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TJ Holmes
Hey there folks. It is Thursday, January 8th, and as you can imagine, it was a night of developments in Minneapolis, but also across the country after an ICE agent shot and killed a woman in a video that pretty much the whole country has seen. And with that welcome to this episode of Amy and tj. We want to hop on and give you all the latest in overnight developments which came from a Christian home presser, New camera angles, vigils and protests. Calls for the arrest of this officer, but robes. We had a couple of press conferences yesterday from a number of officials, certainly the mayor of Minneapolis, certainly with his tone kind of ramped things up, but I think some voices at least tone things down.
Amy
Governor Tim Waltz stands out as the voice of reason, at least with the pressers that we saw. It was finally someone who disagreed with what happened but did so peacefully and without incendiary language and, and showed that you can say, I don't agree with this. I see something different. And then call for calm and actually represent that calm. You can call for calm and, and say something and oh yeah, he act, his words matched his tone and it.
TJ Holmes
Worked and they listened. Apparently we should start with that because oftentimes and even specifically in Minneapolis, we have seen in years past how things can get out of control, how protests can get ugly at times. We almost giggled during the press conference with Tim Waltz yesterday because he had another officer come up, a public safety person, and was almost giving instructions on how to protest.
Amy
He, he actually did give instructions on how to peacefully protest. The the ironic, the funny thing was at the moment he was saying, don't block streets, don't go in the roads, stay on the sidewalks. And they had a parallel photo of people literally walking down a road completely blocking traffic. So yes, they were trying to give the the rule book basically to peacefully protest and to not antagonize any law enforcement.
TJ Holmes
But the way the governor put it, he said, don't give them an excuse to claim insurrection. Don't give them a reason to come in here. And he was pleading with people. And it looks like maybe a lot of people did heed those warnings. Now, we'll start with all in the timeline, at least. Yesterday, Kristi Noem had a couple of press appearances, but her latest one, her last one, she did robes. We watched this live. She did a press conference. She was back in Minneapolis. And she double tripled down on at least one narrative coming from the administration about what happened in that scene. And she absolutely said he did what he's supposed to do. And she also. Robes double down. I keep saying doubling down. I shouldn't say that. She repeated, reiterated, calling this a. An act of domestic terror.
Amy
Yes. And that has struck a chord with a lot of folks in different ways, calling this domestic terrorism. But she said that the woman had been stalking and impeding ICE agents work all day. So she said then that she proceeded to weaponize her vehicle and attempted to run a law enforcement officer over. She said it was an attempt to kill or cause bodily harm to agents, and that means it was an act of domestic terrorism. She says the ICE officer feared for his life and the other officers around him and the safety of the public. And because of that, he fired those defensive shots. And she. They made it very clear. She said he used his training to save his own life and that of his colleagues.
TJ Holmes
Yeah. And she made the point that they have seen incidents like this before. They want people to stop using their vehicles to ram officers. She also did mention that he did go to the hospital and was treated. And this is where we need to pick up robes. I think overnight and later in the day, other videos and other angles started coming out. And you looked at these this morning? I did. As well as one of the first things I said to you, she hit him.
Amy
Yes. And I think, look, here are the. When you look at the different angles. Yes, there was one that was from the front and in the back. And you could see that she did appear to hit him. And however, it still is fairly obvious she was trying to get away. Now, so inadvertently hitting an officer, it. The intent of it probably doesn't matter when it comes to the investigation, because if you hit an officer with your.
TJ Holmes
Vehicle, you just attacked him with a deadly weapon is. Is how he sees it. This is now all bets are off. And I can. He doesn't Know who she is and what she's doing. This is an awful, awful situation. You can argue if they hadn't been there in the first place, this wouldn't have happened. You can argue if she had just obeyed. Like there's. There's fault probably on all sides in this. But it's. It's too bad that the narratives are so starkly different and we're all looking at the exact same thing.
Amy
Isn't that interesting that we can all look at the same videos, plural, now and then, see very different things. And I think it is a difference between what intent. So. So we're hearing DHS saying she was intending to cause bodily harm, she was intending to run them over, she was intending to potentially kill them. I think a lot of people who see that video disagree with that. But the reality is contact, it looks like, was absolutely made on that one.
TJ Holmes
Yes. There is an angle out there now that shows. And you see his body twist and turn and jolt, and it looks like in this angle, at least you can say with confidence he was struck. Don't want to say how hard and all this. That's not. But it looks like contact was made with this officer.
Amy
Yes. And the other videos that we did see as well did show her backing up and allowing other vehicles to come around her. She was waving them. And then when it came to the ICE agents, she would push. She would. She would pull back up and block the road. So she was letting other people go by and then refusing to let ICE go by. And look, that's obviously not legal.
