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hey there folks. It is Thursday, May 21 and a breaking story this afternoon. We thought we'd be hopping on to tell you about the last words of a man on death row. Instead we found out he is going to live another day. Or maybe is it just another few hours with that welcome to this episode of Amy and tj. We have been following what was an extraordinary couple of days in the United States. Three executions scheduled over two days. One was yesterday in Arizona robes. Another one was supposed to be this morning in Tennessee. It has not gone through and it's not because you any Court intervened.
Amy Robach
This is not what we expected to happen. In fact, Tony Carruthers execution was scheduled for 10am local time. That's near Memphis, Tennessee. So Central time.
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And it was delayed while folks waited to hear what the Supreme Court was going to do. They were waiting to see if the Supreme Court would make a decision on an emergency state day that was requested by the aclu. The high court said, nope, we deny it, so the execution can go on as planned. So now we think, okay, the execution is going to take place. But hold up. There were some. And a major complication that ensued as they were allowed to proceed. Suddenly, they couldn't find a vein. Literally. They spent an hour and a half, according to folks who were there behind the scenes, an hour and a half looking for a vein. They had a main vein, but they needed a backup vein. They couldn't get a backup vein. And because they couldn't do that, they actually had to halt the execution.
TJ Holmes
And so it's didn't go through. And we don't know what happens next. We're talking about a man who's been on death row for a triple homicide, and there are people who have been hooting and hollering about his innocence, saying other evidence needs to be examined, saying, yes, that will throw in Kim Kardashian's name. There has been. There are hundreds of thousands of people who signed a petition been delivered to the governor. They wanted to stop this execution. Well, after all of that debate, Robe, we thought that something might get delayed or stopped or maybe a court would intervene because a lot was happening court wise. And lo and behold, the man's gonna get to live another day because of a vein. Now, we did talk, and it's worth noting, and we need to look up and maybe I'll do it here. Robes. While we're talking, when this death warrant expires. We talked about this as a morning execution. And some states will plan it for off hours, if you will, to allow. Well, that didn't go right. Or some court intervention or we need some paperwork. The death warrant actually expires at a certain time, so they have to essentially execute somebody within that time period. Now, remember, Groves, this is just happening. So I haven't seen. You tell me if you've seen. Otherwise, if they're going to continue to attempt today or we are done for now.
Amy Robach
The local news reporter from that area said that for now, Carruthers has been allowed to return to his cell. So we just know he was returned to his cell or a cell at the prison so he's not sitting there strapped to a gurney with medical professionals trying to find a vein anymore, because that took place this morning. It is interesting. We were talk. Well, some states do this morning procedure so that they can allow for any sort of problem that they might incur any complication. Not sure what the next step is because the Tennessee Department of Corrections literally put out a press release saying that the medics were able to establish a primary vein unsuccessful in finding the required backup line. The quote is, the team continued to follow the protocol but could not find another suitable vein. The team attempted to insert a central line pursuant to the protocol, but the procedure was unsuccessful. The execution was then called off. This is horrible. Yeah. This is from the Tennessee Department of Corrections.
TJ Holmes
This is horrible for all parties involved. And I know you're not supposed to necessarily sit here and have sympathy for a triple murderer, convicted triple murderer who's about to be executed, but you got family, you got people collected there waiting for this. And he is waiting to die. And he is sitting there for an hour, hour. Plus, y' all can't find a vein to kill me. Now, Robes, that is cruel and unusual, I would argue. Uh, but the death warrant, according to all local reporting, expires at midnight. And so his attorneys have now asked for a stay based on what has happened today. That has not happened. Meaning, Robes. The death warrant expires at midnight. These folks still have another 10 hours, essentially, to kill them if they want to.
Amy Robach
I. This is. This is really fascinating. This is, again, something that I haven't seen before. And look, I'm somebody who's had to have, unfortunately, a lot of IVs in my life. And finding veins can be tough, especially if you're stressed, if you're dehydrated, you've even had an issue with that. Remember when you got taken away in that van? They were saying that your veins were depleted because you were so dehydrated. So, I don't know, are they going to try to hydrate him, give him a bunch of fluids, see if they try again, or are they just calling this thing off there? Everyone in the area is trying to get information as to whether or not it's going to be rescheduled later today? Rescheduled for a later date. But the way death warrants work, once it runs out at midnight, they have to go through a whole process of reestablishing or scheduling an execution date.
