BREAKING Update: "We Will Run The Country"; Trump Stuns in Venezuela Presser

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Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Episode: BREAKING Update: "We Will Run The Country"; Trump Stuns in Venezuela Presser

Date: January 3, 2026
Hosts: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this special breaking news episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes deliver a rapid analysis of President Trump’s shocking press conference regarding the U.S. military operation in Venezuela. Instead of the anticipated focus on the capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, the central bombshell is Trump’s announcement that the United States will "run" Venezuela until further notice. The hosts react in real time, unpacking the astounding details of U.S. intentions, military operations, oil interests, and political ramifications for Venezuela and the world.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Bombshell: U.S. Will "Run" Venezuela

• Initial Expectation vs. Reality:
  The hosts anticipated updates on Maduro’s capture, but were floored by Trump’s abrupt announcement:

  “We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.”
  (Amy Robach, 01:33)

• Immediate Reaction:
  Both Amy and TJ express disbelief and confusion:

  “You and I looked at each other with our jaws dropped.” (Amy Robach, 01:33)
  “I still cannot believe. And we are still trying to get a handle on exactly what this does mean.” (TJ Holmes, 01:54)

2. Operation Details: The Capture of Maduro

• Planning and Execution:
  • Months of preparation; involved rehearsing with a replica of Maduro's house.
  • Over 150 aircraft, global coordination, and strategic distractions on TV.
  • Consideration for a potentially violent "second wave" with boots on the ground.

  “They built a replica in his house… even blowtorches.” (Amy Robach, 04:01)
  “They would have burned it down in 47 seconds.” (Amy Robach quoting Trump, 04:01)

  • Military spent four days waiting for ideal weather.
  • The operation removed Maduro and his wife without loss of U.S. life.
• Aftermath:
  • Maduro and his wife are now en route to New York to face federal indictment on charges of narco-terrorism.

3. Uncertain Governance: Who Rules Venezuela?

• Vice President Rodríguez:
  • Sworn in, but Trump stated, “she doesn’t have a choice” but to work with the U.S.

  “The way they put it… she's gonna be a partner with us. She doesn't have a choice.” (TJ Holmes, 01:54)

  • Communication with Senator Marco Rubio as liaison.
• Possible U.S. Oversight:
  • Trump vaguely referenced senators and military leaders ("Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth") being involved in governance.

  “He kind of said, yeah, some of these guys behind me” (TJ Holmes, 07:03)

  • Uncertainty over actual lines of authority.
  • Clear suggestion the U.S. will give "instructions" to the now-installed president.

4. Explicit U.S. Oil Interests

• Open Economic Motives:
  • President Trump openly linked the intervention to oil, in stark contrast to past U.S. denials in similar conflicts:

  “US oil companies will enter Venezuela, spend billions to rebuild… and make money for the country.” (Amy Robach, 08:17)

  • Acknowledgment of Venezuela's vast oil reserves—possibly larger than Saudi Arabia.
  • Trump stated profits from oil would benefit the Venezuelan people, but U.S. oil firms will be “compensated.”

  “These companies are not gonna do this for free… very, very clear that these companies are going to be compensated for the work they're doing.” (TJ Holmes, 16:31)

• Immediate Host Reactions:

  “This felt like highway robbery to listen to him.” (TJ Holmes, 17:21)
  “Now we have a president standing there and literally not even pretending that it's not about oil.” (Amy Robach, 18:07)

5. Potential for Military Escalation

• Boots on the Ground:
  • Trump said, “we are not afraid of boots on the ground,” signaling readiness for further military action if opposition arises.*

  “I took that as a warning, like, if anybody else in the country wants to mess around right now, please know we're on standby.” (TJ Holmes, 06:30)

6. Opposition and the Future of Venezuelan Leadership

• Dismissal of Opposition Leader:
  • When asked about Nobel Peace Prize winner and opposition figure María Corina Machado, Trump replied:

    “She doesn’t have the support or the respect within the country. She’s a very nice woman, but she doesn’t have the respect.” (Amy Robach quoting Trump, 20:20)

  • Hosts note this contradicts her support base and her positive remarks about the U.S. action.
• Indefinite U.S. Stay:
  • No clear timeline given for U.S. occupation; hosts surmise U.S. will control Venezuela for the indefinite future.

