JUST IN: Multi State Manhunt Over, Triple Murder Suspect In Custody

Summary

Episode Summary: JUST IN: Multi State Manhunt Over, Triple Murder Suspect In Custody

Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present | iHeartPodcasts | March 5, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

This urgent episode covers breaking developments in a multi-state manhunt following a shocking triple homicide in southern Utah. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes detail the tense series of events that gripped entire communities, culminating in the capture of the 22-year-old suspect, Ivan Miller, from Iowa. The hosts examine unanswered questions surrounding Miller’s motive, the randomness of the attacks, the impact on local residents, and the broader context of seemingly senseless violent crime.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Breaking Update: The Capture of Ivan Miller

• Breaking news: The suspect in a triple homicide that terrorized Utah communities has been apprehended (01:59).
• Details of the arrest: Ivan Miller, age 22 from Blakesburg, Iowa (population 274), was found and arrested in southern Colorado after fleeing through Arizona (03:27, 05:07).
• Community Response: Entire areas of southern, eastern, and central Utah were urged to lock down, close schools, and brace for a dangerous fugitive.

2. Victims and Crime Timeline

• The victims: Three women—two friends hiking in Wayne County, Utah, and an elderly woman found 10-15 miles away at her home (04:02).
  • Ages are unclear; one woman was in her 80s, the others possibly in their 30s–60s.
• Sequence of events:
  • Police believe Miller first killed the elderly woman at her home, took her car, and drove to the trailhead where he murdered the two hikers (08:17).
  • "He took her car to the trailhead. So why, if you know, you're trying to figure out why he would do this, why wouldn't he just get away or go somewhere else?" – T.J. Holmes (08:17)
• Discovery: The hiking victims' husbands grew concerned when wives didn’t return, found them on the trail, and alerted police (06:55–07:43).

3. Manhunt Tactics and Technology

• Authorities immediately recognized the mobile nature of the suspect and used vehicle descriptions and license plate readers to track him across state lines (08:59).
  • "That technology is amazing. But these cameras, these traffic cameras tracked him...until they got into southern Colorado." – Amy Robach (08:59)
• Miller abandoned the vehicle in Colorado and was found in a nearby area without incident (08:59).

4. Motive and Local Connections—All Unknown

• A profound lack of clarity surrounds Miller’s connection (if any) to the victims or region.
  • "Why was he in the state? I mean, the press conference, they were asking why was he there? We don't know. How did he get here? We don't know..." – Amy Robach (05:42)
• No known motive, connections, or criminal history currently disclosed. Only charge so far: carrying a concealed weapon (17:35).

5. Impact on the Community & Unprecedented Fear

• Severity of law enforcement warnings underlined community fear:
  • "Some of the stuff they were putting out was urgent and scary as hell." – Amy Robach (11:26)
  • Residents instructed to lock doors, keep lights on, avoid being alone, schools and government offices shut for two days (11:26).
• The randomness: With no clear target or motive, the community felt exposed and vulnerable.
  • "That's the scariest type of crime because you can't possibly change your behavior or anticipate anything or do anything differently to become safer." – TJ Holmes (17:36)

6. Comparisons to Other Random Acts of Violence

• The hosts draw parallels to a similar unsolved case: the 2025 Devil’s Den State Park stabbings of Clinton and Kristen Brink (Arkansas).
  • "It made no sense and still doesn’t." – Amy Robach (18:33)
  • "It looks like and police have said this appears to be a random act of violence." – TJ Holmes (18:59)

7. Reflections on Randomness and Seeking ‘Why’

• The ‘why’ behind such crimes remains elusive, compounding both fear and grief.
  • "When you don't have the why, I feel like that almost is never a satisfying answer...But we have that curiosity always." – TJ Holmes (19:46)
• Both hosts emphasize how frightening these rare, seemingly motiveless crimes are, and their impact on people’s sense of safety in places once thought secure.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On community fear and official warnings:
  "Some of the stuff they were putting out was urgent and scary as hell."
  – Amy Robach (11:26)

• On the randomness and helplessness:
  "That's the scariest type of crime because you can't possibly change your behavior or anticipate anything or do anything differently to become safer."
  – TJ Holmes (17:36)

• On the investigation’s many uncertainties:
  “The age is a head scratcher, where he's from is a head scratcher, why he's there is a head scratcher, did he know anybody there? It's all a head scratcher.”
  – Amy Robach (02:59)

• On the role of technology in apprehension:
  "That technology is amazing...these traffic cameras tracked him...from southern Utah...into southern Colorado."
  – Amy Robach (08:59)

