239 Missing, Presumed Dead; Greatest Aviation Mystery in History Could Finally Be Solved

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Podcast Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode: 239 – "Missing, Presumed Dead; Greatest Aviation Mystery in History Could Finally Be Solved"
Date: December 7, 2025

This episode delves into the enduring mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, which disappeared in 2014 with 239 people onboard and has never been found. With a new search about to begin using advanced technology and a high-stakes "no find, no fee" contract, Amy and TJ discuss why this case continues to haunt the world, recap what is known (and not known), and highlight the ongoing agony for families seeking answers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why MH370 Is the Greatest Aviation Mystery

• Comparison to Amelia Earhart

  • The hosts compare MH370's case to the disappearance of Amelia Earhart, but stress the unprecedented scale and trauma due to the number of missing people (239) and the lack of answers.
  • Quote:

    "We're talking about 239 souls, passengers and crew. Every one of those folks had family and friends waiting for them... tortured by the fact that they don't know where or how their loved ones died." — TJ Holmes [03:43]

• Absence of Evidence

  • No substantial wreckage or bodies; only small fragments washing up, which adds to the distress and enigma.
  • Quote:

    "We're 10 years plus into this. They can't tell us anything about what happened... They got 239 people who disappear without a trace." — Amy Robach [04:41]

2. Timeline & Details of the Disappearance

• Key facts outlined:
  • MH370 vanished about 30 minutes after taking off, well after reaching cruising altitude, which is highly unusual for aviation accidents.
  • No distress call, no bad weather, no hijack signals, and the plane's transponder was deliberately shut down.
  • Final communication: “Good night. Malaysian three seven zero.” — the last radio call [08:01].
  • Satellite and military radar suggest a deliberate turn, then a continued flight possibly until fuel ran out over the southern Indian Ocean.

3. The Human Element: Impact on Families

• Unimaginable Loss
  • Highlighting the trauma families endure, never knowing what happened or where their loved ones are.
  • Many refused financial compensation, seeking only the truth.
  • Quote:

    "It's hard enough, obviously, to lose a loved one. To lose a loved one suddenly in a tragic accident is another horrific thing. Now you don't know what happened. You don't know where their body is... That that would haunt you until the day you are gone." — TJ Holmes [11:26]

4. Search Efforts Past and Future

• Global-Scale Effort

  • Between 2014 and 2018, an international coalition—60 ships, 50 aircraft from 26 countries—searched 46,000 square miles with no major results.
  • Fragments have washed up, but never anything substantial—no bodies, no big debris.

• New Search Initiative (Ocean Infinity)

  • Malaysia has contracted Ocean Infinity, a Texas-based marine robotics company, under a "no find, no fee" agreement:

    • If they find the wreckage, they get $70 million; if not, nothing.

    • The new search window is 55 days, starting December 30, 2025.

    • The search area is now narrowed to about 5,500 square miles—roughly the size of Connecticut.

    • Quote:

      "Ocean Infinity... They have 55 days to find what they can find from this plane. They say they've got some areas... most likely... Get $70 million if they find it and $0 if they don't." — TJ Holmes [06:50, 07:24]

    • Still, searching an area of that size and depth, at the ocean floor, is a monumental challenge.

    • Quote:

      "That big plane in the water is a needle in a big ass pool water." — Amy Robach [21:15]

5. Perpetuating Mystery and Technology Challenges

• Why So Hard to Find?

  • The vast, uncharted southern Indian Ocean, ocean currents, and lack of precise crash location data make the search extremely difficult.

  • Technology used includes sonar and robotic submarines; the risks and logistical challenges are immense.

  • Quote:

    "Can you imagine? They've never found a body. Can you imagine? They've never found any large or decent piece of wreckage. That is almost unthinkable." — TJ Holmes [12:07]

  • Visually, searching area = state of Connecticut, but factoring in ocean depth.

6. What Finding the Plane Would Mean

• Closure and Memorialization

  • Finding the wreckage would turn the crash site into an "underwater cemetery"—a somber but essential opportunity for families to gain at least some closure.
  • Quote:

    "What they're looking for is a damn cemetery at the bottom of the ocean... This is a burial ground for a lot of folks and this is a cemetery." — Amy Robach [22:20]

• Potential for Breakthroughs

  • If the black box is found, it could finally answer the biggest questions of how, why, and what happened on MH370.

