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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
New Guthrie Note: I'll Tell You Who The Kidnapper Is But Pay Me First
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Hey there Everybody, it is Thursday, February 12, and we have a new note, new leads and new searches in the case of Nancy Guthrie as so many signs and so much momentum seems to be building towards possibly the break in this case. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Ropes. They talk about they got 4,000 tips in a 24 hour period. We have to go back and think this has to be. Of course, it is connected to what was the biggest break was seeing those surveillance videos that they put out a couple days ago.
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A
That's right. And the fact that they were able to not just get images, but have that video so you can see this masked person. There were a lot of clues from his eyes to what he was wearing, the gun he was carrying, the backpack he had on his back. The hope is, yes, somewhere in those 4,000 tips that came in in a 24 hour period of time that one of those tips will lead them to Nancy Guthrie. But you have to go through every single one and every one of them.
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B
Every single one. And one of those is what led to a person being detained by this week. And it's not out of the realm of possibility. We're going to see more detainments. We're going to get into all of this in just a moment. But robes, I guess I have to start with the more. Again, there have been twists and turns and bizarre happenings, more so than huge revelations and moving the case forward. But we got another note, but this one apparently is not from a kidnapper demanding money. And it also wasn't sent to the family and it wasn't sent the police.
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A
It was sent to TMZ once again. Now, according to tmz, this note basically said they couldn't get in touch with. They tried and failed to get in touch with Savannah or Cameron for whatever reason. They're claiming they weren't able to. But yes, this note wants one bitcoin, which they said the bitcoin address provided is legit, but that's about $66,000 now. And TMZ pointed this out because the. The money, the demand is to say, we know who the kidnapper is. We can give you or put you in the right direction and hand over the suspect.
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B
And as soon as we saw what this was about, I. Look, this is disgusting. I can help you solve the crime, but you got to pay me first. That. It doesn't sound legit.
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A
No, it doesn't. And TMZ pointed out that there's a $50,000 reward right now from the FBI to. To anyone who gives or hands over the information that leads to an arrest or leads to finding Nancy Guthrie. So if they're demanding $66,000, basically, why not just go ahead and call in to the FBI and get your $50,000? It doesn't make sense.
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B
This does not make sense. But this is, I guess, robes. And they have to look at it and take it seriously until otherwise. But it sure seems and sounds suspicious. And Robes, if somebody is out there. Are you serious? Are you really inserting yourself into this national story by saying, I can solve this crime for you, but you have to pay me first? That's.
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A
It's gross. It's disgusting. People trying to capitalize financially or just say they were a part of the story, inserting themselves, it's distracting. It takes away resources. And it's not. It's just. It's just ugly. And honestly, it's criminal to be doing this. So it's all of the above. But mostly it's just sad that people would do this for whatever personal gain they think they're getting out of it.
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B
I guess we shouldn't be surprised, but I always am rubes in these moments. So even if this person, I think is worse, if they do have legitimate information, that means you can. You can get this family out of the pain they're in. But first, I want. I think that's worse than if it's a scammer.
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A
That's true. That's true. If they're legit and they do have information, please let's not hold the information hostage. Let's not use this as a form of extortion. That's just awful.
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B
That's a. That you put it that way. They are holding the family hostage.
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A
Yes.
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B
Over the mother being held hostage. Yep, they are. Come on, y'. All. This. So we. They have to take it seriously. But just. There's no feeling about this. That seems like, oh, this is the one, or they should follow this. It doesn't feel like that. At least that. The text of the note, according to tmz, said, quote, if they want the name of the individual involved, then I want one bitcoin to the following wallet. Time is more than relevant.
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A
Ew. That is terrible.
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B
Oh, come on, Robes. The note. Tmz, this is the. What? Third one? I think they have gotten this bitcoin address that's attached to this one they say is not the same bitcoin address that's been attached to previous notes. So this is coming from somewhere else. And somebody else. Or Robes, I guess the FBI is probably Looking into the possibility that all these notes are coming from the same person and using different techniques to try to get money. But if you were asking for millions in the other note and all of a sudden you just want 66,000 in the. It doesn't make any sense.
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A
It doesn't make any sense. And again, it is distracting. Now they have to take away valuable resources that they need to be tracking down, real tips or perhaps the tip that they need to uncover. And instead they got to deal with this fool. And it's annoying.
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B
All right, so 4,000 tips, we said in 24 hours. They have to keep going through every single one of them. But, Robes, we are probably going to see increased activity or new or different activity over the next several days, including some searches that are going on now because they're getting these tips and they're following up on all of them. And sure enough, I thought this was interesting at least, but they're focusing now on every pathway and roadway that can leave her house and go anywhere is what they're doing now.
