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Amy Robach
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Maggie Freeling
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
TJ Holmes
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Maggie Freeling
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
It's Ana Ortiz and I'm Markin Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Be My Betty.
Amy Robach
Yay.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
We're rewatching from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama and the behind the scenes moments that.
Amy Robach
You'Ve never heard before.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
But you were still bartending. I didn't know that. The bar pack is like, is that you and I turn around and it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I gotta go. I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dr. Leslie
Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders? In this episode, I offer tips from them. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with real talk.
Amy Robach
When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like, snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend.
Dr. Leslie
Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
TJ Holmes
Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, October 9th and you have never seen Betty White better than the role she has in the next movie on our horror hit list. Yes, Betty White plays a woman who has a pet crocodile that's eaten everything in sight. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ as we continue on our Halloween horror hit list. We got number 23 on the list. This has been a longtime favorite of mine and my favorite roll robes I have ever seen Betty White in.
Amy Robach
Yes, we're talking Lake Placid from 1999. Listen to this runtime. An hour and 22 minutes. It's rated R and it's a horror comedy. The comedic writing in this and the acting is an amazing through line of what is a crocodile. Crocodile horror movie. And you've loved it for so long. I mean, you own this on DVD Blu Ray?
TJ Holmes
Yeah, it's not even a Blu Ray.
Amy Robach
Oh, it's just dvd.
TJ Holmes
Yeah. So I'm just only say that to say how long how old this thing is. We watched it here the other night. I had to pull out the DVD player.
Amy Robach
I can't believe you still have a DVD player.
TJ Holmes
I keep one handy for emergencies. Just like last night. But this. Is it possible? I know we're not revealing a couple others. This is certainly the funniest one so far that we put on the list. It might be the funniest one of all 30.
Amy Robach
Yes. I think it's actually almost comedy forward horror in the back seat.
TJ Holmes
That's a good one.
Amy Robach
You know, and so it's just, it's an entertaining movie. So if you don't want to be scared to all hell basically and you just want to have fun and have a few thrills, I would say this is the movie for you.
TJ Holmes
It's an adventure, it's fun. It's almost a camping movie to a certain degree where these. You got this band of misfits coming together, trying to figure things out. Set in Maine, it is a fantastic ride from start to finish.
Amy Robach
Okay, here is the actual official synopsis. When a mysterious creature violently kills a man in a main lake, Jack Wells, the local game warden, looks into the bizarre case along with Sheriff Hank. How do I say his last name? Cuff Key Keogh. Sheriff Hank Keough and visiting paleontologist Kelly Scott. Looking for clues in a tooth that the beast left behind. Kelly and the others eventually locate the monster, a massive and vicious reptile eager to devour anything in its path. Can the crocodile like creature be stopped?
TJ Holmes
It's so you read it, you know, you read it in a more dreadful way than you actually feel. Throughout the movie, the movie sets a tone of fun and adventure and some playfulness and campy. That's a good word for this one in a lot of ways. But the performers in here have accolades of the highest. This is another great cast.
Amy Robach
So just to give you a little insight into the script itself and then yes, we'll tell you who the amazing cast was. But this was written by David E. Kelly, if that sounds familiar. He was the, I think pretty famous writer of Ally McBeal. So that kind of quick back and forth comedic timing you see all throughout this movie.
TJ Holmes
And does he have a horror background at all?
Amy Robach
Not that I know of. So he is known for his comedic writing and he is just. You can hear it. And once you. If you've ever watched Ally McBeal, I used to love that show back in the 90s. This is it. It all clicked when I read that. I had no idea before we went in to research this movie. So, yes, the cast. Bill Pullman, amazing. Kind of more of a rom com guy. So you see him in a lot of rom coms?
TJ Holmes
I don't watch a lot of rom com.
Amy Robach
Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's a. He's. Oh, yeah, Bill Pullman. He's got that, like, sheepish, sheepishly sweet boy next door, good looks, kind of.
TJ Holmes
A resident from Independence Day.
Amy Robach
See, I'm thinking of him as while you were sleeping with Sandra Bullock. So, yes, Bill Pullman is amazing.
TJ Holmes
All right. Takes away.
