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TJ Robes
Hey there folks. It is Tuesday, February 3, and developments overnight in the search for Today show host Savannah Guthrie's missing mother. The sheriff now says he believes she was abducted and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This was kind of a fast moving, fast developing story yesterday and late last night the sheriff finally come out. Look, it's he was using the words like crime scene, grave concern, abduction is now coming out of his mouth.
Amy
Yeah. And just you and I both looked at each other and thought, what the hell. This woman is dropped off, this 84 year old woman by her family just before 10pm on Saturday night and she is abducted in the overnight hours in her own home and is nowhere to be found. And whatever was left behind was obvious enough for police to immediately, pretty much immediately call her home. A crime scene that is beyond bizarre and puzzling and deeply concerning.
TJ Robes
Let's tell you where we are right now in this investigation. Again, fast moving story. You just mentioned ropes. This was Saturday night, the last time anybody saw her and she didn't show up for church on Sunday. And that's when calls of concern started coming in and police were called about a missing person. Now missing person immediately and pretty quickly, like you said, Robes went from missing person to a crime. Now they're not just out there with volunteers and search dogs and drones walking through fields randomly like they were. This was not a dementia situation. He has from this first the outset. He wants everybody to understand this woman is sharp as she can be. He keeps using the quote, sharp, sharp as attack, keeps using that once she did not wander off. This is not a situation. And Robes, they're saying the family is telling us just how limited she is in mobility. She, it's virtually impossible for her to just have walked out on her own.
Amy
Yes. So that has been completely ruled out. And yes, the sheriff said, quote, I believe she was abducted. She didn't walk from there. She didn't go willingly. And we heard the sheriff add earlier that she couldn't walk 50 yards so she couldn't have left her home on her own. She couldn't have gotten far had she even tried. So that, and look, it helps in the investigation to know you can rule something completely out. And they have ruled that she left on her own volition, completely out this.
TJ Robes
So you start piecing and we don't know what happened. But you the sort swear it just frankly it doesn't happen. We don't have, generally speaking, folks that go in and abduct elderly folks, senior citizens who have medical issues that you're going to have to deal with, who can't move and you're going to have to deal with move. You just don't see it. The question has to be asked, is this some connection to Savannah Guthrie? They don't seem to have that answer yet.
Amy
Yes, and it has been asked repeatedly. You and I were even going over what could possibly be behind her abduction. Either you're thinking the motivation would be money or revenge or some sort of political statement or some sort of deranged person who's obsessed with Savannah. I mean there really are a couple, but none of them really actually fit. It's hard to get our heads around with the limited information we have. And police obviously keep details close to the vest. They have been asked specifically was there blood at the crime scene that you've described her home, was there broken furniture? What was there? What was left behind that led you all so quickly to determine that a crime has happened and that she has been abducted. They didn't give those details. We understand that's pretty typical in a lot of police investigations. They don't want to show their hand because they're always thinking ahead to prosecuting whoever is responsible for taking Savannah's mom.
TJ Robes
But. But bro, it too. It just doesn't make sense. A crime like this on its own just doesn't happen. But then for it to happen to one of the most prominent journalists we have in the country. It's just the chances of them not being connected seems so far fetched. But we just don't know. It just seems impossible that this is a coincidence that these folks are connected robes a crime like this, who's taking 80 elderly people? Why would you kidnap an elderly person you spoke of as well the possibility maybe someone was actually targeting her. Not knowing who her mom was, but just thought she had some money. Thought they find a way. We've seen cases where folks are kidnapped and taken directly to ATMs to start taking money out. Geez.
Amy
It's interesting though. Yes. Because you'd think when I was just imagining that if you take someone to an atm, if you take someone anywhere in your vehicle and you are getting. You're trying to get something from them, you would think money. There has to be some motivation behind this. Abduction. There are cameras everywhere. And that's why we're hearing from police asking neighbors and everyone, anyone to show and look at their ring cameras to go check their surveillance footage to see if they may have inadvertently picked up something that could put police on the trail of where Nancy Guthrie may be. But right now, it seems like they don't have anything.
