Judge Shocks Courtroom, Gives Au Pair Maximum Prison Time

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Judge Shocks Courtroom, Gives Au Pair Maximum Prison Time"

Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: February 14, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes unpack the astonishing twist at the sentencing of Juliana Magoles, the au pair at the center of the sensational "Au Pair Affair" murder trial. Despite a deal with prosecutors for a greatly reduced sentence in exchange for her testimony, the judge unexpectedly rejected the agreement and handed her the maximum prison term for manslaughter. The hosts break down the events, the reasoning, emotional reactions from families, and broader implications for justice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Shocking Rejection of Plea Deal

• Trial Context

  • The case involved Brendan Banfield and his au pair turned lover, Juliana Magoles, conspiring to murder Banfield's wife, Christine, and luring Joe Ryan to their home to frame him.
  • Juliana testified against Brendan in exchange for what many—including the hosts—viewed as a “sweetheart deal” with prosecutors: time served and deportation to Brazil.

• Judicial Intervention

  • Judge surprised everyone by refusing to sign off on the deal.
  • Juliana was instead given the maximum allowable sentence for manslaughter: 10 years in prison plus a two-year suspended sentence—shattering the expectation that she could walk free.

  "She is not going free. In fact, she's going to prison for a long time. And with that, welcome to this episode... I did not see this one coming."
  — T.J. Holmes [03:22]

2. Prosecutorial Decisions and Public Reaction

• Controversy Over the Deal

  • Amy and TJ echo widespread unease with the prosecution's willingness to let Juliana off despite her direct role in Ryan’s death.
  • Concerns were raised about the fairness of leveraging testimony from someone with clear motivation to minimize their own punishment.

  "She had very much an incentive to lie, to say whatever she wanted so she could get out of jail free. That was the deal... you turn state's witness, testify for us and we will let you off scot free."
  — TJ Holmes [04:46]

  • The judge, however, asserted her authority as the final arbiter, not the prosecution.

  "A prosecutor can say whatever a prosecutor wants and make whatever deal a prosecutor wants, but the judge is the one who has to officially sign off on it. This judge... was not on board."
  — TJ Holmes [05:47]

3. The Judge’s Reasoning and Powerful Statements

• Refusal Based on Lack of Remorse and Details of the Crime

  • The judge listed three reasons: Juliana never showed remorse, didn’t call 911 when Christine yelled for help, and shot Joe Ryan in the chest to ensure his death after he’d already been shot.

  "She said up until sentencing, Juliana offered no remorse... when Christine Banfield yelled to her to call 911, she did not... she shot him in the chest to make sure he was dead."
  — Amy Robach [07:02]

• Judge’s Direct Words to Juliana

  • The judge admonished her, expressing that if possible, she would have imposed a life sentence, and declared Juliana deserved only incarceration and a life of reflection.

  “‘You do not deserve anything other than incarceration and a life of reflection on what you have done to the victim and his family. May it weigh heavily on your soul. You do not deserve anything other than life in prison.’”
  — Amy Robach [08:30]

  • The judge strongly dismissed Juliana’s defense of being lost in a relationship and lacking intent.

  “You were texting and speaking to Joseph Ryan, encouraging him to bring a knife and ultimately through the phone conversation, getting his consent, knowing all along you were bringing him to his death.”
  — Judge, as quoted by Amy Robach [11:44]

4. Juliana Magoles' Statements at Sentencing

• Attempted Remorse and Distancing

  • Juliana, through tears, told the victims’ families she "did not believe his plan would actually happen," a statement T.J. and Amy strongly critiqued as inadequate and evasive.

  "Stop. That's awful. Okay. That's just... That's terrible. That's not taking responsibility. And there were so many... You had so many opportunities over so much time to stop....That doesn't."
  — T.J. Holmes [10:29]

  • She also stated, “I lost myself in a relationship and left my morals and values behind,” which was met with skepticism.

5. Victim Impact Statements & Family Responses

• Focus on Joe Ryan

  • During sentencing, the focus shifted to the victims, especially Joe Ryan, whose background was largely absent from the sensationalized trial narrative.