Amy Robach
Okay, I'm gonna have you watch that. You're gonna rethink everything. Bridget Fonda, who of course I love from Single White Female. That's, like my favorite movie she's done. But this is. She's great in this.
TJ Holmes
She plays the New Yorker, the New.
Amy Robach
York paleontologist coming in, the one that everyone hates. Yes. Betty White, of course. Yes. Oliver Platt, who's amazing. Just funny and goofy and smart all in one.
TJ Holmes
Maybe the funniest character besides Betty White.
Amy Robach
Yeah. Brendan Gleason.
TJ Holmes
Now, that's the dude. If you don't know his name, you have seen him everywhere. This guy has won BAFTAs, Emmys, Golden Globes. He's assisted in some of the. He's always the. The character on the side. The supporting cast member in some of the biggest movies you will see. Love this guy.
Amy Robach
And then Mariska Hargitay.
TJ Holmes
Yes. Boom.
Amy Robach
It's not SVU now. She's actually the sexy little understudy in a. In a way, I guess is the best way to Put it.
TJ Holmes
This hat. 99. Was this pre SVU?
Amy Robach
Yes. Oh, yes.
TJ Holmes
And she looks so.
Amy Robach
She's so cute.
TJ Holmes
So cute and so. But she delivered one of the lines that I have used so many times in my life. Delivers it in a perfect way. The heart wants what the heart wants when you see it. And she delivers this line. It's her moment in this movie.
Amy Robach
I should actually say this is one of. Lake Placid is one of your absolute favorite movies. I must admit, before we started dating, I had never seen it. Somehow I just passed over this in 99. I guess I was busy doing other things. And you pulled it out your DVD and like, here we go. And now I've probably seen it 10 times in the last three years. Because you love this movie. Also, it was directed by Steve Miner.
TJ Holmes
You look this guy up.
Amy Robach
Yeah.
TJ Holmes
I had no Idea. This dude was essentially an understudy back in the day. Like the John Carpenter, those guys.
Amy Robach
Yep.
TJ Holmes
He directed the sequel to Friday the 13th and Halloween.
Amy Robach
Yes. What? It's. Yep. He knows what he's doing. So they had. It was great. They really had a good mix of stellar acting, great writing, more of a comedic screenplay, so to speak. And then you've got a guy who.
TJ Holmes
Knows horror, but a movie you haven't seen yet. I've been talking to you about. I had no idea he. Until this morning that he was in charge of it. Soul Man. Oh, this movie I've been telling you about. A lot of you all will be offended by it. It's a movie out there. That's hilarious. This white guy is trying to get into Harvard. He can't. Can't pay for it, so he's trying to go for a minority scholarship funding.
Amy Robach
I feel like I shouldn't watch that.
TJ Holmes
He's in Black face the entire movie.
Amy Robach
Okay, well, then I'm going to go ahead and re.
TJ Holmes
I should not watch that movie at Harvard as ridiculous.
Amy Robach
You're recommending this movie?
TJ Holmes
I recommend it to everybody. It is absurd, and it was one of my favorite movies as a kid.
Amy Robach
Okay. Okay.
Maggie Freeling
All right.
Amy Robach
Okay. So now we've just told you how much we love this movie, how great this movie is. Why, we even kind of explained already why it made our list. So here's the rotten tomatoes score, 47%. Even worse audience score, 37%.
TJ Holmes
The movie was before its time.
Amy Robach
Okay, it's funny you should mention that, because I am now going to go through some of the critics, and I actually was surprised because, you know, when you look at some of these sites, people with streaming services now are all re reviewing movies, and so recent critiques are much kinder and recognize perhaps that sometimes, like a fine wine, things need to age with perspective. And then you have new appreciation. So here's the overall critic consensus. Betty White's delightful supporting turn made be worth the price of admission alone. But Lake Placid is swamped by a smarmy script and inability to deliver on the creature feature mayhem.
TJ Holmes
It's not supposed to. You're right. This is more. It's more driven by comedy. You might be right. And it is. It is a hilarious movie that throws in a few pretty gruesome deaths by a big old crocodile. And Betty White is at the center of it all. That's cool to hear other people recognize.
