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This season on Dear Chelsea. With me, Chelsea Handler. We've got some incredible guests like Kumail Nanjiani. Let's start with your cat. How is she?
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She is not with us anymore.
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Yeah, but you're butching it up is
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Sometimes AT&T business Wireless connecting changes everything. Hey there folks. It is Thursday, February 26, and an unserious clown show of a deposition with that welcome to this episode of Aiming with TJ Rhodes. I didn't think we'd be hopping on so quickly doing an update of Hillary Clinton's deposition that is still going on and it started a little bit ago, but it has For a deposition that's supposed to be in private, we have learned an awful lot about what's happening in the room.
Amy Robach
Yes, including the fact that the deposition had to be paused because it was disrupted because a member of Congress clearly violated the House rules. I think every congressman and every congresswoman at this point would know in a closed door session, a closed door hearing where the media is not allowed, especially given the fact that the Clintons wanted it to be open, you probably shouldn't take a photo, send it to someone who then posts the photo in real time for all to see.
DJ Holmes
This happened. Was it within the first hour? Right?
Amy Robach
It was pretty quickly.
DJ Holmes
So yes, folks, been waiting. This is red meat. Salivating times for the Republicans. The Clintons under oath and you get to ask them questions. Yes, this is a big event for Republicans, we get that. But robes? Lauren Boebert of Colorado, not new to controversy, not and actually usually doesn't give a damn about courting controversy. She was the one. And we know this because she has admitted it. And also the picture we saw has her name right in front. She seemed almost proud to be showing off that she was the one that took the picture with robes. This is a bigger mess than we anticipated. And what's everybody talking about today? Something other than survivors, Something other than victims. Once again, this has become exactly what everybody thought it was, just a political theatrical mess and it's an embarrassment for everybody.
Amy Robach
I believe Hillary Clinton predicted that this was what she was stepping into, although I don't think she could have anticipated this twist in it all because it almost seems calculated. There was a photo that shouldn't have been taken without her knowledge, sent to, yes, a Republican podcaster or a right wing podcaster who then put in a caption basically saying look how unhappy she looks and look at her now. For the first time, having to face questions over Epstein. So just taking whatever face she was making and interpreting it in real time while she's testifying. And then when the actual hearing, the deposition had to be paused so they could figure out what was going on, who took the photo and deal with the issue. Then they go on again to say that basically this was orchestrated by Hillary to try and not answer by getting upset about a silly photo. Now she's trying to evade questions. It's just no matter what happened, and this was a drama that was created by the congresswoman. Now somehow the fingers are pointed back at Hillary. It really is remarkable when you see what's happening in the world of pr.
DJ Holmes
We think remarkable robes. Bill and Hillary knew this was coming. This is why they pressed and they pushed let's do this in public, in front of everybody. Why? Because it doesn't give one side the opportunity to, to draft a narrative. There is only now one narrative that has come out of that room that was supposed to be closed door. That narrative is a picture of her that a popular right wing podcaster and influencers put out to his millions of folks saying, ooh, look at her. It's going bad for her. She looks bad. She looks nervous, she looks scared. She looks. There is one side and one narrative of a closed door hearing is an image of her. They own it. Even after it came out, robes, the Democrats came out, after they did some questioning. They said after that photo came out and after the pause, Hillary Clinton and her team were screaming and yelling, well, excuse me, I'm putting, I'm putting it my way. What I'm saying is they're beating the table. Say, let the press in now.
Amy Robach
Yes, at this point they. And they would have. First of all, I understand why they wanted the press in there. If this is all about transparency, isn't this the whole point of the House Oversight Committee to investigate the investigation into Jeffrey Epstein? Right. So this is all in the air of full transparency for the American public. And so when the people who are being deposed where all these alleged claims have been made about them in this vacuum of information, fine. They want the public to hear. They want members of the media in the room. They want full transparency. Oh, the irony.