  "They've been waiting for finality in all this. Robes I am so glad that so much focus was on Jo Ryan.“
  — TJ Holmes [17:10]

• Family Voices

  • Joe’s mother, Deirdre Fisher, gave an emotional statement about her ongoing grief and how she keeps his memory alive (e.g., his urn remaining under the Christmas tree).
  • Acknowledgement from the judge bolstered the family's sense of justice, with his mother expressing relief that the sentence restored Joe’s dignity.

  "It won't bring my son back... but it proves to the world that he had value and that he was not disposable... He was a good man, and he was a great son. I don't need to forgive her. I just need to move on. And know my son's memory is intact."
  — Deirdre Fisher, as recounted by Amy Robach [20:50]

• Christine Banfield’s Family

  • Were not permitted to make a victim impact statement at this hearing due to the technical limitations of the specific charge against Juliana.

6. Broader Reflections on Justice

• The Hosts’ Final Thoughts

  • Both Amy and TJ felt the result aligned more closely with justice than the original plea agreement.
  • They expressed relief that the families, especially those of Joe Ryan and Christine Banfield, would have a chance to make statements at Brendan Banfield’s sentencing.

  “This was a shocking ending, but I think, you know, it was the right ending for everyone.”
  — Amy Robach [22:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I did not see this one coming.” — TJ Holmes [03:22]
• “You do not deserve anything other than incarceration ... May it weigh heavily on your soul.” — Judge, as quoted by Amy Robach [08:30]
• “I lost myself in a relationship and left my morals and values behind.” — Juliana Magoles, as recounted by Amy Robach [11:08]
• “You were literally luring a man. And it just... the whole story is awful. But this was a button to this story that again, I'm never happy in some case like this...” — TJ Holmes [11:49]
• “He was discarded. He was nothing to these people. We're actually going to bring a stranger in to kill him so that we can frame him for killing somebody else." — TJ Holmes [21:10]
• "I couldn't be happier about the judgment... It proves to the world that he had value and that he was not disposable. He was loved by many. He was loved by me. He was a good man, and he was a great son." — Joe Ryan’s mother, Deirdre Fisher [20:50]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:22 – Opening on shocking sentencing twist
• 04:46 – Breakdown of the plea deal and its controversy
• 05:47 – Judge’s authority and rejection of the deal
• 07:02 – Judge’s rationale for maximum sentence
• 08:30 – Judge’s admonition and powerful statement to Juliana
• 10:29 – Hosts react to Juliana's statements at sentencing
• 11:44 – Judge counters Juliana’s justification
• 17:10 – Shift in focus to Joe Ryan in victim impact statements
• 20:50 – Joe Ryan’s mother responds to the sentencing
• 22:00 – Closing reflections and upcoming sentencing for Banfield

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Tone and Style

The episode strikes a mix of astonishment, righteous indignation, and empathy for victims. Amy and TJ are candid, emotional, and at times incredulous at both the legal maneuvering and the behavior of the defendants, often expressing what they imagine listeners are feeling as well.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a detailed, emotionally charged rundown of an unexpected development in a sensational murder case. Listeners are brought into the courtroom, hear the judge’s stern rebuke, the families’ raw pain, and the hosts’ own disbelief and relief as what felt to many like a miscarriage of justice was corrected at the last moment. The episode closes with anticipation for Brendan Banfield’s upcoming life-sentencing hearing, where both families will have an opportunity to speak.

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[TJ Holmes]

Hey there folks. It is Saturday, February 14, and what a development in the so called au pair affair. Murder trial. The au pair who made a sweet deal with prosecutors. Well, the judge just ripped up that sweet deal. She is not going free. In fact, she's going to prison for a long time. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. I did not see this one coming.

[Amy Robach]

Neither did I. And in fact, we had been. Obviously, if you all have been following our feed, you have been following this murder trial. We are talking about Brendan Banfield and his au pair turned lover. We are talking about Juliana Magoles. They were both. I mean, he was found guilty and she admitted guilt to conspiring to kill his wife Christine. And in doing so, they lured a man over to the home to pin the murder on him and come out looking like heroes so they could live happily ever after. So Juliana Magules and decides to go ahead and cooperate with the prosecution. She testified against Brendan Banfield, which led to a guilty verdict and boom, her sentencing hearing. She's supposed to get out of jail free. Now the prosecutors agreed to say, hey, we will give you your sentence as time served and you'll be on your way back home to Brazil if you testify for us.

