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Hey there folks. It is Friday, March 6, and he lost one of the most prestigious jobs in all of college sports. But hey, at least he's not going to jail. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This is a kind of a thud of a conclusion to watch what was a really explosive story out of the University of Michigan.
Amy Rock
Yeah. This made crazy headlines everywhere when Sharon Moore the details that were coming out that an affair was exposed. He was in his ex girlfriend's kitchen with a butter knife saying, you ruined my life. My blood is on your hands. He's charged, he's arrested. He's a married father of three. Today he walks into court hand in hand with his wife. And most of us are expecting an evidentiary hearing today. But that is not what happened.
TJ Holmes
No. You said he walked into court holding hands with his wife. He walked out of court almost a free man. Now, it's not guaranteed and not assured, but by all accounts and all the legal experts, they do not think ex Michigan coach Sharon Moore will spend a single moment in jail. So let's tell you what happened today. Robes. This story I remind me of the month. When did this go down?
Amy Rock
December 10, 2025.
TJ Holmes
All right, so this just went down at the conclusion of the college football season. You University of Michigan head Coach Sharon Moore, 37 years old, in his second year doing gangbusters at Michigan.
Amy Rock
Multimillion dollar contract, 6 million a year.
TJ Holmes
He's winning. He's just getting started. He has his whole life and career, quite frankly. Ropes. He is set up for success for decades in his career and then boom, all of a sudden. I don't know where we start getting breaking news headlines in December. What the hell is going on? Because this wasn't just a matter of headlines of coach caught an affair. No, no, no, no. Swear. This was like a dangerous situation for a while in which he got arrested and quite frankly, he was sent to the hospital for a mental evaluation.
Amy Rock
Yes, it's one thing to have an affair exposed with a staffer. The staffer who he was reportedly having an affair with was his own executive assistant. A 32 year old blonde hair, blue eyed assistant. Her name was Paige. And apparently, according to all the headlines that came out, she broke up with him. He went, well, he got upset. I was gonna say crazy, but I didn't wanna. Okay, fine, he got really emotional. Let's just say that.
TJ Holmes
Yes.
Amy Rock
And he reportedly barged into her home, grabbed a butter knife and maybe even a pair of kitchen scissors from some reports and threatened his own life. He wasn't threatening her again with a butter knife.
TJ Holmes
Again, I have clear. There is nowhere I have ever read that he was threatening this woman. Is that correct? You haven't? Okay.
Amy Rock
Any report that I have seen was only that he came into her home maybe perhaps unwanted, so perhaps she didn't want him in her home. She. He barged into her home and threatened himself, threatened his own life because she had broken up with him and wasn't returning his texts. And reportedly he told her, my blood is on your hands. You ruined my life. Because he went straight from being let go as the head coach because she went, reportedly she went to the University of Michigan, said, he is harassing me.
TJ Holmes
That.
Amy Rock
Okay, that's harassing me online.
TJ Holmes
This all got started because she went to the university, not because she went to police for any reason. So this was not a police matter. This was a matter of her going to the university, which at that point was going to cost him his job 100%.
Amy Rock
And she knew that. So she went to the university, basically said, yeah, we've been having an affair for two years. I broke up with him and he can't handle it. He's now harassing me on texts. And she tells the university, reportedly shows the university some of the texts, so much so that they feel very confident with calling him then into the office and saying, you're fired. And then that is when reportedly he went to her residence and said, you ruined my life and threatened his own life.
TJ Holmes
And that's when police were called and this became a police incident. There were, I still can see vividly that image of him sitting in the police and that little box, if you will, in that police, in that prison or jail uniform, if you will. But they took him away and put him to a mental evaluation, robes. They were concerned about him hurting himself. This was, this wasn't a fall from grace. This was a dump from Grace, he went from the Michigan coach to being out of a job to being in jail in the blink of an eye.
Amy Rock
And the charges that he was initially charged with, if he had been convicted, he would have spent more than half a decade behind bars. So these were serious charges. He was looking at at least five years in prison, which would have obviously been devastating. We mentioned he has three young daughters. He is married. He had one of the most enviable positions in all of college football, coaching. Would you not say.
TJ Holmes
I'm trying to think. It's hard, Rove, to keep thinking of a job more prestigious than this? You could, you could talk about Alabama, you could talk about Ohio State, you could talk about Texas, and you even think about college basketball, maybe Duke. May you. You try to think of a more prestigious job in all of coaching, not just even all of college. You could argue all of coaching. Robes, this is a job that you just don't fall into. This is a job that is the. It's the top of the heap in Robes. He was doing well at it, right? He was doing well. And so this is a 34, excuse me, 37 year old. This is a young guy to get in that spot ropes. And so all of us at the time, even if you weren't familiar with him, people get Michigan football.
