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Hey there folks. It is Friday, December 19th and a breaking story overnight. Police say that the man responsible for the mass Shooting at Brown University is dead. But the other new information is they say he's also responsible for killing an MIT professor. And with that, welcome to this get a little early and breaking episode here of Amy and TJ Rose, for whatever reason was we were going to bed last night, we said, hey, we, we're probably going to have to hop up and get on early. There was some sense that they were about to get this guy last.
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Yes, they were teasing the news media, so to speak, earlier in the evening saying we think we have our guy, we think we know or we've identified our person of interest. And we went to bed around 9 something last night and everything broke wide open in the hours that followed into the early hours of this morning.
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And so we wake up this morning and a lot of you are going to be waking up and getting this news that yes, the person responsible for the shooting at Brown University left two students dead, another nine injured. And we found out the person responsible for the shooting death of an MIT professor two days after that shooting was the responsibility, all of that. One man they have now identified as Claudio manuel Nevis Valente, 48 year old man who was found dead of a self inflicted gunshot wound in of all places, a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire. This the story. I guess we're getting the details and starting to piece this together now. But it was kind of extraordinary and right now we don't have a whole lot of answers as to why.
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No, we, we know a few connections that police have been able to string together, but it's even fascinating how they caught this guy in the first place. You, you woke me up. I think I turned over at 2am and you said, babe, they got him and he killed the MIT professor too. And I was like, oh my God. But I tried not to process too much of it because I wanted to go back to sleep, which I did. But yes, waking up and seeing these details, it is fascinating because yesterday or it was the day before that, we had police come out and say, hey, we have a second person we want to find because we think this second person will help us find our person of interest. And turns out they were right.
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That was the right move to make. So folks, we're going to get you caught up and give you the very latest about what we're talking about here. But the shooter, police say the shooter is no longer out there. That shooter is dead. Claudio manuel Neves Valente, 48 years old. We're going to get more information about him, but that is the person police say we have been seeing for the past week on all those surveillance videos that they have been putting out. Then robe. What? Yesterday, the day before, they started to focus on. On a person of interest that they made clear was not a suspect, but they thought interacted with the suspect at some point. I'm like, weird. How do they know that? Now the story's out like, holy hell.
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It's fascinating. Yes. Yeah. So yes, he. He actually encountered the Claudio Valente in the bathroom and he said he wasn't wearing the appropriate clothes for the weather outside and he thought it was unusual. So I actually thought, this is pretty remarkable. He followed him out.
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Rome, they say this all the time.
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Don't.
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Aren't we trained? Now we see something out of place. This was so out of place that he took it upon himself to follow the guy.
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I cannot imagine doing that, but he did. He follows him out there and then he sees more suspicious behavior because Valente goes to get into his vehicle and then just locks it and keeps walking hurriedly around the corner.
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He said, unlocks it with the fob.
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He unlocked it and then kept walking.
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That's weird. Why would you do that?
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So then he followed him. What, around the corner.
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To think now, in that moment, he had no idea he was following a killer. He wasn't a killer yet that dude was armed and he is following somebody who clearly had no problem killing.
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That is so eerie to think. And he's probably thinking himself, wow, I was a lot braver than I even realized. Or maybe I was a lot dumber than I knew. But yes, he speed walked to follow him around the corner and he actually confronted him and said, you car is back there.
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Why are you circling the block?
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That is very courageous.
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And I guess, Romes, what was he supposed to do next? I'm sure it's on his mind as well. Like, well, should I have alerted somebody? Should I have gone and said, but this is what I guess in our culture over the years and go back to Columbine. Columbine, if somebody is wearing a trench coat in the summer, you look and go, wait a minute, what's that about? Like, we've been trained almost. And to think, this guy swear this is not just. I saw a guy and thought something weird. He did something about it and followed the guy. This is incredible.
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It's remarkable that he. And then confronted him and said, why are you acting like this? You're acting strangely. I do appreciate the fact that maybe all of the news coverage we've had of. Of people trying to thwart potential mass shootings or terrorist attacks. Like, these are the. These are the habits that we've hopefully instilled in some people to say, if you see something, say something. And that's exactly what this guy did.
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You know, you say that as well, I think, about the Bondi beach shooting in Australia, and to think that there was a citizen that went and disarmed that guy. Like, we are taking a responsibility and maybe saving lives. This guy may have saved lives, sure. In that moment, that interaction, he had no idea. But his information was key in them finding the guy. Who knows what other damage he might have done? But this was just courageous. We're going to be hearing from this guy. He's going to be everywhere telling his story. This is. I find this to be just unreal.