[TJ Holmes]

Boom. That was the deal. And frankly, you and I and a lot of people had a problem with this case in that it was his word against hers. Her word. She had very much an incentive to lie, to say whatever she wanted so she could get out of jail free. That was the deal. Deal with the prosecutors. You turn state's witness, testify for us and we will let you off scot free with a. She has a manslaughter conviction. But the prosecutor said, cut this deal with you, no jail time. That's what they've been preaching for months and throughout the entire trial.

[Amy Robach]

It didn't seem fair. You and I both thought it was pretty awful. And as a juror, I was thinking that might weigh in on their decision as to whether or not they even.

[TJ Holmes]

Believed her because she shot the fatal blow. Right.

[Amy Robach]

And she admitted to. She admitted to actually shooting Joe Ryan, the man they lured to Brendan Banfield's home. And she delivered the fatal gunshot wound, and she admitted it. And I believe the forensics verified that she essentially killed him.

[Bowen Yang]

So here we are.

[TJ Holmes]

Brendan Banfield got convicted a couple weeks ago. He's going to jail the rest of his life, no possibility of parole, we were told. At the end of that trial, the prosecutors asked, judge, is Juliana good to go? Can she be released? Judge was like, knock yourself out. Do what you want with her. However, a little detail was missed is that you still have to formalize this process. A prosecutor can say whatever a prosecutor wants and make whatever deal a prosecutor wants, but the judge is the one who has to officially sign off on it. This judge, it was not on board.

[Amy Robach]

Wow. When we found out this news, our jaws both dropped because we covered this trial every single day. And so this was not something we expected. But the judge in this case, yes, she went against the prosecution's recommendation, and she gave Juliana Magalay the maximum possible sentence for manslaughter, 10 years, plus a two. Another two years of a suspended sentence. So Juliana Magala is not going home to Brazil. She is staying exactly where she's been since eight months after those murders.

[TJ Holmes]

This is a hell of a development in this case. And robes, I think, as a juror, you might have looked at it a little differently if you knew this woman was already going to prison for 10 years and has now shown up to testify.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, it would have absolutely changed what I thought of her testimony, knowing that. And would she have testified, though, if she had known that, or would she have taken her chances with her trial? It's very interesting, but here the judge. What the judge did is one thing which was shocking. What the judge said to her, I think probably felt very satisfying to the families of the victims. And they certainly spoke afterwards, too. So there's a lot to get to. But first off, the judge gave the list of reasons why. Why she decided to go against the prosecution's sweetheart deal. She said up until sentencing, Juliana offered no remorse. She said when Christine Banfield yelled to her to call 91 1, she did not. When Joe Ryan began to move after Brendan Banfield shot him in the head, he was not dead. She shot him in the chest to make sure he was dead. Those were the three reasons she said, you are not getting out of jail.

[TJ Holmes]

It's incredible that the judge can look at it this way. And the. The prosecution. Prosecution looked at it another way, like you did all of this stuff. But we as prosecutors are willing to let you go because we want this other guy so badly. That's the justice system. It works like this. You go after the bigger fish or the one most responsible. But Rose, the judge, I know this is awful for her, but I think this looks also awful for the prosecution.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, I think it does too. And here the judge actually admonished Juliana when she was given her sentence. She said, let's get it straight. You do not deserve anything other than incarceration. And a life of reflection on what you have done to the victim and his family. May it weigh heavily on your soul. You do not deserve anything other than life in prison. So the judge, if she had her way, she made it very clear she would have sent Juliana Magalay to prison for the rest of her life. Period.

[TJ Holmes]

This is the most I can do, and I'm hitting you with it. This was remarkable. And a lot of people would probably tell you this was the right thing.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, I feel it in my bones. It was the right thing. You said the same thing yesterday when we found out. You said, this feels right, you.

[TJ Holmes]

It does nothing about it. It all felt icky. The deal that was made, why she was doing it. The whole Netflix deal and the producers and gonna make a movie. And her. Not just her testimony. She didn't come off. Even if her. What. Everything she said was correct and true, she still was not at the right messenger for it.

