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T.J. Holmes
Hey there folks. It is Monday, October 1st and there are two kinds of people in the world. Those who love horror movies and those who don't. Which one are you and what does it say about you? Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This is sometimes the only time of year some people are even entertain the idea of a horror movie. What is the thing they say about us most us horror movie fans? They think something's wrong.
Amy Robach
They think we're sick, we're deviant, we have a fascination with the abomination. They question our ethics. I mean I definitely have had people because I have been a horror movie fan since I can remember. I believe my first horror movie. I don't believe I know my first horror movie was Poltergeist. In second grade I sneaked to a neighbor's house who had HBO to watch it. And I was hooked from that moment on. So what does that say about me? I've had plenty of people I'm sure, judge me for it.
T.J. Holmes
We're crazy. They think something is wrong with us. And some people can stomach a horror movie or two. We are, I give it to us, we're a little on the extreme side. We are, we wouldn't call ourselves experts, but we're something of aficionados. We watch more horror movies and we know more about them than most people.
Amy Robach
I would argue, yes, a hundred percent. And I would say 98% of the time we go to the movies. And we go to the movies at least once a month, but sometimes more, it is to see a horror movie.
T.J. Holmes
Okay, so we talk about horror movies quite a bit. Anytime we see a new and we, we see every big one that comes out, we talk about it on the podcast. But this time for the month of October, we are going to celebrate horror movies and we're going to help some of you folks out. We're going to, in this episode at least explain a little bit of the science, the psychology, your personality traits, what is contributing to you liking or not liking horror movies. That is absolutely fascinating. You're going to want to hear what kind of person you are. But also we are going to countdown this month. We're going to give you a different horror movie every single day of the month of October. And these aren't going to be the obvious ones. Not the classics that everybody knows. Not going to throw a Halloween or Friday the 13th at you. No. These are some of the more deep cuts, if you will. These are some of the ones that only a true horror movie fan would be aware of. But they're good movies that maybe you have never heard of. We're excited about this list and we got 30 movies. We could have done 50.
Amy Robach
Oh, we could have done 80. I think. Actually we had a hard time whittling down the list. We're thinking we'll save that for next year because the movies that we're going to give you this month will be from all different, from different decades, different sub genres of horror movies and not all highly reviewed. Some of them have a very high Rotten Tomatoes score and some of them have a 15%. But we like them and we recommend.
T.J. Holmes
Every single one gets absolutely our recommendation. But why in the first place? Robes, There is a lot of study that has been done on this over the years. Not all of it a consensus, but it gives you an idea and some Insight into why we like horror movies. Why would anybody. Right. We're talking about fear, anxiety, dread. Those are negative emotions. Are they not discussed sometimes? Yes, that's. That's the one that you have to throw in there as well. That's a big deal. We'll talk about. Why would you. Okay, I'll ask you personally. Why do you go to the movie and put yourself in a position to do things that we normally consider awful?
Amy Robach
Because there are a couple of reasons. I had to think about it. It was. It just came naturally to me. I'll have to say. I didn't have to think about it. I didn't have to talk myself into it.
T.J. Holmes
I just might be a reason for that.
Amy Robach
Natur liked it. And I will have to say both of my daughters were the exact same way. Where they were fascinated with Harry Potter, then they wanted to watch Conjuring, and they were young. I have a. I am a thrill seeker. I have always loved the rush of adrenaline. It's why I almost certainly probably gravitated towards the news and journalism because there was an excitement and a thrill and breaking news. So it falls into that same sort of personality for me where I'm always rushing to the. To get the adrenaline rush to. To do something daring, to feel that thrill. But I love a horror movie because I can feel all of those things. Fear, adrenaline. But I'm perfectly safe sitting in a movie theater or on my couch.