7. Broader Reflections

• Aviation Mysteries Remain Fascinating and Painful
  • The hosts muse on why stories like MH370 capture collective attention—akin to the Amelia Earhart case.
  • Quote:

    "It's one of those fascinating things like Amelia Earhart—just, you want answers." — Amy Robach [24:48]

  • New searches for both Earhart and MH370 are coincidentally scheduled around the same time, sparking hope that both mysteries might be solved soon.
  • The episode closes with a wish that this effort brings peace to the families and ends a haunting chapter for so many.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the enduring agony:

  "It's not even about the money, and I would understand that. It's like, I don't want the money. I want answers. I want to know what happened." — TJ Holmes [12:08]

• On the impossible odds:

  "It seems almost impossible that something could disappear completely, you know, and they would—or they argue it's almost impossible to find now." — Amy Robach [13:27]

• On the vastness of the search area:

  "Take... the state of Connecticut... just put it out in the middle of the ocean. How do you cover that area?... That big plane in the water is a needle in a big ass pool water." — Amy Robach [20:49, 21:15]

• On the emotional cost:

  "You start to hear some of the stories and they will even put up some pictures of family members going to the walls, the memorials... But the pain that's still on the faces... It's heart wrenching because you... want to know what happened. But there are so many individual stories of trauma and tragedy." — TJ Holmes [23:30]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------|---------------| | Main theme introduction | 02:59–03:43 | | TJ explains scale of tragedy | 03:43–05:11 | | No evidence, no clues | 04:34–05:11 | | Timeline of flight, disappearance | 05:14–08:53 | | Discussion on search contract, efforts | 06:21–08:01 | | Theories: deliberate action, ghost plane | 08:58–10:43 | | Human cost, families' pain | 11:26–12:13 | | International search effort recap | 12:13–13:27 | | Vastness of the ocean and search area | 13:27–15:09 | | New search area specifics, tech challenges | 19:38–21:24 | | Emotional/memorial reflections | 22:20–23:30 | | Closing thoughts, hope for answers | 24:40–25:13 |

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a gripping, empathetic discussion of the MH370 mystery—a story still unresolved more than a decade later. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes balance intrigue, technical detail, and deep humanity as they discuss the new search, the global quest for answers, and the enduring suffering of hundreds of families. The episode ends with hope: that the renewed search finally delivers justice—and closure—for all those impacted.

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[Amy Roboff]

Hey there Folks, it is Sunday, December 7, and a renewed effort is about to get underway this month to solve what is quite possibly the greatest aviation mystery in history. What happened to Malaysian Air Flight MH. Yes. 370. You know that name? And you know. Well, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. Is that fair to say? I mean, I, we think aviation mysteries and I think Amelia Earhart comes to people's minds immediately. Is this not. I know that one's 100 years on, that one almost. But this Malaysian Airlines 370, my God, yes.

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[TJ Holmes]

Greatest aviation mystery of all time, Malaysian Flight 370 comes up every single time. So, yes, I think pretty much everyone agrees because look, yes, obviously Amelia Earhart comes to mind. That's one person. She, she had a co pilot with her. Right. Two people missing. We are talking, yeah, we are talking about 239 souls, passengers and crew. Every one of those folks had family and friends waiting for them, wondering what happened to them and tortured by the fact that they don't know where or how their loved ones died. And look, I'm sure some of them hold on to hope that somehow they're on some deserted island somewhere that miniseries have been made of, but they just want to be able to have some closure.

[Amy Roboff]

You said they don't know what happened. They don't know how it happened. They don't have a clue.

[TJ Holmes]

Not a clue.

[Amy Roboff]

They don't have a frickin. We're 10 years plus into this. They can't tell us anything about what happened. They can tell us what didn't happen. They can tell we didn't get a distress call. We didn't get this. Sweetheart, that wasn't bad weather. There was no distress. There was no hijacking. There was no. They do not have a clue still. What happened to this flight? That adds to a bit of mystery here. No, I would say adds to. We got 239 people who disappear without a trace.

[TJ Holmes]

Correct. Without.

[Amy Roboff]

It just doesn't happen.

[TJ Holmes]

And you know, most aviation accidents or issues occur on takeoff and landing. It very Rarely something happens 30 plus minutes into a flight after you've already reached altitude, everyone's settled, you are literally cruising on autopilot. And then to have that seemingly be. Everything's fine, we're all on course.

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And to have a complete stop of.