[Amy Robach]

She didn't seem remorseful at all, to the judge's point. Throughout that entire testimony, she seemed annoyed and irritated. And even in her back and forth love letters with Brendan Banfield, she. She was. It was all about her and their love. It had nothing to do with any sadness or remorse about what happened to these two people. So, interestingly enough, Juliana did get to speak to the victims families, and she was very emotional, but again, was not emotional when she was testifying in that courtroom under oath during the trial, but at sentencing, she said with tears and sobs, I know my remorse cannot bring you peace. This next sentence got me. I want to hear your reaction to this. She then said to the victim's families, I hope you can someday understand that I really did not believe his plan would actually happen. What?

[TJ Holmes]

Stop. That's awful. Okay, That's. That's just. Don't say anything terrible. That's terrible. That's not taking responsibility. And there were so many. You had so many opportunities over so much time to stop so That's. That doesn't.

[Amy Robach]

She's trying. She cares that the family thinks that she didn't really want to do it. What? That's where your head is right now in defense of your intentions. That is scary. So then she also. Juliana said this to the judge, trying to again defend herself. I lost myself in a relationship and left my morals and values behind.

[TJ Holmes]

Did you see the video by chance?

[Amy Robach]

I didn't see the video.

[TJ Holmes]

I'm curious how this came off. We just weren't able to get this up in front of us. I'm curious how that came off. Because on paper comes off terribly.

[Amy Robach]

Oh, it comes off terribly. But listen to what the judge said back to Juliana after she literally. This was a back and forth. So Juliana says, I lost myself in a relationship, Judge. I left my morals and values behind, Judge. She's trying to get the judge to agree to the sentencing. The judge says this to Juliana. You were texting and speaking to Joseph Ryan, encouraging him to bring a knife and ultimately through the phone conversation, getting his consent, knowing all along you were bringing him to his death.

[TJ Holmes]

That's a good clapback, if you will you to. Your statement just doesn't fly. You are luring a man. You are literally luring a man. And it just, it's. The whole story is awful. But this was a button to this story that again, I'm never happy in some case like this.

[Amy Robach]

But.

[TJ Holmes]

But it just didn't feel satisfactory when he was going to prison and the prosecutors were telling us she was going home to Brazil. It just didn't feel right. This, at least some semblance of justice gets closer with this.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, agreed. And so when we come back, we're going to tell you what the victims families said to Juliana. They were able to actually. Joe Ryan's mom and aunt were actually able to directly speak to her. And we'll tell you why the family of Christine Banfield and did not get that same opportunity. It's a new year and time to get back to feeling like yourself. If losing weight is one of your 2026 goals and you're ready to make progress you can count on, then weight loss by hers might be the right fit for you. Through hers, you're connected with a medical provider who determines if treatment is right for you. If prescribed, your treatment plan is personalized to support you in reaching your goals. Plus you can access a range of treatment opt like oral medication kits or GLP1 injectables. Hers goes beyond medication by offering access to ongoing care dosage and medication adjustments. Lifestyle and nutrition tips and 24. 7 support with no hidden costs or membership fees and with options Starting at just $69 per month with a 10 month plan when paid up front in full, hers provides access to options that fit your goals and your budget. Feel like your best self again? Visit forhers.com amy to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you that's F O R h e r s.com amy fourhers.com Amy Weight loss by hers is not available everywhere. Compounded drug products are not approved or evaluated for safety, effectiveness or quality by the fda. Prescription required. See website for full details, important safety information and restrictions. Actual price depends on product and plan.

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[TJ Holmes]

All right. We continue here on Amy and TJ with the pretty shocking development that the au pair and the Au pair affair trial after making a sweetheart deal with prosecutors to get no jail time, judge refused to sign off on that and sentenced her to 10 years in prison. Robes Victim impact statements are so important in these cases. Yes, they can have an impact on what the judge does. But Robes this is their one moment. They've sat for years. This the murder was 2020, 2023. It's 2026. They've been waiting for finality in all this. Robes I am so glad that so much focus was on Jo Ryan.

[Amy Robach]

I agree in this because it wasn't during the trial.

[TJ Holmes]

It wasn't.