T.J. Holmes
I didn't plan on starting with this direction, but you directed me exactly to this point. Who are the type of people that like horror movies? One of the top things. People who have a high sense of sensation seeking. Yes, you called it thrill seeking. They use the term sensation seeking. Folks who are looking for some type of a rush, who are looking for a thrill of some kind. Yes. It plays into why you ride roller coasters as well. This was a great line from one study. Listen to this. And you. I didn't let you in on a lot of this stuff and you saw me almost falling out of my seat like, baby, this is gonna be so good.
Amy Robach
Yeah. You wouldn't let me. Don't look at any research. Let me guide this, because you're going to be wowed.
T.J. Holmes
Okay, here is how one researcher put it, and I'm quoting. Individuals thought to be high sensation seekers would experience much more positive emotion when highly aroused and stimulated and would seek negative stimulation to maximize their arousal. Because this stimulation was intense. It's saying that the negative experience is such a rush that you'll run to that even though it's negative.
Amy Robach
Yes. I mean, you've seen me when things start getting really tense in a movie theater. I will partially close my. Like, put my hands over my face so that I feel safe, but I'm still looking through my hands. I'm not in jeopardy of anything. And yet I feel that excitement of, ooh, I don't want to look, but I'm looking. I don't know. I love it.
T.J. Holmes
It goes on robes. Here it is. A negative stimulus, such as a horror film might therefore be interpreted by a person high in sensation seeking, such as yourself, as being very positive. But a person low in sensation seeking would find the stimulus, a horror movie, unpleasant.
Amy Robach
Yeah.
T.J. Holmes
So it has a lot to do with your personality, what you seek out. Even though you might be a thrill seeker and looking to have fun and climb a mountain or do a roller coaster that's associated with fun. You also just the excitement, the energy and adrenaline you feel. You'll go get it anywhere, even if it's watching some horrible stuff on tv.
Amy Robach
Well, because I know it's not real. Look, I will you. I have said this, and I. And I feel like you're the same. I don't like watching torture. I don't like things that are drawn out and excruciating. That bothers me. And if anything mimics something that is too close to real life, I also don't love that either. So I. I gravitate. Like, I think that's why I love supernatural. I love a monster. I love all of that kind of thing because I feel safe. I. I have joked that maybe I like the extra thrill of supernatural because there are no locks to keep the devil out, you know, so that also. And that has bitten me in the butt. Sometimes when I've been alone in a hotel room in an old hotel, I've been like, why do I watch horror movies? Why? As I'm sweating at, like the age of 45, alone in a hotel room, barely sleeping, because I watched something the night before that now was keeping me up all night long.
T.J. Holmes
And the things that keep you up are never. Because you saw a movie that had to do with body gore.
Amy Robach
No.
T.J. Holmes
Or that kind of torture. It was all some spirit.
Amy Robach
It's supernatural. Anything supernatural that stays with me. I actually was in a hotel a couple months ago, and they had these old armchairs just sitting towards the bed. And it was an old hotel from the 1800s in Colorado. And I had to actually throw my suitcase on it. And then I thought, no, it looks like someone's sitting there. I've had to take coat hangers off of racks because I feel like it's going to look like someone standing over my bed. Like this is what I do so that I can keep enjoying movies.
T.J. Holmes
Okay. But stimulation is a big reason why you're sitting in there. And you are being stimulated mentally and physically. Yes, physically. Your heart rate goes up. Sometimes you start sweating, you have sweaty palms, you have a physical reaction to it and you're breathing hard. That's a stimulation. Now your mental stimulation, fear and anxiety. It sounds like a bad thing when you. But you also get from that excitement because the anticipation of the moment, you're already enjoying that. The moment comes, boom, that's the climax to it. And then when it's over, you come down and you enjoy that as well. It's a cycle that you and I know well. Anticipation, fear, relief, repeat. Isn't that the same in every horror movie? It is.
Amy Robach
And you know what's cool about that is you, you mentioned the moment. You are in the moment. When I am watching something that's that exciting and that thrill, I am not thinking about what I have to do tomorrow. I'm not thinking about what I screwed up today. I am not doing any of that future casting. I am in the moment.