• On the emotional toll:
  "Maybe you would...Would your mind go to that place as you're on this trail looking for your wife to think that you could possibly actually stumble upon or find, worst case scenario."
  – TJ Holmes (06:55)

• On the purpose of understanding motive:
  "Because by knowing the why, maybe you can make sense of it or come to peace with it or prevent it. But when you don't have the why...it doesn't actually make things better."
  – TJ Holmes (19:46)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:59 – Breaking news update of arrest by Amy Robach.
• 02:26–03:27 – Introduction of suspect: Ivan Miller, origins, and perplexities.
• 04:02–05:07 – Victim details and community lockdowns.
• 06:55–07:43 – Discovery of victims by their husbands; launch of investigation.
• 08:17–08:59 – Crime timeline reconstructed, suspect’s movements, technology in pursuit.
• 11:26 – The scale and intensity of official warnings.
• 16:35–17:36 – Return to the episode: reflection on randomness and investigation's unanswered questions.
• 18:33–19:46 – Comparison to past random violent crimes and philosophical reflections on motive.

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Conclusion

This episode sharply captures the tension, fear, and confusion that enveloped Utah after three women were killed with no clear reason or pattern—by a stranger from another state. Amy and TJ methodically explain law enforcement’s actions, the community’s experience, the use of technology, and the deep existential discomfort when violent acts seem truly random. They underscore the broader public concern around violent crime with no clear motive, noting the difficulty of finding any sense of closure or prevention strategy in such tragedies.

Listeners are left with relief at the suspect’s capture—and a haunting sense of the unanswered questions that remain.

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[Amy Roebuck]

Hey there folks. It is Thursday, March 5th and we are just getting a breaking update from authorities out in Utah that the man who had a whole community really in fear overnight and during the day today after a triple homicide has been caught. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rhodes. We did an episode earlier today about the community being paralyzed out there. They say they got their guy but man, so many questions.

[TJ Holmes]

I was just gonna say so. I know the entire area and we're talking about a huge portion of Utah. The southern, eastern and central areas of Utah is how it was described to us that sheriff's departments were putting people literally on lockdown, or at least asking them to stay home and lock their doors, turn their lights on, be aware that a manhunt was underway. Sure, we can breathe a sigh of relief, but there are so many unanswered questions right now. When you hear who this guy is, who they caught, it's going to be a head scratcher.

[Amy Roebuck]

It absolutely is. The age is a head scratcher, where he's from as a head scratcher, why he's there as a head scratcher, did he know anybody there? It's all a head scratcher. But after three women were found dead yesterday in Wayne county in southern Utah, they have now caught the suspect and he is 22 year old Ivan Miller in Rome's mystery number one. There you think, okay, such a young guy, what's going on? And then where he's from, he's not local.

[TJ Holmes]

No, he's from Blakesburg, Iowa, population 274. It's somewhere in between Des Moines and Cedar Rapids. But it really is this small town in Iowa. And when you see this kid's picture, he's a kid, he is a young kid from Iowa. That's what you see when you look at this picture. And then you hear now what police believe he did, it's confusing. And then to try and even begin to understand why, I don't know where you start.

[Amy Roebuck]

And they haven't released the manner of death, but they did tell us three women. Three women found dead. Two of them were hiking together in the area and another was found dead at a home that they say is about 10 or 15 miles away. That home is where they found, they say, an elderly woman. An elderly woman? A woman in her 80s. The other two, there's still some discrepancy about the ages, but one he believes in the 30s. And then he said 60s before. And today in his press conference he said maybe 40s, so not sure there. But these two women were walking together. These three women found in robes, it sent the area, not just the immediate area, but we're talking about huge portions of that state were on alert.

[TJ Holmes]

Correct. Because police, from the get go, once they knew that they had a suspect on the loose, they knew they were looking for at least at one point, a particular vehicle. They knew their suspect had wheels, so they knew their suspect could travel far. These are remote areas in the Utah desert and yes, there isn't high populations and there's expansive terrain. So they knew he could be in a lot of different places. Pretty quickly.

[Amy Roebuck]

And we should mention that, in fact. Yes, he was found not in the area. Actually was caught in southern Colorado by way of Arizona. We'll explain that in just a second. But we talking about what? Yes, he's off the streets, they say, and there's no danger to the community. Well, Robes, you ask, first of all, motive. Why he was trying to understand, is there a connection between the three women? Like the two women hiking together? Yes, they're friends. But why the third, a motive for it all. They've got nothing.

