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Rose
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Rose
Hey there folks. It is Sunday, December 14th and we have a developing story this morning. A suspect we do believe is in custody after a mass shooting at an Ivy League school over the weekend. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ on this Sunday. Robes. As we speak, we're just getting word that, yes, this shooting that resulted in at least two dead, another nine injured at Columbia University on Saturday. They've been looking for a suspect. It has been a harrowing, scary night for that campus. We are just now coming on and they say they got the person in custody.
TJ Holmes
Yes, this all began around 4 o' clock yesterday afternoon. Some students and faculty members overnight had been literally sheltering in place. We got word just before 6am that that shelter in place order had been lifted. And now it makes a lot of sense because we are, from what we understand, NBC News is reporting that a suspect is in custody in connection with the shooting yesterday. They say that the person taken into custody had a unique characteristic on his firearm and that firearm was found when he was taken into custody.
Rose
That detail coming to us from NBC News. CNN also reporting that suspect in custody. Can you remind me where there was a location? They're saying where Again, Providence is a small place, but where were they saying?
TJ Holmes
They say it was at a hotel near the Providence airport. Some everyone, reporters who've been following the story noticed there was some significant police activity, about 20 FBI agents, all in this parking lot surrounding this motel. And when asked initially I thought this was very telling. The police officer said, this is a small state. Connect the dots. Yes, this is in connection with the shooting. And turns out, yes, both NBC and CNN have reported they were able to confirm with law enforcement that a man has been taken into custody and it is the suspect in this shooting.
Rose
And this is hell of a relief for this campus because, folks, you cannot imagine this type of terror, this type of horror when this happens to a campus community. This is such a tight knit place. You have all these parents knowing they got their 11,000 kids are there. So that's a community. It's a larger community in Providence. I'm just saying when these things happen on campuses, they are just terrifying. So that's one thing, Rose. But this campus has been in fear for the past 12 plus hours. But they had no overnight. They're still hiding out.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, can you imagine? So at 4pm and look what was going on, folks. My college student came back on Friday. Thank goodness. You start to get so nervous, but here are these kids taking their last finals. Annalise was taking all her finals last week to come home for the holiday season. And sure enough, these, these kids were taking their last finals, 4pm, studying quietly, getting ready to go home for the holidays. And all of a sudden alerts just go out on everyone's phones and thank goodness these systems are in place. So everyone was able to lock the doors, shelter in place. But yes, some of these kids and faculty members hiding in basements, hiding in classrooms, hiding in gymnasiums for hours on end, waiting for word about when they could be free to go about their business. And they have been stuck overnight.
Rose
And again, folks, we are coming to you and talking to you about this on Sunday morning here in the early morning hours. But as of the past couple of hours before this moment, you had that entire campus literally hiding because they did not know who or where the shooter was. If it's among them. I think the suspect initially they were saying they thought was a man in his 30s, but didn't know if connected to the campus and how, if he was a student. So just to give you an idea of that fear that has been there overnight for this, this for Brown University is just. It's terrifying. So this was the alert that went out. And Rose, we see these. They have these systems in place. Run, hide, fight. Everybody knows what that means now, but this happened yesterday at 4:22. And this was the first alert that the campus got. It said there's an active shooter near Barris and Holly Engineering. Lock doors, silence phones and stay hidden until further notice. Remember, run if you're in an affected area. Evacuate safely if you can. Hide. If evacuation is not possible, take cover, fight as a last resort, take action to protect yourself. Stay tuned for further safety information. So it started right after 4. And by 4:22 they got this alert. Look, robed. We had different campus experiences. All this stuff wasn't around. But every college campus has this system in place. And to think all those kids got that on their phones yesterday.
TJ Holmes
I know, it's so scary and, and you're afraid to even call your parents. You obviously are texting everyone. And we have all these stories from students who were texting their parents. I'm okay, but I'm hiding here and we're doing this. And I'm just imagining as a parent, the fear because this gunman was on the loose. And they released video pretty shortly afterwards. And I have to tell you, it was so scary, you cannot see his face. He is dressed in black from head to toe. And what really struck me is how casually he walked out of that building after shooting nine people in a classroom. Literally stuck in this classroom. It. It was specifically the principles of economic spinal. That was where the shooting started. But to see him just so calmly and casually walk away from all that carnage. And he wasn't running.