DJ Holmes
And they want it for this reason in particular. They just got set up. The Clintons got set up. They did. We know they did. This is part of politics. And they knew it was coming, but they got set up up now. And so our cameras gonna be allowed in. Democrats are now in the first three hours of this Deposition today started making new demands. Robes, they came out and make some serious demands of Trump, of Pam Bondi. They're making serious demands having to do with Bill Clinton's testimony tomorrow. Now, based on this, I don't know if any of this is gonna go their way. But Robes, Hillary Clinton, we said, and I think lot of people would agree it was a smart move on her part to release at least her, her written, thank God, her opening statement. So she did release that this morning. That's not a violation of any kind. Not that I've seen now that she released that ahead of time. So it was out there. But man, Rose, I did not see this one coming. But the Democrats have come out and called it. I started at the top, an unserious clown show of a deposition. They said this is an embarrassment to Republicans because there's nothing to ask. They're running out of things to ask her. She has no recollection of ever meeting the man. Never been on the plane, never been to the island.
Amy Robach
The only thing that anyone can tie the two of them together, and we talked about this in the previous podcast, was that, yes, Ghislaine Maxwell is in a picture in Chelsea Clinton's wedding because she was the plus one from a. With a man who was friends with Bill Clinton.
DJ Holmes
Okay.
Amy Robach
And that's it? That's it.
DJ Holmes
Look, nobody's ever going to believe anything that comes out of her mouth. If you are on one particular side of the aisle. But when you talk facts and evidence and everything else and the pictures that have come out, like we're looking at a picture on TV right now, Bill Clinton standing next to Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. If you want to talk to him, we'll, we'll listen to your argument for, for maybe talking to him. She has nothing to do with this thing. No, I don't. Robes. This is exactly what we thought it was going to be, which was one, a waste of actual investigative time, but two, it was for Republicans to get what they're getting right now. Now, is it possible it's going to backfire on. Because one of the things Democrats have come out now and they're demanding robes, Trump. They're demanding Trump gets in front of this committee and testify. Because now we got a precedent set for presidents showing up to give congressional testimony.
Amy Robach
Yes. First time in history it's happened. So why should one president be treated different, differently than the other? The Republicans would argue that a sitting president is different than a former president, but that's a gray area right there. I. The Democrats are also making Demands. And this is something that the Hillary Clinton team said they wanted as well. They want the full transcript and video within 24 hours. They don't want it edited, no editing of the video. And that makes sense. That is the way to have full transparency. And I appreciate that is why they wanted it live. That is why they wanted the media in the room. Because you can't edit something. You can't take something out of context. People get to see and hear for themselves in the full context of what's being said from what's being asked.
DJ Holmes
Isn't it usually the opposite? Sometimes the you, you don't see that often a the witness saying, please make this public, please put me under oath in front of cameras and let's do this in public. Why would the Republicans not want to do that?
Amy Robach
And there's a question that only they can answer.
DJ Holmes
If you want to embarrass them, if you want to show them up, if you want the hold, if you want transparency, and if you want them to answer for what they know and let ropes. How is transparency putting them in a closed hearing and then leaking out just the things you think look bad? That was the point. That was the point. And sure enough, here we go. This is a look the Bill Clinton thing tomorrow. I am very curious. Can you imagine if they did allow cameras? There's no chance Republicans gonna agree to that.
Amy Robach
But why wouldn't they? To your point, have they answered that question? They have said that they, they, this is how they do it. They depose people first and then they have a public hearing. But this is their one and done with the Clintons. It's not as if they're going to do this deposition for hours, an extraordinary long deposition, as we already heard Comer say it was going to be, and then go and do something publicly afterwards. So I can't. You know, that's the only thing I have heard from the Republicans that this is just how we do it. But it doesn't make a lot of sense. And a lot of folks would point to there's a reason why. And the reason is there's really nothing you're gonna get from Hillary Clinton. She actually doesn't know anything. Bill Clinton, I don't know. It would be interesting. Interesting given the events of today and the fact that now you've got the Clintons doubling down and really asking for full transparency now that you've got folks on the Republican side taking pictures and leaking it out to the media to whoever they want to give it to, then that should open the door for that conversation to be reexamined.
DJ Holmes
Well, can you imagine tomorrow, Bill Clinton versus the House Oversight Committee on live television.
Amy Robach
I would plan the entire day.
DJ Holmes
Change my day.
Amy Robach
Absolutely.
DJ Holmes
It would change my day. And look, some of these folks on committee, Lauren Boebert was in, I don't know, second grade. Seriously, literally, when Hillary Clinton was First lady, right. By the time she's Secretary of State, Lauren Boeber is barely out of high school. So she's in there. You know, just the dynamics here. I know she's from a different. She's younger, different age, but to not give a damn about the decorum, to not actually give a damn about rules, it seemed more important to her. Like a game. Well, to.