[TJ Holmes]

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[TJ Holmes]

You. You, from what we understand, correct, he started at the older woman's home.

[Amy Roebuck]

Yeah, he's always started there. But again, not. Don't know why he was there in the first place. They have no answers about any of that. And why he went from her house over to the trailhead. Also, he. He said he's from Iowa. Why was he in the state? I mean, the press conference, they were asking why was he there? We don't know. How did he get here? We don't know because he stole a

[TJ Holmes]

vehicle once he started on the move. And certainly now that they have his name, you would think they would try. That would be the first thing they would figure out. Where has he been staying? How has he traveled to that small town in southern Utah? And does he have any connection to the area? Does he have family there? Did he go to school around the area? It's a. It's a pretty big distance. And not a lot of answers as to why a young man from Iowa would be there in the first place and then commit these horrific crimes.

[Amy Roebuck]

And again, they haven't told us the manner of death here, but you could. I mean, you just. Oh, my goodness. They haven't seen anything about a weapon or anything like that either. But this was a detail that the. The sheriff out there did give in the press conference that we didn't know about. Right. It's a trail. So you might wonder, maybe some other hikers were along. And it was pretty horrific to hear how the first two women were found.

[TJ Holmes]

Yes. All we were told is that someone found these women on the hiking trail. Well, now we know it was their husband. So these women apparently were on a hike together. They were due back home at a certain time. And once they missed that window, the husbands grew concerned and they drove out to the trailhead. They knew where their wives had been hiking. And so, yes, it was their own husbands who found them on that trail. And again, because we don't know their manner of death, we don't know what Those poor men came upon. But that had to be. You know, you think about it. Maybe they got lost, maybe they're in trouble. Maybe you would, would you. Would your mind go to that place as you're on this trail looking for your wife to think that you could possibly actually stumble upon or find, worst case scenario.

[Amy Roebuck]

And they did. And the husbands were the one that. Ones that first alerted police that anything was going on that started all of this. So the police get there and they're investigating Robes. And while they're there at the trailhead, they see a vehicle that they found suspicious. And it's that vehicle that ends up tracing back to the home where authorities go and then find this elderly woman dead as well. So this is how this all started. But then they go back and they. They trade. Even though they found the two women first, that's not the order of the crime, according to police, at least.

[TJ Holmes]

Yes, they believe that for whatever reason, this young man, Ivan Miller, went to the old woman's house and killed her. First in her home. Correct. Inside her home. Then he took her car to the trailhead. So why, if you know, you're trying to figure out why he would do this, why wouldn't he just get away or go somewhere else? No, he goes for a hike and then on that trailhead, he kills the two woman. Two women. And then leaves the older woman's car at the trailhead. That's how police connected that dot and then took another vehicle. And it was police ability through technology to track him all the way to Colorado.

[Amy Roebuck]

Where is he? What exactly is he doing? Where is he going? But yeah, he took one of the women's vehicles that police say he had just murdered. So that technology is amazing. But these cameras, these traffic cameras tracked him. These license plate readers tracked him from southern Utah, said he drove into Arizona. They continued to track that car until they got into southern Colorado, where they were able to track it down. They said they found it, he wasn't in it, but they searched a nearby area and eventually took him into custody without incident. And that is it. What sense does this make? The randomness of this crime? Robes, this alleged crime, he's the alleged criminal. But the randomness of this. You said the husbands thinking maybe the wives got lost or maybe there was an accident of some kind. Robes, your mind did not. Does not go to something so random.

[TJ Holmes]

Well, especially. Look, I know everyone always says things like this never happen here. This is such a quiet town, this is such a small town, but this actually is the exact description of this area. In Torrey, Utah. I looked it up earlier this morning when we were talking about this, and it's, again, a town of what, 300 folks. It's in what they call a desert high, high area, where they're like, elevation. It's gorgeous. There's hiking, there's fishing. People are outdoors. This is an area where you wouldn't even lock your doors, where you might leave your car keys in your vehicle, where sheriff's deputies were actually telling folks, hey, make sure you don't have your car keys in your car. That's how safe this area is typically. So, yes. I can't imagine anyone was even envisioning walking upon and finding their wives murdered on a hiking trail in literally the middle of nowhere.

[Amy Roebuck]

And the sheriff, we give them credit, he's been thrown into a national spotlight to a certain degree. He was. Look, we. We see a lot of sheriffs, smaller town sheriffs, have a lot thrown at them. And I thought this guy did a pretty good job of answering as much as he could, but it became clear in listening to him. And I know it's early in the investigation. They just don't know. And I believe, and I think Robes, some of the warnings they were given to the community were. We talked about this. We've done tons of manhunts. And you always hear the end, armed and dangerous. Do not approach. That's scary enough. Some of the stuff they were putting out was urgent and scary as hell.

