postpartum in general, I feel like you're just really thirsty. Totally having a lot of drinks accessible at nighttime. Just having everything as, as, as handy. Probably more so for baby. I feel like at that point it was like, yeah, bottle, binky, diaper, wipes, everything. Don't. Here's my other thing. Don't worry about. I know I said I'm having a lot of gadgets this pregnancy, but I'm talking about like ones that will make more. So make it quicker for me to take care of the baby and not make it like, feel like I have to do a million steps. So there's a difference between those gadgets because I think some of the gadgets that I'm like, they're not warmers. I'm like, I feel like that is a scam. And also just making you feel like you need to do more.

[Abby]

Right.

[Abigail]

Then you don't. I'm not gonna heat up the bassinet. Like, there's like a lot of gadgets that are like, that's just adding more steps for you. I'm more like, how can we get simplified? Simplify. And that's what the gadget is going to simple. Like streamline that process. And so I think for like your case, having a game plan, it's hard because if it's a first time, you really can't have a game plan as much. But early on establish, like, how can I streamline this and systemize it as much as possible. Because for me, like, it was really stressful waking up in the night. Like, I don't know, I remember just being like, oh, my gosh, like, what are we doing right now? I was really caught off guard. I'm a deep sleeper, too. So when I would wake up, I was like, what do I do? Like, streamlining it. It's like, okay, first I start feeding one side, diaper change other side, like, making it just like a simple, like, I do this and then I do this, and then I do this, and then I do this, and then I put you back in a big bed. That made it feel way more manageable when it felt really overwhelming. Because, let's be honest, we have to be real. Like, it is so amazing having a baby, but it is really overwhelming at the beginning when you're waking up all the time. Like, that is an overwhelming feeling. And especially in the middle of the night when you're tired and it's the sun is down, that feeling of overwhelm, like, I would get those. What do they call it? Sundown nighttime scaries. Just systemize that as much as possible, and then that'll help you kind of figure out what you need to, like, physically by your bedside. I really hope you have someone that you can, like, reach out to. And don't be afraid to reach out to someone. If there's anything from this episode. I hope that no one thinks that I'm, like, complaining or think that it's not a good idea to have many children, because it's the opposite of my thinking. My goal was simply to make everyone that feels like any type of guilt or shame or overwhelm, to not feel alone in that. Because that, I think, is that the. The thing that makes it feel the most impossible.

[Abby]

And, like, I think sometimes people look at us and, like, I put, it's a lot of a highlight reel on medium that we put out, and it's like, hey, we needed help. Like, I needed a lot of help. And so I think it's just. Just remembering that everyone needs help and doing it yourself. I just want to encourage you. Like, you're going to be. You will know exactly what your baby needs. And maybe it won't come in the way that you expected to, but, like, your nurses are going to teach you. You a lot at the hospital, so don't worry. Like, if you feel like you're going and you know nothing. I feel like my nurses taught me so much. My pediatrician taught me so much. The Internet will teach you a Lot. Like, whoever's helping you will teach you a lot. And you're. I think you're going to be amazed with yourself and how strong you are, how resilient you are. And that knowing that, like, hey, I stepped up to the plate when it was time gives you such a confidence in yourself that I think you're going to feel so empowered with. And I'm praying that over you. And I'm really excited for you and. And this baby. You're gonna have an amazing relationship with this baby.

[Abigail]

So have something for you, too that makes you just happy. Like, for me, like, having my kindle on dark mode. And during those feedings at night, I was like, I can't wait to get back to my book. Like, that made me feel excited. It was, like, obviously bonding with my baby was, like, really exciting. But at night, I was like, I don't want to bond.

[Abby]

Oh, I just watch tik toks or, like, a show.

[Addie]

Have a show headphones. So I had my airpods. So then I listen to music.

[Abby]

Music.

[Addie]

So I could listen to a show or scroll on tick tock. I think with that, too.

[Abigail]

Turn on twinkle lights.

[Addie]

Yeah. With, like, you saying the. It's the highlight reel. On social media, I would say, at least for the first seven days, I did something different every single night with.