Rose
And they released that footage because they were, hey, does anybody know this guy? They would have been asking for the public's help. You couldn't see, I don't think, right ropes a weapon in that video. I didn't see one, but you kind of see him from the back making a turn on a sidewalk. And I was kind of struck too, that he certainly wasn't running. I mean, he didn't seem to be that urgent in stepping at all, but I couldn't tell, but it was just dark. And to think this guy had just done what they say he did and was walking on campus. So they believe they got this person in custody. Don't know how he's connected to the school, but they did tell us, unfortunately, folks, that every single victim is a student. They came out and confirmed that all the victims are students at this point. Two dead, as we said. Six are this morning. Listed in critical but stable condition. One listed as critical, one listed as stable. And then there was another who was treated and released. But this was not a gunshot victim, but still someone who was injured in all that shooting. Again, four o'. Clock, they're in there. Finals taking place in this building. This is a big building on campus. You've been on any college campus, you know, various buildings, big, small and whatever. This is a good size. It had classrooms, lecture halls, seven story building. They said. You can imagine it was. I mean, you know how it goes right now on a college campus.
TJ Holmes
I mean, have you ever been to Brown's campus? I went years and years ago just for a story. And it is gorgeous. It is idyllic. It looks like a Norman Rockwell campus where you've got just beautiful old New England buildings. It feels so safe. This is obviously a prestigious Ivy League school and it's just a place. I know people say this all the time, but you actually really think nothing bad happens here. This is such. And so to have that be so disrupted and so disruptive right around the holidays. I too, I just think all the kids, I think about all the stress Annalise was even feeling this week, getting packed up, getting ready, getting all her finals, getting all the studying done. You're ready to just go home and just enjoy your family. And to think this all is happening at a time where your head is completely somewhere else.
Rose
And you know, those two kids were being expected home for Christmas.
TJ Holmes
Heartbreaking.
Rose
The other kids, I mean, thank God they survived, but that is all the holidays are about now, is recovery and certainly about blessings, maybe, but those kids were expected home. And I think I put it like that because I'm looking over here and we got A college kid sleeping in that room just a little bit across the way from where we're sitting. And I know how much prep and I know how excited she's been, and I know all these things that went into this moment to make this house good. And Christmas at the airport, we were.
TJ Holmes
So excited to see her.
Rose
Didn't have to, right? Actually, I said we shouldn't. I said, why are we gonna go through all that traffic to go. They just put her in an Uber. We picked her up, her friend up, rode together an hour back. We had a great time driving. It was great. I'm putting ourselves in the shoes of those parents who were all waiting on those kids to come home in a matter of days. And this is what has happened. We have no idea at this point about a motive. We have no idea what connection this person might have to the school. They say they have a suspect in custody. But robes we have seen in recent incidents. Folks say someone was arrested, then that person got released. It wasn't really the person. So we. We will wait. But I don't think they're going to make an announcement about having the person, if it's not the person. But this actually made its way to the President of the United States. And that robes they did earlier say they had somebody. There was a suspect in custody. Long, many early in some of the early hours, to the point, the President of the United States put out a message saying he had been briefed, quote, I have been briefed on the shooting that took place at Brown University in Rhode Island. The FBI is on the scene. The suspect is in custody. God bless the victims and the families of the victims.
TJ Holmes
That was President Trump, and that was last night. Yeah, that's tough, too, because, you know, I mean, you can imagine parents on pins and needles waiting to hear what's happening on that campus. If the suspect's been caught. You get that word from the President of the United States and you think, thank God your shoulders can relax. You can feel. You can breathe a sigh of relief because you've been texting with your student who's literally hiding somewhere. And lo and behold, Trump had to then later come out and say, the Brown University police reversed their previous statement. The suspect is not in custody.
Rose
I mean, yeah, I mean, look, it's. It's fast moving. They're. They're working hard. They haven't figured everything out. It wasn't this. The. This was the Charlie Kirk.
TJ Holmes
It's exactly what happened with Charlie Kirk. Kash Patel.
Rose
Oh, yeah.
TJ Holmes
Put out that they had the suspect and we were actually doing podcasts in real time reacting to this. It was such a developing breaking news story that we started to report it. It's like, wait, they're reversing it. Like Kash Patel, when you hear the FBI director telling you something, or it's not like we need to double source that, or when you're hearing the President of the United States saying something, you typically, as a reporter or a journalist can take them at their word because you're actually feeling fairly safe that these are folks who have double sourced, triple sourced, quadruple sourced what they're telling the American public before they actually say it.
Rose
You said something really crazy. Just to think about the idea. And working in this business, we know sources. Right. Okay. That was a good. Okay, I got to go get it from another source. And another source. We are, to a point, if the FBI Director tells us, we say, let me go. Let me go check on this before.
TJ Holmes
That's crazy to think that's actually unprecedented.
Rose
It is. And now to Trump's credit, here, he was getting it from the police there. So they were giving him this information. He was only relaying what they were saying. But yes, they thought they had a suspect. Did not have anything.
TJ Holmes
How did that happen? How did police think? I guess in the confusion of. Of thinking someone got arrested. That made its way. That's terrible. That information made its way all the way to the president and he was completely false.