T.J. Holmes
Okay. You are truly a horror movie aficionado because another big part. You've guided me to the next thing I was going to talk about.
Amy Robach
I swear I didn't look.
T.J. Holmes
You didn't. But this is another part of why folks that love horror movies love horror movies because it's is, as you were explaining, it's immersive. You are in it with anticipation. You're on the edge of your seat. You're following along with this character. You are experiencing the same terror that character is. And yes, you have to be there and immersed in the moment. You watch other movies, you experience horror movies. I don't, didn't really think. What is the only thing you have to go see with somebody?
Amy Robach
A horror, A horror movie. I would do. I don't, I have never, I've watched a horror movie by myself at home. And I, I, I've done that and regretted it because I've been really scared.
T.J. Holmes
This, you have to. Because it is an experience. It is a I want to share it experience with somebody.
Amy Robach
And honestly, you, we've talked about this before, but this was a huge connection that you and I had because when you find someone else who loves horror movies, it's like this immediate kinship. So I have it with a couple. I can tell you, Sarah Haynes loves Horror movies. I can tell you that Lester Holt loves horror movies because every time we would see something, we'd go, did you see this? Did you check this out? And Sarah and I would go to some of these movies together and if you. I've tried to bring along people who don't like it and I'm like, you're gonna love this one. And they hate it, and they hate it even more. And they're mad at me for going. So I'm like, all right, fine, Never come again.
T.J. Holmes
The other things, reasons, people watch you kind of. You've talked about this privately before. Plenty. Escapism, right? It allows you to detach from your everyday, all that's going on in the world right now. It's crazy to think, yeah, let me go watch somebody get slaughtered on in a movie to get away from it. But yes, it is escapism. You know, it's not real. You can actually detach from it. So that's fun. Also wrote, it's an out of this world experience, meaning I can watch a zombie apocalypse that's not really going to happen to me. But you can still relate to the characters, put yourself in it. And people seem to enjoy that.
Amy Robach
It feels. I love that because that's so true. It feels like you're in an alter universe. I remember I was so immersed. This wasn't a movie, but I was so immersed into the Walking Dead series that I watched so many in a row. I remember I walked outside and I thought that I might see a zombie. But how fun is. I mean, obviously intellectually I knew I. I wasn't going to see one. But there was a part of me that I had to catch myself, like, wait, no, I'm in the real world now. There isn't going to be a zombie coming after me. But I thought that was so cool that maybe that was even in my head, that I was living in a fantasy for a little while and it felt kind of fun.
T.J. Holmes
The other people who like horror movies, no surprise, but at least the studies and whatnot they've seen, usually younger folks and usually more so men than women. And men and women seem to sometimes have a different reaction to movies. Horror movies, they might watch the same movie, get some satisfaction out of that movie for different reasons.
Amy Robach
It's funny because a lot of people who I know who are couples, either one of them loves them and the other one doesn't. And they always have a hard time because they can never bring their significant other with them too. So I remember always having, like this, like, Hodgepodge group of people who couldn't bring their spouses because no, their spouses didn't want to watch and like ran away from the theater. So we would just kind of collect ourselves. Those us misfits who love horror movies. It's funny, my brother and I don't have a lot in common, but this is the one thing we really have in common.
T.J. Holmes
Okay. The other thing, the people who like horror movies tend to have an openness to experiences. According to some research. Also they're able, I just mentioned it's able to achieve psychological detachment. Meaning you're watching a movie, you're seeing a guy in a mask running towards somebody with clown shoes and a knife. That's probably not going to happen to you. You're able to separate and correct. Necessarily fearful at that point. Also able to manage the dangers we encounter. People who are able to do that have a tendency to more so like horror movies. The other thing here and there is some opposing research on this is a suggestion out there that people who like horror movies tend to be less empathetic.
Amy Robach
Well, that's a shame. You know what I.
