“A Thousand Years Would Not Be Enough” Victims’ Family Speaks Out At Quadruple Homicide Sentencing

Summary

Podcast Summary: “A Thousand Years Would Not Be Enough” – Victims’ Family Speaks Out At Quadruple Homicide Sentencing

Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode Release Date: May 19, 2026
Hosts: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
Topic: The sentencing of Paul Canero for the quadruple homicide of his brother, sister-in-law, niece, and nephew in Colts Neck, New Jersey.

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Episode Overview

This emotional and gripping episode covers the long-awaited sentencing of Paul Canero, convicted of murdering his brother, sister-in-law, nephew, and niece seven years prior. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes provide detailed commentary on the sentencing proceedings, the impact on the victims’ family, and the harrowing statements delivered in court.

The episode’s core is the courtroom experience: the powerful victim impact statements, the judge’s detailed recounting of the crimes, and the defendant's final opportunity to address the court.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Case Background and Sentencing (01:50–03:54)

• Overview of the Crime:
  Paul Canero murdered his brother, brother's wife, and their two children (ages 11 and 8), and was also convicted of arson after setting fire to both crime scenes.
• Sentencing Outcome:
  Four consecutive life sentences without possibility of parole, plus additional years for theft and arson charges.
• Delay in Justice:
  The case took over seven years to conclude due to legal maneuvering and COVID-19 delays.

“A family has been waiting for this day and for this justice. Again you are talking about him slaughtering his own niece and nephew who are 8 and 11. It's an incomprehensible crime.”
– T.J. Holmes (03:54)

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The Courtroom Atmosphere (05:06–06:30)

• Packed Courtroom:
  Every seat filled; emotional weight palpable.
• Paul Canero’s Appearance:
  Unlike during the trial, Canero appeared in shackles and a bright yellow prison jumpsuit, physically separated from his defense team—a visible sign of his conviction and isolation.

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The Judge’s Unprecedented Approach (06:30–08:32)

• Painstaking Detail:
  The judge meticulously and repeatedly described the gruesome details of the crimes, especially those against the children.
• Purpose of Detail:
  Amy and T.J. debate whether the judge’s approach was meant to ensure the record reflected the severity for legal reasons, or to force Canero to confront his actions.

“I have never seen a judge go through and painstakingly go through the horrific nature of this crime beat by beat, moment by moment.”
– Amy Robach (06:30)

“Maybe I haven't heard anything from a judge like this because quite frankly, I haven't really heard of a crime like this.”
– T.J. Holmes (07:20)

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Victim Impact Statements (10:00–13:30)

• Speakers:
  Victim’s coworker and two family members (the mother and sister of Jennifer Canero).
• Most Powerful Moment:
  The mother’s statement, marked by rage, grief, and strength, left a deep impact on the hosts.

“She talked about how Paul Canero stole the source of joy and happiness in our lives and replaced it with bottomless sadness, sorrow and grief.”
– Amy Robach (10:42)

“One of, I think the most powerful things she said was... this stood out: ‘A thousand years would not be enough.’”
– Amy Robach (11:36)

The Devastation of Loss

• Family Impact:
  The family expressed the compounded tragedy—not just in the deaths themselves, but in losing their entire future: milestones, children, and new generations that would never come to be.

“She said an entire branch of our family was erased. He took out people who were going to produce possibly more kids, more grandkids, cousins.”
– T.J. Holmes (12:56)

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Incomprehensible Cruelty and Motive (13:30–17:40)

• Severity and Nature of the Crime:
  The hosts struggle to understand the extreme brutality—the 8-year-old niece was stabbed 40 times and ultimately died in the fire set by Canero.
• Motive:
  The root cause was believed to be money and jealousy.
• Unfathomable Violence from a Family Member:
  The hosts repeatedly express their inability to comprehend a family member committing such acts.

