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There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Left a woman behind to drown.
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Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal.
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Welcome everyone, to this edition of Amy and TJ. It is Tuesday, August 26th. It is back to school time. Parents. A lot of us have dropped our kids off at college campuses across the country. And I know a lot of high school students are already back in session. Some folks are getting ready to. But this is a time of excitement. It's a time of joy, a little bit of anxiety as we leave our kids, hopefully in safe hands. And a series of frightening events is taking place at college campuses across this country, and it's happening repeatedly and far too often. TJ you and I both got phone calls yesterday.
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Yeah. We read a lot of news and we stay up on a lot of news. And we've been informed plenty over the past week, really, about active shooter incidents on several college campuses. We get those alerts from breaking news emails. We get them from watching the news. We get them from reading the news. We got these two from family members because our family members are in very close proximity to two college campuses where there were two active shooter hoaxes. One, my alma mater, I don't have a family member enrolled. Had niece and nephew in recent years, but my sister lives in that area, my niece, and still lives up there. And of course, Annelise, a sophomore now at the University of Colorado, who was just. Just dropped off there officially by you last Thursday and Friday. So we are talking onto three days after you left her at Boul. You get a message saying there's an active shooter on her campus?
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Yeah, she started FaceTiming me, and she was a little out of breath, and I didn't actually answer the FaceTime. I was in the middle of something. I said, hey, what's going on? Figuring she just wanted to ask me for money or something. And she said, this is serious, Mom. Can you call me? And she was worried. And I get it. I sat there and prepared her. You know, I get nervous about the Idaho murders. I talk about locking your doors and making sure that everyone's responsible about keeping the house secure and everyone understands how important security is. I have to admit, I didn't expect.
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To get that call at this point. Right. Isn't. We talked about this last week, and if folks, you all have been keeping up, you know, I don't know what to call it necessary necessarily. It's not a rash anymore. It seems like it's gone beyond that. It's not quite an epidemic of it, but it is a trend. It is startling and it is scary as hell. But we talked about it last week. Thursday was the first one we heard of. All of you all know Villanova, but Rose, we Talked about it on our podcast and episod in our morning run. The news, the news podcast that we do. We said, man, can you imagine how a parent, a loved one would feel? Can you imagine? Yes, everything's okay, but can you imagine you just dropped your kid off and left. And then you look on the news and it's the parents worst nightmare, whether they're in elementary school, junior high, high school, college. We said, man, imagine how that feels for those parents. And then boom, on Monday, you were the parent.
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I just got chills because I remember that conversation and trying to put myself in that position. I would say, thankfully, but maybe this is even scarily, that because we had just been reporting on these hoaxes, I didn't get immediately alarmed. But had there not been a string of these, I would have panicked immediately. And I should have regardless, because we don't know what's a hoax and what's not. And I think maybe that's the most frightening thing about all of this. You know, I didn't even know the term and I guess I'm behind the times, but swatting. I actually asked you, swatting. What's swatting?
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You know what you'll remember, it wasn't college campuses that were initially targeted back in the day when this first started. And I think they charged and made examples out of some guys, but they were sending it to people's homes, wasn't it these jerks that were involved in like online gaming.
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Look, it started back in the, in 2010 and they were, they were targeting celebrities, they were targeting politicians. And then as recently as last year, do you remember the long string string of swatting incidents? One teenager was involved in historically black colleges and going after certain specific types of campuses and he was charged with making. It was a. Dozens and dozens of these hoax false alarms that people took seriously because of course you would. You have to these days. So swatting, technically, this is the definition. It's the deliberate practice of making a false report to police to summon law enforcement. Enforcement who believe a mass shooting, a hostage situation or a bombing is taking place, therefore calling in the SWAT team.
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So you're swatting and your community, they did this to. To. It was. It was gamers who were actually online playing against each other. They get into some kind of beef and one of them would call and swat the other person's. And there was video of these. Like the guys would be in the middle of a game and all of a sudden the SWAT team is busting in. And yes, they made some arrests in that case. So swatting necessarily, folks, it's. You've heard of it is not necessarily new, but this string and this, this latest string of them happening on college campuses and you send a whole community running, tens of thousands of kids and on top of all this ropes, Yesterday was the first day of classes for.
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A lot of people. It's it, you know, it. This breaks my heart. And all of these calls that started on Thursday, we don't know if one person's involved, if multiple people are involved. Whoever's respons responsible for some or all of these has not been caught yet. But these calls all have eerily similar trademarks. It's almost as if they're following a script.
