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TJ Holmes
Hey there everybody. It is Tuesday, November 11, and some big Diddy headlines out in the last couple of days. The big one, Diddy could get out of jail a full year early, but he needs to stay out of trouble. If some, some of the headlines we're reading are accurate, he could be maybe undoing some of the good he's doing in prison.
Amy Robach
That you remember how much the judge in this case stayed consistent about not trusting him and how much he said, no judge you, but let me go home on bail. And if the how much could the judge possibly be fuming to hear that Diddy might be already breaking some rules?
TJ Holmes
That's right. So headlines from his new facility. He was moved to Fort Dix prison on October 30th. That's a low security prison in New Jersey. Did he entered a drug rehab program? That's a good thing. He's working in the prison chapel. Another good thing, he got in trouble for a phone call. That's a really bad thing. And then now he's dealing with allegations that he vehemently denies, that he drank some prison Kool Aid, so to speak. Prison moonshine.
Amy Robach
Yeah, that good old prison hooch, that prison wine, right? That's so famous. Look, those two things. Which order do you want to go here? Now, you said he's refuting allegations. Those allegations, to be clear here, are not coming from any prison official.
TJ Holmes
That's correct. And some of the other headlines have been at least verified by the prison, from documents, et cetera. But no, these are the unverified claims that he was drinking homemade alcohol came from tmz, who claims that two insiders inside the prison confirmed for them that he was caught with homemade alcohol. And I think what's making a lot of headlines is what that alcohol reportedly was comprised of.
Amy Robach
Which is what?
TJ Holmes
Fermented Fanta sugar and apples.
Amy Robach
As far as prison wine goes, that doesn't sound terrible. From a lot of the other stuff I have heard, yes, they get hands on simple stuff. I don't know if this happened. But to your point, TMZ has these headlines. Tmz, it's hilarious. They have sources in prison Even, and I believe them actually, that they do have sources in prison. But to hear this already, it was important. Robes, his team. And he does have a team that is working. Yes, a legal team, but he has a PR team already working for him. They jumped on us.
TJ Holmes
They did. So this was the official response to all of this. This is only his first week at FCI4Dicks. And unfortun, unfortunately, rumors will surface throughout his time here. We asked the public and the press to give him the benefit of the doubt, the privacy to focus on his personal growth and the grace to move forward in peace. They say the rumors claiming Mr. Combs was caught with alcohol are completely false. Even his official Twitter account or X account that his family runs. This is interesting. They denied the claims in a post over the weekend. It said the rumors claiming Mr. Combs was caught with alcohol are completely false. His only focus is becoming the best version of himself and returning to his family. They deleted that post after they put it up initially. But by all accounts, they have made it very clear that this is false reporting.
Amy Robach
And that's very important. He is already working on what he's going to do and how he's going to be embraced when he comes out. You don't need. You're a week and a half in and already headlined saying you're violating rules. And you, the guy who has been abusing alcohol and drugs for the past two decades, you say a week and a half and you're in there drinking. He cannot have those headlines. So this is important for them to.
TJ Holmes
Shoot this down immediately because that drinking and the drugs that he admitted to taking over those decades, he says were absolutely responsible for his behavior, responsible for fueling those freak offs. So it's incredibly important, more so than any other inmate perhaps said he was clean.
Amy Robach
It forced him to get clean during the trial. He didn't have access to anything. So he claims to be drug free and alcohol free at this point. We'll see. I would love to ask the judge, hey, man, what do you think?
TJ Holmes
Do you think he did it? Do you think he did it? But he did enter this drug rehab program, and that is perhaps, interestingly, coming just, what, two, three days after these initial reports of him drinking behind bars. So perhaps it all was timed out really well for him. And it looks like he is. This is a coveted program to get into. It's not easy to get into. And it's coveted because it comes with the promise that you can cut off serious time from your prison sentence if you successfully complete it.
Amy Robach
Yeah, the Judge, I mean, before the end of that trial, before sentencing, they were pushing for the judge, please let him get into this program. Can you essentially put in a good word? And the judge was okay with that. And the judge was the one that said, yes, be a part of, do this program and it could knock this time off your sentence. So he now is officially in it and it's an extensive program. You're not in that for a couple of weeks, a month or two. This is a, almost a year long program he has to do. And so what we're talking about, Robes, is people were thinking he could get up to 11 years in prison. He ends up getting four, which now could end up down to three.
TJ Holmes
Exactly.
Amy Robach
It's amazing.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, he nine months to 12 months in this program. It's half day, I believe, each day. But even if he does get released early, Diddy would still have to be under supervision for five years.