TJ Holmes
So, yeah, there. There are folks and the governor probably included in this. You don't want to have to do this again. And Go through this process again. How can we fix, how can we correct to where we don't have to sign another death warrant, that we don't extend what is already rose. Been a lot of back and forth about this case. He would. He was about to be executed, right. He's on. So the state has no intention and the courts have made clear so far they have no intention of intervening. There is no one here who can stop this at this point, unless robes. Is there a new argument now about the botched execution that can be used to stay the execution? Do they have more of a legal argument now given what just happened? Because no court was buying any legal argument he had before the execution started.
Amy Robach
Possibly as of before, basically he had issues with his veins. He had exhausted every single legal remedy that was available to him and any other death row inmate, including having the power of Kim Kardashian's voice, who made a public plea to the governor, the ACLU who made that legal last ditch effort to the Supreme Court. They said that Tennessee, this is what the ACLU said in their release. Tennessee is sitting on unidentified DNA and fingerprint evidence that does match, does not match Mr. Carruthers and if tested could exonerate him. So that was their big argument today. That was before the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court refused to hear it, so that was rejected. The governor said, I ain't stepping in. I've carefully reviewed this case. Obviously he heard the pleas from ACLU and Kim Kardashian and still decided to make a public statement this week saying, I am not going to stop this execution. So he had no other. Once the Supreme Court said no. This morning he had no other legal remedies.
TJ Holmes
So does he have one now? I don't know. But as we, as we speak, this just all went down in a matter of minutes before we started on the microphones here. But yeah, matter of minutes. But we had been waiting a matter of hours. We still have a live feed up here where they were expecting witnesses to come out and speak to the media. No one has come up there. They have been holding this live shot. We keep seeing report. No, not reporters, but camera guys go up, they have to change the batteries on some of their microphones. Has been sitting there for so long. For hours we've been waiting and waiting without getting any official word. And the only word we've gotten is very limited right now. His attorneys have at least come out and they said a few things about the vein. They have asked for a new stay of execution based on this, which has not Been granted. This means, Robes, this man is still sentenced to die. He just might need a new date. It does not matter. Unless a court steps in and says the execution is called off, Tennessee can proceed. If they don't do it by midnight, I'm not sure how quickly he can sign another death warrant and get him back on the schedule. But, Robes, no matter what, no matter how this looks and all the back and forth, he is a condemned killer. And right now, we just got to work through some veins and some paperwork. Nothing has changed for. About his case.
Amy Robach
I wonder, though. Yes, you are correct. Nothing has changed. But I wonder, given this delay, if the attorneys have any window in this period of time where. I mean, I don't know if it's ours. We don't know if it's days, weeks, months, maybe even years. That's how these things go. But in the interim, is there any way that DNA. DNA testing takes forever, though, right? It takes weeks. We've been waiting for DNA testing in the Nancy Guthrie case. It seems like. Well, certainly for months. So it's unclear how long it would take to even test this fingerprint DNA as to who it belongs to. But the big point of argument was from folks who have really examined this case. There is no physical evidence, forensic evidence linking him to these heinous murders. And these murders were as bad and as awful and as terrible as you can imagine, including being buried alive in a grave with your dead son. I mean, that's how awful these murders were that he was convicted of.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, but, Ro, this evidence we talk about being tested. I mean, we've. How many case. We've had some recently. At the end, the guys had 20 years to test some DNA, but a couple days away from his execution. Oh, yeah, that DNA. Can we get that tested? I mean, this is what you want. Look, he wasn't given more time by a court. He might have just been given more time by a higher power or whatever.
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Amy Robach
That's true.
TJ Holmes
He absolutely should be. And I know there are issues with the case having to do with attorneys having to do with paid informants convicting him, having to do with the evidence that needs to be reviewed. I get all that. But a jury of his peers convicted him, and he's had. What was the year was the crime? 2000. 2002. Which one was this?
Amy Robach
2002? No, this was 1994, babe. So he has been on death row for that long. Okay, so 32 years.
TJ Holmes
And here we are and now in this moment that this happens, you know, and folks, we are literally, we have, we are standing by and we keep refreshing, we keep looking for updates that just at this point are not coming. But it is significant, it is a big deal that the Department of Corrections in Tennessee has at least what they say called off the execution. Barobes did we see called off for today? Called off for now I think is the word his, his attorneys use. But called off until what can be resolved. Until we can get some electrolytes and some Gatorade up in them and get them hydrated and get a vein. I don't know. Is he really waiting?