[Abby]

Yeah.

[Addie]

Like, and I did have a partner, so it was a little different. Like, Blake, I think, slept in bed with me the first night, and then I needed him to get brielle because I couldn't get up out of bed, so I needed him to get her for me the next night. I think I wanted to breastfeed on the couch because it was most comfy for me. So Blake slept on the couch with brielle, and then I would walk out there and do it. And then the next night, I was like, that doesn't make sense. I put her back in the room, and I had Blake wake up and do her diaper. And I was like, that doesn't make sense. And so every single night, we changed it until we found the routine that worked for us. So I feel like that's something to make you feel a little bit better. Every single night could be completely different. Figuring out what your rhythm looks like.

[Abigail]

Yeah.

[Abby]

Don't be afraid to switch things up or try new things.

[Addie]

Yes.

[Abby]

I also didn't actually dread nights as much as I thought I would. I actually was like, and I'm a really deep sleeper. There's just something in you when your baby's there. You're like, I'm up?

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abigail]

Oh, no. I would be like, I'm up right away, but it would freak me out.

[Abby]

It was actually like six weeks after. Then I was like, oh, shoot. I didn't wake up. But that first six weeks, you're like, I'm up. Let's go.

[Abigail]

I'm still like that. But, baby, if one of my kids wakes up, I'm like, 100% awake.

[Abby]

No, I'm not like that anymore.

[Addie]

Blake is not like that. Has never been like. He's like. I was like, did you hear Brielle last night waking up at 2:00am he's like, what?

[Abby]

Caleb wakes me up. He's like, you hear that? I'm like, no.

[Abigail]

It literally gets to the point where I wake up. It literally is the point where I wake up like, 60 seconds before they make a sound, I swear, Where I'm

[Abby]

literally like, oh, it's amazing. A mother's intuition. I know.

[Abigail]

It's kind of a nightmare.

[Abby]

Adrenaline.

[Addie]

It is adrenaline where you wake up and you haven't heard anything.

[Abigail]

Thing.

[Addie]

You look at the monitor, their eyes are open, and you're like, oh, been doing that with her naps.

[Abby]

And I'm like, oh, she's laying there peacefully. I'm like, you guys, who was it?

[Abigail]

Someone's kid. I was literally watching the monitor of their kid, and their guys just. They were, like, asleep the whole time. And she goes, oh, it's angel. That's funny.

[Abby]

Oh, the way their eyes glow in the monitors are so funny. Oh, my gosh.

[Addie]

It's so scary.

[Abby]

That's a great question. We are rooting for you.

[Addie]

Yeah, that's it for voicemails.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

That's great.

[Abigail]

Okay, let's for always hungry. I was literally just about to say, let's whip out always hungry. What's up with us? Anyway, My brain isn't working, so. But in Florida, I made these cinnamon roll bites that were really delicious.

[Abby]

Abby, I really want some cinnamon rolls.

[Abigail]

Everyone's been asking. I need to make some more.

[Abby]

When you're ready.

[Abigail]

I'm ready. I like baking.

[Abby]

I'm only saying this because you told me you like when I ask, like,

[Addie]

request recipes for pretzel bites. And we had pretzel bites, so I'm

[Abigail]

gonna make some cinnamon roll bites. I need to get my sourdough going back again.

[Addie]

That can be our dessert.

[Abigail]

No, it's really easy to get it going back again. That's why I was like, yesteryear. Why are they knocking people for putting their sourdough?

[Addie]

Blake just said he's gonna start. He's gonna make a sourdough starter with no recipe.

[Abigail]

Why is he making starter? That is so offensive to me when I have starter. Anyway, this was a really easy recipe. So I've made something similar to this before and it was way too overly sweet. I was like, kind of grossed out. But this one's actually made with rose rolls.

[Abby]

I love rose rolls.

[Abigail]

They're delicious. And this made it really easy. And it was still really sweet, but not overly sweet because somebody's actually used like literal canned cinnamon rolls. And you're like, this is so, so much going on. It was delicious. Really easy too. And you can prep it. What I did was I completely prepped it the night before, stuck it in the fridge and baked it. Baked it in the morning and it was really yummy.

