”Before An Innocent Man Is Executed….”

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode: "Before An Innocent Man Is Executed..."
Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Amy Robach & TJ Holmes

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Episode Overview

In this riveting episode, Amy Robach and TJ Holmes delve into the urgent and harrowing case of Anthony Todd Boyd, a death row inmate in Alabama scheduled to be executed by nitrogen gas. The episode centers around Boyd's desperate last-minute plea of innocence, the controversial circumstances of his conviction, persistent doubts about his guilt, and the broader context of capital punishment trends in America. The hosts critically examine the fairness of Boyd's trial, the evidence used against him, and Alabama's new execution protocols, painting a complex picture of the American justice system at its most consequential moment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Final Plea and the Human Story

• Boyd's Voice Message to the Governor
  • Anthony Boyd left a four-minute voice memo directly to the governor of Alabama, imploring her to visit him on death row before executing "an innocent man."
  • Amy Robach (03:56): “He is scheduled to die by nitrogen gas at 6pm tomorrow... he is begging the governor of Alabama to sit down and talk with him, to look him in the eye.”
  • TJ Holmes (13:47): "He said in there plenty of times... when you sit down with me, if you feel, if you look at me and you think I'm being deceptive...go ahead, carry out the punishment.”
• Notable Quote:
  • Amy Robach quoting Boyd (12:37): “Come sit down with me and have a conversation with the guy that you deemed one of the worst of the worst… that's innocent on Alabama's death row.”
• Context: This unusual, direct plea highlights the human element behind the case, a rare and emotional aspect of executions.

2. The Case Against Anthony Boyd

• Convicted in 1993 for kidnapping and murder as part of a group of four men.
• All evidence against him was eyewitness testimony; no physical evidence (no fingerprints or forensics) ever linked him to the crime.
  • Amy Robach (05:12): “There were no fingerprints, forensics, nothing."
• Boyd has maintained his innocence for over thirty years.
  • TJ Holmes (07:02): “He has always maintained his innocence...”
• Circumstances of the Crime:
  • Victim: Gregory Huley, burned alive over a $200 drug debt.
  • Boyd was convicted largely on the testimony of a co-defendant who received a lighter sentence in exchange.

3. Serious Issues at Trial

• Inadequate Legal Representation:
  • Boyd had a court-appointed attorney paid a capped fee of $1,000 (later described as $11,000 overall), who asked to be taken off the case before trial due to lack of preparation time.
    • Amy Robach (08:45): “His attorney...complained and said, I don't want this case. I can't take this on...The judge said, too bad. You’ve got a month. Figure it out.”
  • Defense failed to call any alibi witnesses or interview prosecution witnesses.
  • Conflict of interest: The prosecutor was the defense attorney’s former boss.
    • Amy Robach (09:40): “The prosecutor...was his attorney’s former boss.”
• Jury Decision:
  • Boyd was sentenced to death on a 10-2 jury vote — allowable only in Alabama and Florida.
    • Amy Robach (18:21): "Alabama and Florida, the only two states...where you can have a non-unanimous jury vote...and yet still get the death penalty."

4. Efforts to Stop the Execution

• Repeated Legal Appeals:
  • Boyd has been denied relief by every court for years, including recent stays denied even amid growing concerns.
• Controversial Execution Method:
  • Boyd is scheduled to be executed by nitrogen gas— a relatively new and highly controversial method.
    • Amy Robach (16:06): “...He is asthmatic and...is going to suffer perhaps more than normal...”
    • TJ Holmes (17:29): "Nitrogen hypoxia...essentially beings suffocate by denying your body of oxygen."
  • Boyd even offered to be executed by hanging or firing squad, indicating his fear of the nitrogen method.
    • Amy Robach (17:04): “The fact that you would prefer to be hanged is incredible to me...”