Rose
You know, you make a good point. You shouldn't allow your president to say something like that because those words are very meaningful from him. You're right. That's absolutely right. To up that chain. You're right. It never should have made it to him if they weren't 100% that this was done and they could tell the public that.
TJ Holmes
And I'm surprised Trump wouldn't be somebody who would fire a person who put him in that position where you have completely false information, because that's crying wolf. Then it's tough to then believe when the president, when the FBI director tells you something that it's true. That's tough. That completely undermines credibility.
Rose
Wow, fake news, right?
TJ Holmes
Oh, the irony isn't that great.
Rose
I didn't think about that till this moment. This is not. I didn't think about it till this moment. But hey, just to point out that they. Yes, to the point. Just how this has been a developing story. They thought they had a suspect and they didn't. And that word got around, even up to the President of the United States. Now stay here. We told you a moment ago that the just lifted that shelter in place order this morning. But we heard about the shelter in place order being lifted before we heard about a suspect in custody. We will now share with you in just a moment. Stay here. What the university put out that was the finally, finally reason to have some relief on the campus of Brown University. Stay here.
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Rose
All right, folks, we continue on this Sunday morning here on December 14th, where just a short time ago, as of this recording, we got word that they do of a suspect in custody who is responsible for mass shooting at Brown University. Kids were taking their finals on Saturday around 4 o' clock in the afternoon in a building, and he walks into a room where I think they called it a final review session, a final exam review session was going on for an economics class and opened fire. Two kids killed. I say kids, we don't know the ages here, but this is a college campus. But they're all students here. We're told all the victims are students, nine in total that were injured, but two dead. And again, this is Brown University in Rhode Island. 11,000 students. The. What is it, the seventh oldest university in the United States. But, folks, this is a prestigious university. We know a lot of Ivy League schools have very low acceptance rates. This one sits at 5.4%, and they have a tuition that's more expensive than Harvard, folks. So this is a very prestigious school here at Brown University. And look, this is awful to happen anywhere, and I don't want to make a distinction of any kind, but when you juxtapose the horror of what we heard described with what really is a picturesque, in a lot of ways, type of campus. This isn't like campus. This ain't like USC or UCLA or, we know, college campus.
TJ Holmes
Zero expectation of violence or crime. It just. It feels like a. Just a quintessentially safe, protected school.
Rose
When you look at it, it looks like that. It just, It. It just does.
TJ Holmes
And look, I'm watching outside our window the snow falling, and I'm. I'm trying not to get emotional as we just talked about our college age daughter picking her up just two days ago. And you see the snow falling and you see the holidays upon us. And I just think about those poor families who either have lost their child in this tragedy or are rushing to the hospital to be by their child's bedside hoping they pull through and you don't.
Rose
And the other thing, I mean I'm, I think about the idea, well, I don't know where these kids are from, so I mean there might be parents who can't even get back and get to their kids right now or trying to drive through a snowstorm right now.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, there is a massive snowstorm going on right now in the northeast.
Rose
And so all of that, just all of that and it could be some international students as well. You just don't know. This is awful, awful, awful. But robes that this morning, it, it kind of, it perplexed us a little bit because we were on the Brown University website and you can see, you could read through all these alerts they started giving to the kids starting at 4:22 yesterday when the shooting happened. But they put out one this morning at 5:42am Was it?
TJ Holmes
Yes.
Rose
And essentially saying the shelter in place was lifted. And we like, wow, why would they do that?
TJ Holmes
Because you could see the perimeter and they had spent the night, by the way. This is what was going on in Providence. All throughout the night while we were all sleeping, police officers were going building by building through all the different administrative buildings and protecting the students and like bringing them to a safe space where they could spend the night, but also still shelter in place. But they were getting police protective movement basically to get kids out of buildings they had been in all night long, hunkering down together. There were gymnasiums with more than 100 kids in there, all scared and trying to, you know, barricade themselves, hiding under desks. Can you imagine for hours upon hours until police can finally come in and safely, safely get you somewhere else outside of that perimeter. But so this is a huge perimeter that they are basically holding students in. And finally, yeah, at 5:42, like why would they release these students if the gunman's still on the loose? So they wrote to everyone, Providence police. This is at 5:42am here on Sunday. Providence police have advised the university that the shelter in place order has ended for the entire Brown campus. However, police activity continues in areas that are still considered an active crime scene. Be advised that access to these areas of campus continues to be limited within the police Perimeter including Minden hall and nearby apartment buildings. Community members who leave those buildings will be unable to return. It is important to follow instructions from law enforcement at all times.
Rose
542. So they knew something at least. And we do want to say now they have been giving some updates. Rose. I'm looking at that. They are. The mayor is calling this a person of interest. A person of interest is in custody. They're not being clear here and being careful, as they often are, not to say suspect. But a person of interest is in custody. However, I think which is very important to note. They also say we're not looking for anybody else. Correct. They're telling the public they do not believe there is a threat to the public. But this person is in custody. And that's all we got for now.
