Former Cellmate Claims He Found Epstein’s Suicide Note, The NY Times Wants It Unsealed

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Episode: Former Cellmate Claims He Found Epstein’s Suicide Note, The NY Times Wants It Unsealed
Date: May 1, 2026
Hosts: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Overview: Main Theme & Purpose

This episode delves into the revelation that Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged suicide note—previously unknown even to federal prosecutors—may exist and is now the subject of a legal push by The New York Times to have it unsealed. The discussion is rooted in claims from Epstein’s former cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione (a convicted quadruple murderer), who says he found the note. The episode explores the note's authenticity, its potential significance, the surrounding conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death, and what unsealing the note could mean for public understanding of the case.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Existence of Epstein’s Alleged Suicide Note

• Breaking News (02:36):

  • T.J. Holmes reveals that a deadline is approaching (Monday) that could see the possible release of a long-sought, previously unknown suicide note from Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Shocking even to federal prosecutors, the existence of this note has only recently come to light.

• Origin of the Note (03:05):

  • The note reportedly stems from Epstein's first suicide attempt (July 23, 2019).
  • The only known source is Nicholas Tartaglione—Epstein’s former cellmate and a convicted quadruple murderer.

2. Authenticity and Evidence

• Authentication Issues (03:58, 05:07):

  • The note is referenced in Department of Justice files, indicating it was found by "NT" (Tartaglione) between 7/23 and 7/27.
  • The only authentication comes from Tartaglione’s lawyer, Bruce Barkett, but the process of authentication has never been explained.

  Amy Robach:

  “Exists, but authenticate are two different things.” (04:09)
  “That is as good as it gets in terms of authentication, because, yeah, there are a lot of question marks, a lot of information that's needed to further authenticate this.” (05:42)

3. What Did the Note Allegedly Say?

• Contents Described (06:12):
  • Tartaglione claims the note was written on a yellow legal pad, ripped out, and tucked inside a book.
  • Alleged content:
    • “FBI, you know, looked into me for months and found nothing. What do you want me to do, cry about it?”
    • Epstein then reportedly drew a smiley face and wrote, “time to say goodbye.”

  “That is what his cellmate, Epstein's cellmate says was in this suicide note.” — Amy Robach (06:24)

4. The Context: Epstein’s Death and Suicide Watch

• Timeline Recap (07:23):

  • Epstein was found on July 23, 2019 after an alleged suicide attempt (homemade noose, no severe injuries).
  • He was found dead on August 10, 2019.
  • Initially, Epstein denied suicide, blaming his cellmate before retracting the claim.

• Conspiracy Theories (09:06):

  • The hosts acknowledge the persistent public skepticism about suicide as the cause of death, stemming from:
    • Lapses in prison protocols (e.g., guards falling asleep, not completing checks)
    • Epstein being taken off suicide watch just one day after his first attempt
    • The idea that Epstein "had the goods" on powerful individuals with motives for his silence

  “I had been in this camp for some time. I held open the possibility that, yeah, something else happened. Too many strange things occurred.” — Amy Robach (09:06)

5. The Case for and Against Authentication

• Arguments (10:02):

  • The existence of a note could support that Epstein was suicidal.
  • Skeptics point out the dubious origins (quadruple murderer as sole witness, desire for attention, podcasting).
  • Even if genuine, the act of leaving a note two weeks prior does not preclude later foul play.

  “I can make an argument take either side right now…these things never prove anything, and they're never going to be good enough to the people who are on both sides of this highly charged and emotional situation.” — T.J. Holmes (10:02)

6. Why Was the Suicide Watch Lifted?

• Psychological Evaluation Findings (16:23):
  • Epstein was evaluated by a licensed psychologist who, according to reports, found:
    • Epstein denied suicidal ideation or intent.
    • He stated: “I have no interest in killing myself…It would be crazy to take his life. He furthered, ‘I would not do that to myself.’” (16:23)
    • The logic for removing him from suicide watch relied in part on these denials.

7. Legal Process and the Push for Unsealing

• The Note’s Location & Legal Status (15:09):

  • The note is part of sealed files belonging to Tartaglione, for reasons unclear even to the hosts.
  • The New York Times is asking a judge to unseal it, with responses due Monday.

• Potential Impact (19:06, 19:43):

  • Even if the note is proffered publicly and authenticated, hosts doubt it will end speculation.
  • “It might quiet some critics...but I think this is really fascinating. And look, information is always helpful in cases like this where there's a lot of ambiguity, a lot of questions and a lot of conspiracies.” — Amy Robach

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• T.J. Holmes (03:41):

  "The Epstein case comes down to a note that hasn't been completely verified. And the source of that right now is a quadruple murderer. Do I have this right, Robes?"