Amy Robach
Well, that was the critics consensus. Okay, so, okay, here's the most recent. This was actually just a Few months ago, there was a critic review 2025, and I think this one sums up what we've been saying. Originally dismissed when it was released, this killer croc film has grown into a strange B movie gem from the legendary year of 1999. Clocking in at under 90 minutes, Lake Placid is a quick, often hilarious watch that leaves you wondering if it's a bad monster movie or a clever send up of bad monster movies written by. Then he goes David E. Kelly F. The film feels like an offbeat cousin to his work on Ally McBeal with sharp jokes about men, women and human nature buried inside the chaos. The cast is wildly overqualified. Adding to the film's odd charm. Mariska Hargitay, Brendan Gleason, Bridget Fonda, Oliver Platt, and yes, Betty White, long before her late career renaissance. So this is before she kind of came back into her own. Lake Placid is silly fun, ideal for teens and adults who enjoy creature features that don't take themselves too seriously.
TJ Holmes
What was the line in there you said about the cast was overqualified?
Amy Robach
Yes.
TJ Holmes
You know what? That seems like an insult, but that makes. Acting is everything. They took this movie and made it special. Their performance. Betty White, there's nobody could do some of the stuff she did in this movie.
Amy Robach
It's quirky and fun and snarky, but in this sweet old lady way. And that's just what she always was able to deliver like nobody else.
TJ Holmes
But this is not some Golden Girl stuff. All the stuff that comes out of her mouth in this one.
Amy Robach
Hilarious. Oh, yes. The other thing that this particular critic noted, which I learned as well, he talked about the alligator, that it was really good if you consider this was before CGI technology. And the same guy who handled this crocodile, alligator creature, whatever you want to call it, is the same dude who was the mastermind behind Aliens and Jurassic Park. So they actually had really qualified folks working on every aspect of this film, which I did not know.
TJ Holmes
I think about it. 99. You won't watch a movie, a space movie, alien, whatever. The graphics and all that stuff is done so much better. This is not one where you. We've watched some going back and movies we love, they got. Jeez, I like this. Looks awesome.
Amy Robach
Terrible.
TJ Holmes
Yeah. This is not one where you ever feel like the crocodile is scary how it's supposed to be. It's always believable when it needs to be believable and frankly, it's not. It's a.
Amy Robach
How much?
TJ Holmes
I mean, 70, 90 foot crocodile. It's not sneaking behind trees.
Amy Robach
There was a scene where the. The creature throws Bridget Fonda's character in the air. I laughed out loud. I don't know if I was supposed to laugh, but. So I'm saying it's. Sometimes it's funny, but in a good way funny because you're laughing with it almost because you're hoping and thinking that the director intended it to be funny as well as a little thrilling at the same time. So I've got some other. So I loved that one. That was a recent one here. Okay. There were a couple ones that were meh, but I thought they were still interesting. This may be no more than a squib of a B movie and it remains about as frightening as a fish tank. But if you have any poetry in your soul, you will surely thrill to a film that ends with a crocodile sticking its head in a helicopter.
TJ Holmes
Gave a little bit away there, but okay, I sound a little. A little harsh.
Amy Robach
This, this other one said Lake Placid is a goofy time waster with some serious bite. That's entirely more fun than it should be. So these are some of the negative ones. They're still acknowledging it's entertaining.
TJ Holmes
They're almost mad to acknowledge, you know what, I had a good time.
Amy Robach
Yes, yes. And so here's one. In short, this is a great example of a late 90s foul mouthed monster movie with all kinds of laughs, one or two scares and a firm grasp on the kind of movie it is. Check it out for sure.
TJ Holmes
I didn't think it was fou. You know, most of the foulness came.
Amy Robach
From Betty, which made it hilarious. So yes, that I feel like those were actually despite the bad Rotten Tomatoes score and Roger Ebert, I believe, gave it one star. When I looked at the reviews themselves, they were actually, I think, pretty fair and honest and acknowledging the entertaining value of the film.
TJ Holmes
That is what I think so much of what we look for in film. We're trying to be entertained. We're not. I mean, I understand some people looking for deeper meanings and looking for, oh, that's sloppy writing. Sometimes it's just okay to have sloppy writing, not looking for meaning. And that's just a big oversized crocodile ridiculously in Maine for some reason with.