5. Alabama’s Unique Execution Procedures

• Extended Execution Window:
  • Alabama now gives itself a 30-hour window in which to carry out executions, a rule created after previous botched lethal injections.
    • TJ Holmes (25:34): “They give themselves a 30-hour window...so they have until 6 o’clock the next morning to finish the job.”
    • Amy Robach (26:40): “...it seems even more anxiety-inducing to know there’s a 30 hour window in which you could die...”
  • This means Boyd could be executed any time from scheduled evening through the next day.

6. Broader Context: The State of Capital Punishment

• Execution Trends:
  • Boyd would be the 39th person executed in the U.S. this year— the highest number since 2015.
    • TJ Holmes (14:37): "There is the 40th on the books...Boyd would be the 39th person executed in the United States this year."
  • Alabama and Oklahoma are notable for leading in the use of nitrogen gas executions.
• National Debate:
  • The increasing rate of executions and persistent doubts about guilt raise ongoing questions about justice, fairness, and the methods used.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Injustice of Representation:

  • TJ Holmes (09:47): “When somebody's life is on the line...you want better representation that this guy seemed to have. This seems to be a travesty…”

• On the Emotional Impact:

  • Amy Robach (27:50): “Just with his impassioned plea to the governor, it certainly just brought some humanity to a legal remedy to crime that we have in this country that is certainly controversial. But to hear...the other side of it, to hear from the inmate directly, we don't often get to do that."

• On the Systemic Issues:

  • Amy Robach (10:42): “He’s been turned away and turned down time after time...Even in October, there was a district judge...She basically just said you shouldn’t expect not to be in pain...that’s the way it’s going to be.”

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Important Timestamps

• 03:27: Episode kicks off in earnest with news about Boyd’s voice memo plea.
• 05:12-07:32: Background on the crime, lack of evidence, and case details.
• 08:45-10:14: Deep dive into problems with Boyd’s legal representation.
• 12:37: Boyd’s direct quoted plea to the governor.
• 14:37: Discussion on execution statistics and Alabama’s use of nitrogen gas.
• 18:21: Non-unanimous jury verdicts for capital cases in Alabama and Florida.
• 25:34: Explanation of Alabama’s 30-hour execution window.
• 27:50: Reflections on the emotional and human impact of Boyd’s last plea.

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Episode Takeaways

• The case of Anthony Boyd illuminates major concerns about the fairness and finality of death penalty convictions, especially when based on questionable evidence and inadequate defense.
• Alabama’s evolving, and at times disturbing, execution procedures highlight logistical, ethical, and humanitarian challenges of capital punishment.
• Personal touches—like playing Boyd’s actual plea—underscore the need to consider the humanity behind headlines and statistics.
• The episode is a sobering exploration of justice, doubt, and irreversible consequences.

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Hosts’ Tone:
Reflective, empathetic, and critical—Amy and TJ do not present themselves as legal experts but as journalists and thoughtful citizens deeply unsettled by the issues raised in Boyd’s case and the broader capital punishment system.

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Transcript

[Amy Robach]

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[TJ Holmes]

Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, October 22, and a man left a four minute voice message for the governor of Alabama. Please don't execute me. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. That's literally what he said. But it was more to it than that. This death row inmate in Alabama wants the governor to come see him before he's executed. And the clock is ticking.

[Amy Robach]

It certainly is. He is scheduled to die by nitrogen gas at 6pm tomorrow. That's Thursday evening. And in this plea, he maintains his innocence as he has for more than 30 years. He was convicted, he was among four people that were convicted in this kidnapping and murder of a man in 1993 in the state of Alabama. But again, he has maintained his innocence and he is begging the governor of Alabama to sit down and talk with him, to look him in the eye.