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You know, I didn't think about that until you just said it. What if there is one person it could be for all these. It's not a copycat situation.
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They call in and it's a male voice. That's what has been reported. And they say that a male, sometimes they say a white male with an army 15 style rifle shot X amount of people or are is shooting people right now. And a lot of these, they specifically reference the campus library. The school library. So you again, it started on Thursday. Villanova active shooter on campus. Shots fired in the law school. That was on Thursday. Villanova then also had a second scare on Sunday. The University of Tennessee at Chattanooga had a call on Thursday as well. More than 100 officers responded because they have to, because they have to assume the worst.
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These were hours away. So this is what started. All right, Villanova and UT Chattanooga. Yes, the one at Villanova got a lot more attention. It's a much bigger school, more well known school, if you will. No offense to the folks at Chattanooga, but that was new student orientation. There weren't just kids running freshman orientation, parents, there were a bunch of families on campus still. And this is how you start your college experience. So that got so much attention. Attention. Chattanooga didn't get as much, but yeah, they went through hell. Same day, hours apart, these two incidents. So we all looked and thought, well, hell, some idiot. All right, let's move on with our day. And then Sunday happened.
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Yeah, and then Sunday happens. The University of South Carolina, two separate reports of an active shooter on campus. Both were made by, they believe, police believe it was the same person, the same male voice. They said it was similar. That included background noise and mimicked gunfire. So they actually, whoever this was upped the ante and made it feel and seem even more real. And look, can you imagine you're a, you're a student on campus, and you get an alert on your phone that says, run, hide, fight. An active shooter. So there are reports of students. Ah, I just. It's heartbreaking. Running, barricading themselves, locking themselves in bathrooms, hiding under desks, running for their lives, sheltering in place, sobbing, sending desperate texts and phone calls to their parents. I mean, you think you're gonna die all real.
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You're thinking somebody's making a joke in a room somewhere. Somebody might actually be laughing at what they're doing. But literally, people thinking they might die.
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Disgusting.
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On the first day of college, for God's sake. So.
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Yeah, exactly. You're. You're already nervous and anxious. You're leaving your family for the first time. You're starting off this whole new part of your life. You're adulting for the first time in this. The worst case scenario happens. So that's Thursday, we've had two. Sunday, we had two. Then yesterday, Monday, six more swatting calls. University of Arkansas. This was significant, babe. They actually. They actually took the most dramatic response. They canceled classes at the University of.
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Arkansas on day one of the fall, by the way.
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Yes. Fayetteville Public schools also locked down. They got multiple calls about an active shooter, once again at the library. But then they got other calls that made them end up. They ended up having to search and go through room by room, floor by floor, of seven separate buildings on University of Arkansas campus in Fayetteville.
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I think about it how. You're. How Annalise called you. Right. She immediately reached out to you, said something was going on. And so what happens? Imagine the chaos. There are some parents who wouldn't just talk through with the cop. They'll hang up and call cops.
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Yes.
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And that was. Is what was happening at the University of Arkansas. There was such chaos that even though there was no shooter, word starts trickling around. Now somebody hears a door slam, or they see other people running, or it's this building. It's that building. I thought I saw something. And all these calls start coming in, and it's chaos. So it takes them hours to just say, hey, everything's okay. And then, hey, this was a joke. I hate using the word joke, but somebody did this as a hoax, and that's what that means. And to think with Rose how many times we said it. There's something unique about a campus. Community. School community. High school community. Yeah, that it's all. But there's something unique about a campus community because it. Sometimes they feel like they're more a representation of a. It's not just happening to black folks or white folks, Hispanic folks or this like a campus community is more of a whole in a lot of ways, I would argue, and a community than I think the country or a city or a state.
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We keep going back. We're going back to the University of Arkansas campus this fall. We're going back to Georgia. I mean, yes, you keep coming back.
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And to doing something like this. It shakes the hell out of a campus. Community, community. And we have been to enough campuses and school campuses after a shooting and see what that does to people. And even though nobody got hurt, nobody got shot, they are shook.