TJ Robes
Begging, pleading with the public, go through all of your information, go through your phone, go through your cameras, asking people to take. If you see something while you're out there and you think it might be her, snap a photo for us. So he's pleading in such a way that it seems like they don't have much. And we saw this with what was Brown University, that shooting. They immediately, they had. They put out every surveillance video they were throwing, like, please help us. And it eventually worked.
Amy
It worked. It worked. Look, we now live in a time where pretty much everyone, or at least every other house has some sort of camera placed on their home for security reasons. And this is just a matter of folks going through their footage because obviously for her to have left that home. Home. Look, they said there were. There was surveillance, there were cameras at Nancy Guthrie's home. And we've seen the outside of it on the news, and it looks like a lovely home, a beautiful home in the foothills of Tucson. So clearly they're going through that. They'll have to be able to determine how she left her home. If those cameras were working and rolling and recording, they'll see how she left her home, Whether it was on foot with someone in a vehicle. They have to have some indication. But clearly then they need cameras in the community to follow. However, Nancy Guthrie left her home and with whomever she was with at the.
TJ Robes
Time, but she did not walk. They said they're sure. They said she was incapable of walking 50 yards. She just had physical ailments. She's 84, but she can't walk that far. Why kidnap somebody that you're gonna have to literally carry? This is a 5 foot 5, 150 pound woman by their description. Ropes. That doesn't make sense until you're. If there's cameras, you're gonna see if there's another person there, you're gonna see if there's a vehicle there. They didn't ask us to be on the lookout for this person. This many people, this type of vehicle, Nothing.
Amy
Nothing. And the other thing that is interesting, obviously time is not on anyone's side. When there's an abduction involved, it doesn't matter who you are, but especially for Nancy Guthrie because she has medication that she needs to take daily. And, and the sheriff was very quick to point out if we do not get this medication to her within 24 hours, it could be fatal. He said that yesterday we are looking at 24 hours. So time is ticking and this is deeply concerning. He also said, and I don't know, I want to make sure I get his words right, but we heard it, we looked at each other. He said basically if you abduct someone and you take them away from their medication that they need life saving medication, you could be charged with homicide. He was putting out a warning basically to whoever took Nancy Guthrie. If she dies on your watch because she didn't have access to this medication that she needs, you will be charged with homicide or you will be looking at homicide charges.
TJ Robes
I thought that was another sign of desperation as well, just how little they have meaning. He's trying to get a message to who might have her to plead with them. Like hey, we can't plead with your humanity. Can we plead to your common sense? You're going to make this worse on yourself. As far as a possible prison sentence. Yeah, that was the message he's putting out. So I'm not sure how much they have. This is it. This is a bizarre, a bizarre case, but it is a case that made me think of another almost immediately, another high profile case where a high profile person had their parent taken. Somebody disappeared and ended up dead. Stay here, we'll explain why my mind went right back to 1993. Also we will give you the latest. We did hear messages from NBC News message from the Guthrie family yesterday as well as Savannah. But then we got an updated message from Savannah Guthrie last night. Stay here, we'll share that with you.
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TJ Robes
All right. We continue here on this Tuesday we morning. Welcome back here to Amy and TJ Tuesday morning. Robes. We are beyond 48 hours now since the last time Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy Guthrie was seen, known to be seen on Saturday night. 48 hours, I said. But Robes, they said 24 hours. She has to have this daily medication or it's life threatening.
Amy
Yes, she has a heart condition. She's 84 years old. She has mobility issues, nothing cognitive. She is sharp as attack, as we pointed out we've heard multiple times from the sheriff. But she does have physical limitations at 84 and she needs her medicine. And this is deeply concerning for her family, who I cannot, I keep putting myself in Savannah's shoes and imagining what this family must be going through to not know where their mom is, what she is going through and how she may be feeling, how she is doing right now.
TJ Robes
And they know obviously more than we do what their concerns are. They know what that house looked like. They know what was in there. They know what to be concerned about and they know how much hope they should can have right now for her safe return. But we did hear from the family yesterday. I guess some basic stuff. Thank you for your thoughts and your prayers kind of a thing. And they were absolutely blasting out the number. If you see anything, send the information to this phone number to the police. But then we heard from Savannah again yesterday. This was a fairly extended or a longer Instagram post and I think the picture just said prayer or pray or something. Yeah, simple image.