T.J. Holmes
There's some opposing research. Yeah, the, the jury's still out on that. But that's been out there for a little.
Amy Robach
I mean and people can, you know, I don't know what other people. You don't ever really have full self awareness. I don't know how people would regard me. But I do think I, I have had the ability and I would think you would have too doing the jobs that we do as journalists, having to process, I think police officers, a lot of first responders. Yes, you have empathy but you have an ability to compartmentalize. So I do feel like I have deep empathy when I can and then compassion. But I also have been and had to be able to separate myself from some of the trauma and that has been around me that you have to report on that you have to intimately actually investigate as a journalist. So I do think I have the skill to detach, but I don't think I'm a detached person. What do you, how do you feel?
T.J. Holmes
I. I don't know. Again, somebody will make arguments about this to say people are less empathetic. The suggestion that you can look up on screen and I guess you, I guess you don't feel as much of a. Not necessarily feel sorry for the scenario that you're seeing.
Amy Robach
Well, I can separate art from reality.
T.J. Holmes
But that suggestion, that's why some people got to call people less empathetic. Seems wild. But no to. I Like the way the others put it that you're able to achieve psychological detachment. I know what I'm watching, I know where I am, I know what I'm doing and I am enjoying this experience. And you mentioned discussed earlier, that's the one part of movies, according to research, that people don't ever enjoy. Right. There are some parts that there's. Right. There's a terrible killing, there's a terrible scenario, there's a big. People get maimed and all kinds of stuff. You can still find some way in the fear to enjoy the experience when people see disgust and stuff that grosses them out. That is the one part of horror movies that people universally like.
Amy Robach
You don't like body horror, which is very much what you just described. And I feel like the audio that goes along with the body horror really skeeves me out. Like, yes, like the cutting, the slicing, the blood. I don't like any of that. That is a little bit too much for me as well. I, I don't like to be disgusted. I like I said I don't like, I don't like torture. So I think it would go along with that. I don't, I don't, I don't enjoy watching that.
T.J. Holmes
Well, we told you folks, we are going to give you a movie a day for the entire month of October. The list is not going to include all the obvious ones, but, but we, when we come back will point out here, at least give a nod to the obvious ones. And I'm sure some of you all are going to have a problem and say we left something out. And also one other thing, when we come back, I'm going to hit you with why the adrenaline fueled fight or flight response in the movie theater is something we keep going back for over and over again. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
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All right, welcome back, folks. You continue to listen to two horror movie nuts here. It's almost like we want to recruit people to the cause.
Amy Robach
I do, I do. I have always tried to. I want people to enjoy it the way I do. I want to bring people along. We're horror evangelists.
T.J. Holmes
Okay? This is the best way as horror evangelists, we can put it. And again, research. I did a, I think I said this to you earlier, baby. I think I did too deep of a dive. Like I was getting lost in all this research and whatnot. But this is the best way I heard put it heard put it, heard it put. When you're in a movie, what you are experiencing in a horror movie is an attempt adrenaline filled, an adrenaline fueled fight or flight response to an attack. Your body, your brain thinks there is an attack going on. You, your whole body reacts in that fight or flight mode as if you're out on the street running from a mass shooter or a fire scene or whatever it may be, your brain is doing that. That's what you're experiencing. But at the same time, you know you're safe.
Amy Robach
There's not many things in the world where that actually could occur simultaneously are.
T.J. Holmes
Physiologically going through that thing that's like intense. At the same time, you know you're safe. And that's just a rush. It's almost like a roller coaster for us. We love roller coasters.
Amy Robach
And so by what you're saying, it makes sense. I would say, I mean this. I am addicted to horror movies. Like, if you told me I could never watch another horror movie again, I would be despondent. I. We watch a horror movie almost every day.
T.J. Holmes
Oh. So to your right we have Rush on, and to my left there's Oddity, Two horror movies.
Amy Robach
Hush and Oddity. You said Rush.
T.J. Holmes
Rush. Is there a movie?