TJ Holmes
It also, everybody would argue shouldn't cost you your life either in this situation. But it gave. We talked about it yesterday. I wonder what happened happened leading up to the moment that we are seeing. And yes, other videos have now come out. And Kristi Noem, this goes in line with what Kristi Noem was saying, is that these officers, these agents, I should say, had issue with their vehicle, got stuck in the snow or something. They were trying to get it out, so they kind of got stuck in the road and they were blocked in by other vehicles, essentially trying to trap these agents. And I guess that video we're talking about, it's several minutes of this SUV that the woman is in. You do you see it going back and forth? And it is perpendicular to the street. So why is she that way? And it does appear she's trying to impede the officer.
Amy
Look, no one should pay for a nonviolent act with their life in that sense, at least by blocking the road. But I. I Do wonder, I do wonder what she thought or how she thought it was going to end. Clearly she couldn't have thought that she was going to stop ICE officers from driving down the road. So it's just, it's one of those things where if people could only recognize, you know what to what end. Like I understand you're upset. I understand perhaps you think you're protecting your immigrant neighbors. That's how she's been described. But at the end of it all, your decision, you have to take responsibility for decisions you make. Now, it escalated in a way I don't think she could have anticipated or even maybe the ICE agents would have anticipated or any of the bystanders. It was a horrific end. But it, everyone has to take responsibility for their roles. And I think that is what we heard from the leaders even when they disagreed with ice's reaction to what happened. We did get some leadership from Tim Waltz. I was appreciative of his press conference.
TJ Holmes
He is tone at least. And look, he and President Trump have been going at it in a very nasty way for several weeks, weeks, months. And you can argue years. But the tone was I thought in that moment. Correct. You mentioned the victim here. She has been identified. 37 year old Renee Nicole Wood, an American citizen, a mother. I didn't see how old the child was.
Amy
6 years old.
TJ Holmes
6 years old whose father had passed previously. I think you mentioned to me. So this is a child now who is without parents.
Amy
Yes.
TJ Holmes
Again, adding to the tragedy of this all you were also mentioning and let's jump and do it now, the tone you talked about responsibility and of JD Vance, his comments at least you might not like him but I guess there was something to how he put it that almost I guess ropes he played it right down the middle to where both folks on both sides would have to get what he said.
Amy
Yes, I agree this. We'll read you his comment. He, he had two, I believe different posts that he put up on X. The first one, you can accept that this woman's death is a tragedy while acknowledging it's a tragedy of her own making. Don't illegally interfere in federal law enforcement operations and try to run over our officers with your car. It's really that simple. And then in another post he did write I want every ICE officer to know that their president, vice president and the entire administration stands behind them to the radicals assaulting them, doxxing them and threatening them. Congratulations. We're going to work even harder to enforce the law.
TJ Holmes
And I think the issue is a tragedy of her own making. I think others probably would fill that in with a tragedy of Trump's making, a tragedy of ICE agents making that just ramped up things in this community. Yes. If ICE had not descended on Minneapolis, this woman would be alive. Sure. I mean, that's just the case. So you then think like, was this necessary? What is the point? And I don't know if that's the right. We'll never come to terms on that. I just. What is the part of the story, Robes, we can't come to terms on? What can we all agree on? We are being shown the exact same piece of evidence and coming to very different conclusions about it. And that's remarkable.
Amy
Yes. And look, I think back, look, the press conference we got from the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Fry, it was fiery to say the least. But he did point out that he was like, we have been saying this and this was our big concern. And he, along with the chief of police, that somebody was going to get hurt or killed, that this was going to happen. This was inevitable with the tensions the way they were. And this was the thing they feared the most. And it happened on Wednesday.
TJ Holmes
It will happen again. We saw how heated it was immediately in the streets, like, oh my God, we thought the place was really going to explode. Thank goodness it did not. But this is absolutely going to happen again. Of course, we heard from President Trump yesterday. We, I was surprised we didn't hear more from him later in the day. But we will share at least what his truth social post was yesterday, saying that he had just viewed the clip of what took place, did say it was horrible to watch, but this is where he started commenting about. And a lot of people you remember, if you heard the. Saw the video and heard it, the person shooting that video was screaming and yelling the entire time. So the President picks up at that moment saying, quote, the woman screaming was obviously a professional agitator and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE officer who seems to have shot her in self defense. Again, this was earlier on. I don't know if his tone at all will change. But violently, willfully, viciously. I mean, I don't know. Maybe that's how he saw it.
Amy
Maybe. But the next sentence is where I he lost me. Based on the attached clip and that's the video. It is hard to believe he is alive but is now recovering in the hospital. That was a little much. He said the situation is being studied in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the radical left is threatening, assaulting and targeting our law enforcement officers and ICE agents on a daily basis. Basis.
TJ Holmes
And here we go. Right. Did we stop to. This is a tragedy and it doesn't feel like we, we even treated it like one. This is just, let's fight about it. This is just what we do. We didn't stop for a moment. Somebody's dead. Can we all be sad for a second that we just watched this play out? No, let's fight about it. We're all, that's all we're doing now.
Amy
And I know this woman's mother has been speaking out to, to press and media, trying to keep her daughter's memory, or at least her name and who she was in the spotlight as well. Because yes, it has been and it certainly will be forgotten in the politics of it.
