Blame the Dead Dad; Defense Takes Shape on Day 1 of Grief Author Murder Trial

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Episode: Blame the Dead Dad; Defense Takes Shape on Day 1 of Grief Author Murder Trial
Date: February 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes break down the highly-publicized "Grief Author Murder Trial"—the case of Utah mom and grief-author Corey Richins, who is accused of poisoning and killing her husband, Eric. The hosts dive into Day 1 of the trial, focusing on the defense strategy, dramatic courtroom moments, and key testimony. The episode is an in-depth exploration of the evolving legal narrative, the sensational aspects drawing national attention, and the intensely personal dynamics at play.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Defense: Blaming the Victim

(02:39 – 08:00)

• T.J. Holmes introduces the defense's strategy: "Blame the dead guy." The defense argues Eric Richins had substance abuse issues and could have caused his own death.
• Amy Robach notes the defense is pointing the finger at the victim:

  "The one person who can't refute your version is the person who you're accused of killing. And that's exactly what's happening here." (03:17)

• The prosecution alleges Corey slipped Eric five times the lethal dose of fentanyl in a Moscow mule; the defense refutes by blaming Eric's alleged painkiller and THC use.

2. The Clunky First Day in Court

(04:00 – 04:54)

• T.J. Holmes and Amy describe the first day as "clunky" and "messy," with frequent objections and apologies, reflecting uncertainty between attorneys and the judge.

3. Key Elements Making the Case Sensational

(05:48 – 06:47)

• National and local attention is high due to Corey’s status as a children’s author—publishing "Are You With Me?" about coping with a father’s death shortly after Eric's death.
• Corey was active in the media promoting the book, then arrested a month later, highlighting the "salacious" nature of the story.

4. Trial Strategy: Opening Statements

(07:11 – 08:51)

• Opening statements reveal the prosecution’s focus on evidence and the defense’s attempt to create sympathy for Corey.
• The defense plays Corey’s tearful 911 call for dramatic effect.

  Amy: "The defense attorney opens with, 'those were the sounds of a wife becoming a widow's.'" (08:00)

• The defense urges jurors to "suspend judgment."

5. Presumption of Innocence and the Role of Lyme Disease

(08:51 – 10:26)

• T.J. Holmes reminds listeners:

  "She is an innocent woman. And we have to assume that that's what the jury has to do." (08:51)

• Medical context: The defense frequently mentions Eric’s Lyme disease and back pain as reasons for potential substance use, a point his sister partially confirms.

6. Evidence and “No Smoking Gun”

(10:26 – 12:31)

• The defense contends there’s no direct evidence linking Corey to the fentanyl:

  Amy: "What you will never hear after four years of investigation is how that fentanyl got inside of him, because there is zero evidence of that." (10:26)

• They emphasize that the alleged murder weapon—the Moscow mule cup—was never tested for residue.

7. Prosecution’s Motive: Financial and Romantic

(12:31 – 13:53; 17:12 – 19:02)

• Motive: Corey allegedly in millions of debt; Eric was worth more dead than alive.
• Additional sensational angle: Corey’s romantic involvement with another man.
• Prosecution reveals Corey texted “I love you” to her boyfriend right before Eric’s suspected poisoning and conducted search queries like “Luxury prisons for the rich” and "Can police find deleted messages on your phone?" (18:04)

8. Key Witness Testimony & Body Cam Footage

(19:02 – 21:18)

• First prosecution witness: Eric’s sister, Katie Richards Benson, described as emotional and combative.

  Amy: "[Katie] talked about Corey having a businesslike reaction... hair all done up and just like camera ready." (19:34)

• Body cam footage showed a contrasting image of Corey—crying, disheveled, in pajamas, leading to debate about her genuine emotional state.
• Katie collapsed in grief on arrival, adding to the emotional weight of the trial.

9. The Housekeeper’s Pending Testimony

(21:18 – 22:39)

• A crucial upcoming witness: Housekeeper Carmen Lauber, who is expected to testify she sold fentanyl to Corey. However, her history as a convicted felon and her dealer’s denials may complicate her credibility.