Amy Robach
Bridget Fonda, which makes it even funnier. Yes, yes. Okay, when we come back, we're gonna go over all our who's it for, who's it not food, drink pairing and where you can watch it along with a tease for number 21 on the list.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half truth is a whole lie.
Maggie Freeling
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
Maggie Freeling
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
Amy Robach
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
Maggie Freeling
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
TJ Holmes
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burned or any of that other stuff.
Amy Robach
That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.
Maggie Freeling
From Lava for Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
TJ Holmes
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Maggie Freeling
Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast.
Amy Robach
Welcome back everyone to our. You didn't even give our name out at the beginning of this podcast. I did.
TJ Holmes
I said it's our horror hit list. I said exactly what the title is.
Amy Robach
Deep Cuts are List. We're at number 23 and we are serving up some Lake Placid. Who doesn't love a giant crocodile like creature eating people in the state of Maine? It just makes perfect sense with a perfect cast. And just despite some of the lower percentages that we think it was unfairly given, most of the critics made note of just how deliciously fun this movie is. It is awesome. So look, who is this for anyone who wants to have a good time. I really think this is a classic horror comedy. Get everybody who loves to laugh and likes a few big jump scares and there are some jump scares in there that make it extra fun. I just think this is a entertaining movie and I don't even think if you're not a horror movie fan or I still think you can stomach a few of the gory scenes because it's, it's really not scary.
TJ Holmes
So we call it gory. But you watch action movies that are not that have more killing in it than this One does. It is. This is a. This is a comedy that has a few killings in it.
Amy Robach
Yes.
TJ Holmes
This is a comedy that has a monster snapping the head off a couple of people. It really. I'm trying to think of all the death. All of. All of the deaths in there.
Amy Robach
Not that bad.
TJ Holmes
Not a lot. No. It doesn't go on some rampage or anything like that.
Amy Robach
And as long as you don't mind some cursing in front of your older kids, this one's just a fun one.
TJ Holmes
And it's not. Again, it's not overly vulgar. And how, again, Betty White provided so.
Amy Robach
Much of that and stuff. Somehow it softens the bad words coming from her. Yeah, yeah. It's like, okay, she's earned the right to say those things. She's lived enough life. She gets to. All right, my opinion, who. It's not for. If you don't like to laugh, if you don't like a campy horror flick or if you really are in the mood to be scared, this is not that scary. This shouldn't. This is not for you. If you want a horror movie to go, oh, I really want to be scared tonight.
TJ Holmes
You know, this isn't for anybody that takes themselves in the world too seriously. If you're sitting here looking at a movie and looking for deeper meaning and why couldn't they do this? And this is. Sometimes there are movies, you just sit down and have a good time. It's just a ride. This is a ride you get on from the beginning. I think within two or three minutes, you go, holy hell. And then some drama goes down immediately with Bridget Fonda.
Amy Robach
And so it's Marissa Hargitay. Yes.
TJ Holmes
So that dynamic take. So it is. It immediately sets a tone. Bridget Fonda is pretty wonderful in this movie, how she acts like the New Yorker. She walks into Maine and she's got the bug spray every time a bug is around her. That kind of a thing.
Amy Robach
She's uptight.
TJ Holmes
Yeah. But she plays it up. We've seen these characters in movies before. She embraced it. She went with it. This is a compliment I give you sometimes on puns and whatnot. I said, I can't do that. And you embrace it. Like she just embraces what this is supposed to be. I'm gonna go with it and have a good time. Nobody take this too seriously.
Amy Robach
Exactly. And I think that's the cool thing. And you just hit. Hit the nail on the head. You know, some people want. This is just a fun, fun. You know, I. You know, I would say if you've had A tough day at the office. You've been stressed out over whatever lately. If you just want to not think and laugh and kind of have some thrills, this is the film for you. All right, so food, drink, atmosphere. Pairing popcorn. A hundred percent. A hundred percent with a fun drink. Whatever your go to party drink is, you should pour one of those. And it's set in Maine, so if you wanted to go all in, you could have some chowder and some beer just to really complete the atmosphere. Because this is a horror movie you can watch any time of the day or night. Because it's. This is one of our tips. Pro tips. If you want to watch a horror movie during the day, pick a creature movie. They have to have light, like a shark movie, a crocodile movie. What are some other creature movies?