7. Memorable Quotes & Tone

• Brutal Candor:

  “This was some gangsta ish if I ever heard this…we just went in and robbed a place in the dead of night.” (TJ Holmes, 07:57)

  • Pete Hegseth’s blunt summary:

    “He effed around and he found out.” (Amy Robach quoting Hegseth, 21:26)

• Surreal Tone:
  • Hosts repeatedly express disbelief and the historical weight of what unfolded.

8. The Human Element & Visuals

• Maduro’s Arrest Image:
  • Described as “humbling,” with Maduro looking “disheveled” and “trying to balance a water bottle in his handcuffed hands." (Amy Robach, 15:05)
• Trump's Exhaustion:
  • “Obvious concern” for Trump’s wellbeing during the presser after a long, tense night.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Trump’s Statement of Control:

  “We are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.”
  (Amy Robach quoting Trump, 01:33)

• On Military Preparedness:

  “They were able to do it...if he had made it into the safe room...they could have burned it down in 47 seconds.”
  (Amy Robach, 04:01)

• On Oil Motives:

  “US oil companies will enter Venezuela...and then they are going to start making money for the country.”
  (Amy Robach, 08:17)

• On U.S. Complicity and Past vs. Present:

  “Now we have a president standing there and literally not even pretending that it’s not about oil.”
  (Amy Robach, 18:07)

• On U.S. Attitude and Tone:

  “This was some gangsta ish if I ever heard this… we just went in and robbed a place in the dead of night.”
  (TJ Holmes, 07:57)

• On Dismissal of Opposition Leader:

  “She doesn’t have the support or the respect within the country… she’s a very nice woman, but she doesn’t have the respect.”
  (Amy Robach quoting Trump on Machado, 20:20)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|---------| | 00:50-01:54 | Bombshell: U.S. announces it will "run" Venezuela | | 03:16-04:44 | Details on the military operation and capture of Maduro | | 05:24-06:49 | Contingency plans, boots on the ground, warning for further opposition | | 07:57-09:12 | Discussion about oil as motivation and U.S. business interests | | 15:05-15:29 | Visuals and symbolism of Maduro’s arrest | | 16:15-18:57 | Oil profits, U.S. company compensation, and critique of the operation’s justifications | | 20:20-21:07 | Response regarding Venezuelan opposition leader Machado | | 21:26 | Pete Hegseth’s blunt comment (“He effed around and he found out”) |

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Final Thoughts

Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes bring immediacy and candor to their coverage of this unprecedented event, highlighting historical ironies, open economic ambitions, and the shadow of American interventions past. The tone is incredulous, often bordering on surreal, as the hosts grapple with the scale and bluntness of the U.S. move in Venezuela. The conversation is marked by memorable moments, from off-the-cuff military details to jaw-dropping admissions from political leaders. As the hosts emphasize, the story—and American and Venezuelan futures—remain highly uncertain.

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For listeners seeking a gripping, insightful window into the next chapter of U.S.–Latin American relations, this episode delivers both a news update and a cultural reckoning in real time.

Transcript

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[Amy Robach]

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[TJ Holmes]

Hey there, folks. It is Saturday, January 3, in a big breaking news update. The United States is now in the oil business and is still taking over another country. And with that, welcome to this episode, this breaking update episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We were waiting to get the update about the big breaking news, which is that the United States went and snatched a president from his country. It didn't feel like that was actually the biggest news coming out of the update we just got from President Trump in a press conference.

[Amy Robach]

That's right. So we thought we were going to get the details about how it went down, where President Maduro and his wife are, what they're facing, yada, yada, yada. Instead, we got the news that the United States is now going to be running Venezuela.

[TJ Holmes]

That was the bombshell, folks. We were listening. Yes, the details, and we will get into some of them about the operation. And it was incredible what the US Military pulled off. But the president, and again, he was about at least 45 minutes late for this press conference starting today, and he. They started to get some details and things started coming out. And he went through a couple of other speakers first. So we're just listening along and taking notes, and all of a sudden he hit us with it.

[Amy Robach]

You and I looked at each other when he said, we are going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition. And you and I looked at each other and you said, did he. Did he just. What did he just say? Yeah, and then he repeated it again and we both looked at each other with our jaws dropped.