[TJ Holmes]

And the man's name is Anthony Todd Boyd. And folks, you have probably noticed here on our feed, we have covered quite a bit of executions because frankly, there have been quite a bit in this country this year. We've been talking about that. This is another, and you could argue robes. Even though October has been a pretty, pretty busy month, if you will, in executions, there are some people who will roll their eyes and say they all say they're innocent. And I understand that. I think there's everybody in prison, a very few raising their hands and say, yeah, I did it. Keep me in here. But there are some here that have raised some serious questions. This seems to be another.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. And it's not just one or two people saying this. The Death Penalty Information center is a place we've actually used a source of information for a lot of these executions. But their latest headline published today, despite serious concerns about trials, fairness and Anthony Boyd's innocence, Alabama plans to execute him using nitrogen gas. Yes, there are a lot of questions about his representation at the time and the fact that the only reason why or the only bit of evidence used against him was eyewitness Testimony which we all know is the least reliable. There was and is no. There were no fingerprints, forensics, nothing. So when you really look at this case, when you're just. Obviously we're not legal experts here, but it does draw into question whether or not this man got a fair shape.

[TJ Holmes]

Well, there are several of these executions where guys that admitted guilt. There are several where there is not the Innocence Project there banging down the door saying this person's innocent. So no, there are some. There aren't these questions, but there seem to be too many and several lately where there are these questions. Even last week as we sit here, one execution was stayed because there are questions about the innocence, the guilt or innocence of the man on death row that was in Texas, Robert.

[Amy Robach]

Robert Robertson.

[TJ Holmes]

Robert Robertson. So this does seem to be another. And we're going to go back at least maybe not a name you all know. Anthony Todd Boyd is his name. He's 53 at this point, but he is waiting at the William C. Holman Correctional Facility in Alabama. That is where they carry out their executions. He is waiting to die. Now he is there convicted. He's been on death row. What is that? That 30 years, robes.

[Amy Robach]

30 plus years.

[TJ Holmes]

He was convicted of the kidnapping and murder of a man in 19. And he is again this, not just this late hour. He has always maintained his innocence. Now Robes, this crime is, I mean, it's pretty heinous to hear what did take place. But this was in 1993. Four men involved. Allegedly Boyd was one of them. I say allegedly because of the questions he has, but he has been convicted of it. He's not the one who. He helped, if you will, in this murder.

[Amy Robach]

The eyewitness testimony that put him away said that he helped bind the legs or at least hold his legs. But the victim in this case, Gregory Huley, was kidnapped by four men and then burned alive. They literally, according to court records, threw gasoline on him and set him on fire and watched him die. And apparently the motive was a $200 drug debt that was owed that this Gregory Hulley allegedly reportedly owed someone.

[TJ Holmes]

So he ends up getting hauled in, goes to trial. Now this case, the prosecution's case, was very much dependent at the time on one of Boyd's co defendants who testified against him. And he got a better plea deal also at trial came out. Look, there was, like you just mentioned, there was no physical evidence here. Even the state medical examiner said, we got nothing to connect this guy to the crime. There were no fingerprints that match. But this trial went on for three days Jury came back, he was convicted and they voted 10 to 2 for the death penalty. Now the problems, Robes here with the trial seem to be he got terrible representation for a. A death penalty case.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. So he had a court appointed attorney who was paid a capped fee of $11,000. And his attorney, before the trial even started, complained and said, I don't want this case. I can't take this on. This is basically pro bono work. And the judge said, too bad. You've got a month. Figure it out. A month to prepare a case where a man's life is on the line. A death penalty case. And so according to several documents, he did not call witnesses to corroborate where Anthony Boyd said he was. He said he was at a birthday party, said he wasn't with this group. He had. He never looked at any of the prosecutorial witnesses or talked to them ahead of time. Here was the other issue. The prosecutor in this case was his attorney's former boss. So Anthony Boyd's court appointed attorney, who only made a thousand bucks, who didn't want the case, had just left a job working for the man prosecuting him.

[TJ Holmes]

Now, you don't, you don't have to be some legal scholar, right, to hear that and go, well, that doesn't sound right.

[Amy Robach]

It doesn't.

