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TJ Holmes
It's Monday, September 30th, and Sean Diddy Combs has asked the judge to only sentence him to 14 months in prison, meaning he could be out soon. The prosecutors want him in jail for much longer, much longer. And his ex girlfriend Cassie is absolutely letting her voice be heard, saying she too wants him in prison for a long time. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rhodes. We've been waiting on Friday, the sentencing hearing for Diddy. Been waiting on this thing. It's this Friday. He wants 14 months. Prosecutors we thought were asking for four, five, maybe up to six or seven.
Amy Robach
Yeah, they made, they hinted after they had basically said yes, four to six years, right around when his guilty verdicts came down. But then we got word that they were considering asking for longer and we got the official word that they want him behind bars for 135 months, which amounts to 11 years and three months.
TJ Holmes
Do that math. Now, I think robes. We knew there was going to be a lot of eyes and intrigue about what this judge is going to do on Friday. But that is, dear lady, even if he splits the difference, you're talking about five, six years in prison, which is a much different scenario. Yes, the defense has asked for 14 months. Time served is 13 plus at this point, is it not?
Amy Robach
Yes.
TJ Holmes
Yes. So it's over 13 months. He's going home by Thanksgiving if the judge goes along with that.
Amy Robach
Because credit for good behavior would be applied in by all accounts, from what we been able to ascertain, he has a perfect conduct score, so to speak. He's had no issues that we've heard of and certainly I believe we would have heard if anything had gone down in behind bars. And most certainly his lawyer said, you are going to be a model prisoner. You are going to be on your best behavior. It's your best shot come sentencing.
TJ Holmes
Is that an official thing? You just said he got good conduct metal or something?
Amy Robach
I just made that up. But yes, but the point taken basically like, yes, what you get graded for in school could apply to how you are as a prisoner, I would imagine some sort of grading system, so to speak. But this has been all on the heels of waiting for this judge to make a ruling on the hearing we had last week where he said very shortly he was going to decide whether or not to throw out the charges against Diddy or grant him a new trial. And it's so interesting and we don't know how this plays into all of this sentencing when we don't even have the judge having made a decision that he said he was going to make quickly, that he hasn't made yet.
TJ Holmes
So as we speak here on Tuesday, we are waiting for a judge to before we even get to sentencing, he said he is going to rule on whether or not he's going to throw out the convictions or give him a new trial. So what we're talking, we're standing here, Robes. And the reason this is now a little more intriguing, all the legal experts afterwards say, yeah, this isn't going to happen. Of course he's not going to throw out the but now it's taken so long that people are taking little pause and going, wait, is the judge really considering giving Diddy a new trial? Is he really considering throwing out the two convictions?
Amy Robach
It seems so. Look, people are always trying to read the tea leaves when it comes to juries or judges. And it's always been a. A general rule of thought that if a jury takes a long time to come up with a verdict, it's mostly in the defendant's favor because if they wanted to convict, they would probably have done that quickly. So a lot of folks thinking, well, the judge is certainly taking a long time. What if he is actually considering the defense's ask, wow, that's okay now.
TJ Holmes
So we're standing by for that. And as we stand by for this again, Robes, we listen to every day say listen followed every day of this trial. And it was a shocker after shocker after shocker. Every time you think you have been shocked enough, they come up with something else you didn't think. And this is another twist. I think this is another twist. Robes. I didn't necessarily consider being the one of the judge considering throwing out the convictions. The other part I didn't consider, robes, is this 11 years. And the prosecution essentially give a sentencing memo to the judge and some of their language in there are trying to. I mean they are doubling down and just reiterating some of the same points they made about him during trial. This is a bad dude.
Amy Robach
That's right. They said that he has been unrepentant. Unrepentant. I can't say that which factors in or they want it to be factored in by the judge in terms of sentencing. And they said this, the defendant will not be punished for any crimes of which he was acquitted. Of course. But here's the but punishment for his crimes of conviction must take into account the manner in which he committed them, meaning there was physical threats and physical violence.
TJ Holmes
I think that isn't that the key to how much time he spends in prison is where the judge comes down on that question. If he only sentences him for what the charges are and the conviction, transportation to engage in prostitution. The defense argues he didn't profit from it and he did have sex with anybody as far as the payment. So you're really going to send him to prison for what is essentially being a john and he didn't even have sex. They are making an argument about that. The, the prosecution isn't this. Can he consider aggravating factors, the judge?
Amy Robach
Well, he has when it has come down to his bail.
TJ Holmes
Okay then if that being the case, I don't know if the legal standard changes, but the argument is yes, it was these two counts, but look at the manner in which he executed them.