[TJ Holmes]

I still cannot believe. And we are still trying to get a handle on exactly what this does mean. But as you said, Robes, the United States, according to President Trump, is in now, and I don't know how legally, but he's announcing that we are going to run the place. The Vice President Rodriguez has been sworn in. We're told they've been in touch with her. And the way they put it, Robes, is that, yeah, she'll pretty much. She's gonna be a partner with us. She doesn't have a choice.

[Amy Robach]

He did add the. She doesn't have a choice. Yes. He said that Delsey Rodriguez spoke to Marco Rubio and I guess they said it was a long conversation and that she was willing to do whatever we need.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah, I bet after she saw that picture of Maduro being flown out in sweatpants. Yes, I bet. So, but this, I don't know. People are trying to make comparisons and going back to Panama, Noriega, people trying to map this out and trying to figure this out. And what the justification. The president didn't necessarily get into that, but we should mention he has said, and many have others, many others have, this is not a legitimate president and he is involved in narco terrorism. So this is a bad guy who was indicted in 2020 in the US therefore we had. That was a justification.

[Amy Robach]

We were serving a warrant, basically. Yes, we were serving a warrant and we got our prisoners and we're bringing them now to face justice. And yes, as we record this, it's fascinating to think about the. I guess now former president of Venezuela and his wife are on a US warship being shipped up right here to where we are in New York to face federal charges.

[TJ Holmes]

That's an incredible development overnight, first of all. And again, we woke up to that news, if you've been. Obviously you've getting all these alerts. But yes, we found out overnight the US went in full military. We heard a lot of details about it. They've been rehearsing this for months. Even did some like some Ocean's Thirteen type stuff. And they built a replica in his house. Yes.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, they said he had this safe room that they were aware of. So they came in with even blowtorches. But they went and practiced this, as you said. So they said they would. They were able to do it, I think. Didn't President Trump say that even if he had made it into the safe room, which he didn't, he wasn't able to close the door, that they could have burned it down in 47 seconds?

[TJ Holmes]

He was very specific in the time. So, yeah, the details of the operation and how many 150plus aircraft coordinated from all over the world to. And a lot of what we were seeing on TV was a distraction, essentially. It was incredible. And they've been waiting for days for this, waiting on the weather to break.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, four days.

[TJ Holmes]

Some of these folks from all the military over the holidays, that's how they spent it, watching weather reports.

[Danny Shapiro]

Wow.

[Amy Robach]

And probably could not tell their family why they weren't joining in on all.

[TJ Holmes]

The fun, doing their job. So all of that was fascinating, but several things jumped out, at least in the order we got the details of the operation. What's next for Maduro? That's a big deal. He's on his way here facing indictment. They updated some in some charges and I think more people and his family and his circle are going to be indicted. Didn't you wonder when they said he's coming to New York. If he's going to the MDC over in Brooklyn, can you even imagine where.

[Amy Robach]

They kept bidding those horrible conditions? Or would it be something. What else would it be? I have no idea.

[TJ Holmes]

He's a federal prisoner. He's facing criminal charges, is he not?

[Amy Robach]

I mean, that would be a story in and of itself.

[TJ Holmes]

Okay, so that's what's next for them. They're on their way here. The other thing that folks will talk about, the president did not assume you caught this, robes that. And a lot of it was kind of buried in there a little bit. The idea that he didn't eliminate the possibility of troops on the ground is going to be talked about quite a bit.

[Amy Robach]

Yes. He actually said a lot of people think we're afraid of boots on the ground. We are not afraid of boots on the ground. So he made that a very specific, specific point. And, you know, it was interesting. Speaking of that, he even said when he started this, this. This definitely caught my attention before he dropped his other bombshell, that they were expecting to have to go in with a second wave. So that first attack, when they were able to get the president and his wife out without losing any loss of. Of human life, at least US life, they said that they were fully prepared to then have to go back in with a second wave and have it be bigger and stronger and actually have boost boots on the ground. So there were a lot of contingency plans, but yes, he made it clear he won't shy away from that.

[TJ Holmes]

You know, I, I knew what I took that as was a warning, like, if anybody else in the country wants to mess around right now, please know we're on standby.

[Amy Robach]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

That definitely prepare because he may. Yeah, he made that. It sounded like a heads up to anybody else who just wants to try us.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah.

