BREAKING: ICE Is Leaving Minnesota

Summary

Podcast Summary: "BREAKING: ICE Is Leaving Minnesota"

Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present – iHeartPodcasts
Air Date: February 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This urgent episode covers breaking news that ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) is ending its surge operation and withdrawing from Minnesota after weeks of controversy, protests, and political tension. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes unpack what led to this drastic move, reactions from local officials and the Trump administration, and lingering questions about what comes next for Minnesota and US immigration policy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Announcement and Immediate Reactions

• Breaking News: Tom Holman, "border czar" and President Trump’s point man in Minnesota, announced that ICE will end its surge and withdraw most agents from the state.
• Presidential Involvement: President Trump signed off on Holman's recommendation to end the surge.
• Public Response: Both hosts emphasize how significant and surprising this is, given recent protests and high-profile criticism, even noting Bad Bunny called for #ICEout on the Grammy stage.
  • Amy Robach: “What some have been screaming for, begging for, protesting about, and even Bad Bunny said on the Grammy stage. Ice out. And they're leaving.” (02:38)

Framing the Outcome

• Win for Both Sides? Both hosts suggest political actors on all sides will claim victory:
  • Enforcement advocates say ICE left Minneapolis “safer and better.”
  • Protesters and local officials will point to their resistance as instrumental in making ICE leave.
  • T.J. Holmes: “I feel like in a way, both sides can say they won. Both sides can point to something and say this happened because of what we did or what we said.” (04:23)
• Trump’s Motivations: The President is positioning this as a “mission accomplished” rather than a retreat under pressure.
  • Amy Robach: “The president will Refuse to let anybody say he retreated or that he caved…he certainly will make sure it's not framed that way.” (05:15)

Impact on the Community

• Casualties and Violence: Two American citizens (a mother of young children and an ICU nurse) were killed during the unrest, heightening the urgency for de-escalation.
  • T.J. Holmes: “…it is so tragically sad that two people, a mother of young children and an ICU nurse, were literally gunned down in the streets of their own city. It was horrific…” (07:09)
• Community Fatigue: Sustained tension, fear, and violence have affected residents—especially both immigrants and citizens who feel targeted or caught in the crossfire.

Tom Holman’s Approach and Leadership

• Straight Shooter: Both hosts repeatedly praise Holman for his “no-nonsense,” measured leadership, drawing parallels to Gen. Russell Honore’s handling of Hurricane Katrina.

  • Amy Robach: “No emotion. Seems like everybody we heard from there was emotion…So Homan never been worked up during all of this.” (12:56)
  • T.J. Holmes: “Leadership is everything.” (23:50)

• Key Holman Statement:

  • T.J. Holmes quoting Holman: “I don't want to see any more bloodshed. I pray every night for the safety of law enforcement personnel and the safety of those in the community, whether you're here legally or illegally. I don't want to see anybody harmed.” (21:21)
  • Amy Robach comment: “Those should be the ones coming out the mouth of the President of the United States…a respect for human life and just human dignity.” (21:48)

• Holman’s Press Conference:

  • Features his characteristic directness, credits local officials for working toward solutions, claims ICE’s presence contributed to safety, and avoids blaming anyone for past mistakes.
  • Amy Robach recalls Holman’s remarks: “I'm not gonna sit here and say anybody did anything wrong. I'm going to say there are some issues here. We fixed those issues. We've had great success with this operation, and we're leaving Minnesota safer.” (09:22)

Practical and Political Fallout

• Partial Shutdown: The looming partial government shutdown (especially DHS funding) introduces logistical hurdles for moving ICE agents out.

  • T.J. Holmes: “Are they all going to leave today before the government shuts down on Friday?...In order to pay for that, you have to have a funded Department of Homeland Security…” (18:40, 18:58)

• What Happens Next:

  • Amy Robach points out: ICE will leave a “small footprint” to transition operations back to the local field office (10:11).
  • Ongoing debate about what immigration enforcement should look like—hosts note everyone, even enforcement advocates, ultimately agree criminals in custody should be prioritized for deportation, not targeted home raids.