[Amy Robach]

And let's just point out again, we're assuming that most of you all followed along with us reporting on this trial and but not only did Brendan Banfield in his trial say he didn't kill Christine or Joe for the reasons why anyone said they did. They also Brendan's theory or Brendan's narrative made it seem as though Joe Ryan was some sadistic fiend who came over with a knife in this violent sex act and stabbed Christine Banfield for no apparent reason other than pure sadistical joy. I mean that would have to be the implication. So not only did he malign Joe Ryan, he also maligned Christine Banfield and made it seem like she also had deviant sexual needs and that she had had affairs. None of that was proven. So his convictions say he killed these two and then he tried to kill their reputations to defend him. So imagine you're the family members. You've lost your loved ones and you have this murderer telling the world that your beloved family member was a horrible person. It was evil, evil, evil, evil.

[TJ Holmes]

And, and we get it. But we didn't hear a whole lot about Joe Ryan, his background, what he was about, what he liked or his he just wasn't the focus of the trial. And victim impact statements. His family showed up and I'm anyway, I was happy to see that we got to hear more about him and hear from them, because we really didn't. And he was the one guy in this whole thing that had nothing to do with any. Any of it.

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, he was such an innocent. I mean, so was Christine was an innocent victim, but he really had nothing to do with this family or any of it. So his mother, Deirdre Fisher, actually appeared via video call, and she talked about how the Christmas tree that was up, still up when he died, is still up in her house. She hasn't taken it down. She has his urn and his ashes underneath the tree. And she says good morning to him every morning. I mean, that is. Oh, that's heartbreaking. She said, I can never unhear Joe's cries after he was shot. The cries of a dying man. Joe didn't deserve to be used and thrown away and treated as utterly disposable. She says to the judge, thank you for listening and weighing the trail of pain and loss that Juliana left in the wake of her calculated murder. That is significant. And members of Christine Banfield's family, of course, that's Brendan's wife, they attended the hearing. They were there in person in Fairfax county, but they were not permitted to stay speak, because the manslaughter charge applied only to Joe Ryan's killing. So Juliana Magal was only con or only pleaded guilty to killing Joe Ryan. That's who she admitted to killing. So she wasn't charged with anything to do with Christine Banfield. So her family wasn't allowed to actually speak at the hearing.

[TJ Holmes]

But consider that robes the. I know it's technical, it's tough, but they're saying that Christine's. Banfield's family is not a victim of Juliana Margulies. I know technically what it is, but that is hard to stomach because Juliana.

[Amy Robach]

Had such a personal relationship with Christine. I mean, that was clear throughout the trial from both Juliana and from Brendan. So it's even. That's a tough one. But after sentencing, Ryan's mom actually spoke up again. And I thought she was reacting to the judge's decision, because when she was speaking, obviously, she did not know what the judge was going to decide. Her reaction is moving. She said, I couldn't be happier about the judgment. It won't bring my son back, Joseph Ryan. But it proves to the world that he had value and that he was not disposable. He was loved by many. He was loved by me. He was a good man, and he was a great son. I don't need to forgive her. I just need to move on. And know my son's memory is intact. I thought that was so important because his memory got decimated.

[TJ Holmes]

He was discarded. He was nothing to these people. We're actually going to bring a stranger in to kill him so that we can frame him for killing somebody else. He was thrown. He was trash. He was nothing to these people. And to think his family had to experience that for the past three years. Rose that part And I know what happened to Christine's awful. What happened to both of them was awful. But he was the one that just was an innocent bystander. Is something in the. It's not even on the street. Got caught up in gunfire or some act. He was specifically targeted for death.

[Amy Robach]

And framing that's so evil.

[TJ Holmes]

Had nothing to do with anything. Evil with anything. So Ro, this was this case. It was fascinating from start to finish. And I didn't know it was going to continue to be fascinating.

[Amy Robach]

I know this was. This was a shocking ending, but I think, you know, it was the right ending for everyone. And by the way, Joe Ryan's mom and Christine Banfield's family will all be at Banfield sentencing. They will get a chance to speak up. Both of them will get to speak at that sentencing hearing, which is happening on May 8th. Brendan Banfield facing life in prison without the possibility of parole. That will not be a shocking ending. But to hear these families finally get their say, to get to say what they want to Brendan and what they want to say to the judge, it's an important part of closure. Again, it doesn't bring back any of these victims, but it does give the family some sense of closure and a real sense of justice. And with that, everyone, thank you so much for listening to us. We always appreciate you. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes and we will talk to you soon.

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