TJ Holmes
And the good news is too, that the folks who were the other students who were injured, we now know that they are in stable condition. Only one of them is now still in critical condition. So it seems as though there has been improvement throughout the night. That is such good news. I just cannot imagine, just waiting to hear how your child is doing, that the unthinkable has happened and you are waiting on their condition reports. But because those hospitals were on lockdown, too, I don't even know if parents could come and go with all of this chaos going on. And they weren't sure where the gunman was. So the good news is a person of interest is in custody. The eight others or the nine others who were injured, there's only one now that remains in critical condition. But sadly, two students died while preparing for a final on a Saturday before they were leaving for the holidays. Yeah.
Rose
A couple weeks from Christmas. Right. And the other thing, those are 11,000 parents made phone calls as soon as news broke. Right.
TJ Holmes
Of course.
Rose
How long before so many parents got confirmation that it wasn't their kid? Right. I'm sure those text messages started flying, but a lot of parents didn't get those text messages immediately. You're waiting to see if your kid was shot. Is the how you spend. That's two Saturdays before Christmas. It just ain't right. Is it robes. But folks, we wanted to hop on and update and we will keep an eye on this story. But man, hug them tight, Tell them you love them and try to be a little kind out there, folks, because there are a lot of people who are going through it right now, in particular in Rhode island, and they need you, your thoughts, your prayers and your love right now. So we always appreciate you spending some time here. With us. For amy Robach, I'm T.J. holmes. We will be talking to you all very soon.
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This urgent episode centers on the breaking news of a mass shooting at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island. As of recording, a "person of interest" is in custody following the tragic event, which resulted in two deaths and multiple injuries. Hosts Amy Robach, T.J. Holmes, and guest Rose provide real-time updates, describe the unfolding situation, and share their personal reflections as parents as well as journalists.
Incident Timing:
Immediate Impact:
Apprehension of Suspect:
“We are, from what we understand, NBC News is reporting that a suspect is in custody in connection with the shooting yesterday. They say that the person taken into custody had a unique characteristic on his firearm...” —TJ Holmes [03:20]
Terror and Disruption:
“You cannot imagine this type of terror...all these parents knowing they got their 11,000 kids are there...this campus has been in fear for the past 12 plus hours.” —Rose [04:36]
Emergency Alerts:
“This was the alert that went out...‘Active shooter near Barris and Holly Engineering. Lock doors, silence phones and stay hidden until further notice.’” —Rose [06:39]
Advancements in Campus Safety:
Parent-Student Dynamics:
“Those two kids were being expected home for Christmas...I'm putting ourselves in the shoes of those parents who were all waiting on those kids to come home in a matter of days.” —Rose [10:17]
Premature Announcements by Authorities:
“Lo and behold, Trump had to then later come out and say, the Brown University police reversed their previous statement. The suspect is not in custody.” —TJ Holmes [12:18]
Journalistic Standards Under Strain:
“We are, to a point, if the FBI Director tells us, we say, let me go check on this before...” —Rose [13:40]
Victim Updates:
“The mayor is calling this a person of interest. A person of interest is in custody...they do not believe there is a threat to the public.” —Rose [23:50]
Family Anxiety:
“Those are 11,000 parents made phone calls as soon as news broke...a lot of parents didn't get those text messages immediately.” —Rose [25:11]
Notion of Campus Safety Shattered:
“Zero expectation of violence or crime...feels like a quintessentially safe, protected school.” —TJ Holmes [20:59]
Community Support:
“Hug them tight, tell them you love them, and try to be a little kind out there, folks...” —Rose [25:21]
“The shooting that resulted in at least two dead, another nine injured at Columbia University on Saturday...they say they got the person in custody.” —Rose [02:47]
(Note: Speaker mixed up Brown and Columbia; context clarifies shooting is at Brown University.)
“You start to get so nervous, but here are these kids taking their last finals...all of a sudden alerts just go out on everyone's phones...” —TJ Holmes [05:11]
“You said something really crazy...if the FBI Director tells us, we say, let me go check on this before.” —Rose [13:40]
“Wow, fake news, right?” —Rose [14:58]
The conversation is empathetic, personal, and candid—mixing breaking news reporting with heartfelt reactions and thoughtful critique of the unfolding communication and crisis management. Both hosts (and guest) share their journalistic instincts and parental perspectives, facilitating an informed yet emotional connection to the incident.
This special episode provides crucial, up-to-the-minute coverage of the Brown University mass shooting, highlighting the immediate terror, confusion around official statements, and the anguish of families. While the capture of a person of interest brings relief, the episode leaves listeners with a sobering portrait of tragedy, underscored by the importance of safety, accurate information, and community support in times of crisis.