Amy Robach
He has a nice house where they can supervise him.
TJ Holmes
But he does have to have drug testing and mental health meetings prescribed under his sentence. So all of that, yes, he could be doing it in the luxury of his own home, but he, he will be drug tested. He will be tested for substance abuse. So this is something that will at least be supervised. We're also learning about what he's doing now at this new lower security facility. He apparently also got a coveted job of working in the chapel in, in the library, where his spokesperson actually described Diddy as saying the environment is warm, respectful and rewarding.
Amy Robach
Good. That that should be the case for folks who are trying to rehabilitate. Fine. Yes, that sounds wonderful. Now I guess folks are scratching their heads, well, how did he get a coveted spot? I mean, okay, I don't know all the inner workings, but I'm pretty sure he has a pretty damn good resume compared to the rest of the inmates. And if he hands in his professional resume, you know, he's kind of qualified.
TJ Holmes
It might, it might be a little better than the others. Right. So yes, what he has to do, he has to maintain the library, clean the office, help with some record keeping. But the reason why it's such a coveted job is that it allows inmates to work in a private office, which that's a big deal. Often they say it's climate controlled, which apparently is a big deal. They get. Here's the other thing. They said chaplains will oftentimes bring in food because they'll have religious services and they'll share them with their assistant. So did he might get some better food out of this, but here's the other big thing. Chaplains can allow their assistants to prepare what they call a call out list. And that tells officers which inmates get to leave their cell to go to programs or medical appointments. And those assistants, which Diddy now is can add connections or friends to that list. So he could. It's a position of power within the prison.
Amy Robach
So. So he gets to it.
TJ Holmes
He could. If the chaplain decides to let him prepare the call out list and some other assistants have gotten to do this, they're saying he could actually really have a decent amount of weight within or among the prisoners knowing he gets to create or help curate this call out list.
Amy Robach
Is that the word? How much of this? I don't know. Again, we don't know why some of this. But how much of it is having a guy who is influential, who probably does have a lot of the respect of the guys there, who also has been. It was very business savvy. He's educated. Even if not in school, he at least educated in terms of life. So he might be in a perfect for this job. How much of it as well is it disruptive at all to have him with the general population? Too much to where people can start leaking things to the press and things like that. We talked about this with Ghislaine Maxwell just the other day. Maybe they are trying to keep her separate for a whole host of reasons. Who knows.
TJ Holmes
All of that makes perfect sense. In addition to his resume, his attorneys are or yes, his legal team is saying he is restarting his free game with Diddy. We heard about that at the sentencing and a little bit at the trial that it's this class he is offering other inmates, an entrepreneurial class where he helps folks who are going to be heading out into the real world with actual life skills, improving their self worth, becoming productive citizens. And this is all a part of his do good behind bars, helping others and being a leader and a teacher and taking all of the stuff he did that was right in the world and bringing it to the prison.
Amy Robach
That's. They have to applaud that.
TJ Holmes
They certainly do.
Amy Robach
He has a lot to offer the prison population, I would argue. Seriously. He absolutely does.
TJ Holmes
And like you said, the respect. Have you seen some of the photos TMZ also got of him out now breathing in fresh air, which his attorney said he hasn't been able to do in over a year. Hanging out. But you could see everyone was around him. Smiles. I'm sure it's a big deal to have Diddy in prison and these are lower security Criminals, these aren't folks necessarily who are the most violent. They're quite the opposite. So it's gotta be a little bit more of a better social situation for Diddy. We mentioned some of the good he did, some of the other problems already that have arisen in a week and a half. According to CBS News, he is facing disciplinary action right now for problems with phone usage.
Amy Robach
We hear this so often, we, in a lot of big cases we've been covering, as the Menendez brothers were another one. But this is a big deal. This is considered a major violation. They can't monitor everybody with cell phones and what people are doing. They get a lot of hours actually to talk on fold. You got a lot of inmates you can't monitor at all.
TJ Holmes
4,000 inmates.
Amy Robach
But, but if you're, I mean, if you, you know, and there's a reason these rules are in place to keep the guys on the inside for continuing any criminal activity on the outside. There's a reason for it. So even if you do it for, for an innocent reason, it's still a big deal, right?
TJ Holmes
So specifically, this rule that Diddy is alleged to have violated, so the Bureau of Prisons does not allow inmates to add people to a call. So you can't conference somebody into a phone call. And the reason why is because they don't want inmates to coordinate criminal activity. And you can only talk to people who are on a specific list. So if you want to bring in someone who's not on your already authorized list, that'd be how you do it. You call someone like your mom who's on the list, she conferences in your criminal buddy, and now you're talking to somebody that wasn't approved.