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A
Right. Because she had to be taken somewhere. She had to be transported somewhere. And that makes a lot of sense. There aren't a lot of cameras. There aren't. This is a rural area, and so you don't have the surveillance that you would have in a larger city. Unfortunately for the police trying to figure out how she was was taken somewhere in a vehicle from her home, they know the time, they know the day, but they cannot figure out where she was taken.
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B
That is something Ro. They almost know to the minute.
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A
Yes. When she left that house, her pacemaker stopped.
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B
Yes. And that happens when you get a certain distance from your phone. They almost have the exact time and can't figure out what direction. Robes, I didn't know this. I read earlier. Well, there's great distance between the homes out there. Right. So you can't look out the window and see your neighbor's house kind of a thing. But there's also limited light that was intentional. They designed and zoned the area because they didn't want too much light pollution.
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A
Wow. And that's great and beautiful when you're staring up at the gorgeous Arizona sky. But it's not helpful to police when they're looking for vehicles or looking for license plates or looking for anything that would identify where she could be.
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B
So these searches are going on. We should see more activity because of all these tips they're following up. But Robes, one of those tips and the reason at least, the gentleman who said he was detained here recently, he was detained because of a tip, and they went and found him. And sure, he's not still detained, but the sheriff is telling local affiliates out there, yeah, we're probably going to end up detaining more people.
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Yes, that is what he said. And look, he was wondering if it was because he has a mustache. And. And his eyes. They said that. That you can see when you zoom into these images that the person wearing the ski mask, the masked man who came to Nancy Guthrie's home on the night she went missing, you can tell he has a mustache. And you. He has large eyes. When I looked at Carlos, who was detained, you can see where he has both of those features that. That might have also contributed to them detaining him.
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Robes. And this AI technology, all these things they can do now. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if, sweetheart, surely they've used every bit of technology that every company has available out there to unmask this individual. We have seen stuff online on AI. I mean, you got lawsuits and folks looking at some kind of possible ways to regulate this, but there's technology that can essentially undress people.
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Wow.
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You know, they're using every bit of technology on this. I wonder if they have some kind of a sketch they'll put out. I wonder if they'll have some kind of idea of an image. Robes. Because the technology is crazy scary these days, but in a situation like this, it could be wildly helpful.
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Yeah, that's such a good point. And I'm wondering, even by looking at these images now, can they figure out how tall he is? Can they figure out, you know, certain things? I'm sure they'll be able to do that. So you can actually get a description beyond a masked man. But when you start really looking. And they said, look, they are looking at the type of backpack, the type of gloves, the type of clothing. They actually know the backpack came from Walmart. Like, they have gotten that specific because they're trying to go back and figure out. It looks like a brand new backpack. But he came prepared to do something, and now they're trying to, like you said, undress him piece by piece, whatever he had on him to try and connect a person to those items.
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This will be the break. I mean, just ropes. Everybody is looking for this guy and somebody to your. They said. And you. It was the first thing you said, look, tj if you were out there dressed like that, I would know that was you.
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I would know. Especially seeing the movement. I know your movements like that is a familiar thing. Someone's gate how someone carries themselves and he certainly was on camera long enough where you could see that. Now the other headline, and we don't know if it will amount to anything, is this glove that was found, what was it a mile or so from Nancy Guthrie's house, A black glove. No clue. If it's the glove that was used by the kidnapper, certainly he had gloves on. Why one glove would be on the side of the road, could be a number of reasons, could be from a lot of different people. But if it so happens to be the glove, right now, according to authorities, they are doing what they would do with a potential piece of evidence. They are trying to see if any DNA, if there's anything in that glove that links them to a person.
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I mean, we, we can't help it in this country. But I, I saw that headline. I'm like, did we really just find another black glove?
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A
Yes.
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B
Laying around in some high profile case or our minds immediately go to a certain place, but who knows what's going to come out of this one?
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As long as there isn't a white Bronco involved, I'm okay.
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If there's a vehicle of any kind, we take it.
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Yes.
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Anything going on here? All right, but stay with us here, folks. Another significant happening and again, it's not the most relevant thing, but it's to be expected. I suppose. What's happening over at the Today show right now, it's pretty incredible how the audience, at least right now, is embracing that show and also desperate for information. Stay here.
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All right. We continue here on Amy and TJ on this Thursday, now, February 12th. Just giving you the latest on the search for Nancy Guthrie. A lot of headlines, not the one that so many people are waiting for, certainly the family as well, but a lot of movement in this case. Do want to mention ropes? There is no right now press conference. There's nothing planned. We haven't had a formal one in days. And he hasn't taken questions. He's kind of been updating and they put some stuff out on social media, but they're not talking to the press right now.