[TJ Holmes]

That's not okay. When somebody's life is on the line now, the representation they talk about him getting sounds atrocious. And even if you're trying to get off on a misdemeanor from stealing Hubba Bubba gum, you want better representation. That this guy seemed to have. This seems to be a travesty when your own lawyer is saying out loud to the judge, I don't want to be here. $1,000 a flat fee. How many hours do you put in as an attorney?

[Amy Robach]

Apparently he didn't put in many.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah, for a month for a death penalty case. So those are some of the issues and the questions that have come up. Look, he has been denied at every turn, Robes. I know that this is not just a last minute appeal or where he's trying to get off death row. He's been at this for years and he has been shot down at every turn, robed, and there is not a single court said, okay, we'll take a look. And gave him any hope that anything's going to be different in the next.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, no, he's 24, 48 hours. Turned away and turned down time after time. Even in October. There was a district judge, I'm sure you read some of her very tough Language. But she noted because he was trying to say he wanted a stay of execution because he did not want to die by nitrogen gas. He actually offered to die by hanging, die by firing squad, other than dying by nitrogen gas. But she basically just said you shouldn't expect, not to be in pain, that this is what happens when you have a death sentence. You have physical pain and you have mental pain, and you're probably going to have both. And that's the way it's going to be.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah. The way she put it, it's. It's an experience which attends every execution and cannot be avoided. Okay. I mean, she's. Yes, I agree. She is right about that. But. But. But Boyd has been trying at every turn, the governor, that they're all. They've already said, look, we have seen nothing, nothing that exonerates this man. We see nothing that suggests he is not guilty of participating in a heinous crime. Again, a kidnapping. And a man was set on fire while he was alive. He was burned alive. That's an awful, awful crime. But to Boyd's. I say credit, but it sounded as if. As well. Robe, you mentioned he said he was somewhere else. It sounded like he had a pretty solid alibi.

[Amy Robach]

He did. He. And then he said he spent the night with his girlfriend. And he said he had witnesses who could absolutely corroborate his whereabouts and where he spent the night and the fact that he did not leave that party and he was not there on the scene.

[TJ Holmes]

See, again, there are plenty on the other side who say we've had 30 years to do this. You had 30 years to talk about this. And every court has taken a look at your case, has said no. And here we are.

[Amy Robach]

I know. We listened to this voice memo, though. This plea, this audio. I haven't heard anything quite like that before. This plea to the governor where he starts by saying his name, he says, hi, this is Anthony Boyd, the guy that you have scheduled an execution for. He says, I'm asking, extending, offering, giving you an invitation to please come sit down and talk to me before this execution is carried out, before an innocent man is executed. Come sit down with me and have a conversation with the guy that you deemed one of the worst of the worst. Know the guy that's innocent on Alabama's death row. He does not mince words.

[TJ Holmes]

No, look, it's a. It's a four minute plea, and they played it at a press conference. His spiritual advisor. And yes, that's what he's supposed to do. He's supposed to get out there in. In front of the public, you're supposed to make a public plea. It's supposed to pull at people's heartstrings. It's supposed to bring attention. And it did. And it was four minutes long. The chances of that happening are pretty zero.

[Amy Robach]

They've already been shot down.

[TJ Holmes]

But. But come sit down. Talk to me. He said in there plenty of times, or at least on more than one occasion, when you sit down with me, if you feel. If you look at me and you think I'm being deceptive, you think I'm being dishonest, go ahead, carry out the punishment. That was a. Yeah. The interesting challenge. He was like, I. You come sit down with me. You're. You'll be assured that I'm not guilty. That was interesting.

[Amy Robach]

It was effective for me. That's right. He said, then please carry out the sentence. You're right. It was a challenge. Because he's that sure that he is so innocent that when she spoke with him or if she saw him and heard him, she would believe him. That's hard to imagine, but he actually felt like that was. I mean, look, at this point, he doesn't have any options.