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Yeah. And so after he confronted Valente and said, your car is back there, why are you circling the block? He responded to him by saying, I don't know you from nobody. Why are you harassing me? And then this. This man goes on to Reddit and says, I'm being dead serious. Somebody needs to look into a gray Nissan with Florida plates. So he took note of the car, he took note of the license plates, and. And that was the key to finding the suspect, period.
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This, and this is unbelievable. He went on Reddit. I think he finally realized that y' all have been looking for me. And I think they said he physically went up to two officers in Providence.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so he was key to the case. Now, how did this work out? They got this witness, if you will, and then they had video surveillance, video of a car that they said they could match up. They could match up the two descriptions. And that's when they knew, okay, we're on to the right thing with this description of this Nissan Sentra. Was it that he had. That he had rented. Now, they track this car, this, you know, this system that annoys all of us, certainly here in the Northeast, the one. They're able to take a picture of your license plate, right?
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Yes. When they give you your toll charge or a ticket for whatever, it's that.
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Kind of system of cameras that were able to capture the license plate on this particular car. So they were able to kind of track it and piece it together and figure out where it was going.
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And they knew who rented it because they were able to go search the rental records where he actually rented the vehicle and trace his. His. He got. He came to Boston, I guess from Vegas. Correct. And he. He rented the car in Boston, Traveled from Boston to Providence, Providence back to Boston. And then eventually to Salem, New Hampshire. Yeah. Brookline.
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Where they shot the professor.
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Yes.
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And then ends up in Salem, New Hampshire.
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And is it. Do we know that? Because. Because we saw what late afternoon, early evening, police were releasing the information that who the guy was and perhaps that led to him making a decision to die by suicide at that point when he knew he was found. We're not exactly sure when he died.
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We talked about this yesterday. They looked really frustrated that they even had to acknowledge that they had identified there were law enforcement sources that were leaking information and that this, look, this.
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That hinders an investigation or your ability to capture someone. Because they're following the headlines, most likely. And if they know you're onto them, they're going to. Either they're gonna do something erratic to evade capture.
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But you said hinder an investigation. And it's an investigation that's already been hindered, hampered, slowed. Two people already taken into custody, then released. So this has been a hell of a week for that community.
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It's sad because if you think about it, the Brown University shooting, mass shooting happened on December 13th. The MIT professor didn't die until the 15th. So it's just sad. Those two days cost a renowned and beloved professor his life.
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And again, we're trying to figure out the why still. Now this. The suspect was found. The authorities say, again, this was not any situation where he was engaged in a firefight with police officers. They got there and they say he was dead of a self inflicted gunshot wound. Found two guns with him. And they say also other evidence that matches the scene at Brown. So again, we're Talking about a 48 year old man by the name of Claudio Manuel Neves Valente is the name. Now, who is he and what's his connection to Brown? His connection is he went to school there a long time ago.
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Yeah, 2000 to 2001. He was only there for one year in a graduate program. Correct. But they said he knew that building. Well, that is the building he would have studied in when he went there more than 20 years ago. We also know he's a Portuguese national. And there's your connection to the MIT physics professor, who is also Portuguese. Nuno Larrero. And they apparently went to school for some time together. In Portugal.
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Yeah, some elite engineering school there. That's not a coincidence. Don't know what the relationship was, but that is not a coincidence that this took place. They always check. No criminal history with this guy. Nothing in his background. Last known address was Miami. He did. I think you mentioned Vegas. He had spent some time in Vegas as well. But here is another big part of this story. How did he get here in the first place? Why was he here? Well, he was a legal permanent resident of the United States. He first entered on a student visa back in 2000, but he got permanent status through the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program, also known as the DV1, which has now.
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Yes. And now Trump Kristi Noem announced it has completely suspended that program, saying it is done, it is over. We will no longer be allowing people to enter our country through that program.
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And this has been debated over the years, and some find it beautiful. I have to argue. I'll say out loud, I think it. But what it is, it's just a lottery. There are a lot of countries that don't get a lot of visas to come into the U.S. it's literally a lottery all over the world. In certain countries, you get lucky enough, your number gets pulled out, and you literally win the lottery to come to the United States just like that.
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I had the best conversation with an Uber driver who had just won the lottery from his country. And he was so grateful and so appreciative, and it was like the most wonderful Uber ride I've ever had because he was just the happiest person I had met that day, maybe even that month, because he was just so grateful to be in America. So that's. That's sad for a lot of folks who have actually benefited from. And our country has benefited from their arrival.