“He was a father of two daughters and a husband. So this isn't somebody who was an outlier who had a troubled life, who was always... No, he was a family man. So he understands intrinsically what that bond is and what that role is.”
– Amy Robach (15:11)

“You wipe out a branch of a family and you're a family member that did it. She said that it brought things home in a way... that I... you cannot understand.”
– T.J. Holmes (12:56)

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Paul Canero's Demeanor & Lack of Remorse (22:07–24:10)

• Canero’s Response:
  When offered a chance to speak, he said:

  “No, your honor, nothing.”
  – Paul Canero (22:07)

• Lack of Emotion or Remorse:
  Both hosts note his near total absence of emotion, except for a potential fleeting sign of anxiety.

“He was stone faced. That shocked me. Did you? I didn't see any emotion when the judge was going over just unthinkable acts of horrific, monstrous violence. And he did not appear to flinch.”
– Amy Robach (23:25)

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The Aftermath and Long Road Ahead (24:57–26:11)

• Possibility of Appeal:
  Canero has 45 days to appeal, and potentially further.
• Lingering Impact on the Family:
  The family may have to continue appearing at hearings for decades.

“This family is now probably in for decades of hearings and appeals and just really dedicating their lives to make sure that Paul Canero, in fact does not ever get out of his jail cell for the rest of his life.”
– Amy Robach (25:27)

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Notable Quotes

• On grief and justice:

  "A thousand years would not be enough.”
  – Jennifer Canero’s mother [approx. 11:36]

• On remorselessness:

  “You won’t even give this family that. You won’t even admit it and you won’t apologize or show any remorse for this.”
  – Amy Robach (04:31)

• On the severity:

  “He discussed us. He represents the very worst of humanity... she raised her voice sternly to say that he was pure evil.”
  – Amy Robach (11:45)

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Memorable and Emotional Moments (with Timestamps)

• Judge’s graphic, detailed recounting of the crimes: 06:30–08:32
• Mother’s victim impact statement (“A thousand years would not be enough”): 11:36
• Hosts’ struggle with the brutality and incomprehensibility of the crimes: 13:30–17:40
• Canero’s chilling lack of response when given the chance to speak: 22:07
• Discussion of the lifetime impact and process ahead for the victim’s family: 24:57–26:11

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Tone and Style

The hosts maintain a compassionate, candid, and at times raw tone. Both Amy and T.J. speak frankly about their emotional responses, with frequent moments of empathy for the victims and their families, as well as horror and disbelief at Paul Canero’s actions and demeanor.

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Conclusion

This episode is a powerful, somber chronicle of a family’s suffering and a community’s search for justice. Through detailed discussion, firsthand observation, and relaying direct quotes from the courtroom, Amy and T.J. give listeners a comprehensive and heartfelt account of the sentencing of Paul Canero—a case marked by staggering violence, enduring grief, and a long road toward healing for the surviving family.

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For those interested in true crime, courtroom drama, or the human side of legal proceedings, this episode offers a moving and unflinching look at the aftermath of unimaginable loss.

Transcript

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[Amy Robach]

It really, really was. And look, this is an opportunity at sentencing. Even though we knew there was a mandatory sentencing guideline for Paul Canero, given the atrociousness of the crimes he committed, and we can get into that to remind you. This was called the Colt's Neck murder trial. And we followed this day in and day out. And it was hard to listen to. But today this was the opportunity for the family, members of the entire family he took out to speak up. They are always told not to direct their way words towards the defendant, towards Paul Canero, but instead directed towards the judge. But they had powerful words about Paul Canero. And I also appreciated how much of what they said about the people who we lost. Not just the lives that were taken out, but the possibility, the future lives that were taken away. All of the possibilities that those young kids had ahead of them, all of that was taken away. It was, it was hard to keep a dry eye listening to their statements.