Amy Robach
Okay. And you could see why that could go sideways and be used for criminal activity. You could see why somebody would accidentally and innocently make that mistake. I don't know if this was the rule at his other place at the MDC in Brooklyn or not, but if you're on.
TJ Holmes
Seems like it would have been.
Amy Robach
But if you're on the phone talking to your mom is mentioning something about your knees. Oh my. Is she around? Can you get her on the phone right quick? I want to say hi. You could see how that happens.
TJ Holmes
Yes. And actually, many people have said there are like absolutely innocent reasons for wanting to do that because you only have limited amount of time. And if you can get all your family on one phone call, it certainly makes that easier. However, here is what is being alleged. Diddy made a three person call on November 3rd. Again, he got to the prison October 30th. He told officials it was a conversation with his legal team about issuing a statement to the New York Times. All we know, according to the documents that CBS got their hands on, he talked to an unnamed woman. Halfway through, she asks if she can add another person to the call. He says yes. And we know that Combs talked about arranging visitors for the weekend and apparently suggested they bring cash. He asked for 200 singles. We don't know why or how he was intending to use that.
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Money is power. Of course. And that's. Yes. He might need to get some things out of the vending machine.
Amy Robach
You never know. You're supposed to only have coins. That's why that was a problem.
TJ Holmes
Correct. That is a clear violation to ask that them to be in singles. He can only have coins.
Amy Robach
Could have been code for something else. Cigarettes.
TJ Holmes
All right, so what apparently happened? Diddy says he didn't know the rules. He said no one told him he couldn't conference someone in. And he said he didn't receive the prison orientation handbook that he was supposed to receive.
Amy Robach
Okay.
TJ Holmes
Okay. So his spokesperson gave this as the response. It was a procedural call initiated by one of his attorneys and. And was protected under attorney client privilege. There was nothing improper. Okay, that's what they said.
Amy Robach
But they didn't say anything about the other person being conferenced in. They didn't address that.
TJ Holmes
Didn't say anything about that. So prison officials recommended that combs lose 90 days of phone privileges and 90 days of commissary privileges because of this infraction.
Amy Robach
That's a big deal in prison.
TJ Holmes
That is huge. So they filed that ruling on November 4th. So this is all verifiable. And funny enough, November 4th was his birthday.
Amy Robach
And we don't know, though, if this has been implemented.
TJ Holmes
Unclear if what they recommended he be penalized with actually was enforced. We don't know if he can use the phone or not, but that certainly was what they were recommending based on the violation that he committed, what, three. Three days into his new home?
Amy Robach
We'll know about it soon, because if he's using the phone still, we'll hear about the next violation.
TJ Holmes
I'm sure we will. All right, when we come back, we're going to talk about the expedited appeals that Diddy was granted just last week. So what does that look like? What are his other options of getting out early? And is he still holding out for that presidential pardon?
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Amy Robach
All right, folks, we continue here now on Amy and TJ with Diddy. Have you noticed a theme here? Robes. And it's going to start happening. We're talking here now the headlines about what's going on with him behind bars. The headlines before that were about his sentence. We're starting to and it will over the next couple years, don't you think, start piecing together headlines about him that are not that video, that are not baby oil, that are not freak off. This is a part of him and him having a team responding. I mean, shooting down anything that's coming out negative from behind bars. So now was it talking about he works with the chapel, he's running Diddy's program, he's apologizing for a mistake in the phone. Right. There's just slowly but surely. And this has to be a part of him making a comeback of some kind.
TJ Holmes
Look, if you've got all Eyes on you. Everything you're doing right, everything you're doing wrong behind bars. And somehow you've always got somebody leaking something to the press. This is a smart move. He knows he's being watched and he knows it's going to be reported. But to have that PR team behind him is everything.
Amy Robach
But all of these stories, we've been reading all these headlines and all the updates, everything is not Cassie Ventura fine anymore. Right. It's going to slowly but surely it's going to take time for him. But this has to be a part of their strategy is to make sure the headlines are about he's in rehab. He's being a good citizen in there. Oh, yeah.
TJ Holmes
And refuting any negative rumors that are. Because those things can take flight and you can never undo them. And so they have been very quick and very swift to manage that. So he's got his PR team working on one hand, his legal team on the other, and they got an expect an expedited appeals process already set in place that happened last week on November 3rd. Then another positive headline for him, another positive headline. So his team has to get their brief into the courts by December 23. The government gets theirs by February 20. COMBS team gets to reply to the government's brief in March. And then oral arguments on an appeal are already set now for April of 2026. That is a very speedy process.