Amy
And look, Savannah is of deep faith and she's often and publicly credited her mother for that faith, thanking her for bringing Jesus and God into her life. And so this post was in that same vein. This is what Savannah put out late yesterday on Instagram. This is the first I think we officially heard from her on her social media. She said, we believe in prayer. We believe in voices raised in unison, in love, in hope. We believe in goodness. We believe in humanity above all we believe in him. Thank you for lifting your prayers with ours for our beloved mom, our dearest Nancy, a woman of deep conviction, a good and faithful servant. Raise your prayers with us and believe with us that she will be lifted by them in this very moment. We need you. He will keep in perfect peace those who hearts, those whose hearts are steadfast, trusting in the Lord. It's a verse of Isaiah for all time, for all of us. Bring her home. That's what a lot of the headlines have said after Savannah's posed. Bring her home. So they still have hope, they still have faith.
TJ Robes
And.
Amy
And that in turn should give us some as well. Because it did seem fairly bleak. When you're hearing from police that they have 24 hours, they are begging for the public's help. The house is a crime scene. What they saw left behind was deeply concerning. All of that makes you feel like, oh my God, there's no hope.
TJ Robes
But yeah, it was a nice message to see from Savannah. And the police are doing their job and they, they have to have a certain tone, I suppose. And this sheriff has been emotional at times, but worth grave concern. Vulnerable adult, 24 hours to get the medication could be fatal. Abducted crime scene phone left behind. All of that stuff adds up. And we've covered enough crime. And everybody out there at this point has watched enough true crime. You piece all that stuff together and it doesn't paint a good picture.
Amy
No, and I was you, you pointed that out. We've covered enough crime. Savannah has covered so many stories like this over her 30 year career. She knows this process as a journalist. She knows this process covering these types of crimes. To now be at the center of it just has to be such a humbling experience because she does know probably more than most about the timeline and what is involved and what's at stake.
TJ Robes
And I put together, we talked about this yesterday to where and we've talked about here, Robes. Just the. The chances of someone randomly wanting to kidnap an 84 year old woman in the middle of night from her home on a Saturday night are just low. The chances of somebody wanting to do that and it just happens to be Savannah Guthrie's mom are even lower. So you try to figure out this has to be a targeted event. It has to be targeted because of Savannah Guthrie and robes. I immediately went to 1993 and Michael Jordan dad like no one and maybe even to this day would think that the death of his dad had nothing to do with him. But that crime was a random one. His dad had pulled over to the side of the road. Couple dudes just wanted to rob him, not knowing is Michael Jordan's dad or anything. And killed him, murdered him. They were convicted, life in jail. But robes, that was a totally. The most famous important basketball player ever. Dad is missing for a little while and ends up dead. And you just can't believe that that's a coincidence. But it turned out to be. It turned out to be. It had nothing to do with Michael Jordan. So I thought about that immediately. It's still. The chances of it are so, so low. But I guess it's possible.
Amy
You were talking about this yesterday as we were just getting really into this story and what it could lead to and what could possibly happen. And you brought this up and you mentioned just obviously this crazy story that turned out to be coincidental, that everyone had to think was related in some way or had to be because of Michael Jordan. But the impact of losing a parent, especially in such a violent way. This was career ending for Michael Jordan.
TJ Robes
This is. I mean, people know about his story of him. He retired to go play baseball and then he came back, right? He won three championships, retired, came back, won three more championships in basketball. But he was clear as day about it, the passing of his dad. Think about every image you've seen of Michael Jordan clutching a championship trophy. There was a dark skinned bald head man right next to him. That's his dad. His dad was attached to him his entire career. And he says, dad never missed a game. And then all of a sudden his dad is gone, not coming to basketball games and he retired from basketball because of it. Savannah, man, I hope this works out. Man, I hope this is a glorious story and a glorious homecoming and something bizarre can be explained and this woman is gonna be okay and live out her days. But damn, I just, I dread what. Look, this is not the biggest thing in the world. It's minor. But as soon as this happened, there are people at NBC that started scrambling to change Olympics coverage, right? This is this. Who knows what this will mean down the road. That's not the most important thing now. But robes, you talk about how disruptive Michael Jordan retired, right? When something like this happened to a family member, just you just. You want it to work out, but people's minds, you can't help but. And yes, the Olympics coverage, she's not.