[T.J. Holmes]

It was very hard to, to hear a lot of what the judge actually said before the sentencing. We will explain, but just the reminder here. Paul Canero and this crime was seven plus years ago. Seven plus years ago. A family has been waiting for this day and for this justice. Again you are talking about him slaughtering his own niece and nephew who are 8 and 11. It's an incomprehensible crime. And today finally the families were able to hear the sentence. And again we should explain seven years. There were a bunch of delays just with legal back and forth. But it was covet as well gotten in there and everything got delayed. This has been a long time waiting for this.

[Amy Robach]

You use the word slaughter. That word was used often today. And also this phrase, an avalanche of evidence. And despite this avalanche of evidence and the viciousness of the crime, the premeditation this crime took, still to this day, Paul Canero claims he's innocent, maintains his innocence. And that really upset the family members and the judge himself too, saying you won't even give this family that. You won't even admit it and you won't apologize or show any remorse for this.

[T.J. Holmes]

And he had an opportunity to do all those things you mentioned today and he did not. He did speak in court. We will let you hear the few words he did have to say here in just a bit. But this was a day that we did have a packed room in the courthouse. I didn't actually see an empty seat in there, folks packed for this day, but they brought him in. And different today rose because during his Trial. We saw him come in and out and he was allowed to wear street clothes. He was allowed to dress an appropriate way to present himself to the jury. Not the case today. He has been convicted and he walked in today and he didn't sit. Also, it's worth noting, he wasn't sitting. He was by himself sitting in the court today.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, he was by himself, flanked, I believe with three police officers behind him. He was shackled, he was in yellow prison garb, just whatever they hand out there for prisoners. And his defense team was actually on the other side of where he was standing. So yes, he was removed basically from the rest of the courtroom and in a bright yellow jumpsuit.

[T.J. Holmes]

And he sat there for. And he had to for quite a while with the. This hearing that started, what was it, 8:30 Eastern Time, do I have that right? 8:30 Eastern Time. Ended up going about two hours. We weren't expecting it to go that long. In fact, when we watch these rogues, we think they might go a while because of the victim impact statements. Well, those were short and to the point today and very few speakers. It was the judge who ended up taking up most of the time today.

[Amy Robach]

I have to say I was shocked by the judge. Look, we have been following a lot of trials and throughout our careers we follow trials. Every judge is different, every courtroom is different. But I have never seen a judge go through and painstakingly go through the horrific nature of this crime beat by beat, moment by moment. He multiple times went into excruciating detail about what Paul Canara was convicted of doing and especially to his young niece. That was stomach turning. I actually couldn't imagine. Being the grandmother. Make me cry. Being the grandmother, being. Being the sister and listening to what happened to my beautiful family, like it was awful to listen to.

[T.J. Holmes]

It got to a point I almost thought it was inappropriate. I actually wanted the judge. I did too. I wanted him to stop and I understand what he was. I guess you have to put this stuff on the record. He has to explain why he's making legal determinations and why. Aggravating factors, right? No, and I get it, but we've a lot of trials. I ain't heard anything like this. And to be honest with you, maybe I haven't heard anything from a judge like this because quite frankly, I haven't really heard of a crime like this.

[Amy Robach]

That's a really good point, babe. I don't know if I've ever heard it described how a grown man who was known as Uncle Paul to this little girl and little Boy could stab an 8 year old 40 times and once through her navel cavity. I mean, he went into that detail crushing her skull with, with a knife. I mean, this is what the judge was reading aloud. And yes, I was imagining how difficult it would be to be a family member, but I also was thinking perhaps, I know there were legal reasons, but could it have also been punitive to Paul Canero? Like the judge wanted him to relive it, wanted him to hear it, wanted him to experience the shame and guilt and pain of what he did. And he wanted him to stand there while he was recounted every move Paul Canero made.

[T.J. Holmes]

And to that point he was standing there for quite a while. World, I would say it was certainly a half hour, but it might have been 45 minutes.