Amy Robach
And to point out each one of those convictions carries a sentence up to 10 years each. So he could technically sentenced to 20 years if the judge wanted to do so.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, I don't know where. I mean, obviously we don't know where the judge is going to come down on this reading tea leaves and reading what this judge has done. He has not at all been on the side of the defense when it comes to getting Diddy out of prison or shortening any times at all. I mean, he could have let him out while sentencing was being determined. He didn't even let him out for a couple of months.
Amy Robach
That's right. And the prosecutors went on to say this in their request for those 11 years and three months, they said the sentence imposed on the defendant should reflect the substantial psychological, emotional and physical damage he has inflicted.
TJ Holmes
It's not just the crime they are saying, it's not just the things he's been convicted of. Based on what the judge has done previously, I would say he's not going to buy that. However, I'm not a lawyer and I don't know if there is a different standard now that he has been convicted.
Amy Robach
And in terms of that substantial psychological, emotional and physical damage that the prosecutors are referencing, Cassie, his ex girlfriend and certainly the star witness of the trial, actually took time and wrote an impassioned letter to the judge, to the court to. To try and convince the judge to keep Diddy behind bars for as long as possible.
TJ Holmes
I mean, you know, she had to sit in that courtroom eight and a half months pregnant, was she not?
Amy Robach
Yes. Sitting at courtroom, she says she was nine months pregnant.
TJ Holmes
Sitting in front of that guy at nine months pregnant that you say terrorized you to this point. Hell, we saw the terror on video. We saw a part of it and you know, I don't know what was going through his head at the mind at the time. But they're reading this letter now. It's one thing to come and testify and be compelled to testify. She didn't have to write this letter. This is a more personal. This, the thing that this would piss him off more than maybe anything she said in court. Just telling her story in court is one thing. Now she is actively arguing keep him in prison for as long as possible.
Amy Robach
And so we do have parts of the letter we're going to read to you because they are compelling. Cassie wrote this to the court for four days in May while nine months pregnant with my son, I testified in front of a packed courtroom about the most traumatic and horrifying chapter in my life. I testified that from age 19, Sean Combs used violence, threats, substances and control over my career to trap me in over a decade of abuse. He groomed me into performing repeated sex acts with hired male sex workers during multi day freak offs which occurred nearly weekly. While defense attorneys at trial suggested that my time with Combs was akin to a great modern love story, nothing could be further from the truth. Nothing about this story is great, modern or loving. This was a horrific decade of my life stained by abuse, violence, forced sex and degradation.
TJ Holmes
Do you remember that part of the, do you remember that? I think it was Agnafillo that was making an argument in court about this being some type of a love story that was complicated. That's different, that's not traditional. And that given some of the stuff we heard and her being in the middle of it, that had to feel awful.
Amy Robach
That felt icky to me listening to him say that because he, he didn't just slightly amend what she was saying. He took it in a completely opposite direction in how he categorized it and it, it for me felt icky. That's just the best word I can think of.
TJ Holmes
But all the stories we heard, baby oil freak offs, a mess in a hotel room, all this video we saw.
Amy Robach
That'S not a great modern love story.
TJ Holmes
That's, that's, that's abuse.
Amy Robach
That's physical abuse.
TJ Holmes
She addressed that specifically. I bet that was important for her to get that point in there.
Amy Robach
She went on to say, as private and quiet. Oh, she says she is, she's, she's trying to be as pro, she tries to keep as private and quiet as I possibly can because I am so scared that if he walks free, his first actions will be swift retribution towards me and others who spoke up about his abuse at trial.
TJ Holmes
I mean, it, it, Look, I don't know the man and I'm sure she And a lot of people we've talked to still fear him who are in his circle. But how much of an idiot would you have to be if you get a second chance at life to go back that route? Now a lot of people say, yeah, he's crazy, he, he absolutely would seek revenge. But how could he not be laying as low as possible if he was blessed to get a second chance?
Amy Robach
But didn't the judge point out at trial that even when he knew that he was being investigated, he still physically abused his then girlfriend and forced her to do things she didn't want to do with the threat of violence even while he knew he was being investigated?
TJ Holmes
Yep.
Amy Robach
So that flies in the face of that. And that certainly is something the judge is not going to forget because he's the one who pointed it out at trial. Cassie goes on to say, this disgusts me. He is not being truthful. The idea that he could reform, that he could change, I know that who he was to me the manipulator, the aggressor, the abuser, the trafficker is who he is as a human. He has no interest in changing or becoming better. He will always be the same cruel and power hungry manipulative man that he is.