[TJ Holmes]

Right now. And then, of course, he gets to the point about running the country. Who's going to be in charge of this country? Essentially, I think he was saying it's President Marco Rubio.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah.

[TJ Holmes]

Didn't he seem to suggest that? He kind of said, yeah, some of these guys behind me. He didn't seem to be necessarily clear or maybe correct. Haven't figured it out yet.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, he said that they were figuring it out and they would release those names in, you know, goodness soon. But someone then followed up and said, are you saying Marco Rubio and Peak Hegseth? He's like, yeah, you know, like, like, like I said. So it. I don't know who else he would have standing behind him. So it seems as though perhaps one or both might share responsibilities in I don't know, are they going to be whispering in the ear of the now once vice president, now president? I don't know.

[TJ Holmes]

Being a s. They. You know what? They gave every single indication that yes, we have talked to her, she is in line, the instructions are going to be coming from us and if she doesn't follow suit, turn on the television and look at those pictures again.

[Amy Robach]

Wow.

[TJ Holmes]

I mean that's this, this was some gangsta ish if I ever heard this came off road as we just went in and robbed a place in the dead of night because yes, we're going to run the country but the other parts he got to robes had to do everything to do with oil. This, this seemed almost like a business press conference.

[Amy Robach]

So this was the second jaw dropping moment where you and I looked at each other and thought, did he just say what I think he just said? That US oil companies will enter Venezuela. They will spend billions to rebuild the infrastructure and then they are going to start making money for the country. And he said right now, Venezuela, their, their oil industry is a bust. They're not making any money. They can't produce what they could be producing. Venezuela, they believe has bigger oil reserves than even Saudi Arabia. So we're talking about. And that's the number one oil producer. So the amount of money that is underground and to say that we're taking over the country and we're going to be bringing in US oil companies to rebuild and boost your oil industry. Hmm.

[TJ Holmes]

Is what a lot of people started saying. So after this big breaking news about Maduro, we were waiting for those details. Every single question that he opened it up to after the press conference had to do with running the country and had to do with oil for the most part. Maybe a question there about Maduro, but these are the things that are getting headlines. So the big question is about this oil. Oil now. So if the oil comes out and it's worth billions upon billions, who gets that money? We'll answer that. Or at least we'll tell you the answer they gave. Stay here.

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[TJ Holmes]

All right, we continue here on Amy and tj. We happen to. Just as we are recording this, look up and see a picture. That picture of Maduro. Is he in handcuffs? I see a bottle of water in his hand.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, I think he is in handcuffs. He has a bottle of water. But it is, I think a lot of people have pointed out a humbling photo. He's in sweatpants. He looks a little disheveled. He has big sunglasses on and, like trying to balance a water bottle in his handcuffed hands. It's not the strong presidential image he has portrayed so, so yes, it was meant to embarrass.

[TJ Holmes]

I mean, he's going down in history. A lot of dictators have had that picture taken at some point. Oil, Robes, this has been, look, the US seized one oil tanker, what, a month or so ago, saying it was carrying oil that was being used about in the whole narco terrorism situation, or terrorism, I should say. But now, Robes, oil was front and center because there is a lot of it. And the US is now, according to Trump, going to bring in US oil companies to help with the infrastructure and to get that oil out. Now, the oil money, at least my understanding is that he said it's going to go back to the people of Venezuela to help build up the country. Correct?

[Amy Robach]

Yeah. He said the partnership between the oil companies and the country of Venezuela will make the people rich, independent and safe. And then he said Venezuelans living in the US Will be extremely happy.

[TJ Holmes]

Okay, okay. The question then came and he danced. I gotta go find the quote. But Robes, he mentioned that obviously these companies are not gonna do this for free. They are going to invest billions. But he placed words in certain places that made it sound very, very clear that these companies are going to be compensated for the work they're doing.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, absolutely. The US oil company, my, the way I took it was everybody wins. The people of Venezuela will be richer and independent because now they'll be able to actually profit off of their natural resources. And United States oil companies will also have a win because they will also be able to have access to reserves that they never have before. So everybody wins this.