[TJ Holmes]

All communications and you can see on the radar that the plane turns around and goes where nobody knows.

[Amy Roboff]

And we, we assume it goes down. There has been and we'll get into in a Moment, just very, very small amounts of this plane that washed up in some places where. But what we're talking about here now and the reason it's back in the headlines is folks, look, give them credit in Malaysia, they are, they did not let it go. There are folks, there are families who are still wanting answers and don't have them after 11 years. So Malaysia, the government there has not essentially stopped this effort. The official search was suspended, what, 2017? 2018.

[TJ Holmes]

2018, yep.

[Amy Roboff]

So they officially stopped. But there have been renewed efforts over the years and this is a new one they have now. The Malaysian government has contracted an American robotics company, oceanic, what Ocean Infinity is the name of it, but a marine robotics company, and say, hey, here's the contract. You find it and we'll pay you. And that's the contract they have. And this effort is about to get underway. Ropes on December 30th they have a deadline. You find it and you get paid.

[TJ Holmes]

That's right. They have 55 days. So Ocean Infinity, a Texas based company is going to start or resume.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

They actually began this back in March.

[TJ Holmes]

But the weather was too bad so they called it off and said we'll resume it later in the year when the Indian Ocean is in a better position to be searched, I guess is the best way to put it. But they're going to start on December 30th. They have 55 days to find what they can find from this plane. They say they've got some areas that they know are the most likely that.

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The wreckage could be, but they will.

[TJ Holmes]

Get $70 million if they find it and $0 if they don't. It's called a no find, no fee contract.

[Amy Roboff]

Pretty good deal. I mean, that's a pretty smart way to go about it. Why not? You'll get paid if you find this thing. Everybody is highly motivated, are they not? I didn't see anywhere. Robes. You tell me if you did. Like, what constitutes wreckage? Like, do you have to find the entire thing? Do you have to find a black box? Do you have to find with this wing big enough, like, I really wonder, like, how much constitutes finding the wreckage.

[TJ Holmes]

That gets you paid?

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Fine prints somewhere, but yes, little tiny.

[TJ Holmes]

Bits have been found along shorelines, but nothing of any significance. And can you imagine if they found the black box? If, if they found that black box? So many years of frustrations and wondering and what possibly could they could all be answered with that black box? Because as of right now, the only thing they have is the pilot's last radio call and the Pilot called in to Kuala Lumpur and said, good night. Malaysian three seven zero. That was the final communication. And then the plane went over into Vietnamese airspace, never to be heard from again. It never checked in with air traffic controllers there in Vietnam. And the weird thing is that the plane's transponder shut down. So that's why they don't know where it went. They don't.

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They think it kept flying.

[TJ Holmes]

They think maybe it just ran out of fuel, but they don't know where it went.

[Amy Roboff]

That was. That went. I remember that being such an intriguing theory at the time. The idea that this was a ghost plane, essentially, that everybody possibly, if they lost cabin pressure and everybody was knocked out on the plane and this thing just kept going for hours, possibly crashed after it ran out of fuel. That was one theory. The thing that was also intriguing, robes because they were able, they say, at least to confirm someone intentionally turned that plane. And didn't they not say, what about the transponder? But there was intent in what happened in some movement of this plane?

[TJ Holmes]

Yes. So even though the transponder shut down, military radar was actually able to see the plane and see the jet turn back over the Indian Ocean. And then they could look at the satellite data, and that showed that they believe the plane kept flying for hours until it literally ran out of fuel. And then they think crashed somewhere in the Southern Indian Ocean. And they believe that someone deliberately severed communications and diverted the plane. That is what Malaysian authorities came up with. They say, we believe someone deliberately severed communication. So, yes. Theories? Hijacking. Could there have been a hijacker or cabin depressurization or power failure? But when you don't have a distress call, you don't have a ransom demand. Like if someone did hijack the plane, why would they not have communicated and said, here's. Here are our demands, here's what we want. We have these folks in our control and we are going to do this if you don't give us that. So there was no communication. So that almost doesn't make sense. And to your point, there was no severe weather. They don't believe there was any technical failure. So it is truly a mystery.

[Amy Roboff]

You know, oftentimes they put these things together and they say it's our belief or we have a likelihood of da, da, da. They got nothing. Eleven years later, this thing flat out vanished off the face of the earth. I give them credit. I did not know that they were still keeping an eye on this over the years. This no fine, no fee contract. They apparently tried this with the Same company, years and years, I think 2018, 2019, whatever. They've tried this before. These efforts have been going on over the years, and to see them, I'd like to see a big push. It sounds like they're going big. Like, we're just trying. Not just. I love that this was important to them to give 239 people's families some kind of answer.