TJ Holmes
That's strong. She is of somebody who knows him and knows him really, really well, says it is impossible for him to change. Thousands of strong words. Is the judge going to take that into account? I mean, he reads all these statements, I presume, but I mean she is saying he's incapable, disgusted at the idea of anybody talking about him being a different man, a different person. That's an indictment on him as a breathing human being walking planet earth with.
Amy Robach
Him for 10 years. I think it's also interesting, you know, a lot of this. The defense argued that it was drug fuel, that he was under the influence, that he was out of his mind while in prison. Obviously he has had to be clean and sober or at least, you know, I know that there are constant, there's constant talk about drugs being in prison, but let's presume or assume he has been sober the entire time while behind bars. So could we have a different Sean Diddy Combs because he's sober and because he's not in these drug fueled states of aggression or anger or violence, who knows? But I thought this. So this was a three page letter that Cassie wrote to the judge, but I thought this next paragraph was really compelling and really powerful. She writes, while the jury did not seem to understand or believe that I engaged in freak offs because of the force and coercion the defendant used against me. I know that is the truth and his sentence should reflect the reality of the evidence and my lived experience as a victim.
TJ Holmes
Legally, I don't know if the judge can take in to account something a statement that emotional and for an experience that personal to her. I don't know if he can. It's hard to understand how you could ignore that if you're legally allowed to take it into account. But stay with us because folks, I read the entire letter. We read all three pages of what she had to say and it was painful, it was heart wrenching. But we're gonna read for you when we come back something her parents said that maybe hit harder than anything else.
Amy Robach
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TJ Holmes
Look, this is, I think her mom was the one during the trial, right? She testified, I think she was only up there for 15 minutes, half hour at most. But they only had a couple of questions for her and she gave some really difficult testimony, wrote it was the 20,000. Do I have the amount right?
Amy Robach
I believe it was $20,000.
TJ Holmes
When Diddy essentially, the story goes, told, yeah, you can have your daughter back for 20,000, which is what Sean Combs was arguing. He had invested in her as an artist family, sent the money, mortgaged their home to essentially buy their daughter's freedom from this guy. He sent the money right back. They ended up getting the money back and the deal was off when she told that story of how we were willing to do that to get our kid back. And that's when I thought about the mom and thinking about her parents and that story they told. But they added this line, they had an entire letter. But they said it this way. This letter from Cassie's parents to the.
Amy Robach
Judge to sentence lightly in this case that involves such vicious abuses of our daughter's body, safety and dignity is to dismiss her very existence. To sentence lightly would also send a dangerous message. A Sentence that is handed down in months instead of years sends a message that such repulsive behavior can happen without meaningful consequence.
TJ Holmes
The repulsive behavior, Is he being sentenced for repulsive behavior or for two counts of being a john who didn't even have sex with the prostitute that he hired?
Amy Robach
I think the prosecution wants both of those things considered.
TJ Holmes
Yeah. And that is going to be the key. But to hear them say it that way, to see that we had a victim that was on every single television screen, we're seeing her being beaten. We heard all these details about violence and disease and forced sex and fight. We heard all this. And you're telling me at the end of that you're going to give him 14 months from just a public standpoint, that does a lot of damage for moving forward and how we deal with treat, respect, listen to, trust, believe survivors.
Amy Robach
Yes. And a lot of victims, advocates and victims themselves of any kind of domestic or sexual abuse have spoken up and said this is going to prevent more people who are suffering from coming forward because they will feel unsupported and not believed and probably think to themselves it's not worth it. And so this might silence people who should speak up, who need to speak up because they won't feel supported, they won't feel like they have a path forward legally because they just aren't believed.
TJ Holmes
Could be a message to the government as well in prosecutions. A lot of arguments, not just from Diddy's side over prosecution, going after him as a mob boss when this is a guy who was into some terrible stuff, maybe behind the scenes in his personal life. And yes, some criminal activity that didn't rise to that level that could send a message to prosecutors down the road about how to handle these cases. But this has turned out, it's just Tuesday robes. And this has turned out to be a little more fascinating of a week in this case than we thought it was going to be. Cut and dry. Get to Friday and we'll see what happens. But now, 11 years versus 14 months. Cassie speaking out in letters and still waiting on a decision about if the judge is going to throw out the conviction. So we're going to stay on top of all that as always. We need to give a reminder on your Apple podcast app, top right corner, click follow where you see our show page. You can get all our updates coming to you. And their robes have been so many more than we expected on this story this week. I suppose.