10. Trial Logistics & The Road Ahead

(23:04 – 23:54)

• The trial is set to last five weeks, involving nearly three dozen charges, from murder to forgery and mortgage fraud.
• Amy Robach: "Again, Corey Richards is facing... nearly three dozen charges, including aggravated murder, attempted murder, forgery, mortgage fraud, insurance fraud, lots of financial crimes there." (23:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Defense’s Strategy:

  • T.J.: "Well, we found out what her defense is going to be. Blame the dead guy." (02:39)

• On Courtroom Atmosphere:

  • Amy: "Lots of 'I'm sorry's. I didn't mean to.' Stops and starts. Even the witnesses were apologizing. It was definitely clunky." (04:29)

• On the Media Frenzy:

  • Amy: "Several dozen people actually camped outside the courtroom in lawn chairs for nearly five hours waiting to get a seat..." (05:48)

• On Sympathy Tactics:

  • Amy: "Those were the sounds of a wife becoming a widow's." (08:00)

• On Presumption of Innocence:

  • T.J.: "She is an innocent woman. And we have to assume that that's what the jury has to do." (08:51)

• On Evidence Issues:

  • Amy: "There is zero evidence of that...they could never actually prove there is no smoking gun, that there was fentanyl residue inside that Moscow Mule." (10:26)

• On Sensational Evidence:

  • Amy: “Luxury prisons for the rich. America. Can cops force you to do a lie detector test?...can police find deleted messages on your phone? All of this stuff they've recovered...” (18:04)

• On Emotional Testimony:

  • Amy: "That just stabbed at my heart to hear her emotion when talking about her brother. She fiercely loved him." (19:34)
  • Amy: "I was...it was like you were watching a movie and yet you were watching someone's actual pain. It was chilling. Very chilling." (21:18)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Opening remarks on defense strategy: 02:39
• Trial day's messy start: 04:00
• Discussion of Corey’s children's book and media presence: 05:48
• Breakdown of opening statements: 07:11–08:51
• Debate over presumption of innocence and Eric’s medical history: 08:51–10:26
• Prosecution’s case on motive: 12:31, 17:12
• Revelation of Corey’s romantic involvement and incriminating searches: 18:04
• Witness testimony & body cam analysis: 19:02–21:18
• Upcoming testimony from housekeeper: 21:18–22:39
• Closing logistics and summary of charges: 23:04

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Tone and Style

The exchange is candid, fast-paced, and at times incredulous — reflective of the staggering facts of the case. Amy and T.J. balance measured legal analysis with moments of emotional empathy for the victims and honest skepticism about the defense’s approach. Their language is conversational, with occasional dark humor and direct commentary on courtroom tactics.

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This episode offers a detailed and dramatic look at the evolving trial, centering on the defense's controversial strategy, public fascination, and the complex human stories entangled in the legal spectacle.

Transcript

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[TJ Holmes]

Hey there folks. It is Tuesday, February 24, and we were wondering what defense the Utah mom would use as she goes on trial for poisoning and killing her husband. Well, we found out what her defense is going to be. Blame the dead guy. And with that welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We were curious. We got our answer pretty quickly in this case. That is fascinating. A grief author kills her husband on trial for killing her husband. But Rhodes, they did not mince words yesterday. They are going after the victim and they're going after his family.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, and you know what, this seems to be a theme. If you can't take responsibility and you want to point the finger at somebody else, well, the one person who can't refute your version is the person who you're accused of killing. And that's exactly what's happening here. Look. According to prosecutors, 35 year old Corey Richens slipped her husband Eric five times the lethal dose of fentanyl in a Moscow mule she made for him right before he went to bed. But the defense says, hey, Eric Richards actually was addicted to painkillers. Loved his THC gummies. Who knows how the fentanyl got in his system but he's the one who was doing drugs.

[TJ Holmes]

So this is going to be Robes. They said this is a trial that's going to take a month. It feels like it could take longer. Yesterday was a lot of starting and stopping and objections and sidebars and confusion. Quite frankly in this trial. Maybe they just need to get some of this out of the way early. But it felt like a clunky. Not quite. It's day one but they haven't found their stride. The judge and the two attorney just figuring each other out. But it was a lot of jerky movement yesterday and not real flow to the first day of testimony.

[Amy Robach]

You know, that's interesting you say that. We've been watching a lot of trials lately and it does take. There's a dynamic or a rhythm that tends to evolve between or at least among the judge, the defense and the prosecution. And it was messy yesterday. That's a good way to put it. Lots of I'm sorry's. I didn't mean to stops and starts. Even the. The witnesses were apologizing. It was, it was definitely clunky. It's a very good word to use.