Amy Rock
Correct.
TJ Holmes
You understand what that means? So that's why this became such a big story at the time. And trying to understand, first thing, he gave all this up for what? He threw this all away for what? And we were trying to understand this story. And quite frankly, Robes, I don't have a good handle on it. I still don't, but I. He's not going to prison.
Amy Rock
No. And thank goodness. But look, the why, again, we've talked about this, so we'll probably keep talking about this on this podcast. We always want to know the why. The why is never, ever satisfactory. But look, here is the deal. And look, we should point out, actually going into this evidentiary hearing, this hearing had been called because his attorneys were upset at the process. They basically said, hey, wait a minute, police made the jump to arrest our client and then prosecutors jumped to charge our client. All based on this woman and her attorney calling 91 1. But certain factors weren't considered when making or bringing these charges.
TJ Holmes
Okay, this is where good lawyering matters, right? That who knew? But the fact that when police were called, they didn't have the information that this was a domestic relationship, consensual relationship, quite frankly, makes a difference in how the police would have behaved, who they might have arrested and what charges might come. Who knew? That means you got a good lawyer. Fine. Here's where we are. So, Robes, it leads us to this hearing where we thought that matter was going to get adjudicated, but instead. That's not what happened.
Amy Rock
Yes, it was a bit of a surprise because instead we got to hear a plea deal. So what happened today in court, and this was a little bit of a shocker. It was, quite frankly, a big shocker. Sharon Moore was able to plead no contest. That means he doesn't have to technically admit guilt. You get to do this once in your life. This was his no contest card. He pleaded no contest to misdemeanor charges. And here is the. Here are the charges of a malicious use of a telecommunications device in the context of a domestic relationship.
TJ Holmes
Okay.
Amy Rock
And he pleaded no contest to the misdemeanor charge of trespassing.
TJ Holmes
Okay. No, we're not. He has. He's pled guilty to nothing.
Amy Rock
He's pled guilty to nothing.
TJ Holmes
This entire incident now, in which this guy lost the job has re. Resulted in. And again, Robe, there's a pot. It's next month, is it not? He still has a sentencing hearing, correct? Is that right? Correct. Is there anywhere you have read, is there any expectation that he's going to spend a single night in jail?
Amy Rock
I think most people believe he will never spend a single night in jail. What he was able to avoid in this plea agreement, the prosecution, the state agreed to dismiss the felony charge. This was the big deal. He had a felony charge. He was facing of third degree home invasion. And he had another misdemeanor charge of stalking and another misdemeanor charge of breaking and entering. Those are not charges you want on your record ever. So he was able to have all of those charges dismissed. So the most. The three most serious charges were all dismissed as a part of this plea deal. That's a big deal.
TJ Holmes
It's a big win. It's a big deal. It's a big win. It's a big moment. It's a big headline. It's a big development. But. But it might not be. Folks, the thing that most people are talking about out of today. Stay here. It was what happened and the image we saw when the coach, the former coach was walking into court that has so many people buzzing. Stay here. Success starts with your drive. And American Public University is here to fuel it.
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All right, we continue here on this Friday developing story. Just got word. Big breaking news in December has now somewhat wrapped up without necessarily a, I guess, robes, a headline making conclusion necessarily University of Michigan coach fired after being involved with his assistant in affair. And today it all just kind of goes away without him going to jail, without him pleading guilty, without it seems like robes. A lot of people might even look at this and go, yeah, that's about right. It's crazy as that sounds. Yeah, that's about right. I. It's. Who, who is it to say robes if it's right or if it wrong, if the punishment fits the crime. He lost a prestigious job. He lost his reputation. He might never be able to coach again. He's not going to jail. But do you balance the guy having an affair, do you balance the guy stepping out on his wife, stepping out on his family with what now has been lost? I don't know. So I say, okay, somebody see that? And go, yeah, it's about right. That's about even. That's what should have happened.
Amy Rock
You know what? I am just very happy about that he's okay because I remember when this all broke in December. Yes, it's, it's tragic. It's, it's jarring to not just Sharon Moore and his family, but to the entire University of Michigan football community. People who believed in him were guided by him, who wanted him to continue to lead their organization. This was devastating to a huge number of people.