Amy
Going well, she's supposed to be. I mean, she has been for years now. But she is one of the hosts of the opening ceremonies. Opening ceremonies are in Milan on Friday, as in three days from now. And we know how it goes covering Olympics. She probably was scheduled to leave yesterday or today. At the very least to head to Milan to get prepared. This is a huge, huge role you take on, knowing every single fact about nearly every country. As those Olympians walk into the arena, you have to be able to see, speak on your feet about just about everyone. So the amount of preparation and time, I'm, I know that she's already put in to do this very important job and this very important work is now out the door and obviously doesn't even matter at this point. It's so humbling when you realize and it, it takes sometimes these moments where we all have to take a, we have to take a look at our lives and say, what are we focused on? Who are we focused on? You think the most important thing you have to worry about is getting this, this job in order and going to the Olympics and covering and doing this thing you love and this big, big job you've got. And now all of a sudden, boom. Perspective just hits you like a Mack truck. And yes, I hope it all works out. My God, our hearts go out to Savannah and her family. This is just horrific.
TJ Robes
Folks, we'll keep a close eye on this one. Expecting some updates. The sheriff out there has been good about at least coming out and talking to the press, so we'll keep an eye on that one today. Plenty of stuff to update you about coming in our feed today. As always, top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you see our show page. That little button says follow hit that. You can get our updates coming directly to you. And there have been a plenty these days. But as always, we appreciate you spending some time with us. We will be talking to you soon.
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Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
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Date: February 3, 2026
This urgent episode focuses on the shocking disappearance and suspected abduction of Savannah Guthrie’s mother, Nancy Guthrie. Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes break down the latest developments, theories, and emotional reactions as the investigation shifts dramatically from a missing person to a crime scene involving the high-profile journalist’s family. The episode explores the puzzling circumstances, the police’s approach, family responses, and what this case reflects about crime and public figures.
"We believe in prayer. We believe in voices raised in unison, in love, in hope. ... Bring her home." (Savannah Guthrie, as quoted at [17:04])
Police certainty:
“She didn’t walk from there. She didn’t go willingly … she couldn't walk 50 yards so she couldn't have left her home on her own.”
— Amy ([04:49])
Concern about abductor’s intentions:
“You just don't see it … the question has to be asked, is this some connection to Savannah Guthrie?”
— T.J. ([05:21])
Emotional plea and consequence:
“If we do not get this medication to her within 24 hours, it could be fatal … If she dies on your watch because she didn't have access to this medication that she needs, you will be charged with homicide.”
— Amy recalling sheriff’s statement ([09:55])
Hope amid bleakness:
"We believe in prayer. We believe in voices raised in unison, in love, in hope. We believe in goodness. We believe in humanity above all we believe in him. Thank you for lifting your prayers with ours for our beloved mom... Bring her home."
— Savannah Guthrie, Instagram post ([17:04])
Fame and random violence:
“The chances of someone randomly wanting to kidnap an 84 year old woman in the middle of night from her home on a Saturday night are just low. The chances of somebody wanting to do that and it just happens to be Savannah Guthrie's mom are even lower. So you try to figure out this has to be a targeted event... But I guess it's possible.”
— T.J. ([19:30]–[20:49])
Disruption to life and perspective:
“Perspective just hits you like a Mack truck. ... you think the most important thing you have to worry about is getting this job in order... And now all of a sudden, boom. Perspective just hits you like a Mack truck.”
— Amy ([22:38]–[24:02])
The disappearance of Nancy Guthrie is not only a rapidly developing news story but also a deeply personal crisis for one of America’s most visible journalists. Amy and T.J. methodically examine facts, scrutinize motives, showcase law enforcement efforts, and reflect on broader implications for crime and celebrity in society. The episode strikes a balance between hard factual reporting and empathetic commentary, offering listeners both detailed updates and a profound glimpse into the emotional toll on the Guthrie family and wider community.