[TJ Holmes]

Can you imagine? I was just trying to. It's hard enough, obviously, to lose a loved one. To lose a loved one suddenly in a tragic accident is another horrific thing to have to try to get your head around. Now you don't know what happened. You don't know where their body is. You don't know how they died, you don't know why they died. That that would haunt you, like, until.

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[TJ Holmes]

You are gone. So, yes, so many families have refused payment. The Malaysian government has said, hey, we want to compensate some of the family members of the folks who were on these planes. A lot of people have said, no, we refuse. We. And some people have decided to try to get a lawsuit going, but mostly.

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Just to get answers.

[TJ Holmes]

They don't. It's not even about the money, and I would understand that. It's like, I don't want the money. I want answers. I want to know what happened.

[Amy Roboff]

Money feels like closure. It sounds like, okay, it's done now, you paid me off, and it's over.

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Give the money to go find the search.

[TJ Holmes]

To go search, you know, for. And so I do think I agree with you. I think that is really admirable and incredible because, yes, technically, do you need to find out all of the answers? No. But there's a human element to all of this and such a tremendous amount of loss, and people want answers. You know, I actually looked this up. This is pretty remarkable. It wasn't as if they didn't try. As you pointed out, there were several different iterations of searches for the last, I guess from 2014 till 2018, 60 ships, 50 aircraft from 26 countries. So it wasn't as if Malaysia was doing this on their own. People from around the world, countries from around the world sent resources to Malaysia to help. And still with the best technology, with all of those aircraft and ships, they still found. They've never found a body. Can you imagine? They've never found any large or, like, decent piece of wreckage. That is almost unthinkable. I know the ocean is vast. I know it is deep, but it still seems like with the technology we have, that's like. It seems Almost impossible that something could.

[Amy Roboff]

Disappear completely, you know, and they would or they argue it's almost impossible to find. Now it's one of the scariest things in the world, or at least the feeling that I had to be out in the middle of the ocean and you can't see land, right? It's. We see stuff on a globe. We see it on a map. We see that body of water there is just. The majority of this world is covered in that.

[TJ Holmes]

It is water.

[Amy Roboff]

Unbelievable how vast these areas are. And I know folks, they got the technology, they've had the people. But one of the biggest problems here robe it rose. They don't know where the hell to look. They don't know where the damn thing went down. So now you gotta. It's bad enough if you had even a few square miles. They don't have a clue where to actually start looking. Everything is a guess. There's no evidence of this is the spot. All they can do is maybe if this happened, then they would have gone down here. If they went down this direction after this many hours, then maybe here it is. I cannot imagine the task.

[TJ Holmes]

Well, they have obviously, I guess what they could base it off of is marking off where they've already looked. But then I'm thinking tides, ocean movement. You know, even if maybe they got in close to the right spot, it could have moved, shifted. We're talking almost 11 years. That is remarkable. A huge amount of time and God knows what the ocean does. But it. It's a. It was a large plane. We're talking about a Boeing 777. Correct. This is a huge plane. And it's just. It is still.

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[TJ Holmes]

I get the vastness of the ocean. But it still seems unthinkable to me that you would not be able to account for any significant piece of that plane in any way like that. It's never happened before.

[Amy Roboff]

Well, folks will stay with us. How big of an area they think they're searching for or searching in? Now they have, yes, targeted a very specific area, but the area is as big AS 1 Northeastern U.S. state.

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[Amy Roboff]

All right, folks, welcome back. We continue here on Amy and TJ Answers maybe possibly coming. Search will continue for Malaysian Air Flight 370 that went down in 2014 essentially without a trace. 239 people on board, all dead. All those families waiting for answers after all these years and they have not gotten them yet. The area now robes they're trying to search is a new one they've targeted and they've kind of, I guess you can cordon off if you will, a certain section of the of the ocean now where they're going to check. But I don't remember the square mileage. 5,500 plus square was it?

[TJ Holmes]

Oh well, initially I know that they've covered 46,000 square miles. Can you get your head around that? That's the number I saw that they actually Australia, Malaysia and China over these four years, this period 2014 to 2018, they covered 46,000 square miles. So now they've narrowed it down to what, about a tenth of that, give or take?