Amy Robach
Yeah.
TJ Holmes
For a vein to pop out.
Amy Robach
Yeah. This is wild to me just with all of the effort that went into trying to stop this execution and his own body may have saved him or spared him. At least for now.
TJ Holmes
For now. But stay here for with us. We'll explain what exactly happened. States have different protocol when it comes to lethal injection. Some states use a three drug cocktail. Tennessee is not one of them.
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We don't care where you hear it. All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ with the word. We just got a short time ago that an execution planned today this morning in Tennessee is called off for now, not because of a court's intervention, but because they could not find a vein. Robe. There are certain or several anti death penalty organizations who have put out a num. Their statements are flying right now and they're pointing to this, a lot of them. And it's not just about guilt or innocence. For a lot of advocates or, excuse me, opponents of the death penalty, they say it is cruel and unusual that so many of these drugs are not dependable, that so many of these. There's not a consistent protocol around the country. Everybody's doing it their own way. And you have botched. They. They use that word a lot. And we've seen some in the past. Botched executions where the person suffers. Um, I guess this is botched, but robes. It doesn't really have anything to do with the drug itself. It doesn't really have a lot to do with how they were trying to do the lethal injection ropes. You mentioned me a second ago. I remember an embarrassing moment I had in early in my career where I was supposed to go give blood, right? And the cameras are there, we're doing a whole story on it. And I'm laid up, my cameraman shooting me. They, they couldn't find a vein because I was dehydrated. I went out and partied the night before. I remember this always, you're like. And I always remember that how that. Yeah, it's a deal. Pintobarbital. Do I have it right?
Amy Robach
Yes, pentobarbital.
TJ Holmes
They used a one drug cocktail there. And yes, it sounds like one drug, one needle, but that is not the protocol in Tennessee.
Amy Robach
Yeah, you have to have a backup line and that. They got one vein, they got one iv. Imagine that he's sitting there, got an IV in his arm and they're trying to find another vein for a backup line and they can't find it. They can't get it. Now this is interesting because you pointed out you were just talking about lethal injection and how a lot of anti death penalty groups and certain, certainly attorneys who are advocating for their clients have pointed to this method of execution as cruel and unusual. Because yes, it does vary. Each state does do it differently. Different protocols, different cocktails. Some far, farceutical companies even stop supplying certain drugs to states because they were against the use of their drugs to execute people. And so yes, they have the single drug, lethal injection. But the state of Tennessee had problems that actually they had a five year pause on executions because of issues with lethal injection. So they have, last year they executed three people and as recently as December of 2025, all of those went off without any issues or any problems. But certainly the state is not, they've had their share of them to the point where they did put a hiatus on the death penalty for five years. So look, this is not what anyone who is in the business of following through and carrying out are or at least that state's protocols. And so this is a problem. And this is certainly going to come up with not only Carruthers attorneys, but other death row inmates. They're going to point to this case right here. See, this is why this is cruel and unusual. This is why this is not an acceptable form of execution.
TJ Holmes
But you know, we were, well, we covered a lot of executions last year and robes, I can't remember one now that didn't go off without a hitch. I mean they all, they all seem to because everybody was waiting to See, these. These methods, these drugs are going to be a problem. And from all the reports that we got, it worked the way it was supposed to. And what is it, Alabama? What's the nitrogen? The nitrogen.
Amy Robach
It's. Alabama has the nitrogen gas.
TJ Holmes
Yes, they. So they have another method that people were, you know, a little skeptical about. And all of those went through without people complaining about any adverse reaction. I mean, how adverse can it be when somebody's killing you? But it worked the way it was supposed to. So this robes for that reason is kind of surprising that it didn't go through. But again, we're not talking about the drugs. We're not talking about him suffering. We're talking about. We can't find. Wrote one needle. So he sees the needle go into him. That's gonna kill him, right?
Amy Robach
Yeah.
TJ Holmes
The primary needle goes in. That's the one that's gonna deliver a drug that is going to put me down. And then they're poking around for an hour trying to find an hour and
Amy Robach
a half, trying to find another vein. That is. Look, I've had.
TJ Holmes
That's cruel.