[Amy Robach]

I think it was over a half

[T.J. Holmes]

an hour to give him the sentence. So Canaro has to stand and the judge reads. Reid goes through count after count after count, crime after crime after crime, detail after detail about horrific it was. And finally he gets to the point and he gives him his sentence and rope. There was I think 17 counts that he was found guilty of. Of course the major ones have to do with murder, but there were others. But Rosie, we knew this going in. He's never getting out of prison.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, because beyond, beyond just the, I shouldn't say just, but beyond the quadruple homicide convictions, he also then set their home on fire. And in fact they pointed out the little girl, the eight year old died actually in part from the fire itself. So she didn't even die by all of those vicious wounds, just to add to how horrible her death must have been. But yes, 18 years for theft, 18 years for arson. 18 years for arson. Because he also set his own home on fire to try and make it look like both he and his brother were being targeted. And he got four life sentences and they were consecutive sentences without the possibility of parole. So, AKA this man, I believe the judge said something like your permanent address from here on out is the Department of Corrections. You will never live anywhere else in your life.

[T.J. Holmes]

Before he got to all he wanted to say, there were victim impact statements. Now he was saying the judge, I was, we were asking questions because he sounded like he wanted to keep it short. He didn't want everybody's to stand up or he said, I've read through all the. Apparently a bunch of letters and things came in and we understand that. But on behalf of the victims, there were what, three people? Only that went up. It was a friend or someone who was a co worker of Keith Canaro, who was the victim, and then the mom and the sister of Jennifer Canaro, Jennifer Carnero, who of course is the. The wife of Keith. And I think, without question, I think the mom was the most powerful and stirring statement we heard today.

[Amy Robach]

Just hearing you say that, I got chills from head to toe because she showed such strength. I was so impressed. She's been waiting seven years for this day. And she said that. And she talked about how Paul Canero stole the source of joy and happiness in our lives and replaced it with bottomless sadness, sorrow and grief. And they talked about both the mom and the sister, talked about how the father of Jennifer and the grandfather of those children died before getting to this day. And that was exceptionally sad because they had to wait so long for this day in court. He didn't get to see it through to this day. And that was an added sadness to an already horrific situation.

[T.J. Holmes]

She was, the mom was really powerful and she was the most emotional person of the day. But the motion was anger, right? And she didn't, she wasn't up there, just. She was pissed and wanted to get this off her chest.

[Amy Robach]

One of, I think the most powerful things she said was, well, there were several things, but this stood out. A thousand years would not be enough.

[T.J. Holmes]

What can you do, man?

[Amy Robach]

I understand that, but when she said your, like your niece and nephew were looking at their Uncle Paul killing them, I mean, she really brought it home. He discussed us. He represents the very worst of humanity. And she. There were times where she paused and she. She almost. I mean, she yelled. I mean, she was. She raised her voice sternly to say that he was pure evil.

[T.J. Holmes]

You know, it's. We, we, yes, we end up seeing a lot of these. I never felt a moment where she was going to break down and needed a tissue. She was strong. She was upset. Yes, she was emotional, but she was strong. And you could. She's been waiting seven years, like you said, for this robes. And then the sister gets up there and the foreign. It's hard to understand when you think that's four people, that's four birthdays, that's Thanksgiving, Christmas. You have. If you go through a year, think of all the times in somebody else's family you're in contact constantly because something momentous is happening. These kids were 8 and 11. 8 and 11. There's a lifetime of even just middle school graduation. They don't even have to go to high school. Throw in the birthdays. She said an entire branch of our family was erased. He took out People who were going to produce possibly more kids, more grandkids, cousins. And you wipe out a branch of a family and you're a family member that did it. She said that it brought things home in a way to merobes that I. You cannot understand. And they. Who was it the judge making the point like you killed your brother. You could have left.

[Amy Robach]

Why'd you have to go in and kill his wife? You killed the wife or niece and

[T.J. Holmes]

nephew even that the wife you could have left. What Robes, there is. It's an incomprehensible. There's. Nobody will ever get me to understand how what they describe happened to this little girl and that little boy. To understand how anybody, certainly a relative is capable of that. It is impossible to understand.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. When you hear this Little Jesse, an 11 year old is stabbed, I think he said 11 times. And that Sophia was stabbed 40 times. How do you do that to not just anyone's child but your own flesh and blood, your own relatives. And to do it that way is so vicious. That is rage. That is. They talked about jealousy, they talked about greed.

