Podcast Summary: "Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial"

Episode: Order Inside the Freak Offs!
Release Date: June 3, 2025
Hosted By: iHeartPodcasts
Participants: Aubrey O’Day, Amy Robach, T.J. Holmes, Dr. Viviana Coles

1. Introduction to the Diddy Trial Coverage

The episode kicks off with Aubrey O’Day expressing her excitement about covering the high-profile Diddy trial alongside veteran journalists Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes. Aubrey, known for her tenure on Making the Band and her career in music as part of Danity Kane, brings a unique insider perspective to the proceedings that have captivated national attention.

Aubrey O’Day: “I am covering the Diddy trial... providing a unique perspective as only I am qualified to do given my first-hand knowledge.” ([02:50])

2. Understanding Sex Positivity and Its Misconceptions

To set the groundwork for their discussion, Aubrey introduces Dr. Viviana Coles, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over two decades of experience, specializing in emotional and physical intimacy challenges.

Aubrey O’Day: “I am a sex-positive human... someone who supports and affirms people's sexual interests, kinks, fetishes, whatever their interests are with no judgment and of course with consent.” ([02:50])

They delve into dispelling common myths surrounding various sexual behaviors to lay a foundation for analyzing the trial's testimonies.

Dr. Viviana Coles: “Sexual experiences being consensual and they need to be safe and sane... all of the information I'm sharing today is from my 20 plus years of working with couples and individuals.” ([04:49])

3. Myths vs. Reality: Debunking Common Misconceptions

Aubrey and Dr. Coles engage in a myth-busting segment to clarify misconceptions about sexual behaviors often labeled as 'freak offs'.

• Orgies and Trauma:

  Justin Richmond: “Is it true or not that people who enjoy orgies are traumatized?” ([05:24])

  Dr. Coles: “That is false. There are many functional people who like to explore sexual pleasure and kinks in a very safe way that has nothing to do with trauma.” ([05:35])

• Group Sex and Morality:

  Justin Richmond: “Does group sex mean that you lack morals?” ([05:52])

  Dr. Coles: “Absolutely not. Many people engage in group sex to stay connected with their partners, ensuring their own connection remains intact.” ([06:00])

• Kinks as Psychological Damage:

  Justin Richmond: “Is kink a result of sexual damage or psychological damage as well?” ([06:20])

  Dr. Coles: “It can be, but it’s not always the case. It’s a maybe.” ([06:27])

• Non-Traditional Sex and Emotional Harm:

  Justin Richmond: “Is non-traditional sex emotionally harmful?” ([06:40])

  Dr. Coles: “It can be, depending on the circumstances... For most, exploring different ways can be very healthy.” ([06:50])

These discussions highlight the importance of context, consent, and communication in defining the healthiness of various sexual practices.

4. Breaking Down 'Freak Offs': Voyeurism and Cuckolding in the Trial Context

A pivotal part of the episode involves dissecting specific sexual behaviors alleged in the trial, particularly voyeurism and cuckolding.

Justin Richmond: “A lot of people don't understand the layout of the freak offs... Can you explain to the audience what cuckolding is?” ([07:09])

Dr. Viviana Coles: “Cuckolding refers to when a partner enjoys and gets sexual gratification from watching or knowing that their partner is experiencing sexual pleasure with someone else.” ([07:36])

They relate these definitions directly to the case at hand, discussing how testimonies have alleged that Diddy exhibited such behaviors, including being present or orchestrating sexual acts via FaceTime.

5. When Sexual Behavior Becomes Criminal

The conversation shifts to defining the boundaries between consensual kink and criminal coercion, especially in light of the allegations against Diddy.

Dr. Viviana Coles: “Anytime that someone is doing something against their will... these are things that I think are very unhealthy and dysfunctional at the least.” ([08:35])

Justin Richmond elaborates on the trial's testimonies, emphasizing claims that Diddy's actions were coercive rather than consensual.

Justin Richmond: “All of those things that have been established as part of coercive abuse have been established in this trial through testimony...” ([09:07])

This segment underscores the critical difference between consensual exploration of sexuality and abusive, non-consensual behaviors that cross into criminality.