• Political Calculations:

  • T.J. Holmes poses a “thought bubble”: Is this ICE withdrawal part of a broader negotiation strategy? Will it incentivize Congress to compromise on immigration/border security funding?
  • Amy Robach’s retort: "Your thought bubble...was a cynical bubble that it was." (20:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Impact of the ICE Surge Ending:

  • Amy Robach: “We are Americans fighting Americans literally in the streets of American city. And Americans are dying. If that gets to stop...then so be it.” (07:57)

• On Leadership:

  • Amy Robach: “Just wanted to hop on, give you that breaking news update. But folks, keep an eye on what’s happening on the streets of Minneapolis and in Minnesota. It should start to look a lot differently as the surge, we are told, is ending.” (23:53)

• On Holman’s Handling:

  • T.J. Holmes: “Finally we have somebody. And it’s not a coincidence that things are settling, de-escalating and actually feeling like America when you have someone say something that everybody can agree with. And this is exactly what we needed and who we needed. And thank God. Yes, it came too late for Alex Brady and it came too late for Renee Goode. But at least it finally came.” (22:27)

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Important Segments with Timestamps

• [02:38] — Amy explains the urgency and gravity: ICE is leaving, referencing national outcry and protests.
• [04:23] — Both hosts discuss political actors potentially framing the withdrawal as a victory on their respective sides.
• [07:09] — T.J. contextualizes the local impact, referencing deaths and community trauma.
• [09:22] — Amy recounts Holman’s press conference and its straight-shooter tone.
• [10:11] — Discussion of the technical withdrawal—ICE reducing presence, leaving a transition team.
• [12:56] — Both hosts praise Holman’s unemotional, pragmatic leadership.
• [18:40-19:21] — T.J. and Amy dissect the practical logistics of shifting ICE agents out amidst an impending DHS shutdown.
• [21:21-21:48] — Holman’s statement on human dignity and safety; Amy calls for these words from the President.
• [23:50-23:53] — Final reflections on the importance of leadership and the hope for de-escalation.
• [24:25] — Show wraps up with a message to watch for further updates as the situation develops.

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Conclusion

This breaking news episode balances urgency with clear-eyed analysis. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes move quickly to cover:

• The who, what, and why of ICE’s Minnesota withdrawal
• The emotional and political toll of the surge
• Holman’s decisive, measured leadership
• The possible implications for federal immigration policy and the immediate logistical challenges ahead

The hosts close with relief and hope, emphasizing the cost so far and urging listeners to keep watch on the changing face of Minnesota’s streets in the days to come.

Transcript

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[Amy Robach]

Cool. Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, February 12th, and ice is leaving Minnesota. Welcome to this breaking news episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We are hopping on here because we just got word just within the past several moments from Tom Holman, who has been sent to Minnesota with the president's new man on the ground, who has just announced what some have been screaming for, begging for, protesting about, and even Bad Bunny said on the Grammy stage. Ice out. And they're leaving.

[T.J. Holmes]

Yes, Hashtag ice out. It's everywhere. And now it's actually happening. Border czar Tom Holman made this announcement and it took a lot of folks by surprise, but he said that President Trump has signed off on this, that they are leaving, that they've been successful, that they're leaving Minneapolis safer and better than before. But, yes, this is the news so many people were waiting for and probably didn't think would have happened this quickly.

[Amy Robach]

And I think you said the most important part right. The president signed off on this. He said it was my suggestion to the President. He's going along with it. And we're leaving now. Robes, this will be seen as some as what a victory. Will this be seen in any way as a retreat by the President? He certainly will make sure it's not framed that way. But bottom line, as we get into the back and forth here, robes isn't the bottom line. The basics that just this national nightmare and international embarrassment to a certain degree that is even impacting our Olympians is going to end.

[T.J. Holmes]

You know what? I think that is a very good way to put it. And it's going to end. I feel like in a way, both sides can say they won. Both sides can point to something and say this happened because of what we did or what we said. So you've got border czar Tom Homan saying, We've made 4,000 arrests. Minneapolis is safer. He made a point. We'll get into his exact comments, telling folks, if you're illegal in Minneapolis, you're not okay or in the clear. We are still going to be enforcing the law, but just not with 3,000 ICE agents boots on the ground. And then you've got protesters who can say, our voices were heard, our local and state officials stood up for us, and we eventually were able, through our collective efforts to get ice out of Minneapolis. Everybody gets to say they won and.