[T.J. Holmes]

She's eight and fifty pounds. It's impossible, Robes, to comprehend how anybody is capable of that. I'm telling you, I do not. I can't look at him and just say he's a bad guy or he's a monster. Nope, this goes well beyond Robes. There is something else happening here that is a. He might be the devil. Well, like Robes, it's impossible. Impossible to understand 50 pound girl and you stab her 40 times to the point that the knife penetrates her nasal cavity. Now ropes. They were talking. It goes through her. Her face in such a way. She's 50 pounds, 8 year old. And is your niece robed? I'm there.

[Amy Robach]

That. That's.

[T.J. Holmes]

I would like to understand this. I'd like to understand that he is not normal. Something else is happening here and he needs to be studied. That rope is. You cannot do that.

[Amy Robach]

It's. And people aren't capable and to live a life. He was a father of two daughters and a husband. So this isn't somebody who was an outlier who had a troubled life, who was always. No, he was a family man. So he understands intrinsically what that bond is and what that role is. So that to me just the fact that he was able and truly I would say leading a double life because if that other side of him was there all along, it had to be. He then was obviously pretending to be something that he wasn't. And to your point, you said it at the top, I believe Jennifer's sister Bonnie said, called him Satan in the courtroom. Satan is in this room. And Satan stole weddings, graduations, all for temporary material wealth.

[T.J. Holmes]

Ropes, I. This. I don't get it. This is one, this is the, the little girl in particular. Oh, it's incomprehensible what he has done and into. You were saying earlier, Rose, that you're mourning like somebody's gone, but you're mourning what could have been. You're mourning what those kids could have become. You're mourning what kids they could have had. You're mourning what weddings you could have seen. You're mourning what graduations. You're mourning everything that did not take place because of your actions. Her. Oops. I. I would love for somebody to study this guy. You cannot. There's not. We've heard about some horrific murders and murderers and serial killers and all kinds of stuff. Like I said, I was a bad dude. He was messed up in the head. Ropes, you can't do this to an 8 year old kid and be okay in the head.

[Amy Robach]

No, it's not possible. And I know you were mentioning all the. And they talked about how many days in the calendar year they suffer. This happened two days before Thanksgiving, by the way. So holidays gone, done. Now you've got all the birthdays and the anniversaries and the celebrations in any other holiday. But they mentioned, I believe the mom said this, that Jennifer and Keith were actually born on the same day. They had the same birthday. And she said and now they have the same death day. They came into the world and left the world on the same day. That. That stuck with me. Just, just how unnecessary all of this is. And these poor, these poor family members left. They said there isn't a day that goes by. There isn't an hour that goes by that she doesn't think about, obviously the beautiful family that they lost, but just how they left this world with such fear and such terror.

[T.J. Holmes]

And all this was over money. He had a house of cars they said that was falling down and it was imminent and he had to do something or he was going to be found out. His whole life, his whole livelihood, his way of life was going to be blown up. And he decides to go kill this family, sets fire to that home, goes back to his house, sets fire to that home in some way to try to cover up or try to at least make it look like somebody was targeting the two families. And that's why the arson and all that's in there. But it was a. It's a, it's an incomprehensible crime.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. And he implied on trial, not implied during trial. His defense was that his other brother was the one responsible. So he murders one brother and tries and maligns the other and says that he's the one who killed a brother, not him. I mean, he really is probably the worst sibling that has ever existed.

[T.J. Holmes]

And with that, his, his defense team was in the courtroom as well. They had a moment to speak and they, I don't know what she could actually say. She just, I don't even know why she was speaking, but she said my job here is to represent him and blah, blah, blah, blah. But she said he does still maintain his innocence. But when time came for Paul Canero to speak, he was asked and then asked again. We'll tell you the only words we heard Paul Canero speak in court today. Stay here.