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Yeah, they are. Again. So I like. And I was just actually reading what was being sent out to students and imagining how that must felt. So I said South Carolina. Their text. Oh, no. The University of Tennessee was Run, hide, fight. The University of Arkansas sent out avoid, deny, defender. So, you know, each campus has these instructions to students in case they encounter the shooter or in case they're in an unsafe place. Here's what you should do. Avoid, deny, defend. That is what the University of Arkansas sent students on the first day of school. You get that text.
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I cannot imagine I'm more partial to run, hide, fight. You get the idea. They started doing this years ago because they have to. If you need to get a message out and you can't say, hey, you need to stay away from the library because so and so we got a report about it. You need to tell people, this is what you got to do right now. You need to run to get away from danger. That is option one. Then they tell you, well, if you're not able to run, option two is hide. If you're not able to do that, your last resort is to fight and defend your life. And that is a. Unfortunately, we have to use it. But that one works. Run, hide, fight. You know what that means? Yeah, you don't need. Nothing else needs to be explained in order.
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That is what you should do. Iowa State University, two false reports of an active shooter at the library. And then another incident they said claimed at the dormitory, one of the dormitories, one of the residence halls. So that was at Iowa State University on Monday, Kansas State University, they also had a call of an active shooter at the campus library. University of New Hampshire got a scary phone call. Shots fired, campus library. So they've, you know, they're getting the call. Shots have been fired. Northern Arizona University Police were told there was an active shooter again at the campus library. Library. And then the University of Colorado Boulder, where I got this Call from Anneliese. We were at dinner. It was 5pm in Boulder, Colorado. There were reports of an active shooter at the campus library, which Annie and I have been to multiple times. The only reason why I think I wasn't as panicked was because she had already finished classes for the day. And she was back at her house, which is just shy of campus. I mean, she is across the street from campus. But I knew she wasn't in class. But her really good friend Jenna was in class when it happened. And so she told me. Jenna talked about the panic, people running from the classrooms. People literally hysterically trying to get out of harm's way. And it just was so sad to think about this beautiful campus thrown into such chaos.
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This is the same campus nearby not too long ago that had an incident of the anti Semitic, Semitic attack there. So again, you've been out boulders. Boulder is as chill as it gets. It's a great town.
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Rocky Mountains, gorgeous scenery. This beautiful little college campus with shops and restaurants. It is idyllic.
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This is fear. This is trauma. But you just mentioned something about how you were. You knew she wasn't on campus, so you had a little relief.
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Yes.
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And therein lies the problem. Because part of your relief as well is because you've been covering for the past several days that there have been a number of hoaxes. Yes, that's in the back of our mind. And that is the problem. Because in two weeks, in three weeks, in a month and six months, who knows when that there's a possibility that somebody for real is going to step onto a campus and try to do harm and try to shoot a place up. And that call is going to go in to 911 and the students are going to look at their phones and see it. You know what they're going to do is roll their eyes and they're going to. Even if they hesitate for half a step, that could be life and death. That is what this is doing. The boy who cried wolf. What age were we when we learned that?
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Man.
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And so now here we go. Another one. Oh, it's another one. It's another one. Oh, it's another one. You talk about the hurricanes all the time. Some people don't leave because, ah, we've been through this before.
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It misses us every time. What are the chances this actually is going to hit?
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And that is going to possibly what we're seeing ropes cost somebody harm or death because of what's happening right now. And somebody just h hesitates a half a step when they need to be Hauling ass. And this thing has messed us all up.
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No, no, we're not doing that this season.
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What the heck? That's us.
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In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.
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Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's teddy escapes blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
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Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
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The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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American history is full of wise people.
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Walt Whitman said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory. Those Founding Fathers were gossipy AF, and they loved to cut each other down.
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I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the.
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Greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar.
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And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
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My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said.
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It would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult, but it happens all the time to people just like you and people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc. And I'm Megan Elizabeth. Where the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me. New episodes every Wednesday on Exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Noah. I'm 13, and as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would, if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you know with Noah DeBorosso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means. For the rest of you, it's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. When I'm watching everything.
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Sheesh.
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Majority of the youth 18 through 24 say they trust Republicans more than Democrats to fund the economy.
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You kidding me?