Amy Robach
There's a thing called Rush Hour Rush.
T.J. Holmes
I think that was a. That was a race car movie.
Amy Robach
Yeah.
T.J. Holmes
Anyway, that would make sense over there. What I'm saying is we always have something on. I even complained earlier, like, what's wrong with us? That we had a horror movie on in the front of the house and we hear a woman screaming on the TV in the back in the library.
Amy Robach
We had to go turn it off because we were recording an episode and we probably thought it wasn't good to have a woman screaming in the background on the television.
T.J. Holmes
But that's our. That's our white noise almost. It's just. We have horror movies on in the background. Yes, we love them that much. And we love them. We want other people to experience it. That's why we're talking about it all the time. Here, though, are the obvious ones. Again, we're giving you one a day starting, what, tomorrow? Starting tomorrow, Starting tomorrow. Give you one a day counting down to Halloween. But these are some of the, I think, obvious classics. How many, man? It looks like we got 20 or so here, but we get through. You can't stop. I mean, you can't really start without Alien. Yes, it was 1979. Sigourney Weaver becomes a megastar. They end up with. At least there was a trilogy. They ended up doing another. At least one, maybe two. But this is one of the most successful horror franchises and most respected ever.
Amy Robach
1979, alien.
T.J. Holmes
You know, a lot of people, I. I kind of a partial Alien the second, the sequel, Aliens.
Amy Robach
See, I love the original Alien, without a doubt. And then, of course, I feel like one of the original, most incredible horror movies. Psycho, 1960.
T.J. Holmes
What was the scene? It was a. There's history in there with that. Something about the shower scene. But yeah, that was an incredible. I could watch that any time. You see that. And we think, like, this movie would be over today because just if somebody had a cell phone.
Amy Robach
Oh, my goodness. Every single horror movie out there now has to deal with the fact that technology exists. And so they always have to create a scenario in which there's no cell phone service. The phone gets broken, they're in a remote area, watch every modern horror movie, and almost right away they have to establish that there's no phone available, no signal. Anybody got signal it every time. So we look at each other and we laugh because they have to do it now.
T.J. Holmes
They have to do it. Also saw. That was 2004. Again, they've gotten 10 movies out of this.
Amy Robach
Carrie Elwes and that original saw. Oh, that. And that is torture. But I wouldn't stop watching it. But that was. That was excruciatingly good. Is the best way.
T.J. Holmes
That's one of the newer classics, if you will, that we have on the list.
Amy Robach
Yes. This one. Oh, my goodness. The Exorcist. The year of my birth, 1973. That is an oldie but a goodie. I can. I mean, ever. Have you ever taken a picture and you see some sort of a shadow or a light going through your neck and you. I immediately think of the Exorcist. Right. Is that the Exorcist when they foreshadow the deaths of folks when they take pictures? Or is that the Omen? Am I screwing it up?
T.J. Holmes
Wait a minute. I think you're.
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Amy Robach
I'm screwing it up. That's the Omen.
T.J. Holmes
Yeah. Yeah. See, this is what happened. I get confused.
Amy Robach
The Exorcist. But obviously that was just the vomiting and the head spinning around.
T.J. Holmes
That little girl was great.
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Amy Robach
I'm trying to think of it right now.
T.J. Holmes
You gotta see that. When Children of the Corn, 1984. What's the kid's name?
Amy Robach
Malachi.
T.J. Holmes
Malachi. We always think Malachi, but with the head kid. What was his name?
Amy Robach
I can't. Malachi scared me more than anything.
T.J. Holmes
The redheaded. Yeah, he was scary as. I'll get out. But this is a. That was a Stephen King, right?
Amy Robach
Yes.
T.J. Holmes
Okay, how many. I wonder how many on here are. Steven.
Amy Robach
There are several of them. Child's Play, 1988. It's funny, I had written down. We were making this list, Chucky. And then I realized, wait, it's not called Chucky, it's Child's Play.