Amy Robach
Yes, to surreptitiously take the picture, then to leak it to your friend, a conservative podcaster. And then, by the way, when the podcaster feigned just outrage and insanity that people were making such a big deal about this Boebert, then I'm assuming this is during the break before they went back into session, starts commenting back on his ex, saying, you did nothing wrong, like just defending, basically, the release of this photo that clearly was in clear violation of House rules. Want to point that out? This isn't a gray area. This isn't, you know, maybe she shouldn't have or that wasn't cool of her to do. No, taking the photo was a violation of committee rules and period. Now, has there been talk of any sort of punishment?
DJ Holmes
That was my question to you. I haven't seen anywhere.
Amy Robach
I haven't either.
DJ Holmes
And she's still in there. And it has continued. I don't know what changes they made. I assume they didn't take everybody's phone from them like their children, put them in yonder pouches or something like they do kids here in New York. But she's still in there. And it continues on. I've just. I am. I am itching to see what happens tomorrow. Does Bill Clinton have. No. Because then if he says, you know what, the way you all doing, I changed my mind, I'm not coming. And then folks are going to say, oh, he's got something to hide.
Amy Robach
I don't think he can do that at this point.
DJ Holmes
They have been set up and it's all playing out. But stay here, folks. We talked about the Democratic demands. We will tell you their list of demands that they made mid deposition today. And all those demands have to do with President Trump. Stay here.
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What?
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Welcome back. As we record our second episode on the goings on inside that Chappaqua Performing Arts center where Hillary Clinton, the former Secretary of State, former first lady, is being deposed by members of a committee that has been investigating the Epstein investigation. And look, this is a private deposition. It's being recorded. We are being told we will get a transcript and a video of it. But yeah, we. That remains to be seen. The Clintons wanted this to be transparent. They wanted members of the media there. They were cool with the open hearing with the public watching it as it happened. What ended up happening instead? Yes, you have this closed door meeting, but one member of Congress, Lauren Boebert, decided to take a photo, a clear violation of the rules, and leak it out to a right wing podcaster who of course put captions and interpretations on Hillary's face. It just was completely, completely and totally a rules violation.
DJ Holmes
And you look through some of that more than I did. Can you summarize, give kind of not the verbatim, but can you give an idea of the stuff he was saying?
Amy Robach
Yeah, he just was basically saying, look at Hillary. This is the first time she's being forced to answer to questions surrounding Epstein. And the big thing is he was pointing out she doesn't look happy. And so it was kind of like, it was kind of like a ha ha, look at her, she's on the hot seat now kind of a thing. And then the, the one that felt very manipulative is this. I can't believe people are upset. This is insane. It's just a photo. As if rules are meant to be broken. I mean that was really the attitude.
DJ Holmes
And okay, they know what they're doing and he is part of. And who knows if this was ever planned ahead of time.
Amy Robach
Very possibly so.
DJ Holmes
But this is just a. What Transparency. This is what we're doing. Epstein files. What was that thing called? The Epstein Transparency Act.
Amy Robach
Yes. How could it be having cameras inside that hearing, having cameras watching that deposition live. You know, every network would have just salivated over that. And so the big question is why? Why have it in private? Why have then a photo leaked? Why not let members of the media in? Look, and Democrats came out in the middle of this pause and had a lot to say. And they said, they said, look, we have not learned one new thing, not one new thing. And they said they were appalled by Republicans behavior and unseriousness about the investigation. This is truly. They called it the clown show as you mentioned. And this is what they said. They are more concerned about getting their photo op of Secretary Clinton than holding anyone accountable. And that's pretty much what Hillary said as well in her opening statement from the beginning.
DJ Holmes
Ropes. This is just meant to embarrass the Clinton. I don't even know if it's meant to actually get information or get them to perjure themselves. I think it's just meant to embarrass the Clintons and I don't know how effective this picture was, but they, I do believe, feel that they are on their way to accomplishing their goal, which is to embarrass.
Amy Robach
Look, it's, it wasn't a flattering photo. It was, you know, when you're taking a, a photo, when you don't want someone to see that, you kind of put it down so you've got this angle of like downwards looking up. And so yeah, it was, it's just, I just find it so disrespectful and frankly appalling that an elected member of Congress would sneak a photo and leak it while a deposition is going on. That's the antics of someone who is a teenager who's a. And I don't. Just not an elected member of Congress who's a grown ass woman.