Amy Robach
Certainly so. And yes, we are still waiting to hear from the judge on whether or not he will toss the convictions, give Diddy a new trial or just say, let's move on to sentencing, which of course is Friday. So we will keep our ear to the ground and let you know anything we hear. In the meantime, though, thank you for listening. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon. A GLP1 helped you lose weight, but why accept the unwanted facial changes that came with it hollowing, sagging skin wrinkles when you can do something about it? Learn more@faceafterweightloss.com that's faceafterweightloss.com hey, it's Ryan.
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Episode: Cassie’s Plea to Diddy Judge, “I am so scared” if Diddy Walks Free
Date: October 1, 2025
This episode centers on the highly anticipated sentencing of Sean “Diddy” Combs, following his high-profile conviction. Hosts Amy Robach and TJ Holmes discuss the tense legal battle ahead of his sentencing, focusing on the stark divide between the defense’s proposal of a 14-month sentence (meaning Diddy could be out soon) and prosecutors’ demand for 11 years and 3 months. Central to the conversation is Cassie Ventura’s emotional letter to the judge, in which she pleads for Diddy to remain behind bars, expressing deep fears for her safety if he walks free. The episode explores the implications for survivors, public perception, and the broader justice system.
Defense vs. Prosecutor Recommendations
Judge’s Pending Decision & Legal Intrigue
Sentencing Factors
Cassie’s Testimony and Trauma
"I testified that from age 19, Sean Combs used violence, threats, substances and control over my career to trap me in over a decade of abuse… nothing about this story is great, modern, or loving. This was a horrific decade of my life stained by abuse, violence, forced sex and degradation."
— Cassie Ventura's letter (Read by Amy Robach, 10:38–11:32)
Challenge to Defense Characterization
Fear of Retaliation
"I am so scared that if he walks free, his first actions will be swift retribution towards me and others who spoke up about his abuse at trial."
— Cassie Ventura's letter (Read by Amy Robach, 12:24)
Belief in Diddy’s Inability to Change
"He will always be the same cruel and power hungry manipulative man that he is."
— Cassie Ventura's letter (Amy Robach, 13:32)
Power of Lived Experience
“…his sentence should reflect the reality of the evidence and my lived experience as a victim."
— Cassie Ventura's letter (Amy Robach, 15:44)
Background and Sacrifice
Direct Appeal to the Judge
“To sentence lightly in this case that involves such vicious abuses of our daughter's body, safety and dignity is to dismiss her very existence… a sentence that is handed down in months instead of years sends a message that such repulsive behavior can happen without meaningful consequence.”
— Letter from Cassie’s parents (Read by Amy Robach, 20:50–21:16)
Impact on Survivors
"…this might silence people who should speak up, who need to speak up because they won't feel supported, they won't feel like they have a path forward legally because they just aren't believed."
— Amy Robach, 22:08
Potential for Precedent
"…could send a message to prosecutors down the road about how to handle these cases."
— TJ Holmes, 22:40
Difference Between Legal Conviction and Moral Outrage
On Judge’s Decision Delay:
“Now it's taken so long that people are taking little pause and going, wait, is the judge really considering giving Diddy a new trial?”
— TJ Holmes, 05:16
On Cassie’s Motivation:
"She didn't have to write this letter. This is more personal… Now she is actively arguing keep him in prison for as long as possible."
— TJ Holmes, 10:01
On Defense Narrative:
“That felt icky to me listening to him say that… He took it in a completely opposite direction in how he categorized it and it, it for me felt icky.”
— Amy Robach, 11:52
On Survivor Fear:
"I'm so scared that if he walks free, his first actions will be swift retribution towards me and others…"
— Cassie Ventura (via Amy Robach), 12:24
On Pattern of Abuse Despite Investigation:
"Even when he knew that he was being investigated, he still physically abused his then girlfriend…"
— Amy Robach, 13:11
On Broader Effect for Survivors:
"This is going to prevent more people who are suffering from coming forward because they will feel unsupported and not believed and probably think to themselves it's not worth it.”
— Amy Robach, 22:08
The hosts maintain a measured, conversational approach, blending legal explanation with empathetic attention to Cassie’s and other survivors’ experiences. Their language is accessible but charged with a sense of the story’s significance for individuals and society.
This episode delivers a comprehensive analysis of the final days before Diddy’s sentencing, marked by Cassie’s emotional plea for a lengthy prison term and her parents’ heart-rending account. Robach and Holmes dissect the legal and ethical stakes, highlighting how the outcome could shape future prosecution of high-profile abusers and affect survivors’ willingness to seek justice. The raw excerpts from Cassie’s letter and her parents’ testimony underscore the stakes—not just for those in the courtroom, but for all watching survivors.