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[Amy Robach]

Yeah. He said no, your honor, nothing. I mean he even kind of pronounced nothing. And I'm curious what your take was on his demeanor because as we were listening to this powerful, these powerful victim impact statements from Jennifer's mom, from Jennifer's sister, What would you, how would you describe Paul Canero's demeanor? Because the camera would pan back over to him and zoom in while they were saying just gutting things. How would you describe his face

[T.J. Holmes]

bordering on doing a great impression of a human being. We saw him during the trial, of course, and he sat, no facial expression. That was nothing to him. In their work coming in, all the V neck sweaters and all that, nothing to him Today. I actually turned to you at one point, I said, is there emotion on his face? And we don't want to go as far as saying there was. He was close to crying or breaking down. But the only time it looked, I don't even want to use the word softening. But where there was something to him that suggested he might be a human being capable of some emotion, it was only a slight hint of that. And it was only for a moment. I think it was when the mom or the sister, I think it Was the mom.

[Amy Robach]

It was the mom, I believe. And I only could see it. There was a little bit of his bottom lip. I felt like moved slightly. And I was looking at his throat like he was swallowing a lot. Like he was. He was experiencing anxiety, but he didn't want to show it. I was, I was blown away, babe. When the judge, as we pointed out, was going through just this almost impossible to listen to moment by moment scenario of what Paul Canero did to his family members. And he was stone faced. That shocked me. Did you. I didn't see any emotion when the judge was going over just unthinkable acts of horrific, monstrous violence. And he did not appear to flinch.

[T.J. Holmes]

That is when he went back to the Paul Canaro we saw during the trial. He did not at all. While we're sitting here in tears and breaking down in our chairs and we're in New York, right, having nothing, we're not there. We're not a family member. We couldn't even stand to hear some of the stuff the judge was saying.

[Amy Robach]

I thought to my stomach felt sick.

[T.J. Holmes]

Nothing.

[Amy Robach]

And he just sat there and he almost looked defiant. And I think what he's told himself, well, I'm innocent. So you can go ahead and say all these things, but I'm not the one who did them. I could almost see his brain telling himself that because that's the only way you could keep a stoic facial expression while you heard this horrific crime unfold.

[T.J. Holmes]

And what would the day the judge said he has, what, 45 days to appeal? I think it is. And then even after that you can appeal. You got 30 more days to appeal if you can show some exception, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, we don't know if he's going to appeal. He says he maintains his innocence, so maybe there will be one. But what a day in court. A horrific day in court. But man, I hope that this can least start. Start the process, I guess a piece of some kind. But robes. What if there is an appeal? They got to keep showing up to hearings.

[Amy Robach]

That's the tough part. That is the tough part for victims that we've seen the way our justice system work and it. The way it has to work to make sure we have the right people behind bars. But yes, this family is now probably in for decades of hearings and appeals and just really dedicating their lives to make sure that Paul Canero, in fact does not ever get out of his jail sale for the rest of his life.

[T.J. Holmes]

All right. And that is what has been determined. What do you think? I kind of miss the judges talking so much. But to say the life sentences, you get four of them and they're consecutive.

[Amy Robach]

Consecutive. Ain't no way he's getting out of jail.

[T.J. Holmes]

So after you serve your life and die, then you got to serve again and die then got to serve. That's, that's, that's a hell of a sentence.

[Amy Robach]

But don't forget the 18 years for

[T.J. Holmes]

the other charges in addition to once you get through the four life. Yeah, so he's not getting out of prison, but we just wanted to give the update on a story we follow very closely and certainly wanted to button it up here with sentencing day for Paul Canaro. Four consecutive life sentences for killing his brother, his brother's wife, and his own niece and nephew. We always appreciate you folks spending some time with us. From my dear Amy Robach, I'm T.J. holmes. We'll talk to y' all soon.

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