• Amy Robach (09:06):

  "Too many strange things occurred. Two guards fall asleep, they don't complete their actual duties. Why was he taken off suicide watch the day after he tried to commit suicide?"

• T.J. Holmes (10:02):

  "You want to listen to a quadruple murderer who has every incentive to get some attention? He's doing podcasts. You. What difference does it make?...All these things never prove anything."

• Amy Robach (16:23):

  "Inmate Epstein denied any past or present suicidal ideation, intention or plan...He said his future plans include fighting his case and going back to his normal life...He furthered, I would not do that to myself."

• T.J. Holmes (19:43):

  "This is one of the most important documents, I would argue, in this whole Epstein case...And there's a quadruple murderer that we're depending on to give us information. This is, this story. It's unbleed."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:36 — Episode begins with introduction to the new Epstein suicide note development
• 03:05 — Explanation of The New York Times petition to unseal the note, and the cellmate’s role
• 04:09–05:42 — Questions about authenticity and details from the DOJ file release
• 06:12–07:06 — Actual contents of the note as described by Tartaglione
• 07:23 — Recap of Epstein's first suicide attempt and aftermath
• 09:06–10:02 — Discussion of conspiracy theories and public doubt
• 16:23–18:08 — Detailed read out of Epstein's psychological evaluation after suicide attempt
• 19:06–19:43 — Hosts analyze whether the note's unsealing could resolve public controversy

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Conclusion & Next Steps

The episode underscores how the Epstein case continues to generate controversy and speculation, fueled by new details such as the alleged suicide note. The hosts express skepticism about whether the potential unsealing of the note will change deeply-held beliefs about Epstein’s death, due to both the circumstances under which the note was found and the overall strangeness surrounding the case.

Stay Tuned:
The hosts promise to follow up after the Monday court decision on whether the alleged suicide note will be made public.

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For more:

• Listen for future updates on this story from Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present.

Transcript

[Amy Robach]

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[T.J. Holmes]

It is Friday, May 1, and there is a deadline of Monday. What happens on Monday? We might see a long sought after and even to some degree unknown suicide note from Jeffrey Epstein. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Rose. People heard us say this right now. What? I didn't know there was a Jeffrey Epstein suicide note. Well, you ain't the only one.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, federal prosecutors claim they didn't know that there was a Jeffrey Epstein suicide note as well. In fact, it's quite puzzling. But this has all developed this week. The New York Times has filed a petition asking for the release of a Jeffrey Epstein suicide note. This is a note that he reportedly left behind on his first attempted suicide. And this is all according to his former cellmate, we should point out, convicted quadruple murderer Nicholas Tartaglion.

[T.J. Holmes]

Okay, so you heard us right, folks. We are now, the Epstein case comes down to a note that hasn't been completely verified. And the source of that right now is a quadruple murderer. Do I have this right, Robes?

[Amy Robach]

Yes. However, there is a little bit more of a substantial backing to the fact that this note exists.

[T.J. Holmes]

Exists, but authenticate are two different things.

[Amy Robach]

Well, according to the. So the Justice Department's Epstein files. Now, we know millions and millions of files were released and it's taken reporters a significant amount of time to go through what may or may not be in these files. But we did. The New York Times pointed out that in the Justice Department's Epstein file dump there is a note that says sometime between 7:23 and 7:27 NT, which would be the initials of Nick Tartaglion. It says NT found the note and they say that that is referencing the suicide note. So it's been referenced and they say it was authenticated. But this is all according to notes in the Epstein file that somehow federal prosecutors claim they were not made aware of.

[T.J. Holmes]

Well, it was my understanding again, as we talk about this note, this existence of the note, how legitimate this note is. The only person or the person that said they found this note is a quadruple murderer. Doesn't mean he's lying, but that's who that is. Now, Robes, it was my understanding, you correct me if I'm wrong, that the only people who have authenticated not acknowledged that he said there does exist of a note. But the only people who said we have authenticated that Jeffrey Epstein wrote it are the defense attorneys for the quadruple murderer, and they won't tell us how they authenticated it. Is that correct?

[Amy Robach]

Yes. The chart that they were referencing from the DOJ dump said that Tartaglion's lawyer, Bruce Barkett, authenticated the note in January of 2020, but it didn't say how he authenticated it. But that is in the chart. That is in the DOJ files, and that is as good as it gets in terms of authentication, because, yeah, there are a lot of question marks, a lot of information that's needed to further authenticate this.