[Amy Robach]

The president will Refuse to let anybody say he retreated or that he caved or he in some way caved to these Democratic lawmakers, these Democratic leaders. Not sure how he's going to frame this, but I think Tom Holman today was careful. He has been good, a straight shooter. But even today in making sure that he was giving the president credit, he also has been good. Rose about saying, not saying this thing went perfectly. And I'm here because it didn't go perfectly, and I'm here to make it better, sweetheart. He's been on the ground for a week and a half, and all of a sudden everything changes.

[T.J. Holmes]

It's incredible. And look, I appreciate this. We say enough things about President Trump and his decisions and maybe even what he says about his decisions. But I will say that it is refreshing to see him trust people he put in charge. So he took someone like Homan who was actually working. He's worked for the Obama administration. This isn't a partisan border czar. This is somebody who has worked in different administrations who you might think President Trump might not trust because of that, but instead trusted the guy on the ground who he put in charge to say what he thinks is best for the law and order of that community. And it's just nice to see President Trump supporting that decision.

[Amy Robach]

And look, two American citizens have died in the past several weeks because many will tell you because of this surge, having them out of there and they're no longer being surged for many people will say, Minnesota is safer because you're leaving. The administration is saying you're safer because we came in the first place. Who cares at this point, who wants to win whatever PR battle, who cares? But if we don't have to see any more tear gas and spitting and throwing and kicking, and if we don't have to see any more of that on the streets, whoever take that.

[T.J. Holmes]

And it's amazing. Obviously, those of us who are reporting on it and anyone who's listening to this has been watching it, we've been reading it, but the folks in Minneapolis have been living it. And I cannot imagine what that must have been like, what that has been like for everybody in that community, people who care about the immigration community, people who are here, who might be here legally but look like they could be illegal immigrants. You know, the. The fear, the distrust, the chaos, the anger, the violence. And yes, it is so tragically sad that two people, a young, a mother of young children and an ICU nurse, were literally gunned down in the streets of their own city. It was horrific and difficult and as you pointed out, even made its way to the Olympics in controversy.

[Amy Robach]

And so if all of this robes, everywhere you go, people are seeing what's happening on the streets of an American city where we're fighting each other and you have government agents killing American citizens. That has happened. There's not a blame and a back and a fourth. And who should have been there, should have moved a car and he shouldn't have been so angry. That's not it. The point remains. Robes. We are Americans fighting Americans literally in the streets of American city. And Americans are dying. If that gets to stop and decrease the chances, then so be it. And look, thank you, Mr. Tom Holman. He has been such a straight shooter. We've watched some of these press conferences sometimes going, come on, dude, like, wake up. He's just not an animated guy. This is who he is. Straightforward, gruff, just.

[T.J. Holmes]

And that's exactly who we needed, it appears, because take the emotion out of it and get the job done. And when the is done to the best of your ability, you get out, you leave. Look, we're here in Mexico. We've told everybody this we saw in the streets of this small little surfing town. F Trump. F ice. It's even here in Mexico. Obviously, folks, folks who live here or who have maybe family members who have immigrated or who live in the United States, obviously you understand why there's that sentiment here in a Spanish speaking country.

[Amy Robach]

But.

[T.J. Holmes]

But still, it was still surprising to see it.

[Amy Robach]

I forgot about that. That was just yesterday. We saw that and couldn't believe it was here. But Holman gave this press conference today. Again, we had it scheduled. It was planned. And to be honest, we were in the middle of some other work and I was going to put it up and I said, okay. He's probably just giving an update. Wasn't expecting this today, but he came out with this. I'm very pleased to report that this surge operation and our work here with state and local officials to improve coordination and achieve mutual goals, as well as our efforts to address issues of concern here on the ground, have yielded the success results we came here for. There were some issues here and we addressed those issues. But I'm not gonna sit here and say anybody did anything wrong. I'm going to say there are some issues here. We fixed those issues. We've had great success with this operation, and we're leaving Minnesota safer. Okay. Is that true?