[TJ Holmes]

We'll figure that out later, I suppose. But yes, folks, this is going to be a trial that a lot of folks are going to keep an eye on because it's a case folks have kept their eye on. This happened in 2022. The death of Eric Richens died, at least according to the medical examiner, but fentanyl poisoning, according to prosecutors. His wife, Corey Kitchens, is the one Richards, excuse me, Corey Richards is the one who slipped this fentanyl into his drink, killing him. He. She's also on trial, Robes, for attempting to kill him, what, a month prior by poisoning a sandwich that he had eaten. All this was about financial gain. She had a house of cards, as we hear oftentimes with financial situations. But they're talking about. She is millions in debt. Needed him dead because he was worth more to her with money. The other part of this Robes, of course, that's making the big headlines is the fact that she wrote a book after he died.

[Amy Robach]

That's correct. So, yes, there is high interest in this case. Just to give you an idea. Apparently several dozen people actually camped outside the courtroom in lawn chairs for nearly five hours waiting to get a seat inside this court. Because this has made, of course, local headlines, but now national headlines, because about one year after Eric's death, Cory Richards published a book, and it was titled are you with me? It was a children's book about a father with angel wings who was watching over his young son after he died. So Richins was out there in Utah Park City is where this trial is taking place, promoting this children's book about dealing with the loss of a parent. She was on local television, she was on radio stations. And about a month later, she was arrested for killing her son's father. She has three sons with Eric Richards. And that is one of the main reasons why so much attention is on this case.

[TJ Holmes]

And the boys were all under the age of 10, at least during the. When this all happened. So you see now why you throw that element. And there's a salacious element, a holy shit element, if you will, to the story, given that now she finally gets to trial. Here we are, robes, and you and I, and a lot of people wondered. We didn't have a full idea of what the strategy would be. So the opening ceremony. Opening ceremony.

[Amy Robach]

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[TJ Holmes]

Opening arguments were made.

[Amy Robach]

Opening statements, opening statements, closing arguments. I always get that confused as well.

[TJ Holmes]

Even the lawyer yesterday stopped herself and corrected. She did.

[Amy Robach]

She did she. That was one of the apologies.

[TJ Holmes]

So that was the. So the opening statements were yesterday. We heard from the prosecution. It's what we would Expect they laid out the case. They laid out some of the facts that were already in evidence that we were aware of. And it all sounds awful, but we were very interested to hear ropes what the defense was going to say. It wasn't a long opening, but, man, she made the points pretty quickly that this guy is possibly responsible for his own death and his family is responsible for his now widow being on trial.

[Amy Robach]

That's correct. So the defense started out with a 911 call, very dramatically. It was the 911 call that Cory Richards made when she found her husband. She says, cold to the touch. And so there's a lot of high pitched sobbing. Can barely understand her. And so the defense attorney opens with those were the sounds of a wife becoming a widow's. So trying to create this air of sympathy for her among the jurors.

[TJ Holmes]

At that point, there was a collective rolling of the eyes from us, the two of us. I could feel it in the courtroom.

[Amy Robach]

No, I mean, it's just dramatic.

[TJ Holmes]

I get what she was trying to go for, but yes.

[Amy Robach]

So, yes. So then the first thing she does is she asks jurors to suspend judgment. Obviously, most people, especially who live in that area, have heard of this trial, know about this trial. So she had to kind of start with that. Like, please, please don't believe everything you've heard and seen and read so far.

[TJ Holmes]

You know, I appreciate that and I appreciate Court tv. I know people do watch, but I like looking and that we all get a view inside a courtroom in these trials. And a reminder, Robes is important. She is an innocent woman. And we have to assume that that's what the jury has to do. I know people talk online and all this stuff, but Robes, truth of the matter is we should all view folks through that lens. She is innocent until we determine otherwise.