[T.J. Holmes]

And to the extent of. Right. There's no text. We don't know for sure. And again, this quadruple murderer is not in his possession. He hadn't seen it in a long time, but he has done interviews and kind of paraphrasing, I guess, what it said.

[Amy Robach]

He actually just spoke on a podcast about the note. And I will quote what Tartaglion said was inside the note. First, he said that this note was written on a yellow legal pad and ripped out of the pad and tucked inside of a book. That's where he found it. And he said it said something like, FBI, you know, looked into me for months and found nothing. What do you want me to do, cry about it? And then Tartaglion said it was strange because then he claims that Jeffrey Epstein, after writing that, then wrote and drew out a smiley face and said, time to say goodbye. That is what his cellmate, Epstein's cellmate says was in this suicide note.

[T.J. Holmes]

And again, he found a reminder here. He found the note, and Jeffrey Epstein was still alive because this was after Jeffrey Epstein. I didn't recall robes, they say, had authorities say, had attempted suicide weeks before he successfully attempted suicide.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, and I think this is important because I think I forgot about this, too. But if you look at the Bureau of Prisons report, I actually have the quotes that documented this alleged unsuccessful suicide attempt. Here is what it says. Epstein was found in his cell on July 23, 2019, with a homemade noose fashioned around his neck. Epstein was lying in the fetal position on the floor of his cell, wearing a T shirt and boxers. He was breathing heavily and was snoring. His neck was red with no abrasions. Then they said Epstein was determined to have sustained a circular line of erythema at the base of the neck and friction marks on the front of the neck. So it's pretty well documented that he tried to commit suicide on July 23rd. Now, remember, he was found dead on August 10th. So few weeks later, it appears that he was then successful. But Epstein initially denied trying to kill himself. He said that actually the roommate who we've just been talking about, Nicholas Tartaglion, tried to kill him. He never repeated that. He only said it once. And Nicholas Tartaglion, again, a convicted quadruple murderer, said he never tried to harm Epstein.

[T.J. Holmes]

The story is crazy. This is crazy. But it's also. Well, we want to call it relevant, but, Robes, it's not going to change anything. I'm saying it's so, so significant and should bolster the argument and the claims. And what is right now, Robes, the determination by authorities is that this man killed himself.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, but there are always people and, you know, this conspiracy theorist, but actually a lot of regular people who really believe. And it's understandable. And I have to say, I had been in this camp for some time. I held open the possibility that, yeah, something else happened. Too many strange things occurred. Two guards fall asleep, they don't complete their actual duties. Why was he taken off suicide watch the day after he tried to commit suicide? And the fact that we all believe most people believe Jeffrey Epps Epstein had the goods on a lot of powerful men and women who had every reason to want him to die before actually going to trial and potentially outing them and their participation in illegal activity. That is why these conspiracy theories are always gonna be a part of this. And this is why whether or not he died by suicide is really important to putting some of this to bed. So if there is a note that would bolster the fact that he was trying to. To kill himself.

[T.J. Holmes]

Oh, swear we can talk. Bolster. There are so many things out there that bolster the argument about what went down, and it will never be resolved. This isn't because, you know, I can make an argument take either side right now. This help. Well, look at this. This proves. Look at this documentation. This guy was already talking about suicide. He put it at. That's the argument. What's the other side? Really? You want to listen to a quadruple murderer who has every incentive to get some attention? He's doing podcasts. He's at a. You. What difference does it make? It doesn't make any difference. And if he decided to kill himself two weeks ago, doesn't mean that somebody didn't decide to kill him two weeks after that. Maybe they saw an opportunity that, hey, this will look like suicide because he. Robes, I can come up with every conspiracy out there. All these things never prove anything, and they're never going to be good enough to the people who are on both sides of this highly charged and emotional situation. So this note, just throw one more wrinkle in it to it robes the fact that the guy is a quadruple murderer. Even I'm like, yeah, perfect, perfect.

[Amy Robach]

Consider the source, one of the chances who claims he's innocent, by the way.

[T.J. Holmes]

Of course he does.

[Amy Robach]

He didn't do it.

[T.J. Holmes]

Yes. The Innocence Project is all over this, right?

[Amy Robach]

Yes. All right. When we come back, I I mentioned something. The fact that Jeffrey Epstein was taken off suicide watch the day after authorities believe that, yes, he tried to commit suicide. So we're going to tell you why Jeffrey Epstein was taken off that watch and it was based on his own words while he was interviewed by a licensed psychologist. If you're always on the lookout for a great audiobook or just want help figuring out what to listen to next, there's a podcast you should know about.