[TJ Holmes]

No. At this point, I do not know if he has a single one. Somebody could have a change of heart, possibly something else could come up. But it looks like this is not going to happen. And he is going to be now the 39th. Excuse me. 40th. 40th. Do I have this right? He would be the 40th. No, he's gonna be the 39th, not the 40 yet. Jumping ahead, folks, but I assure you There is the 40th on the books. But this would be. Boyd would be the 39th person executed in the United States this year. We've been talking about this a lot, Robes lately, because this is the most executions we've seen in the United States since 2015. 14 or something like that. There's been an uptick, and Alabama has, in part, been a part of leading the way because they were the ones who. All right. When states couldn't find methods that were safe and that were deemed legal to execute, they started using this nitrogen gas. And this is now going to be the fifth. Is it the sixth, or is this how many have. It might be the seventh. No, I got it right now. This will be the seventh execution they've carried out using nitrogen gas, which is a new and controversial. Very controversial method. In Rose. We've seen in a few executions. Yeah. Some things, at least from the witnesses who see these, think that Maybe these men are going through a little more pain and discomfort than they should.

[Amy Robach]

Absolutely. This has been deemed controversial by several, several folks who say that there is real pain experienced by the inmate for a prolonged period of time where there's gasping. And in particular Anthony Boyd was pointed out that he's asthmatic and that he is going to suffer perhaps more than normal because of that.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah. And here we are with him. He had again, he, he originally this is why he's going to be executed with this method against his wishes. When they decided to start giving an option for nitrogen gas to death row inmates, they had a 30 day window to pick your poison, if you will, firing squad, hanging, or this nitrogen gas. He picked that. Initially the 30 day window closed. Then he said he learned more about the method. He didn't have enough information and once he got more information he was like, yeah, give me something else.

[Amy Robach]

I mean the fact that you would refer to be hanged is incredible to me. It shows the level of fear you must have of the method they are suggesting be used or that they are going to use that you. I can understand firing squad because you feel like it would go over, it would be over quickly. But hanging, that sounds horrific. I mean I can't even how many.

[TJ Holmes]

Still have hanging on the books, I wonder.

[Amy Robach]

I didn't.

[TJ Holmes]

There were three or something that had firing squad. We were kind of surprised by that. 3 or 4. But hanging is still on the books. Now nitrogen gas, this is considered nitrogen hypoxia is this method and it's a way essentially of you suffocating by them denying your body of oxygen. So they put a mask on you and instead of you breathing in air, breathable air, breathable oxygen, it's just nitrogen coming in through that mask. What was that? It was something about it was like.

[Amy Robach]

Two minutes of gasping.

[TJ Holmes]

But yeah, there was someone described as having your insides like vacuum sealed or something. They just what that means, what that does to your cells being denied oxygen like that anyway, but that's the method and it's been deemed legal and they are using it in Alabama and they're going to use it once again, it seems tomorrow night. Roach.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, and you mentioned this jury all those years ago voted 102 for the death penalty. Alabama and Florida, the only two states in this country where you can have a non unanimous jury vote or you just not be agreed upon unanimously to vote for death and yet still get the death penalty. Like majority rul rules versus unanimous and yes, because that was surprising. And then of course Alabama and Florida, the two states where that is allowed.

[TJ Holmes]

Well, that's not the only quirky thing going on in Alabama. Stay here. Going to explain a new rule they have there regarding executions, which means that the next one that's going to be carried out, yes, they could schedule it for a certain time, but they have folks a 30 hour window in which they can carry out the execution because they want to make sure they have enough time to kill this man.

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[Amy Robach]

Welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ where we are talking about 53 year old Anthony Boyd. He is set to die by nitrogen gas in the state of Alabama at 6pm on Thursday. That's tomorrow evening. However, there actually is a larger window in which he could be killed. When he gave that audio voice message to the governor, we listened to it and it was interesting because he said, I am Anthony Boyd. I'm scheduled to die on October 23rd or October 24th. He actually had to name both days because he could die on either day. Given this, we actually had to look it up. This rule, this allowance that the state of Alabama has created for themselves, they.