T.J. Holmes
And again, that spawned all kinds of spin offs and all kind. Bride of Chucky even.
Amy Robach
Yes.
T.J. Holmes
Was a movie. Yes, that thing did Gangbusters. Your first, right? 1982.
Amy Robach
My first 1982. Poltergeist. I. So, yes, I was nine years old. So I watched it as soon as it came on hbo. So that movie. They're here. I sweated for years, staring at my closet, making sure it was shut. Making sure I checked my closet. That and then clowns. That started my fear of clowns. Because of that little clown that you Just heard the footsteps and then thunderstorms. 1, 1000, 2, 1000, 3, 1000.
T.J. Holmes
With the tree and trees. Yeah. That thing would turn you off to your whole childhood.
Amy Robach
It basically scared me. And yet I wanted more.
T.J. Holmes
Didn't even want to sit in chairs and watch tv.
Amy Robach
Because after Poltergeist, the next horror movie I watched was the next one on our list, Nightmare on Elm Street. Then I couldn't go to sleep. I couldn't dream.
T.J. Holmes
That was. That. That movie was meant to. I mean, what it did to kids. You're scared to go. You literally are. Wait a minute. Is this a real thing? Yeah, that was a good. A perfect horror movie.
Amy Robach
Yes. Nightmare on Elm street was beyond scary. 1984. 1984. All right.
T.J. Holmes
I can't remember how many sequels either, but so many.
Amy Robach
I know they continue to. The shining, the Shining, 1980. And I have seen. How many times have we seen that movie?
T.J. Holmes
I mean, he. What he does and he. To see him descend into magic.
Amy Robach
Jack Nicholson. Yeah, and that was. That is Stephen King as well.
T.J. Holmes
So.
Amy Robach
Yes, it's Stephen King. Yes. And then. Yes, I just talked about the Omen with the pictures and. Yes. When Gregory. The stairs and the priests and oh, my God. How about it's all for you, Damien. And she jumps off of the. I guess the fourth floor or whatever, hanging herself at his birthday party. But that movie is so incredible. And actually we have watched every movie in the series, including the most recent one, the first Omen. And it was so amazing how they were able to pick up. They ended with that first scene of Gregory Peck going to get the baby.
T.J. Holmes
And to be clear, the movie is called the first Omen, but it's the most recent Omen picture.
Amy Robach
It's the prequel. It's the prequel to the original of the 1976 one. But I would actually, if you guys haven't seen it, I would encourage you to watch the original Omen with Gregory Peck and then. And then go back and watch the first Omen or do it in whatever order you want. But it's so well done. It's so well done.
T.J. Holmes
The next two obvious classics, Friday the 13th, Halloween, two of the most successful franchises in movie history. Those were 78 was Halloween, of course, Jamie Lee Curtis, Michael Myers superstardom. And then 1980 was the first Friday the 13th. The next one on the list here, I guess maybe some would argue. Is it a classic or a cult classic?
Amy Robach
It's a cult classic. I think I know what you did last summer. 1997. It. It's so good. It Spawned so many careers. It's campy but also a little scary.
T.J. Holmes
That I liked that one. This most recent one, it was, it.
Amy Robach
Was not as good obviously, but the most recent Scream, I loved the original Scream. 1996. Drew Barrymore. I love that opening scene on the phone. It is so, so good. So they recreated that with this latest one and it is phenomenal. Jenna Ortega.
T.J. Holmes
Ortega, yeah.
Amy Robach
And she's been doing a lot of horror movies lately. We love her. But maybe the Wednesday character has spawned that.
T.J. Holmes
Yeah, I don't want to sound. Don't think it sounds me. She has a good look for it. She does pull off like kind of a dark look to her with the dark.
Amy Robach
But she's cute and you're rooting for her. Yes. Okay. Obviously we have to talk about the Conjuring that has become a classic now and the juggernaut that it is. If we had included all of the movies we love, half of them would be in the Conjuring family. So we just had to put them all in this classics. And would love to give special love to conjuring 2. Annabelle creation and none too. Those are my probably three favorites of the Conjuring family which is the most.