[Abby]

Good. Yeah.

[Abigail]

And it was, it's. It's called like the inside of the cinnamon roll. It's literally like you're eating a bunch of like the nucleus of.

[Abby]

This is the best part. My recipe is what I made Caleb on Father's Day. I want to make white chicken chili with a pumpkin cornbread crust. It's very easy to make, like super simple. And you top it with guacamole sour cream. Oh, wow. That wasn't expected. No, it's like a south. It's almost like a taco skillet almost.

[Abigail]

With pumpkin cornbread.

[Abby]

It just works. I don't know. It's ambitious kitchen. So, you know, it's flavorful, you know, it's good.

[Abigail]

Okay.

[Abby]

Yeah, It's. It's a 10. I've made it many times. Well, those are our recipes, you guys. If you try them, let us know. Join our Patreon always here or always a hungry chat and get more recipe inspiration.

[Abigail]

I've been getting some of my recipes from there too.

[Abby]

Yeah, they've. You guys.

[Addie]

Yeah, I use one of Abby's recipes. If you're using the meatball recipe with whatever else is with it. Shredded cheese, you can't buy it. It gotta grate it. Shredded mozzarella cheese came.

[Abigail]

Her cheese didn't melt. Did you know that it says wood chips?

[Addie]

Yeah, that's what. It's dust. It's like dust. He said if you're gonna do it, you have to wash it off if

[Abigail]

you're gonna use that seems like wash your cheese.

[Addie]

Yeah.

[Abby]

You guys, I've only ever eaten store bought shredded cheese.

[Addie]

Well, you can't with this recipe or it doesn't melt.

[Abigail]

You're not even actually crunchy.

[Abby]

I'm not even. I know. I'm like, I Said, I was thinking this the day I'm like, I'm 80, 20. You're eating 2020. Crunchy, 80, not, you know, people like 80, 20, 80. Healthy, like 80, not crunchy. Okay, well, you guys, we are so grateful for you. And if you guys would like to leave us a review, we would exceptionally like that we would make.

[Abigail]

That would make us really happy.

[Abby]

Really happy. I was looking and I think Spotify is beating reviews then on Apple podcasts. Pretty sure there's a lot more on Spotify, which is really nice. But if you guys, wherever you listen to rate the show five stars, leave us a review. Share the episode.

[Abigail]

I care more about making Spotify happy than Apple podcasts happy.

[Abby]

Why?

[Abigail]

Spotify is just amazing.

[Addie]

Spotify, that's your platform of choice.

[Abigail]

I don't personally use Spotify as much for podcasts, but as far as, like, experience on a creator, Spotify is the amazing, amazing platform to work with.

[Abby]

Really?

[Abigail]

They really care. I feel like they really care.

[Abby]

Oh, that's cool. We love Spotify then. Yeah, I'm looped in on this now.

[Abigail]

Looped in.

[Abby]

Well, you guys, sorry. Gracie Manns left us a review. A really sweet one. She said a favorite. Five stars. This podcast is always a ray of sunshine in my week. I love tuning in to hear the life updates, getting the girls thoughts on everything under the sun, and feeling like I'm listening to a conversation with my friends. Love and appreciate that these girls are always here once a week for my commute to work. Thank you ladies for what you do. Thank you, Gracie. That's a really sweet review.

[Abigail]

Meeting you guys and hearing from you guys, whether it's voicemails, reviews, or in person, it's the best. Really, really rewarding. And I can't tell you how much it means to us. And we appreciate it and really feel like you guys are our friends. I'm like, if you listen to this, us just literally just yap, then, gosh,

[Abby]

two and a half hours.

[Addie]

We don't really have a plan. It's probably not gonna be that long.

[Abigail]

Two and a half hours.

[Abby]

Good thing you calmed me down on that. I was like, I think we need to plan a little bit more. You're like, I think we're gonna talk a lot.

[Abigail]

It's just so easy.

[Addie]

It is.

[Abigail]

Anyway, we love you guys. And remember, remember, we're always here.