[T.J. Holmes]

Fine. Okay, say. And if that is the belief among the Border Patrol agents, if that is the belief from the Trump administration, then that's great. And look, we had what, 3,000 ICE agents there last week. They announced that they were pulling back 700. So there was 2,300 left on the ground. And even still, you had Mayor Jacob Fry come out and say that's still too many. We don't want 2,300 ICE agents here. ICE out. I'm not going to rest until ICE is gone. Well, Homan did say that, yes, ICE is leaving, but they will leave a small footprint of personnel for a period of time to close out and transition and give control back to the field office, which is what I, everyone in that state. I, I, what local or state official said anything other than that? And yes, this is a Democratic state. This has got democratic leaders, but still there was no, I never heard one voice who actually lived and resided in Minnesota who said they wanted ICE to stay.

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[Amy Robach]

Anybody. Like, keep doing what you're doing, it's going great. Nobody was saying that. Correct. I'm not sure that's what I'm saying.

[T.J. Holmes]

I did not, I cannot think of or recall one official voice from Minnesota who is a local elected official who, who said that they wanted ICE to stay.

[Amy Robach]

And the way Holman put it, I have proposed and President Trump has concurred that this surge operation conclude the back and forth. And I don't know what interpretation needs to be done and what back and forth, I don't know, robes. But if it's ending, we have to be relieved that what we've seen on the streets is not going to continue for the foreseeable future.

[T.J. Holmes]

Yes. And, and look, I think that, I understand and I, I think most Americans don't want laws to be in place that aren't enforced. The whole point of having a law, the whole point of having a society that is able to operate within the boundaries of laws require consequences when people break the law. So I think there, there was always an ability to strike a balance here. I don't think anyone is looking to, to have criminals murderers. They always like to give all the different violent labels to the criminals who are also here illegal. I think everybody and that was seemed like such an obvious compromise that they eventually reached that when you have them in your jail, are already in prison, are already in jail, are already incarcerated, take them and take them back to their home countries. That I don't, that, that if that was all it took for this to all wind down. It's exhausting to think that we couldn't have gotten there earlier or sooner.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, it's exhausting to think how many injuries how many arrests? Renee Good. Alex Predding dead over what? Because Homan wasn't there early enough? Again, I'm not saying it's putting on him, I'm just saying it sounds like he came up with a very simple solution when cooler heads prevailed. And you mentioned Great point Robes. This dude is a straight shooter. No emotion. Seems like everybody we heard from there was emotion. And in the Governor Waltz's motion, Mayor Fry obviously with his drop an F bomb, there's nothing but emotion coming from the President in some of his language. So Homan never been worked up during all of this. But folks, in the middle of all this, what does this mean now? Oh yeah, it's Thursday. You remember? Tomorrow shut down. Is that going to change anything now that ICE is leaving Minnesota? Stay here.

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[Amy Robach]

Alright, we continue here. The breaking update ICE out of Minnesota the White House the administration has just announced through Tom Holman, the border czar who has been the President's man on the ground there in Minnesota for the past week and a half did do a press conference announce that yes, in fact Minnesota the Surge is going to be ending and they're going to be winding down operations there. Robes, meanwhile, back in Washington, partial shutdown is on tap, right, for midnight tomorrow night. Very partial, very specific to dhs, but it could have widespread impacts. But Robes, this is going to change things now that the fight is over ICE funding. So now that ICE is going to be leaving Minnesota, will this change anything?

[T.J. Holmes]

I think that remains to be seen.

[Amy Robach]

I think you answered at the beginning.

[T.J. Holmes]

Because look, they have to obviously now take all of those agents and get them back to wherever their home offices were. That all costs money, transportation cost. Are they all going to leave today before the government shuts down on Friday? In terms of being able to fund and pay for is.

[Amy Robach]

I didn't think about that.

[T.J. Holmes]

All of the transportation costs that are going to have to take place. I'm thinking about planes and trains and automobiles and having to get back and to leave Minneapolis. That costs money. In order to pay for that, you have to have a funded Department of Homeland Security, which it will not be as of tomorrow at midnight. So I don't know.

[Amy Robach]

They're still trying to find, hopefully solutions. Not sure if a main one has emerged. They do their, I don't know, their delicate dance and they know how to maneuver this and that and to kick the can. But DHS is not just a matter of funding ice. We're talking about fema, we're talking about tsa. Now, those are organizations that will are supposed to continue operating. Those folks have to show up to work, certainly tsa. But Rose, do you want to go through this again with the tsa? You remember how fearful we all were. There's a shortage where. And you're shutting down airspace for how many hours because you have a staffing shortage in the tower that's getting my plane or my loved ones safely to the ground. We don't need to see it. No, they got it. They come on.