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No. And look, I think it was a welcome relief because those press conferences were basically him just saying the little tiny bit of actual confirmable information they had. It wasn't much and it certainly had. Hasn't gotten any greater. And truthfully, following all these leads, they don't want to tip their hand. They don't want to let us know what they know, what they have. This is all going to be important, not only to finding Nancy Guthrie and finding the person who took her, but also if that does happen, being able to convict that person, they keep things close to the vest. And so, yes, those press conferences, us pesky reporters ask a lot of annoying questions. And he doesn't want to slip up and. And show his hand or give away.
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Too much information or be criticized as much as he has been for some of his performance. Look at the pressure on him. The FBI, all investigators with all the eyes on this case. You can't imagine the other thing. Look, the today's show we spoke about. Let's see here. Robes hold a left. Savannah al were left. They, they've been there longer, I believe, as hosts of that show than Craig has been. What I'm getting at here is Savannah Guthrie is the centerpiece of that show, of course. Okay. She is the centerpiece of that show. Your main host is gone off the show. You would think, okay, that's gonna hurt viewership. This is different, obviously, because that show is the focus essentially of what is the biggest, most captivating crime story. Many of us have seen in our lives happening right now. So viewers have been going to that show. Rose, we knew they were going to probably see an increase in viewership. It's right now obvious people are flooding to that show.
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Yes. You and I even talked about this knowing that NBC and look, obviously the number one most important thing to Savannah, to anyone at the Today show and certainly to anyone covering it is that Nancy Guthrie is found. But we both said we were pretty sure that the Today show was going to get a huge spike in ratings because people want to see what happens and also just show their support. I think see how the other anchors who know and love Savannah feel about it. It just, it feels like you're, you're watching family in that sense and you're all on the same page because you're all rooting for this 84 year old woman to be found. You're rallying around the show and my God, the ratings have absolutely shown that to be true.
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Yeah, They've got a 23% increase in viewership year over year. That was in the most completed, the last details we got for the most completed viewership week. But 23% is unheard of in this day and time of any type of viewership. It's unheard of in this day and time of morning show viewership. It just doesn't happen anymore. And yes, it's happening now. It's to be expected. It there, there is no one over at NBC. I'm sure salivating and looking is going, oh, this is awesome. We got great. No, not at all. But the viewers are certainly interested in this show. Excuse me, this story and robes. They're going to the place that is the centerpiece of it. And it's a delicate balance. How do you as the Today show cover that story as it's just a news story? Because you're supposed to. It's more than that to them, but they have to assign someone and do that story independently and not appear as if they are trying to take advantage of what's happening.
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It's, it is a, that's a good way to put a delicate balance. But yes, it's not lost on them. I'm sure that they gained 624,000 viewers last week who all tuned in to see the latest on what's going on with Savannah and certainly how the hosts are handling it. And it is tough. Look, you don't want to look like you're capitalizing on someone's page pain. You don't want to look like you're profiting off of that pain in any way. And I think they have done. We haven't watched a lot of television, but we know all of those folks and they have done a beautiful job in. In finding that balance of covering the story, but also making sure. Look, some of these headlines are salacious and some of the sources say stuff just isn't true and only for headlines and clickbait. Obviously, NBC News is going to be uber respectful about making sure any information they put out is helpful and true.
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Robes, almost every time before we started recording, you say, where is this lady? Yeah, like we just. You can't believe we're doing another update. Or we have. You just can't believe. And here we are. Robe. Saturday is a couple days away. That is two full weeks since this woman was seen by anyone.
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Yeah, we just sat down to record this and we said, I cannot believe we still don't know anything. And the things that we thought we would find out or that would unravel have not proven to be true. And now it's, you know, it's so unusual, and we still don't know who this person is, how they may or may not be connected at all to the family in any way, shape or form. But this type of thing is so rare. Strangers do not come up to your porch in the middle of a random night and abduct an elderly person. It just doesn't happen. And that's why it's so confusing and it's so captivating because what in the actual hell is going on?
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Yeah, we got confirmation she was kidnapped. Authorities have not. Have not confirmed that they have heard from a credible kidnapper.
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It makes no sense, folks.
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We'll keep an eye on this one. Again, no press briefings scheduled for today or anytime. Not a single one scheduled in this case. We'll keep an eye on it. You can keep an eye on our feed. As always, top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you see our show page, there's a little button that says, follow, click that you can make sure all of our updates come right to you. For now, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm TJ Holmes. On behalf of my dear Amy Robach, we'll talk to you very soon.
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