[Amy Robach]

And in the cynical world we live in, that's a pretty tall order for a lot of folks. So, yes, you and you hear the defense attorney and the judge remind the jurors of this constantly throughout the trial. But I thought this was interesting. Did you? And we heard this several times throughout the trial. Yesterday in testimony that Eric Richards had Lyme disease. I don't know why that's important, but it seems like it's going to be important for the defense because they've continued to bring it up. We actually even saw it in the body cam footage that Corey Richens is telling detectives immediately, my husband had Lyme disease. I don't know if that's gonna play a role, but it certainly popped up

[TJ Holmes]

more than Once they're trying to go into all of his. Any physical, medical issues he might have had that would have caused him to seek out fentanyl, THC gummies. That was hydrocodone prescription bottle that was on the thing. So she's trying to make. Remember they were talking about allergic reactions.

[Amy Robach]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

Like he had this thing. So if he would have had possibly ingested this other thing, that could have caused the hot. So they're trying to establish something medically with him, which they put his family up yesterday. We haven't gotten into testimony, but his family shot down a lot of that.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. So the idea is that he was in chronic pain, he had chronic back pain. And his sister did admit that he had chronic back pain. So, yes, he. According to the defense, they're trying to set this up. They're suggesting that, yes, Eric may have been addicted to painkillers, may have been addicted to THC gummies. And then I thought this was effective. The defense attorney ended with this or came to her conclusion with this. Yes, you're going to hear that Eric Richards died with a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system. But I'm going to quote her here. What you will never hear after four years of investigation is how that fentanyl got inside of him, because there is zero evidence of that. And they pointed out that when the police were there on the scene initially investigating and setting up a crime scene, they never looked at those Moscow Mule cups. And she says that they were there in the kitchen and that the next day the housekeeper ended up cleaning them. But they were never tested, so they could never actually prove there is no smoking gun, that there was fentanyl residue inside that Moscow Mule.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah, been there, done that. In terms of not having a smoking gun. Been there, done that recently without having a smoking. They don't need one and don't need one. And circumstantial enough it got into his body some way. Did he consume five times a lethal dose of fentanyl, possibly unwittingly. They're not saying he had suicidal ideations at all. So they're actually saying. Which was not effective. To me, Robes in the opening is when the attorney said he had ritzel and gone to Mexico. Where does fentanyl usually come from in the United States, huh? I hated that because it's this. This thing, huh? Come on now. It's that. That tactic. It means we got nothing. So fine robes, if that's going to be the centerpiece. We don't know how it got into his system. And that's what it's going to come down to for the jurors. Yeah, fine. What about that other incident and all these financial things and all this other stuff?

[Amy Robach]

There's a lot of motive here that the prosecution is setting up, which is to be a very difficult mountain for the defense to climb for sure. But when we come back, we're going to talk about the first witnesses that the prosecution put on the stand and that body cam footage that we couldn't take our eyes off of.

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[TJ Holmes]

All right, folks, we continue here on Amy and tj. Today will be day two of testimony in the Corey Richards trial. What is the they always. It was the au pair affair. They always find little clever names. What are they going with on this?

[Amy Robach]

I think they're calling this Grief author murder trial. Yes, Grief Author. I wanted to add like children's author murder trial. I feel like that might even be more effective because that is what is so outrageous. Not only if you believe the prosecution and that this woman, Corey Richards plotted planned for years, by the way, to kill her husband. And when she does, she tries to profit off of it by writing a book as a grieving widow, helping her grieving children. I mean, it really is as disgusting as it gets. All to run away with her lover, which we haven't Even really gotten into. But the prosecution set up the text messages that they will be reading in great detail between Corey Richards and her lover. Which.

[TJ Holmes]

What was the other trial when the. Oh, it was the searches by. Was it Canara?

[Amy Robach]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

Oh, my God.

[Amy Robach]

So we've got Google searches on this one. Now, in the opening statements, we forgot to mention this. I want to point this out because this is important. The prosecution started to reveal some text messages between Corey Richards and her boyfriend, Robert Josh Grossman, where she talks about how she wants to marry him, she wants to raise her kids with him. In fact, I believe the last thing that she texted before they claimed she slipped that fentanyl into her husband's drink was I love you to her boyfriend. So the Google searches, how about this? Luxury prisons for the rich. America. Can cops force you to do a lie detector test? All. And of course the famous ones, you know, can police find deleted messages on your phone? All of this stuff they've recovered, that's all going to come out in great detail. So again, a lot of evidence. The prosecution might not have that Moscow Mule cup, but they have a lot of stuff. In the first witness they put on Katie Richards, Benson, that was Eric's sister. What did you make of her testimony? Her demeanor? She was emotional.