6. Power Dynamics and Exploitation in Sexual Relationships

The discussion evolves to examine how power imbalances can lead to exploitation, drawing parallels to the dynamics observed in the trial.

Justin Richmond: “There's a through line with him that always exerted extreme power... There was like the choking element. It shows a desire to exert control over a life and death moment.” ([20:18])

Dr. Viviana Coles: “For a lot of people who are struggling to find healthy ways to express their sexuality... you're not in a very healthy sexual relationship.” ([25:05])

These insights illustrate how individuals in positions of authority can manipulate sexual dynamics, leading to environments where consent is compromised.

7. Observations on Sex Parties: Consent and Safety

Aubrey shares her firsthand experiences attending a celebrity sex party, providing a stark contrast between consensual gatherings and the alleged coercive practices in the trial.

Aubrey O’Day: “I was invited... to assess the scene... but I didn't see love in any of it. My soul just felt like hurt...” ([29:46])

Dr. Viviana Coles: “There are rules that people play by... no excessive use of drugs or alcohol, ensuring no loss of consent.” ([30:58])

This segment emphasizes the importance of established safety protocols in consensual sexual environments versus the lack thereof in the trial's allegations.

8. The Pressure to 'Up the Ante' in Relationships

Justin delves into societal pressures, especially on women, to escalate sexual performances to maintain relationships, a theme resonant with many testimonies in the trial.

Justin Richmond: “Make sure that all parts of your soul, your mind, your spirit, are consenting in the behaviors that you participate in.” ([35:45])

Dr. Viviana Coles: “None of those have to be extremely painful or morally disgusting. If you're feeling like you have to 'up the ante,' it might be time to seek therapy.” ([34:24])

The dialogue highlights the detrimental effects of external pressures on personal boundaries and the necessity for open communication and self-consent in healthy relationships.

9. Conclusion: Advocating for Healthy, Consensual Sexual Practices

As the episode wraps up, Aubrey and Dr. Coles reiterate the importance of consent, personal boundaries, and seeking professional help when needed. They advocate for a sex-positive approach that celebrates consensual expression while vehemently opposing coercion and abuse.

Dr. Viviana Coles: “For all of you survivors out there... they can get to a much better and healthier place when it comes to both relationships and sexuality.” ([39:46])

Justin Richmond: “Sex is fun. Being sex positive is great... make sure that all parts of you... are consenting in the behaviors you participate in.” ([35:45])

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Aubrey O’Day: “I am covering the Diddy trial... providing a unique perspective as only I am qualified to do given my first-hand knowledge.” ([02:50])

• Dr. Viviana Coles: “Sexual experiences being consensual and they need to be safe and sane... all of the information I'm sharing today is from my 20 plus years of working with couples and individuals.” ([04:49])

• Dr. Viviana Coles: “That is false. There are many functional people who like to explore sexual pleasure and kinks in a very safe way that has nothing to do with trauma.” ([05:35])

• Justin Richmond: “Anytime that someone is doing something against their will... these are things that I think are very unhealthy and dysfunctional at the least.” ([08:35])

• Justin Richmond: “There's a through line with him that always exerted extreme power... There was like the choking element. It shows a desire to exert control over a life and death moment.” ([20:18])

• Justin Richmond: “Make sure that all parts of your soul, your mind, your spirit, are consenting in the behaviors that you participate in.” ([35:45])

• Dr. Viviana Coles: “For all of you survivors out there... they can get to a much better and healthier place when it comes to both relationships and sexuality.” ([39:46])

Final Thoughts

This episode offers a comprehensive and nuanced exploration of the Diddy trial, intertwining personal experiences, expert insights, and critical analysis of sexual behaviors and consent. Aubrey O’Day, enriched by Dr. Viviana Coles' expertise, provides listeners with a deep understanding of the complexities surrounding consensual sex practices and the fine line where abuse and criminal activity intersect. The conversation underscores the necessity of consent, healthy boundaries, and the importance of addressing power dynamics in all relationships.