[T.J. Holmes]

We don't. And this thought bubble just popped up in my head thinking, I know this could be dangerous.

[Amy Robach]

Hold on, folks.

[T.J. Holmes]

But what I'm saying is I'm wondering how this announcement plays into the negotiating that's going on among members of Congress. They want these restrictions. They want tighter restrictions on ICE agents, on border patrol officers because of what happened in Minneapolis. Is this a move that would actually make some of those Democratic lawmakers more likely to reach a compromise? Because they're seeing now the administration basically compromising in a sense. Now they're not saying they're compromising. They're saying their job is done or Their work has been done and they've. They've. They can't they accomplish what they came in to accomplish, but still they are leaving Minneapolis, which is absolutely what Democrats want it. So I'm just wondering if this plays into that and maybe because of this move, they'll actually be able to come to an agreement and nothing.

[Amy Robach]

Your thought bubble.

[T.J. Holmes]

Yes.

[Amy Robach]

Was a cynical bubble that it was.

[T.J. Holmes]

All a part of a larger, grander scheme. I mean, it's possible.

[Amy Robach]

Fine. Fine. But it's ending, folks. And I think we should all, at least, and to some degree Robes, be relieved that these clashes will not continue. And they're violent and they are. They're nasty and we've seen them play out. If that's going to end, I'm okay with that.

[T.J. Holmes]

The escalation was just so difficult to watch. So watching it de escalate is just actual relief. I feel my shoulders relaxing. And I love what Homan said, and I just think this is maybe a good way to wrap this up. Homan said, I don't want to see any more bloodshed. I pray every night for the safety of law enforcement personnel and the safety of those in the community, whether you're here legally or illegally. I don't want to see anybody harmed.

[Amy Robach]

If those words, those should be the ones coming out the mouth of the President of the United States. That is all any of us want, is what Homan said, a respect for human life and just human dignity. It doesn't matter if you're here illegally. You're still a human being. You got to go. But we are going to treat you as a decent person as we have to escort you out. That's okay, Robes. That line, I'm gonna save it. That's gonna be our quote of the day tomorrow. That line is what we needed from somebody.

[T.J. Holmes]

I got chills thinking about that. Yes, finally we have somebody. And it's not a coincidence that things are settling de. Escalating and actually feeling like America. When you have someone say something that everybody can agree with. And this is exactly what we needed and who we needed. And thank God. Yes, it came too late for Alex Brady and it came too late for Renee Goode. But at least it finally came. There isn't. Hopefully this prevents another. Another tragedy which we were almost certainly headed towards. And thank God. I say thank God for Homan.

[Amy Robach]

And you know what? I am going to. It's not his show now, but Rhodes. I'm going to take an opportunity every chance I get. General Honore, this country continues to owe him a debt. Right. For what he did in Katrina. We remember how awful that was. We can't get a bottle of water down to an American citizen in a week and they sent this general down to New Orleans and everything changed. Everything changed. He was a straight shooter, but he treated people like human beings even if he had to give you tough news. That's homan. These dudes remind me of each other and how they've taken over a tragedy in an American city. So we are this Holman give him his due.

[T.J. Holmes]

Leadership is everything.

[Amy Robach]

That's everything.

[T.J. Holmes]

Everything.

[Amy Robach]

He changed everything. So just wanted to hop on, give you that breaking news update. But folks, keep an eye on what's happening on the streets of Minneapolis and in Minnesota. It should start to look a lot differently as the surge, we are told, is ending with that. Always appreciate you listening folks. Be honest with you. We had another something we were supposed to put on our feed but we a lot of breaking news these days and we are going to try to keep you as informed as we can. Top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you see our show page. A little button says follow click that you can always get our updates coming your way.

[T.J. Holmes]

That's right. And just so you can know, morning run is going to almost be afternoon run, but it's coming after this. We just wanted to get on record with this breaking news story and just be on the lookout for morning run on this Thursday. But with that, everyone, thank you for listening. I'm Amy Robach alongside T.J. holmes. We will talk to you very soon.

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