TJ Holmes
Yes.
Amy Rock
And, and we were worried, as we initially reported on this in December, of his mental health to think that, yes, okay, people make mistakes. People have affairs. People end marriages and go off with other. Like, look, this happens all the time. I'm not trying to normalize it, but this is a part, this was different. He was so distraught. He was threatening his own life. It was his own wife. And honestly, this made me think, you know what? I don't know anything about their relationship, but I thought it was pretty remarkable. The only thing you heard from his wife was her calling 911 to say, I am Worried about my husband and his. In his ability to stay safe to. To not harm himself. And she kind of sets things in motion as well. In addition to of course the. The lover. His. His ex girlfriend, I guess I should say her attorneys calling 91 1. So you saw least that support continue today in court seeing him. And there are pictures everywhere you go online. Sharon Moore and his wife holding hands solid together. Walking into court today to this hearing where there was this big plea deal announced.
TJ Holmes
The. Hey, that's between them. That. Who is to say? Who is to know? We just don't. Well, Robe, that is a anim. A striking image. I would say. Nobody has any idea what's going on in that home. What? No idea. But Robes said something and it's. Folks could be cynical and say this is a part of, I guess public imaging and this might help him get another job down the road. All kinds of stuff. You can. Fine, knock yourself out. But it says something. She didn't have to do that.
Amy Rock
It certainly does. And I actually was curious from you because you know way more about this kind of thing than I do. And you've often said, because we look and see what football players and professional athletes are accused of, charged with and somehow yet they're still beloved, applauded and given multi million dollar contracts. Do you think he can survive this? Do you think he can go on to coach? And he will. He will be able to redeem himself given what sports is.
TJ Holmes
He needs some space. He needs some time. But somebody will give him a chance. And. And he should get a chance. You all. He should get a chance. Everybody should. You are not the worst mistake you've ever made.
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TJ Holmes
He's admitting to a particular mistake. Fine. Fine. And so if you actually believe a guy who is talented enough to earn this job and be successful at it, a guy who's able to do that. If you're telling me you sir, who have screwed up in your life and your personal life, you should no longer be allowed to make a living or contribute to that sport because of that thing. Yes, a university can make that decision. But us just as a blanket. No, you're not allowed. It's just. He's just not the worst mistake he's ever made. Robes. And to each his or her own. I'm okay if somebody doesn't want to hire him. I just look at that. This is not a guy who's accused of a heinous crime against another human being. Something violent and even. Something criminal.
Amy Rock
Yeah. And even the violence he was initially charged with was actually, if you look at the context of it, was towards himself, not towards anyone else. And his lawyer said today from the beginning, we maintain this felony stalking charge, the entry without permission charge, all of the charges against him. Her client, she said, were not supported by the facts. They were not supported by the law. And so she said the dismissal of those charges validates all the concerns we raised about the investigation from the very beginning. And so, look, this paves the way for him to. To actually have a second chance.
TJ Holmes
Yes. Yes, it does. And it'll take time. He'll have to rebuild and rebuild trust and all those things. And I understand that. Rose, this is a. This is a hell of a story, right, that goes from a guy where the first report was, oh, my God, he lost this job. Oh, my God, he went and threatened this woman. Oh, my God, he was actually threatening himself. And now here we are to it kind of nothing. It ends up being a big fat.
Amy Rock
He texted her things he shouldn't have.
TJ Holmes
Okay? He did. Oh, my goodness. He is wrong, yes, in all of this, if we haven't made that clear. Yes, he has made clear. He is wrong in all of this. But, Rose, where do we leave space for healing? Where do we leave space for forgiveness? Where do we leave space for allowing those people back into some trusted position that's to each his or her own, and that's to each universities his or her own.
Amy Rock
Correct.
TJ Holmes
And that's okay. But roses is. Man, these are. These are fascinating stories. These are fascinating human dramas that play out in front of us. What do we do with Sharon Moore? What do we do with him? Would you let him. If University of Georgia announced they wanted to hire him, what would you say? What would you think? Would you call the university behind the scenes and say, hey, guys, I'm not okay with that?
Amy Rock
I would not.
TJ Holmes
No. No. I mean, like, what. What would people feel?
Amy Rock
Obviously. No.
TJ Holmes
And even if you got pissed when he got hired, if he goes 10 and 2 and get you in the SEC championship game, I bet all that shit goes away. That's just where we are.