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DJ Holmes
I want to give, you know, I'm trying to give space. Right. She got caught up in the moment and did something she shouldn't have. And I, I want to give space. But, but ropes. This is just one where it seems Clear from the moment they subpoenaed these folks the direction this thing was going. And they have kind of confirmed, I guess, robes with that picture. Who knows? But the questions are legitimate in there. Maybe we'll see it. But the picture kind of confirms the unseriousness of these proceedings. It, it confirms that this isn't you trying to be transparent. This isn't you trying to get answers and whatnot for the victims. This isn't about victims.
Amy Robach
Yes. And so the Democrats have made demands
DJ Holmes
now because of this. They came out the, the chair of the, excuse me, the, the ranking member on the Democratic side. He came out and sort of some of the things he's out there. Wow. I can't wait to hear the responses to this stuff. And chief among them, I would love to see whether or not Bill Clinton. Are they going to give him camera? No. Probably. But who wants to go up against Bill Clinton on live television in an arena he knows better than anybody? He's been in that arena a bunch and I think he probably won most of those fights because he's still standing and he finished his two terms after being impeached.
Amy Robach
That is a very good point.
DJ Holmes
What you got for me now that I ain't seen before? I would love to see that showdown.
Amy Robach
Well, the Democrats are also asking for Trump to direct Pam Bondi to release all the files unredacted on a day where there are some notable missing files. They're all asking that Trump unequivocally rule out pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. What do you think of that one?
DJ Holmes
Oh, I think it's interesting we talked about this for a while. While he has not like he could easily say, no, I'm not going to partner. He's been asked and asked and asked and he's had every opportunity to say he would partner and he has gone around that. I think he's sometimes he said, yeah, it's not really something I'm even thinking about. Really. I haven't heard that name in a while. I don't even know he dances around that thing. And the Democrats today made the point. Yes. She's essentially been bargaining, negotiating in public almost for a pardon from this guy. And when she did her with Todd. Blanche, right.
Amy Robach
Yeah. She got the lovely move to a. What, I forgot what they call it. The.
DJ Holmes
You always cushy. Oh, you the one that usually always asks you the name.
Amy Robach
It's a camp. I think it's campbed. Yes. Together we figured it out. Camp Fed. But yes, this cushy woman's Prison, and this is only for non violent offenders. She is a sexual predator.
DJ Holmes
She's a violent offender.
Amy Robach
She is convicted of sexual abuse of minors. Yes, that is a violent conviction. So she should not be there.
DJ Holmes
But her interview, Robes, very little came out of two days of interviews. What did come out? She went out of her way to praise President Trump and to say, nope, he never did anything wrong. Never saw him do anything wrong, never heard him do anything wrong. She has seemingly done everything she needs to do to make sure she stays in his favor saying the right things. And it sounds like he's keeping that card in his pocket as well.
Amy Robach
That's exactly what I was just going to say because he absolutely could rule out pardoning her right now and put an end to all of that speculation and conversation. That isn't good for him. There's a reason why he is not putting an end to it, period.
DJ Holmes
Again, looks bad, but we don't know
Amy Robach
what the reason is. But it seems as though there, there is one. Now, the other thing, and we, we've talked about this, but they made it very clear, Democrats, during this break, that they want Trump deposed.
DJ Holmes
Good luck. But at this point, it's worth the ask, is it not?
Amy Robach
Yes.
DJ Holmes
If you want to bring Hillary Clinton in who knows nothing, why don't you bring in the person who we already know knows more than Hillary Clinton and oh yeah, her husband's coming tomorrow. Former president. Oh, so presidents are fair game now, so bring him in. That is obviously not going to happen, but it's a fair ass. The other thing, Robes, as we wrap here, is going to be. We did it this morning. We talked about it this morning, Robes. This is going to be a big, big deal and a big headache for the president. Where are those missing files that has now been discovered? Three missing interviews from a woman who claims that President Trump sexually assaulted her when she was a minor. 13, 80s. Now we know that the interview, the FBI did at least four interviews with this woman back in 2019 after Jeffrey Epstein's case came up. Four interviews. One of them, she talked about the abuse Epstein did to her. And in the others, she apparently talked about Trump. Those details of those interviews are now missing.