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And it's 50, 55,000. That's a small, small, small number. But it happens every year. And as small as that number is. Robes. You just said an Uber driver. I have known two or three people in my life who've won this lottery. Like you would think I'd never run into somebody. Yeah, I worked with a lady, won the lottery.
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Wow.
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So this is the program. It right now has stopped. So his connection to Brown you talked about there Master of Science program in physics is why he was there. But he went on leave just after attending for one year, but then withdrew officially from Brown in July of 2003. So he hasn't been connected to the school. And the school. They announced we have no affiliation to this guy at all.
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That is so bizarre. And the connection to the professor is just that they attended that same elite engineering school, and it's very confusing as to how he somehow. That much time has passed since he was in class with Nuno Lorreiro, Professor Lorero, and it's been decades since he's been at Brown. So what happened? What happened recently that somehow brought up some memory or some perceived grievance, something that. It made him snap.
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I don't know what a deranged killer is supposed to look like, somebody who's capable of this. But the video you saw from inside the rental car place casual, cool, calm, normal looking dude. I mean, you just, you don't see anything menacing until you know the background and who you're looking at. But I don't think that guy would cause alarm in looking at him.
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No, no, not at all. Not even from the image, actually. He just looked like your average stocky, middle aged guy. Like, the only thing that was strange is he was dressed in all black and had a black surgical mask on as well. But this is of note. The Rhode island attorney general said this very bluntly, very plainly. I don't think we have any idea why now or why Brown, why these students, why this classroom. But everyone always wants to know the why.
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We have to. They'll start to piece this together. A story of some kind will emerge. But as of this morning, it has yet to do so. But stay here, folks. They gave us the update. Yes, they got the guy, or at least he's off the streets now. Believe the shooter is dead. Say there's no further threat to the community and they are not searching for anybody else. Now that of course was the big headline and the big, big update. But we got other headlines and updates from the police about the investigation and about how the shooting victims are doing in the hospital. State. Stay here. I'll have that for you right after the break. And as I'm looking at my dear robot here, we will have that for you right after the break.
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Folks, we are back here on Amy and. Sorry.
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No, you know, I've done that before, too. I'll. I'll say I or mine or me. And wait, we and ours. Sometimes I get it.
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It's only offensive when you do it about our home. But, folks, we continue here, all recording a little earlier this morning. We'll still have our regular morning run for you here in just a bit with all the news headlines of the day. But this was the big breaking story overnight. A lot of people are going to be seeing this for the time when they wake up that. Yes, in fact, after about a week, essentially with no answers, we do get word that the shooter in the Brown University mass shooting that killed two students injured another nine, according to police, took his own life, self inflicted gunshot wound. But he was found overnight in Salem, New Hampshire, at a facility, a storage facility. So we do know this part is over. Now. A lot of questions, including they saying he's responsible for that shooting of the MIT professor as well. Robe. So a lot of questions to be answered, but relief at least that he's not on the street. The update, it's positive. Out of the hospital at least. And, you know, every single day, it seems like they get. We got a positive update. But it. This is the best one. It sounds like all those have been shot are certainly on the way to recovery.
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Yes.
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Now, all six who still are in the hospital are listed in stable condition. That is remarkable. Three were treated and eventually released. So all the survivors who were wounded will in fact survive and are improving day by day by day. So that is such good news for the parents. My heart still. Oh, our hearts still go out to the parents of those two students who were just so senseless, senselessly and randomly killed by this man. I cannot imagine the pain they are in right now.
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Christmas a week from yesterday. Right.
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And, you know, it's. Obviously, it wouldn't matter when they were killed. It would always be tragic.
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Damn.
F
But, but, but I just remember the anticipation of knowing Annie was last week and, you know, just knowing she had a plane ticket to come home. And just thinking about these students finishing their, you know, final exams and just getting those last study halls in to head home for the holidays. It's just exceptionally tragic.
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There are gifts under the tree for those kids.
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That is such a point.
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I say, I'm sitting here looking at you, looking in the distance at Annalise's room. She's in there. Sleep, trees and presents. And this is just what the holiday was. And you know, what they Saw these kids. I hope they had great Thanksgivings. Right, right. It's a short window. You go over Thanksgiving, hey, everybody, see you on a couple weeks, Christmas is coming kind of a thing. It's just. That's just horrific to think about an update from police at least about the shooting. And again, robes. There's a big debate now. Debate. There's going to be some, I guess some scrutiny on the cameras at that building. There's been a lot of talk about a lot.