Amy Rock
There are moments in which people fail as humans in moments of weakness and moments of temptation. I don't know any of the details about any of this, but it doesn't take away from someone's talent. And look, I do believe that sometimes when people have gone through this sort of public humiliation, this sort of public shaming, man, I would trust them almost more than anyone who hasn't, because they know what it's like to be down and they've learned the price that they had to pay for the mistakes they made. And I actually would feel like those are the kind of folks I wouldn't mind having around me because they get it in a way other people haven't, maybe, who haven't been caught. You know, I. I just like. We don't. You don't know. All of us are. We don't think we live in glass houses, but we do. Just imagine if you're worst. The worst thing you did that no one knows about suddenly was exposed to the world. I mean, just think about it in those terms. I think everybody has done something they're not proud of, and I'm not comparing that to what Sharon Moore did or anyone else. But I just think sometimes we need a little perspective. And today did pave the way for a second chance for him. And I also just think it's important we wanted to put this episode on today because this news came out late on a Friday, and news that comes out late on a Friday never makes the same kind of headlines that it does when it's the middle of the week and he's accused of barging into this. This blonde, you know, his girlfriend, his ex girlfriend, his assistant, this sexy, salacious story with a knife up to his neck and threatening. Oh, that made all sorts of headlines. How many headlines will this make his. I don't want to say his exoneration, but certainly a headline that is favorable to him and certainly tamps down some of the initial sensationalism of the original story. This won't be as big of a story, but hopefully this is the story that gives him a chance to rebuild his life. And I say that for him, for his wife, for his daughters, for any future football team that may benefit from his leadership.
TJ Holmes
He's wrong, we hear. And that can't not. There's no other way to say this. We are here because of what Coach Sharon Moore did. He hurt his family. He hurt that university. He hurt that community. He hurt all of those players. He went into living rooms and looked parents in the eye and said, send your child. Send your son to me. I got him. He hurt a lot of people. Okay, okay. That we know it. And he should be punished. There's no argument about that role.
Amy Rock
He has been.
TJ Holmes
We have to figure out what we do with those folks. How do we incorporate them back into society? Everybody is guilty of something. It's just we know about some of them and we don't know about others. He is not any different from most folks walking up and down the street just we know about his ish and we don't know about some others. I'm fascinated by these stories robes. You know that I am. You know that I am.
Amy Rock
Oh I think we all should be because they're human stories.
TJ Holmes
Human story. I'm fascinated by these humans stories, but folks want to hop on like Rope said. Give you this update on a Friday. These stories get buried right on a Friday.
Amy Rock
They do, they do.
TJ Holmes
But worth talking about. We appreciate you as always spending some time with us. I'm TJ Holmes. On behalf of my dear Amy Rock, we will talk to y' all soon. Success starts with your drive, and American Public University is here to fuel it.
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This episode dissects the legal and personal fallout of University of Michigan football coach Sherrone Moore’s explosive scandal, which involved allegations of an affair, harassment, and a highly publicized emotional breakdown. Amy and TJ walk through the sequence of events—from Moore’s meteoric career rise and sudden dismissal to the court's surprising plea deal. The conversation is rich with reflections on justice, public opinion, second chances, and the difference between sensational headlines and the quieter reality of how cases resolve.
“This wasn’t a fall from grace. This was a dump from grace.”
— TJ Holmes [07:49]
“He was able to have all of those charges dismissed. So the three most serious charges were all dismissed as a part of this plea deal. That’s a big deal.”
— Amy Robach [12:19]
“It doesn’t take away from someone’s talent. And look, I do believe that sometimes when people have gone through this sort of public humiliation, this sort of public shaming…I would trust them almost more than anyone who hasn’t, because they know what it’s like to be down and they’ve learned the price they had to pay for the mistakes they made.”
— Amy Robach [23:56]
“You are not the worst mistake you’ve ever made.”
— TJ Holmes [20:49]
“We know about his ish and we don’t know about some others. He is not any different from most folks walking up and down the street… I’m fascinated by these human stories.”
— TJ Holmes [26:27]
“News that comes out late on a Friday never makes the same kind of headlines… This won’t be as big of a story.”
— Amy Robach [25:55]
Amy and TJ guide listeners through a nuanced, empathetic conversation marked by professional insight, moral questioning, and genuine curiosity. They strike a balance between condemning Moore’s actions and advocating for the possibility of growth and redemption, reminding listeners that scandal headlines rarely capture the complexities of human fallibility or the realities of the justice system.
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