[TJ Holmes]

Yes. Leave your lights on. Don't be alone. Try to be with other people. Please stay in your home if you can. Lock your doors. They didn't close schools just for today. They closed them for today and tomorrow. They said they had counselors at the ready, government offices, health clinics. You don't just shut down these buildings unless there is a serious threat of imminent danger. And that's certainly how they made it seem. And, you know, to that point, investigators have said that these do not appear to be target attacks. So if you can't put a motive behind someone, if someone isn't going after a specific target or a specific victim, that's scary as hell. As rare as it is, when it does happen, that inability to know who and when someone will strike next is just crippling. I mean, that's so scary.

[Amy Roebuck]

You said, as rare as it is, that this happens. And as soon as you said it, I thought, my goodness, we just covered another story where this happened. Stay here.

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[Amy Roebuck]

We are back here on Amy and TJ on this Thursday, just getting an update on a breaking news story. As a story that started our day, it was our first episode, we put up today talking about a killer on the loose in southern Utah where authorities have put their community on alert. Several communities closed their schools, closed local government buildings, told people to lock their doors, keep your lights on because there was a killer on the loose. After three women were found dead, they say they have now found their suspect, a 22 year old named Ivan Miller from Blakesburg, Iowa. They don't know why he was in the area. They don't know why he might have done this. They don't know what his connections might have been to the area. So a lot of questions here now. Robes and the the scary One of the scariest parts sometimes about crimes like this is just the randomness of it. You can't how could you have put yourself in a different position, a better position or a safer position? You went out for a hike and somebody who doesn't know you just decides to do what?

[TJ Holmes]

Yes.

[Amy Roebuck]

That's awful.

[TJ Holmes]

That's the scariest type of crime because you can't possibly change your behavior or anticipate anything or do anything differently to become safer. When someone is willing to attack and kill someone they don't know for no reason. And right now that is what investigators are trying to figure out. What could possibly have been Ivan Miller's motive? They did say they don't believe that these women were targeted. So far he's only technically been charged with one count of carrying a concealed weapon. But clearly they have identified him as the suspect in the triple homicide and so more charges are certainly coming and this may be a part of their investigation. Just trying to get him to talk. Talk. Why? Why did you want to do this? You're 22 years old, you're from a completely different state and after you killed once and you've got someone's vehicle, why wouldn't you just go on and move through? Why go and find more victims? That is just frightening.

[Amy Roebuck]

And Rose, we. I didn't think about it until this moment but we cover. Was it not. It was last year. Was it not two. A couple stabbed on a hike in Arkansas, daughters with them and some like high school teacher. Was the guy who did it random as all get out. They found him later at a barber shop. Was it not? And that was another one there was. It made no sense and it still doesn't.

[TJ Holmes]

Clinton and Kristen Brink. This happened at Devil's Den State park right there in Arkansas. And yes they had their two young daughters with them. He left them alone. But yes, a random young white guy, 28 year old teacher Andrew James McGann and there is still no known motive. It. It looks like and police have said this appears to be a random act of violence.

[Amy Roebuck]

What do you do Robes? And what do they tell folks? What. No excuse me. What do they tell women? Go with somebody especially have somebody with you, have a partner with you. And in both of these cases double death on a hike row in this. And it. We might never know. It's just these, some of these stories. Robes. We will. We just will never know. It makes no sense sometimes the randomness

[TJ Holmes]

of life and it's a reminder that yes, there are evil people in the world. And I think having covered crime for so many years the question people always want answered is why of course they want to know who and know what and when. But the why carries so much meaning. Because by knowing the why, maybe you can make sense of it or come to peace with it or prevent it. But when you don't have the why, I feel like that almost is never a satisfying answer. When people, when criminals, when murderers actually do explain, it doesn't actually make things better. But we have that curiosity always. And certainly I think if anything else to prevent or to look for or to see warning signs or to just try and find a way to keep those we love safe. And this kind of stuff is just scary, especially for those of us who love to hike and just to feel that peace with nature and to know that, that some evil random act is lurking and you don't see it coming. It's, it's scary. And we're just certainly glad that they have their guy. So that is a, certainly a big update there in this massive manhunt in Utah. We will of course keep our eye on the situation for those wise if they become available. But we thank you for listening to us as always. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.

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