[Amy Roboff]

Well, I can't remember the exact number, but 55, let's just say that 5,500 plus maybe 5,800 square miles and I have no concept of what that looks like, but it looks like the state of Connecticut.

[TJ Holmes]

Wow.

[Amy Roboff]

So take, I don't even know how long it takes to drive across the state. But how, but imagine something that takes you that long to drive across for hours. Just put it out the middle of the ocean. How do you cover that area? I don't know what technology they use and how they use. But we're making the point. The area is vast. Yes. And so you talk about how big the plane is. That big plane in the water is a needle in a big ass pool water.

[TJ Holmes]

Because you know what, it's not just the state of Connecticut. I think that helps with visualization in terms of just how large the area is. But now consider the depth.

[Amy Roboff]

Oh yeah, right.

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I mean the depth of the ocean.

[TJ Holmes]

There, I don't, I can't imagine. But I know that it's one of the most uncharted parts of our planet before a reason because it's hard to get to, it's hard to reach, it's hard to know what is at. And this would. You would assume if it stayed Put or is in a certain part of it. It's all the way at the bottom of the ocean floor. Now, I know that they've used vessels and they're using vessels that have sonar and robotic submarines. So you're using sonar trying to find this wreckage and then you go off in little submarines and try to, I mean, the amount of just technology, but then actual risk to folks looking for the parts of this plane, I imagine that's a significant issue as well. Just to put yourself in this position, to go down and to try to find something at this depth, with this type of square mileage, it's. It's overwhelming.

[Amy Roboff]

You know, we, things like this always think back to the Titanic when they finally found that and the, the technology they used to discover this is now one of those things. We will have that video potentially at some point. We will have that remarkable. That moment where they go, wow. And that what they're looking for is a damn cemetery at the bottom of the ocean. So this isn't a. Yes, there is a. Something to be celebrated if this is found, and we hope it is. But man, what we have to remember and Rome, we kind of don't you feel that way? Yes, we have visitors and tourists. We live down here in lower Manhattan. But we have to remember. And you do you take a moment every time you walk through the 911 memorial, those two footprints where those towers stood, this is a burial ground for a lot of folks and this is a cemetery. And I immediately thought about that. What they're actually searching for and the answers they're searching for. There's an underwater cemetery right now, and there's something morbid certainly about that. But at the same time.

I have no personal connection to this story. And your heart goes out and you're rooting from Malaysia and all those families right now.

[TJ Holmes]

There have been many articles written now recently because of this renewed search that is about to get underway on December 3rd 30th. And some, some of the outlets, media outlets will go through who was on that plane. You know, you hear 227 passengers, 12 crew members. But you start to hear some of the stories and they will even put up some pictures of family members going to the walls, the memorials that have been set up around Malaysia just to pay their respects. But the pain that's still on the faces of the fathers and the mothers and the brothers and the families and the husbands and wives. It's heart wrenching because you. Yes, this is a mystery. Yes, we want to know what happened. But there are so many individual stories of trauma and tragedy. Yeah. Most of the passengers on the plane were Chinese, but there were Americans, Indonesians, French, Russia. Like, there were so many people on board this planes, on this plane. Sorry. Who had futures and hopes and dreams.

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And to start to read their stories.

[TJ Holmes]

I started to do it. And you really can get caught up in just the mystery and the folks and the families who want to know what happened to their loved ones.

[Amy Roboff]

Well, It's. They got 55 days starting December 30th. They're going to start searching. So.

Hopefully something will turn up. I mean, any little thing at this point will take. But what a mystery. It's one of those fascinating things like Lemilia Earhart is just, you want answers.

[TJ Holmes]

Still haven't figured that one out. But that was a much smaller plane.

[Amy Roboff]

That was a renewed effort for that as well. Some researchers think they found something there as well. So can you imagine the same year both those mysteries get solved within moments of each months or whatever that could happen?

[TJ Holmes]

There is a new search effort headed there. And now we've obviously got this Texas company heading to the Indian Ocean to try and solve that mystery as well. But we certainly hope we get answers. But more importantly for the people who love those, those folks who were on that plane, that they get some answers and they finally can have some peace knowing what happened to their loved ones. But we will continue to follow this story. Again, the search starts on December 30, but in the meantime, thank you so much, everyone for listening to us. I'm Amy Roboff alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.

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