T.J. Holmes
Now successful horror movie franchise in history. Next movie. There's a sweet spot for us on this one. 1992's Candyman, the original Tony Todd, of course, we just love who passed pretty recently last several months.
Amy Robach
But.
T.J. Holmes
But yeah, that's just. Now that is a classic.
Amy Robach
I can't go into a parking garage without thinking Candyman is going to be there with his hooked hand and Cabrini Green Chicago, the whole setting, everything. It's such a good. I didn't really love the remake. I know it did well but to me the original was just the best.
T.J. Holmes
All right. Of course Everybody knows Jaws 50th anniversary just happened. That is a classic, dude. I mean that's a horror movie, right?
Amy Robach
Yes, it's. Oh my Dudum.
T.J. Holmes
Dudum happens to be a fish and not a knife wielding masked man.
Amy Robach
It's a monster. At least it was. Yes, it was a monster. But anytime I watched a movie and it made me change behaviors. Jaws a hundred percent is probably the reason why I still have a fear of the ocean. And I would say a healthy fear of the ocean because there are shark sharks in there. And I know they're not all monsters but. But I'm just, I feel like better safe than sorry.
T.J. Holmes
Some would say none of them are monsters.
Amy Robach
None of them are monsters.
T.J. Holmes
Of course. Stephen king again, right? It 1990 I had to be reminded this was a television miniseries originally. But I saw it for the first time on vhs so I forgot about that. But yes, it that original. Yeah. Aired on television.
Amy Robach
It messed with me because I read the book and loved it. Then I watched this and obviously it reinstilled my fear of clowns. Pennywise, they all float down there. But John Boy, I don't. You probably didn't watch the Waltons growing up, but I did. John Boy suddenly is thrust into this horror movie. I thought it was such a fun little twist to see someone who was normally, you know, in a non life threatening storyline suddenly is in it. And was basically the poster child of that movie. So loved it.
T.J. Holmes
All right. 28 days 2002. They just had a sequel not too long ago, but well, that was this year.
Amy Robach
It was this year, 28 years later later.
T.J. Holmes
So a heck of a sequel. But that thing, it certainly has legs to it. The American Werewolf in London. American Werewolf in London. I should say that was in 1981. But again that got a lot of credit for I guess being pretty cool and innovative in the way they used makeup, in the way he changed into that werewolf. That was cool. But 1968, this is maybe robes, the one. I mean some people might have put it in the top five. Some of the, maybe one of the greatest horror movies of all time.
Amy Robach
Rosemary's Baby. Mia Farrow. So, so, so good. Loved it. You know, I just realized because I always think of, when I think of me, Mia Farrow. I always think of Sissy Basic too. Which reminds me of Carrie, which is another, another Stephen King movie around the same time. That one was so scary as well.
T.J. Holmes
On the list as well. Many people probably haven't seen it, but you should check it out. It's a silent movie, but it is considered one of the greatest horror movies of all time. Really genre defining and maybe even the best horror movie of all time. Nosferatu from 1922, a silent movie. It's essentially the story of Dracula. This was an original and I love, love, love this movie. It's different if you just embrace and experience it. It is really cool to see what they did with movie making and the makeup at that time. 19, this wasn't 80. I got that. That must be 1990 misery.
Amy Robach
Yeah, I think 1990 misery. Again, another Stephen King. He is the mastermind of horror. But yes, that with Kathy Bates and just such such a good film. Could watch that. I've watched that, that so many times. I've seen the next one at least ten times. Silence of the Lambs, 1991. Anthony Hopkins and Jody Foster at some of their best.
T.J. Holmes
You know what? I might do? I have this right? I'm gonna say it out loud and I'll confirm it later, but I do believe this is the only horror movie to ever win an Oscar.