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[Amy Robach]

Welcome back everyone, to this episode of Amy and TJ where yes, we may get some answers. Some new information as soon as Monday about Jeffrey Epstein and whether or not he left behind a suicide note after his first attempt that happened a couple of weeks before that day on August 10th when those prison guards found him hanging from his cell. And so yes, there is reportedly, according to his former cellmate, a suicide note that he found that is now sealed under his, I guess all of his court documents that relate to his murder investigation or his murder case. He's a quadruple convicted quadruple murderer, but he claims that this suicide note ended up in his documents and it's been sealed. So the New York Times has now asked a federal judge to unseal that alleged suicide.

[T.J. Holmes]

I just got Confused about something. The note is a part of this other guy's case.

[Amy Robach]

Correct.

[T.J. Holmes]

So why is his case sealed?

[Amy Robach]

Unclear.

[T.J. Holmes]

Is it sealed just because of the note? There's no reason this other guy would have. I mean he's just public record. He has a crime, he's a criminal. Common.

[Amy Robach]

We don't, we don't know why it's the case, but we. So this is what the New York Times is trying to figure out. So they have pushed this forward. The judge has given both parties until Monday to make their arguments about why or why not this alleged suicide note should be made public. But one of the big questions about whether or not Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide or not, people were confused because look, he was taken off suicide watch the day after he reportedly tried to die by suicide. He was then evaluated, psychologically evaluated. And we have exactly what he said according to court documents to this licensed psychologist. This is what the report said. Inmate Epstein denied any past or present suicidal ideation, intention or plan. He denied ever engaging in any suicide attempts or self injurious behavior in the past. He stated he lives to have fun, to enjoy life and to learn. He said his future plans include fighting his case and going back to his normal life. The report went on to say Mr. Epstein stated, I have no interest in killing myself. He explained although his situation is not perfect due to his being incarcerated, he noted he has lots to do for his legal case. He described having a wonderful life to include interactions with interesting people and projects. He said it would be crazy to take his life. He furthered, I would not do that to myself.

[T.J. Holmes]

So I mean, these are, it's. Yeah, they're trained not to just take somebody's word for it. Right?

[Amy Robach]

Correct.

[T.J. Holmes]

Examine him or whatever. But he is saying those words. They thought he was good to go. He got off suicide watch not because somebody was trying to set it up or anything, but because somebody thought he wasn't suicidal.

[Amy Robach]

Correct. And he claimed again initially that the way they found him with that noose around his neck, snoring and breathing heavily. He claims that he was attacked by his roommate. I'm not sure how that was explained to authorities, but he claims he didn't do that to himself. And yes, this, this evaluation, this psychologist believed that Epstein was no longer or was not a threat to himself and they took him off suicide watch based on that interview that he gave on July 24 and again on August 10, they found him. His death was ruled a suicide by hanging by the New York Medical Examiner's office and the Justice Department. Concurred with that finding. But most people, or I shouldn't say most people, some people, will never be satisfied with that answer or that finding.

[T.J. Holmes]

If this note comes out, it becomes public, and he completely writes out that he wanted to kill himself. People will never.

[Amy Robach]

It might quiet some critics. Like, look, obviously then the handwriting would have to be analyzed and there are all sorts of other authenticating factors that probably would be at play before people would maybe accept that this was written by Jeffrey Epstein. But I think this is really fascinating. And look, information is always helpful in cases like this where there's a lot of ambiguity, a lot of questions and a lot of conspiracies. So the New York Times is pursuing this and hopefully we'll get some answers on Monday from this judge or at least hear from both parties to see if we are eventually, if ever, going to see this reported suicide note.

[T.J. Holmes]

Groves, this is one of the most important documents, I would argue, in this whole Epstein case. You could make an argue for what this thing means. We got millions of documents that came out and you telling me DOJ folks didn't even know this existed. That's how behind we are in the Epstein. Millions of things went out and there's a quadruple murderer that we're depending on to give us information. This is, this story. It's unbleed.

[Amy Robach]

That's where we are.

[T.J. Holmes]

That story is.

[Amy Robach]

But we will keep you updated. We will absolutely be following this on Monday to see what comes out of court. But in the meantime, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside T.J. holmes. We will talk to you soon. If audiobooks are your thing or you've been meaning to listen to more of them, you should check out a podcast called earsay, the Audible and I Heart Audiobook Club.

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