Amy Robach
So talking about speed, we're talking about him possibly getting one year off his sentence already. We still have to keep in mind he. He's got options now for that May 2028 date. Is it?
TJ Holmes
Yes, May 8, 2028 is his scheduled release date.
Amy Robach
That thing is moving back, ain't it?
TJ Holmes
It could be May 8, 2027, then you've got good behavior that can chip away at that time as well. And your appeals are still an option because the legal team, just to remind everyone, is challenging the Man Act. And that is what prosecutors used to convict him. And a lot of people were believed that was a little bit of a shaky legal ground there. This is a controversial act that was intended to basically prohibit people from transporting folks across state lines to engage in sexual activity or prostitution. And it was originally called the White Slave Traffic Act.
Amy Robach
Slave traffic act, what was it? Which championship boxers married to a woman. They got in trouble with this thing. It started being used in racist ways.
TJ Holmes
Yes. To prohibit black men from having sex from white women with white women, period. So they are challenging the usage of the man act to Diddy. And, you know, a lot of people believe they have a decent argument there, of course, that presidential pardon is still on the table. Trump. Trump has not ruled it out. Not at all. And the Diddy team has acknowledged that they have officially asked the president to consider pardoning Diddy when he handed out.
Amy Robach
Those pardons this week about the all the Georgia election hoax, all that stuff. I was digging through there when I.
TJ Holmes
Saw the headlines, Daryl Strawberry in there. I thought, well, he sneaked him in one of them.
Amy Robach
That was in another one.
TJ Holmes
That was another one. He's had a lot. He's had several waves of pardoning folks.
Amy Robach
Steve Rose was in the.
TJ Holmes
Rose, yes. So it, that is. And look, TMZ had said, I believe it was two weeks ago that it was imminent that President Trump was absolutely going to pardon him. And they actually put something out saying, we still stand by our reporting. They are putting us like a stake down, saying he is President Trump is going to pardon Diddy.
Amy Robach
Wow.
TJ Holmes
We shall see.
Amy Robach
Wow, wow, wow.
TJ Holmes
But yes, the eyes of the world continue to be on that Fort Dix prison in New Jersey. And certainly we will be following the story as any new developments develop. But thank you for listening to us as always. I'm Amy Robach alongside T.J. holmes. We will talk to you soon.
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Episode Date: November 11, 2025
Hosts: Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes
This episode explores Diddy’s (Sean Combs) prison experience following his conviction, focusing on the potential for early release, recent negative rumors about his behavior behind bars, and the ongoing efforts by his team to manage his public image. Amy and T.J. analyze news reports, prison procedures, and legal strategies, offering both factual updates and commentary on Diddy’s prospects for rehabilitation, release, and possible presidential pardon.
On the effect of rumors in prison:
“You’re a week and a half in, and already headlines say you’re violating rules ... He cannot have those headlines.”
— Amy Robach (06:32)
On Diddy’s PR team fighting back:
“This is only his first week at FCI Fort Dix, and unfortunately, rumors will surface throughout his time here. We ask the public and the press to give him the benefit of the doubt ...”
— Diddy’s PR team official statement (05:44)
On coveted prison jobs and influence:
“Chaplains can allow their assistants to prepare what they call a call out list ... Diddy now ... can add connections or friends to that list. So it's a position of power within the prison.”
— TJ Holmes (09:53)
On the sensitivity of media reporting:
“If you’ve got all eyes on you ... This is a smart move. He knows he’s being watched and he knows it’s going to be reported. But to have that PR team behind him is everything.”
— TJ Holmes (23:13)
On the Mann Act appeal and prospects:
"They are challenging the usage of the Mann Act to Diddy, and ... that is a controversial act that was intended to ... prohibit people from transporting folks across state lines to engage in sexual activity or prostitution. ... It started being used in racist ways."
— TJ Holmes & Amy Robach (25:32)
On potential Trump pardon:
“TMZ ... put something out saying, we still stand by our reporting. They are putting a stake down, saying ... President Trump is going to pardon Diddy.”
— T.J. Holmes (26:49)
The hosts maintain an analytical yet conversational tone, blending commentary with journalistic reporting. They balance skepticism with acknowledgment of Diddy’s efforts at rehabilitation, repeatedly emphasizing both the optics and reality of his prison experience as key to his legal and societal comeback.
Listeners are given a comprehensive update on Diddy’s current situation: shifting from negative headlines toward meticulous PR and legal strategies aimed at facilitating early release, managing his reputation, and possibly securing a pardon. The episode highlights how, even in prison, high-profile figures and their teams strategize for a future redemption arc in the public eye.