Amy Robach
That makes. Well, no, because actually the. The most recent one, the South Korean Parasite, that's considered. That's a horror movie.
T.J. Holmes
Never saw that.
Amy Robach
You haven't. It's so good. That is. That horror movie. Absolutely. Won Best Picture. Yes. Oh, I'll watch it with you.
T.J. Holmes
It know it was categorized.
Amy Robach
It's so good.
T.J. Holmes
What'd you say?
Amy Robach
The ring. I loved the ring. That was Australian actress, Blonde Naomi Watts. I. This one scared me to death. I didn't want to watch any DVD or any VHS tape that was handed to me. I needed to know where it came from. It needed to be sourced. This movie freaked me out in 2002.
T.J. Holmes
Then, of course, you had the Evil Dead. That series has been going on since 1981. They've had several big gaps, gaps in between sequels. I think they've only done five since 1981, but they are all worth checking out. But 1981 was the original and the most recent. Evil Dead Rise. I mean, your daughters are adults, and they stopped watching within 10 minutes.
Amy Robach
This is a true story. And they love horror movies. I had been telling them about how unbelievably scary and gripping. I mean, your whole body hurts because you're so intensely watching. They were on a plane. They both started watching within five minutes, like, nope. And they turned it off. They're like, not gonna watch anymore. It was too scary. And then we have to talk about the Insidious series because they were. I mean, Patrick Wilson is also just getting. I want to give him a huge nod for the Conjuring. Insidious. All of those films, so good. But Insidious Number two is. Is my fave. Do you have a favorite?
T.J. Holmes
Yes, of course. Insidious 2.
Amy Robach
Yes, of course it is. It's so good with that red door. The last one wasn't quite as good. But go for Insidious 2 if you want to jump in. You don't have to watch the first one.
T.J. Holmes
Those are the classics, if you will, that are not going to be included in our daily list. So we wanted to at least give love and give acknowledgement to those. So, folks, try it this month. We're gonna give you a different one every day, and it's gonna be a different flavor every day. Some of them aren't so gory. Some of them are supernatural. Some you better have a strong stomach. Others are a little funny. It's gonna be something in there for everybody. We're gonna try to give you a description of it. This is for a date night. This is one to introduce your kids to. This is one maybe your mom might like, whatever it may be. So we are looking forward to it, yes.
Amy Robach
So please join us as we count down to Halloween for some of the scariest movies you might not have heard of, but we hope you'll check them out after checking out our podcast. So with that, thank you for listening everybody. I'm Amy Robach alongside T.J. holmes. We will talk to you soon.
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Release Date: October 1, 2025
In this special episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes kick off October—the traditional "horror season"—by exploring what draws people to horror movies. They blend personal stories, humor, and surprising research to explain why horror movies appeal to so many fans and why, for some, these scary films become a source of happiness and excitement. As self-proclaimed "horror evangelists," Amy and T.J. also introduce their October project: giving listeners a lesser-known, recommended horror movie every day of the month.
T.J. and Amy run through a list of widely recognized, essential horror films. These will NOT be part of their October daily film recommendations as they are too well-known, but are briefly discussed and recommended.
Notable segment:
“Try it this month. We're gonna give you a different one every day, and it's gonna be a different flavor every day…We're gonna try to give you a description of it. This is for a date night. This is one to introduce your kids to…” (40:33, T.J. Holmes)
The tone is humorous and enthusiastic, blending playful banter (“We're horror evangelists”) with thoughtful analysis and tangible personal anecdotes. Both Amy and T.J. are open about their love for horror movies, occasionally poking fun at themselves for their obsession.
Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes use their October debut to explore the psychology, emotion, and community behind scary movies. They debunk stereotypes, discuss why horror can be “happy,” and make the case that being a fan is often about thrill-seeking, immersion, and safe escapism, not deviance or lack of empathy. While giving a nod to classic films, the duo promises daily hidden-gem recommendations all month—making their podcast a horror lover's happy place for the season.