Amy Robach
I've had that when obviously it was to help me live or be healthy. Not being able to find a vein that is an incredibly painful. They're poking, they're prodding, they're trying to find veins. Your veins are collapsing. I'm wondering, here's where my head goes. If I'm death row and I want to avoid being executed by lethal injection, I'm going to just abstain from drinking anything, hope that my veins are collapsed. My veins aren't capable of taking in a needle like this is actually. I've never heard of this, but I actually went to go check and see if Tennessee has any other options, because a lot of times, look, before the death warrant is signed, or is it when the death warrant is signed, you actually sign up for the kind or the type of execution you'd like. So obviously, lethal injection is the state's primary method, but they actually do allow a firing squad, according to Tennessee, if lethal injection is unavailable or if the inmate chooses it. So I don't even know what they would do now going forward if they're trying to proceed with this, if they already know the lethal injection is not reliable for this particular inmate. Would they. Would they put him up in front of a firing squad? And oddly, they do have an electric chair. They do have electrocution, but it's only allowed for inmates who committed crimes prior to 1999. Well, that would also be Carruthers, because he committed his crime in 1996. So now if his. If he has a new death warrant signed, is he going to have to choose between the electric chair and a firing squad? Because the lethal injection didn't go well this time. There's a lot of questions that need to be answered.
TJ Holmes
Do I have that? Do I have. They do get the option, right?
Amy Robach
They do.
TJ Holmes
Okay.
Amy Robach
And if you don't choose, I think it just defaults to lethal injection. That's the primary method. But you are allowed to choose between a firing squad and yes, if you committed your crime before 1999, you can choose the electric chair. I cannot imagine. But they said eligible inmates may elect the electric chair in writing 14 days before their scheduled execution. That seems. That seems so macabre. But you know what? The whole thing seems macabre to a
TJ Holmes
lot of folks we are getting now. And Rose, I'm trying to confirm this and get reporting, but the local affiliates there in. In Memphis and Nashville are reporting now that the execution is not going to go forward. In fact, the governor of Tennessee, now, Governor Lee, has granted robes a one year reprieve. This is being. This is double sourced at least now, but that the governor has decided to go forward with a one year reprieve, essentially giving him pushing and kicking the can down the road. This now robes opens up. You got a full year possibly now to do whatever it is.
Amy Robach
Those fingerprints.
TJ Holmes
So there's nothing else. I mean, this is. That you can't get any robes. He was gonna die, babe.
Amy Robach
I just got chills from head to toe because I just went there in my head and look, he may be as guilty as they come. But to think that if they test this fingerprint and they find someone else and somehow it's proven or he's exonerated. Can you imagine that scenario that it took? Literally, him being strapped to this gurney and medics not able to find a second vein. This is wild. And it's tbd. We don't know.
TJ Holmes
If that turns out to be the case, I might go out there and advocate against the death penalty myself. We got that close to messing up again.
Amy Robach
If.
TJ Holmes
If.
Amy Robach
It would sure seem like divine intervention. If. And that's a big if. But my God.
TJ Holmes
Or could this go the other way? Robes and give us a chance to just get it 100% correct.
Amy Robach
You know what? I don't understand what the harm in that is. Now I think obviously we've argued and we've talked about the fact that he's been on death row for 32 years. Why now? But you know what? Why not?
TJ Holmes
You know what? The, the families, I always say I will hold off on everything until I hear how they're feeling today about what's just taken place. How many years you say? 1994.
Amy Robach
1996. So we're talking about 30 years. Okay. He was sentenced to death in 96. Excuse me, but, but the crime was in 94.
TJ Holmes
30 years. There were family members, there was he three people he's convicted of killing. And we should as a reminder here, Robes, he did have an accomplice who was convicted as well, but that person happens to be out of prison right now. But they did serve and still, what was it, an Alford plea. Right. Didn't admit to guilt but still admitted there's enough evidence that I could be proven guilty. But went through that whole process and now they're out and. But they were convicted to. Was it initially death as well?
Amy Robach
It was initially to death, but then they were allowed to free. Be freed. And Carruthers, by the way we should point out, has maintained his innocence since his conviction and he claims, and this is I think fairly verifiable. The state's case pretty much was primarily based on the testimony and pointed this out of a paid informant. So there are still a lot of questions. But the victims in this case suffered a horrific fate. A 21 year old and a 17 year old were shot and then buried. And then the 21 year old's mother was buried alive in a grave that had been dug for someone else. And this was just as awful as it gets. But he has maintained his innocence and now perhaps he will get a chance to prove it.