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Politics is wild and I'm definitely not here to tame it, but I'm here to make sense of it. Just what's happening, why it matters, and what it means for us. Bring your brain. Listen to now youw Know with Noah de Barrasta on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to this edition of Amy and tj where we are talking about these series of very serious, very consequential hoaxes that are plaguing college campuses across our country. In the past few days, this has been personal for TJ and me because it has hit very close to home. People we love were scared. People we loved were afraid. And frankly, we all should be concerned because this technology that's out there for someone or several people to pull off these elaborate hoaxes is growing. Voice over Internet protocol services. That's what it's called. But it makes These hoaxes more elaborate. And it makes them so that the people who are committing these crimes or the person very difficult to catch because it's these false numbers that can just generate phone calls. You can change the quality of your voice. You can add background noise. One of these callers into one of these universities, I believe it was the University of Tennessee, Chattanooga, actually had gunfire in the background to make it seem more real. The technology is getting better and that makes these hoaxes scarier.
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And look, I mean, we talk about VoIP voice over Internet protocol, but I mean, a burner phone might be simple as not. And we're speaking on this and some authorities have spoken on this particular thing. And so we're not revealing any secrets necessarily with this. But. But how do you catch these folks? And I'm not sure what the penalties are, but I think they are severe. They have made them more severe over the years. Is it anything other than, you know, what I thought about Shador Sanders? You remember that prank that somebody played during the NFL tournament?
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It was terrible.
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And it turned out to be the son of a coach sitting in a room thinking he's doing no harm. Thinking he's doing no harm. This is funny to me. Is someone you could be. Is someone just an idiot out there thinking this is funny? A couple kids in a room thinking this is funny? It's possible. But how nefarious, how troubled are the people making these calls? I don't know what to. I was even debating robes. We were debating should we even be doing this story?
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We've had that conversation because, look, as we covered in the national media more and more of these school shootings, the decision was ultimately made by the newsrooms we worked in to not to one time, like the first day, acknowledge who the shooter is, but never say his name again. And that was to make sure that we didn't give anyone else an idea to become famous or infamous, notorious by having their name live on because they are the shooter. So we made a point not to give any glory, so to speak, or attention to the people behind the shooting. And we really did have that conversation. Like, should we be covering this? Because we know copycats exist and if this is one person who keeps doing it over and over again or a small group of people, they're going to be fueled by the fame, they're going to be excited by the attention. Unfortunately, that is possibly and probably what these people are looking for.
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They get off on looking at the television and go, wow, I did that.
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Yep. And that's just. And that's scary because that means it's only going to get worse. And look, when we talk about the damage done, yes, there is significant emotional trauma done to anyone who is sitting in a classroom and who has gone through these drills in high school. Because yes, unfortunately our kids have lived through this era where they have had to learn how to handle a potential mass shooting in a classroom setting. So they're, they're on edge already in a way that we never had to be because they've been exposed to this. So now they're extra traumatized when the worst case scenario they think is happening in real time. But even worse, you've got now think about this. Hundreds of police officers, fire officials, emergency medical, EMT teams, everyone rushing to one area. Heaven forbid those resources are needed somewhere else. Someone has a heart attack, there's a horrific car accident, there's whatever trauma that happens on a daily basis. And some of these small communities don't have emergency personnel despair now. They are diverted to something that is non existent. Someone could die who actually needs help because the resources they need are somewhere else trying to help out a situation that doesn't even exist.
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You said they don't have resources to spare. That includes money. All of this costs. University of Arkansas Fayetteville the response it takes, you're not just bringing in all the guys who are on duty at the time, but the time it takes, the overtime. All these things cost money for these extra bodies. And I know it doesn't seem like much of a deal every time you see a police officer show up. Yeah, he just shows up. You're a taxpayer. But this drains folks in certainly smaller communities. Yeah, Chattanooga, you think they're awash in dough for their law enforcement. Oh, this is horrific stuff. Hope it stops. I was looking. I did a good look before we started. I'm sure you did too, to make sure there wasn't another one today, right?
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I know. I mean, fingers crossed, it hasn't happened yet. But you think about how like I, I know you probably look to too, babe, but the amount of incidents that are happening, it's escalating in a very disturbing way. So estimated swatting incidents jumped from 400 in 2011. I think that's when they first started seeing it, right around 2000. I think that maybe the first one was in 2008, but they started to see them en masse in 2011. It jumped to a thousand incidents in 2019. And then just last year, from January 2023 to January 2024, there were 800 incidents recorded at elementary, middle and high schools. So it's just, it's rapidly increasing in a significant way. And now this year we're seeing what we're seeing. Last year that California teenager admitted to making hundreds of swatting calls targeting historically black colleges, high schools, FBI agents, a Florida mosque. He admitted to doing it and was able to do it in a large quantity with one person. That's all it took. One 17 year old out of California created all this havoc, made over a hundred phone calls and scared the heck out of everybody. And I don't know if that is what perhaps is a copycat or what's triggering this, this new round of swatting, but God, I hope they find out whoever did this or whoever is responsible or however many people are responsible, they.