[TJ Holmes]

Were the only state when they put this rule in the place in just a couple years ago, they were the only one. They might still be the only one, but they give themselves a 30 hour window. The Supreme Court there in the state allowed this because they had three botched executions in a row. Two of them they had to cancel because they couldn't find a vein and couldn't get it done in time. The lethal injection and those death warrants have specifically days on them, specific dates. So they started running up into midnight and so they said we can't do it. So they had to call off two executions and then another execution went on and on and on and on. So what they've done, robes is given themselves a window of time that if anything goes on at the scheduled time at 6pm we actually got until 6 o' clock the next morning to finish the job. So they've given themselves starting at midnight tonight, they can execute him at midnight local time, anytime for the next 30 hours. That's an incredible rule.

[Amy Robach]

It's already unthinkable to imagine what goes through anyone's mind. And yes, I know he is convicted of having committed a horrific, heinous crime. But to know when you're going to die, but somehow it seems even more anxiety inducing to know there's a 30 hour window in which you could die, that it could take that long or there could be that many complications, or just to imagine the reason behind the need to give it a 30 hour window would just mess with you even more.

[TJ Holmes]

They want to give themselves time, but they also like, hey, if somebody wants to come and step in and there's a last minute something with the courts, you're allowing some more time for that and some more breathing room is what they've given themselves. And so at midnight tonight, they are on the clock and they have to execute him in this 30 hour window. As now the law and the death, Warren says for Mr. Anthony Boyd, robes is another fascinating case. We didn't expect to necessarily. We knew an execution was coming up, but we started doing a deeper dive into this case and here we go once again.

[Amy Robach]

And just with his impassioned plea to the governor, it certainly just brought some humanity to a legal remedy to crime that we have in this country that is certainly controversial. But to hear the other side of it, to hear from the inmate directly, we don't often get to do that. Sometimes we try to wait for last words or some sort of statement. But this was highly unusual to hear. I've never heard anything quite like this where you actually heard from the inmate making this plea. But it'll be interesting to hear if he has final words tomorrow evening as well.

[TJ Holmes]

That's always interesting to see. But folks, sorry about that, Sabine is gone. But folks, we will keep an eye on this one and we will do a follow up to see what actually does happen in Alabama over the next kind of 48 hours, but in that 30 hour window. But for now, we always appreciate you hanging and spending some time with us when I want to. TJ Holmes on behalf of Emmy Robach. Talk to y' all soon.

[Kal Penn]

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[TJ Holmes]

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[Kyle McLaughlin]

Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet stand. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me to talk about navigating this high speed rollercoaster we call reality. Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what Are We Even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Hello, America's sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Hillbilly Heist from Smartless Media Campside media and big money players. It's a wild tale about a gang of high functioning nitwits who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist.

[TJ Holmes]

Kind of like Robin Hood, except for.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

The part where he steals from the.

[Kal Penn]

Rich and gives to the poor.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Poor.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I'm not that generous.

[Johnny Knoxville]

It's a damn near inspiring true story for anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing.

[TJ Holmes]

They stole $17 million and had not bought a ticket to help him escape.

[Hell in Heaven Narrator]

So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do?

[TJ Holmes]

What do we do? That was dumb. People. Do not follow my example.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Listen to crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bloomberg News Host]

The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News keeps you on top of the biggest stories of the day.

[TJ Holmes]

My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day.

[Bloomberg News Host]

Stories that move markets.

[TJ Holmes]

Chair Powell opened the door to this.

[Bloomberg News Host]

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[Hell in Heaven Narrator]

Two rich young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one of them will end up dead and the other tried for murder three times. It starts with a dream, a nature reserve and a spectacular new home. But little by little, they lose it.

[TJ Holmes]

They actually lose it.

[Amy Robach]

They sort of went nuts.

[Hell in Heaven Narrator]

Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amy Robach]

This is an I heart podcast.