[TJ Holmes]

The legal scholars will do what they're going to do. But this felt, it really felt weird listening when the oil part came in. Right. Look, the US has a whole long history of regime change and how those things have worked out over the years. This felt like highway robbery to listen to him. It's. I mean, he immediately had a plan in place to say, we're going to run it. We are in charge now, Venezuela and all that oil. And we are going to tell you what we're going to do with your country and we're, we're doing it for you. But you don't have a say in your own country, your own resources, in your own wealth. That just reeks in some way historically.

[Amy Robach]

Absolutely. And it's so interesting because other wars, Iraq perhaps among them, always we would be blamed of going in for purposes, economic purposes, and that was always denied. No, this isn't about oil. This is about peace. This is about human decency. Now we have A president standing there and literally not even pretending that it's not about oil.

[TJ Holmes]

Oh my goodness.

[Amy Robach]

He's just saying, hey, and we're also going in for the oil. Like he, like I'm thinking how many presidents before him would have denied and have denied that that had anything to do with the decision to do something like this. And President Trump just says, yeah, here it is. That was stunning to me. Like stunning.

[TJ Holmes]

There were a lot of jaw dropping moments. But at this point, I mean this is. Given all we have going on in this country, given all that needs to be fixed, given all the resources or the lack thereof that are in certain places, healthcare has been a big part of the debate. Seems this is a big undertaking and a big project for the United states. This is Venezuela 30 size of Texas. Far as the population, we just picked up another 30 million folks that we just said we're in trouble. Charge of. Okay.

[Amy Robach]

And, and to the time frame we had some obviously very pointed questions for follow ups for President Trump and among them was how long are we going to be down there? And he absolutely did not answer the question, talked about all the work that had to be done. So the answer is indefinitely. I mean there is no way. So this is not a months long, years long. And so how long will we actually be the de facto rulers we have, there's, I guess a puppet regime basically where we're pulling the strings. So how long does that relationship continue like that?

[TJ Holmes]

And should be noted. One other thing that jumped out at me, my goodness, why can I never. Machado, the Nobel Peace Prize winner, I thought he might say something that sounded a little more supportive, but when her name came up, he said, seem to immediately shoot that down.

[Amy Robach]

I have the quote here. Exactly. So someone asked, you know, hey, what do you think about the opposition leader, Maria Karina Machado? Trump said this. She doesn't have the support or the respect within the country. She's a very nice woman, but she doesn't have the respect.

[TJ Holmes]

I, I mean I don't, I haven't looked at the polling, but I, I was under the impression she did have support, that she was popular in many circles and that's frankly why she was in hiding.

[Danny Shapiro]

It's.

[Amy Robach]

And she had actually nothing but kind things to say. When word came of what the US did overnight, she actually was praising the action and saying thank you and now our independence can begin. So yeah, it was interesting for him to just completely flatly say that's not a no. It was a hell no.

[TJ Holmes]

Hell no. Made me remember Hag Seth but he was got up to make some comments and I guess some, you know, he gave Saturday Night Live some more material is what he did when he got up there. But he had to wanted to use that phrase which for whatever reason in this setting seemed, I don't know, he.

[Amy Robach]

Said about Maduro, he said he effed around and he found out that was his quote. He effed around. Yeah. When he said that, we also looked at each other. There were so many moments during this press conference where, and this is something that we have come to know and expect and even still to still be shocked by certain elements of the presser that was among them.

[TJ Holmes]

And the President, I hope, gets some rest very soon. He did. You could tell it was a long night. Obviously he was up and doing this work and very involved. There were times he was standing there and we were concerned that he would fall over. No, no, we're not overstating there. That was real concern that he would fall.

[Amy Robach]

I actually felt stressed because he was absolutely closing his eyes and then having to kind of wake himself back up. He was almost falling asleep standing up. The joint, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when he was speaking and giving all of it was a long winded, very detailed storytelling about what happened overnight. And you could just see the President just almost kind of being lulled into sleep and he was fighting it and he was swaying. And I thought, what if he falls? I mean, there was concern. Yeah.

[TJ Holmes]

So hope he gets some rest. It was a hell of a night, of course, in a lot of ways for a lot of folks. But just brilliance by the military, as always, to see their precision. But what happens next we absolutely do not know. And it doesn't seem a lot of the questions we have, the administration even has the answers to them just yet. But we want to hop on and give you all that update as always for my dear Amy Robach. I am TJ Holmes. Appreciate you all listening and we will talk.

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