TJ Holmes
Okay, finally here, yes. With doing the local reporting and really sorry rose up and scrambling on the computer here trying to get it but it just, just came up within the past six minutes as I see here. But the governor of Tennessee temporary reprieve for Tony Carruthers. Quote from the governor, I am granting Tony Carruthers a temporary reprieve from execution for one year. Additional details from the Tennessee Department of Correction are below. And that's all he said.
Amy Robach
Wow.
TJ Holmes
And so the statement you read from the DLC is our. Is up there as well. That's all he said. He didn't explain anything. We will hear more about this. But Robes, there are a lot of people have been. Some are saying he's innocent, others are saying at least check this evidence. Got a year to do it. So this has to be nothing short of a victory for those folks.
Amy Robach
Absolutely. And wow, what a surprise twist in this case. Thanks for riding that wave with us in real time. We always appreciate you listening, everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon. If audiobooks are your thing or you've been meaning to listen to more of them, you should check out a podcast called Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. Hosted by Kal Penn.
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Podcast Summary:
Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode: "NOW: With A Needle In His Arm, Death Row Inmate Has Execution Called Off"
Date: May 21, 2026
Hosts: Amy Robach & TJ Holmes (iHeartRadio)
This urgent, real-time episode was recorded in response to a breaking and highly unusual story: The scheduled execution by lethal injection of Tennessee death row inmate Tony Carruthers was abruptly called off while he was strapped to the gurney, due to an inability to find a suitable vein. Hosts Amy Robach and TJ Holmes walk listeners through the chaos, the legal backdrop, the failed Supreme Court appeal, and the subsequent one-year reprieve granted by the governor—all while questioning the broader implications for the death penalty in America.
Timing & Details:
Quote:
“They spent an hour and a half looking for a vein…because they couldn’t do that, they actually had to halt the execution.” — Amy Robach (03:43)
Victim and Case Context:
Quote:
“Tennessee is sitting on unidentified DNA and fingerprint evidence that does not match Mr. Carruthers—and if tested, could exonerate him.” — Amy Robach quoting ACLU statement (08:19)
Immediate Outcome:
Quote:
“He just might need a new date. It does not matter. Unless a court steps in and says the execution is called off, Tennessee can proceed. … No matter how this looks and all the back and forth, he is a condemned killer. And right now, we just got to work through some veins and paperwork.” — TJ Holmes (10:20)
Botched and Problematic:
Quotes:
“This is horrible for all parties involved…that is cruel and unusual, I would argue.” — TJ Holmes (06:17)
“With all the effort that went into stopping this execution, his own body may have saved him—or spared him, at least for now.” — Amy Robach (14:02)
Protocol Issues:
A year-long reprieve could allow for long-awaited forensic testing of DNA and fingerprint evidence central to innocence claims.
Hosts acknowledge the tragic irony and potential for a twist akin to “divine intervention,” given how close the execution came.
Quote:
“If they test this fingerprint and they find someone else and somehow it’s proven or he’s exonerated…Can you imagine that scenario, that it took literally him being strapped to this gurney and medics not able to find a second vein? …This is wild.” — Amy Robach (24:56)
Cruelty of the Process:
“Y’all can’t find a vein to kill me. Now Robes, that is cruel and unusual, I would argue.” — TJ Holmes (06:17)
Systemic Flaws:
“If I’m death row and I want to avoid being executed by lethal injection, I’m just going to abstain from drinking anything, hope that my veins are collapsed…This is actually—I’ve never heard of this…” — Amy Robach (22:00)
Turning Point:
“He was gonna die, babe.” — TJ Holmes (24:51)
“I just got chills from head to toe…If they test this fingerprint and …he’s exonerated…Can you imagine that scenario?” — Amy Robach (24:56)
Family Impact:
“I always say I will hold off on everything until I hear how [the victims’ families] are feeling today about what’s just taken place.” — TJ Holmes (26:05)
The hosts close with awe at the unprecedented turn of events—a man essentially saved from execution by a procedural technicality and a governor’s last-minute action. They stress the importance of both evidentiary review and considering the voices of victims’ families. The episode stands as a gripping, immediate account of death penalty intricacies, human fallibility, and the thin margins between life and death in America’s justice system.
This summary should provide you with a comprehensive, flowing overview of the episode’s key narrative, discussions, and implications—ideal for those who want a thorough understanding without listening to the full episode.