TJ Holmes
Mainly for us? When you have to be in the water.
Amy Robach
Yes.
TJ Holmes
Because they can't shoot anything underwater in the dark. Can't see a damn thing. So you have to. You have to have it during the daytime. So that's. Yes, that is absolutely a pro tip of ours if you want to do that. Space sometimes works. Space movie. Because they're up there, they're in ships and all the ships have to be lit.
Amy Robach
So there's like electronic light everywhere always.
TJ Holmes
So just these are little things. Yes, we're gonna get you there, folks.
Amy Robach
How many times we've wanted to watch a movie so badly, but it's set in the dark night and we're trying to watch and the glare from the sun, you're like, babe, we have to wait until tonight. We cannot watch this right now. It doesn't matter. So yes, this one can watch. You can watch any time of day, any time of night, you'll have a blast. So that's fun. Now where can you watch it right now? Unless you have a DVD like TJ does and the accompanying DVD player that you need to play such dvd.
TJ Holmes
We have a DVD player.
Amy Robach
Yes, you're right. It's ours. It's ours now. I'm sorry. Our DVD player comes in handy when it comes to this one. But also, again, we talked about Paramount plus AMC plus if you have those add ons to any of your services, like Hulu, Amazon prime, you can watch it there. All right, so we hope you enjoy watching Lake Placid as much as we did. Our next episode, Our next horror hit list movie would be. I said number 21 earlier. I misspoke. It would be number 22. And let's just say it is going to be a major departure from Lake Placid So if you want to see something that is going to scare the bejesus out of you, our next movie is for you. A major Hollywood actor stars in this one and is. I hope this isn't giving too much away. It will give you pause next time you move into a new home.
TJ Holmes
Oh, are we going to tell that story about our place?
Amy Robach
Yes, when we. In the next episode, we have a actual personal story because we just moved recently that was so closely tied to this movie, we're still a little freaked out. All right, so how's that for a tease? Thanks for listening though to this episode of Amy and tj. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Maggie Freeling
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
TJ Holmes
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
Maggie Freeling
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
It's Ana Ortiz and I'm Mark and Delicato. You might know us as Hilda and Justin from Ugly Betty. Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty. We're rewatching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions, the drama and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard of before but you were still bartending. I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you and I turn around and it's a commercial for Betty. And I was like, I gotta go.
TJ Holmes
I quit.
Ana Ortiz and Mark Delicato
Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dr. Leslie
Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders? In this episode, I offer tips from them. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with real talk.
Amy Robach
When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like, snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend.
Dr. Leslie
Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Amy Robach
This is an iHeart podcast.
Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode: Deep Cuts Horror Hit List #23 “Lake Placid”
Release Date: October 9, 2025
Hosts: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
In this lively edition of their “Horror Hit List,” Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes spotlight the 1999 horror-comedy "Lake Placid" as #23 on their countdown. The duo dives into what makes this crocodilian creature feature so beloved (especially by T.J.), examines the film’s star-studded yet unorthodox cast, and debates its critical reputation versus its cult favorite status. Plenty of laughs, affectionate ribbing, and personal asides animate their discussion – this episode is as fun and campy as the movie itself.
“Originally dismissed when it was released, this killer croc film has grown into a strange B-movie gem... Often hilarious... leaves you wondering if it’s a bad monster movie or a clever send-up of bad monster movies...” [09:57]
The hosts make a strong case for "Lake Placid" as a perfect party horror: goofy, gory but not traumatizing, and anchored by performances that deliver way above the script's B-movie roots. Both Amy and T.J. champion its qualities as ideal for relaxed, laughter-filled group viewing—especially if you’re nostalgic for late-90s odd gems. They close with a tease for their next (much scarier) pick, promising a sharp genre shift.
Summary Line:
“If you just want to not think and laugh and kind of have some thrills, this is the film for you.” — Amy Robach [19:32]
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Next episode preview:
A major Hollywood actor and a haunted house tale that connects to Amy and T.J.'s own recent move…
Tone & Takeaway:
Light-hearted, banter-driven, and nostalgic—this is a podcast episode that perfectly matches its film: all about having fun, not taking yourself too seriously, and celebrating even the quirkiest cult classics.