Amy Robach
And the Justice Department has said that they're going to go back and take a look at why they were not included and get back to us.
DJ Holmes
And get back to us. But the thing is, Democrats have won. It was clear today when they came out from this Hillary Clinton deposition, several of them. So they are about to drive this into the ground. They are going to Drive this, he has a brand new headache until those files come out. There is now going to be this storyline, this narrative ropes that they have jumped on. There is a woman out there who detailed to the FBI a sexual assault when she was a minor by Trump and the details of those interviews she did with the FBI are missing from these files. That at least deserves an answer.
Amy Robach
Well, and, and unfortunately for President Trump, again, these are just allegations and he's denied all wrongdoing. But by having them be missing now, there is a massive glaring spotlight on them.
DJ Holmes
And we have to keep saying President Trump has never been accused of any wrongdoing, any, any criminal wrongdoing in connection to Jeffrey Epstein. Not once has something like that come up. Officially, I should say yes, because this
Amy Robach
allegation certainly would, would point in the other direction.
DJ Holmes
But robes, it's missing. They're missing. But Democrats think they have one now and they are going to drive, drive, drive that point home. Well, again, folks, as we speak, she continues to be deposed. We don't know what's going to happen. We didn't expect this update, actually, we didn't expect to do an update at all because it's, it's a closed hearing, right? We're not supposed to hear anything.
Amy Robach
We're supposed to wait till we get the video and the transcripts. And look, if Democrats can at least push for that, that does seem like a reasonable ask, given the events of the day, to say, hey, within 24 hours, we want full transcripts and a full video, unedited, released to the public. End of story.
DJ Holmes
We shall see.
Amy Robach
And with that, everyone, thank you for listening to us. We always appreciate you. I'm Amy Robach alongside DJ Holmes and we will be talking to you soon.
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Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present – “Hillary Clinton’s Epstein Deposition Disrupted By Congresswoman’s Leaked Photo”
Date: February 26, 2026
Hosts: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present (iHeartPodcasts)
This episode delivers a real-time reaction and breakdown of the chaos erupting inside Hillary Clinton’s closed-door congressional deposition before the House Oversight Committee investigating the Jeffrey Epstein case. The focus quickly pivots from substantive questioning to political spectacle after Congresswoman Lauren Boebert violates committee rules, snaps a photo of Clinton mid-testimony, and circulates it via a right-wing podcaster—prompting a rules-driven meltdown, partisan finger-pointing, and renewed demands for transparency.
“For a deposition that's supposed to be in private, we have learned an awful lot about what's happening in the room.”
— T.J. Holmes (02:48)
“There was a photo that shouldn’t have been taken without her knowledge, sent to yes, a Republican podcaster…taking whatever face she was making and interpreting it in real time.”
— Amy Robach (04:50)
“If this is all about transparency, isn’t this the whole point of the House Oversight Committee?”
— Amy Robach (07:01)
“How is transparency putting them in a closed hearing and then leaking out just the things you think look bad? That was the point.”
— T.J. Holmes (11:16)
“It just was completely, completely and totally a rules violation.”
— Amy Robach (19:03)
“To not give a damn about the decorum, to not actually give a damn about rules, it seemed more important to her. Like a game.”
— T.J. Holmes (13:09)
“She has no recollection of ever meeting the man. Never been on the plane, never been to the island.”
— T.J. Holmes (07:42)
“They want the full transcript and video within 24 hours. They don’t want it edited…that is the way to have full transparency.”
— Amy Robach (10:10)
“Former president. Oh, so presidents are fair game now, so bring him in. That is obviously not going to happen, but it's a fair ask.”
— T.J. Holmes (26:21)
“It was just meant to embarrass the Clintons and I don’t know how effective this picture was, but…I do believe, feel that they are on their way to accomplishing their goal.”
— T.J. Holmes (21:52)
Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes deliver a sharp, timely, and pointedly skeptical analysis of the Clinton deposition debacle, arguing that the proceedings have devolved into political theater dominated by stunts and leaks, with little regard for due process or victim advocacy. Both hosts stress the irony and frustration behind the lack of transparency, the manipulation of media and public perception, and the weaponization of process over substance. The episode ends with unresolved questions about upcoming testimony, particularly Bill Clinton’s, and warns of continuing partisan clashes over lost files and demands for further testimony—promising more drama ahead.