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Need to find them, make an example, throw the book at them and then that's will discourage others from doing it in the future. And maybe that's all. Look, thankfully, and I haven't seen make sure you have any of, not a single injury necessarily involved, not yet in any of these, but somebody is, could potentially get hurt just running away. Hell, a heart attack from somebody in a stressful situation. So that hasn't happened yet and that's a blessing. But hopefully this is just a weird stretch of things that have happened and again we would we have done. I don't know what are the chances right on the same day, within hours we are getting alerts from our loved ones who are near these campuses saying hey guys, this is going on. So it's time I remembered this. And I cannot remember, sweetheart. I believe it's the 25th anniversary, University of Arkansas, the 25th anniversary to almost the day of a shooting on campus in which a student shot and killed a professor. Wow. At Kempel hall that you have been in, where the journalism department is. This is a campus, it happens every now. But this is a campus that has been shaken by violence and death. Death before. And I always remember when it was because it was a year after I graduated. So I know it was 25 years ago, August I think 29th. I know this off the top of my head.
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Wow.
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But it that I was off campus by a year. I graduated. But I as I'm sitting here looking at you, didn't think about it. I am, I was shaken enough that I know the date and I could probably walk you right to the room where it happened because I remember a professor there in the journalism department, he was a doctoral student, shot and killed him in his office on campus, right there in the building. You have been In. Yeah, this stuff stays with you. And if that's not an indication of it does. This stuck with me and I didn't think about it until 2000.
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And you weren't even there when it happened.
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No, I graduated a year later.
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But it was a building you knew in a school you loved on a campus that you call home.
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And that stuff just, it doesn't go away. We were on the campus of Virginia Tech. You'll never forget that one. I think that's the worst deal in this country's history. Universities have had shootings. The worst we've seen though are at school, elementary schools, high schools really in this country. So I know we've seen Virginia Tech, but still something about us. We're still kind of programmed to. Not necessarily. It's a one off. Right. Virginia Tech was what year?
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It was a long time ago. Yeah, it was that long ago.
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It was so long ago. But you remember, you've all.
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You never forget, right?
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Parkland, all these things at some smaller school. I just. When it's happening on a college campus, we're paying attention in a different way. So yeah, this is just. We've been rattled and we're rattled now and thankfully everybody's okay. But it's just to think that somebody might be having fun with this when a parent like you is terrified. But it's fun to somebody sitting in a room laughing when a parent like you and so many others are freaked out that their kid's life is in danger and somebody might be sitting around laughing about this.
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It's. It's sickening. There's no other way to put it. And yes, we were personally touched by this yesterday and wanted to just talk it through with everyone and recognize that while we obviously can view any of these news reports within the perspective that there have been a series of hoaxes, but also keeping our guards up and keeping our, our just our children alert and making sure that we have at least communication like this is a chance for you to talk to your kids, chance to talk to your student about what? What if the worst case scenario happens, Have a plan, let them know what they should do, have that conversation just in case. Not to scare them, but to prepare them. And it's tough that we live in these times, but we do, unfortunately, and we hope this comes to. And we certainly hope they find out who is responsible for these series of squatting hoax phone calls because they have real consequences. Thank you all for listening to us today. I'm Amy Robach alongside my partner TJ Holmes. Have a Great day, everybody.
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I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions. Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree?
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Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
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And I find the answers.
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I'm so glad you asked me this question. This is such a ridiculous story.
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So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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There are many versions of what happened in 1960 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
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Left a woman behind to drown.
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Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, it's Honey German, and I'm back with season two of my podcast. Gracias. Come again. We got you. When it comes to the latest in music and entertainment, with interviews with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities, you didn't have to audition.
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No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned in, like, over 25 years.
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Oh, wow. That's a real G talk right there.
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Oh, yeah.
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No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season.
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Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.
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Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not gonna wanna miss it. My name is Curly.
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And I'm Maya.
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Wealth podcast with John Hope Bryant is tapping in.
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I'm breaking down how to build wealth, create opportunities, and move from surviving to thriving.
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