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Yeah, there weren't many. They said that because it's an. Obviously it's an older campus. It's one of the oldest campuses in the country, I believe the seventh oldest, something like that. So, yeah, they just haven't updated. Just because you have old buildings doesn't mean you shouldn't put cameras on them. So, yes, they just haven't updated their technology with the times. And certainly this would be a glaring example of why it is so important. And honestly, even as a deterrent, if people know when they're walking in every angle, they are going to be. Their image is going to be captured, they're going to be seen. Anything they do will be reviewed and be watched.
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That's weird. I wonder if he was familiar. He might have been if he knew this because he. That I haven't seen an image of him anywhere near that building. Right. It's all been on the street, these ring cams, door cams and wow.
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Clearly he's a smart dude. So he knows or you'd think he would have known that as he was casing things out.
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And how did they explain that the. The program he was in there? Physics, when he was enrolled there. This building houses a lot of equipment, specialized equipment that you would need if you're a physics major. And she was explaining someone from the university that. That we don't have records that go back that far of what classes were where. But she said it is fair to say he spent a lot of time in his building.
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Yep.
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He was very familiar.
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So he knew it. And they found 44 shell casings in the building.
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That lets you know this dude was firing.
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He was firing at random. And honestly, when you see something like that, it sounds awful to say that, my goodness, it's a miracle only 11 people were shot, man.
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Well, folks, we want to hop on again. We will have the regular morning run for you here in just a bit, but we want to hop on and get this up for you first thing. But the headline, the breaking story. Yes. Is that finally it's over. According to police the search. The fear is over. The person responsible for that Brown University shooting and the shooting of an MIT professor is dead according to police of a self inflicted gunshot wound. We will be hearing plenty more about this. A reminder folks, top right corner of that Apple podcast app on our show page, little button that says follow click that. You can get our updates coming to you all the time. We expect possibly some more today. But yeah, stay with us folks. We always appreciate you spending some time with us. I'm TJ Holmes. On behalf of Amy Robach. We'll talk to y' all soon.
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Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: December 19, 2025
Episode Theme: Breaking news coverage of the conclusion to the Brown University mass shooting, the subsequent manhunt, and the discovery of the suspect's death, with live updates and analysis.
This urgent, early-morning episode of "Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present" delivers a real-time, in-depth update on the overnight developments in the Brown University mass shooting case. Hosts Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes unpack the breaking news: the manhunt for Claudio Manuel Neves Valente, the suspect in both the Brown University shooting and the killing of an MIT professor, ended when he was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound in Salem, New Hampshire.
“He actually encountered Claudio Valente in the bathroom and he said he wasn’t wearing the appropriate clothes for the weather outside… He followed him out.” – T.J. Holmes, 05:28
“He got permanent status through the Diversity Immigrant Visa Program… has completely suspended that program, saying it is done, it is over.” – Amy Robach, 12:42
“Rhode Island attorney general said very bluntly… I don’t think we have any idea why now or why Brown, why these students, why this classroom. But everyone always wants to know the why.” – T.J. Holmes, 15:44
"There are gifts under the tree for those kids... This is just what the holiday was... It’s just horrific to think about.” – T.J. Holmes, 22:22
On the Citizen’s Role:
“He took note of the car, took note of the license plates, and that was the key to finding the suspect, period.”
— Amy Robach, 08:11
Reflection on Surveillance and Campus Safety:
“Just because you have old buildings doesn’t mean you shouldn’t put cameras on them… certainly this would be a glaring example of why it is so important.”
— Amy Robach, 22:56
On Grieving Families:
“There are gifts under the tree for those kids… It’s just horrific to think about…”
— T.J. Holmes, 22:22
On the Why:
“Everyone always wants to know the why… a story of some kind will emerge. But as of this morning, it has yet to do so.”
— T.J. Holmes, 15:44
The hosts maintain their trademark conversational, candid style—balancing factual reporting with empathetic, personal reflections on the tragedy. They frequently express awe at the bravery of individuals involved in the investigation, frustration over lingering questions, and heartfelt sympathy for victims’ families, especially with the backdrop of the approaching holidays.
This breaking news episode walks listeners through the rapid and tragic conclusion to a week-long manhunt, spotlighting not only the timelines and evidence but also how modern surveillance, immigration policy, and public vigilance played into the resolution of the case. The hosts urge listeners to stay tuned for follow-up developments and emphasize the broader lessons about community safety, campus security, and empathy for those affected.