[TJ Holmes]

I think she took it too personally. I think she's hurt, obviously, and she's pissed at the woman sitting at the defense table and she's pissed at her lawyers. And she was. And some of that combativeness kind of came out, that animosity came out, and it wasn't helpful for either side, quite frankly. But I can understand where she's coming from. And also she's on the spot. She's in the. She's in front of camera. She's in front of a courtroom. She doesn't do this all the time. And she was uncomfortable and awkward and tried to give the right answers, it seemed like at times. But the authenticity in terms of the love for her brother was pure.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, yeah, that. That just stabbed it my heart to hear her emotion when talking about her brother. She fiercely loved him. Here's what I actually took away because she. She talked about Corey having a businesslike reaction to Eric's death. And then she also said when she came into the home that night when she found out that her brother had died. And so there's a bunch of police activity. Corey's there. They're trying to figure out what to do with the kids. She said that Corey had her hair all done up and was just like camera ready Interestingly enough, then a detective comes up with that body cam footage, which we watched from start to finish. And we see Corey reacting with police, and she's in her pajamas, crying, disheveled. So it didn't necessarily match. I mean, she was putting on a show, but it didn't match what Eric's

[TJ Holmes]

sister, Katie, Tess, is allegedly putting on the show. We gotta make sure you're correct how people view this differently.

[Amy Robach]

I. I guess you're right. That's fair. I wanted to say, in contrast to the way Katie described her as businesslike, put together, hair done. What we saw in the video was a very different version of her. She was perhaps, like, genuinely upset, but she seemed upset and distraught and slightly disheveled and in her pajamas.

[TJ Holmes]

Oh, yeah. And it went on for a while. We had the body cam video. So you see what happens immediately after police arrive and they're working on her husband. And it's a long body cam video from this police officer. But you do get insight and you can come up with whatever conclusion you want to about her behavior. And I'm sure the. The jurors are doing that and they have their opinion. But. Yes. I mean, when I have to just. I mean, she's. Her husband just died. How are you supposed to react? People react different ways who are innocent, who are guilty.

[Hers Narrator]

It was interesting.

[Amy Robach]

We got to see how Corey reacted on camera. And then we also got to see how Katie, his sister, reacted when she came in the door. So you see Corey crying, whimpering, trying to make sense of how her husband could have died. One of the quotes she had to the body cam to the. To the detective, My husband is active. He didn't just die in his sleep. This is insane. So she's, She's. She's kind of talking through her confusion to the police. And then you see Katie come in and she just falls to her knees, like, wailing, Just. Just can't even breathe. She starts hyperventilating. It was quite something to take in and to watch this all from the body cam footage. I was, I was. It was. It was like you were watching a movie and yet you were watching someone's actual pain. It was, it was chilling. It was very chilling. I think one of the big witnesses that a lot of folks, we don't know when this witness is going to come up. But a big centerpiece to the prosecution's case is the family housekeeper, Carmen Lauber. She's expected to testify that she sold the fentanyl to Corey Richards on multiple occasions. Now, the problem with that is that she was granted immunity for her testimony. She does have prior convictions and her drug dealer is now saying, I didn't sell her the Fentanyl, I only sold her OxyContin. So it's going to be interesting to see how effective her testimony will be.

[TJ Holmes]

Well, yeah, we're getting started back out. I can't remember actually right now who was the last person we had on the stand was being I could see the lawyer who was doing the questioning. Who's the last person?

[Amy Robach]

Was it Katie's husband?

[TJ Holmes]

Yes.

[Hers Narrator]

The brother?

[TJ Holmes]

Yes. He was on the stand and this was the guy who was helped the husband find a divorce attorney. So he is up there giving his testimony and he is being cross examined right now.

[Amy Robach]

So we will continue, of course to watch this trial. It will take back up again 8:30am local time. That's 10:30am eastern time. The trial is scheduled to run for five weeks through March 26th. And again, Corey Richards is facing, I think they put it this way, nearly three dozen charges, including aggravated murder, attempted murder, forgery, mortgage fraud, insurance fraud, lots of financial crimes there. But we will of course keep our eye on this trial for you. In the meantime, though, thank you so much for listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.

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