TJ Holmes
All right, well, stay with us here folks. When we come back. We'll let you now see here what happened around the country wasn't just in Minneapolis, but citizens in cities across the country are showing solidarity and support. We'll tell you who's now involved in the investigation of of this case as well and what all the professionals out there saying from the legal experts to the law enforcement folks about what they are seeing in this video.
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We continue here now on Amy and TJ and robes. There were protests across the country. I think you were doing a deeper dive than I was on where all these popped up. But for the most part. Are we hearing anything about disruptions, clashes with police or anything like that?
Amy
That is the good news. And honestly I actually feel my shoulders relax like this is amazing and this is actually what makes America beautiful. There were peaceful protests all around the country. Atlanta, Miami, Boston, Milwaukee, Seattle, San Francisco. Three thousands of people joined that one. Tucson, Portland, Eugene. Every you start googling it and pretty much every major city Miami yet just had hundreds if not thousands of people show up on the streets with signs in their hands. And of course, here in New York, Foley Square, known to be a place where protesters gather holding signs like ice is Trump's Gestapo. ICE out of Minnesota. A lot of people holding up signs, remember? So this is what Americans do. This is our right. And to know that we can do it even when there's outrage and true outrage, that we can have emotions be high and yet actions be calm. That is good to know.
TJ Holmes
I was surprised. Was I surprised to hear, did you hear much about the, the thought, the logic that went into them canceling classes in Minneapolis?
Amy
You know, but they have, they did. And I actually was a little surprised when I saw that. But yes, the Minneapolis school district announced late yesterday that they will cancel classes for the rest of the week and.
TJ Holmes
Anticipate, you know what, they've, they've seen this before and maybe they did it as a precaution.
Amy
This happened, this shooting happened, I believe they said, was it 10 blocks away from where George Floyd was shot?
TJ Holmes
I meant to look that up because I've seen as many as low as 4.
Amy
Okay. So within blocks, they said it was less than a three minute drive where this woman was shot yesterday from where George Floyd was shot. So, yes, they have expanded, experienced what can happen with outrage and emotion and what people feel is an unjustified killing. So they probably were anticipating violence in the streets and harm potentially to students or who knows what would happen within the school. People start arguing the left versus the right. Even kids go home, hear rhetoric from their parents, get into the school and start getting into it. So look out of an abundance of caution. I think it probably was perhaps a smart contract.
TJ Holmes
Wow. Experience has taught them to do this. The FBI, we should say, is now investigating. We should also say we had didn't mention before that Governor Waltz said he has. I can't remember the official name of it, but he has essentially put the National Guard on standby saying, emergency orders, emergency order, something may come, be ready to rock. He made a good point as well. These are our people. They're Minnesotans. He said, remember when you see the National Guard, these are your people, these are your neighbors, this is their community. They're going to be treating this as their home. You almost said, hey, give them a break. These are our peeps.
Amy
These are dads, these are moms, these are people who are your neighbors and treat them with respect. And you even said, like, I'm so glad he pointed that out. Again, the humanization, we look at folks in uniform, people with guns, and they're somehow and masks now. Yeah, that's a really good point. And they're doing that for their own safety, which is ironic. But the point being they are humans. They are people with families and friends. And they lit especially the National Guard. They live in this community. And that's an important thing to remember when you immediately assign judgment to someone because of the uniform they're wearing or the job that they're doing. And that is important. Also, we were talking a little bit about just the outrage. And I'm curious what happens in the days that follow because the ICE agents aren't leaving. They say get the F out. That's been so much of the rhetoric. But 2,000 ICE agents descended in this area, on this area, and they're not leaving. So it will be interesting to see what happens in the days to come.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, I can't imagine the White House, the administration backing down at all. And from all the comments we've gotten, they are have even more resolve than they did before. And this is going to continue. But how is the community going to react to every agent they see now?
Amy
And what about the investigation? Because as you were pointing out, and we heard from the experts that in terms of justification for a lethal shooting by a law enforcement officer, from the videos we've seen, what are the experts saying?
TJ Holmes
That he might get fired or reprimanded but not charged. And that's what you see. There's, there's so many of these cases historically, and we've covered them in our careers as well. When a vehicle is going towards an officer, sir, it is a deadly weapon that is a threat. All bets are off. He can use deadly force and they have been cleared in this before. However, all of the law enforcement folks that got on yesterday and we were listening to all said they're trained not to stand in front of a vehicle ever. Moving or not. You're not supposed to. Why? It's common sense. Right.
Amy
You don't stand behind a horse. You don't stand in front of a vehicle, especially if it's moving.
TJ Holmes
Yeah, you're supposed to have common sense when it comes to the horse, but when it comes to the car, it's common sense and policy. You're not supposed to do that for your own safety. You just don't do it. So, yes, that would be an error that some are pointing out, but the law enforcement folks all day we listen to were not necessarily getting on to this officer for reacting and behaving the way he did.
Amy
And can you imagine with the swift support that the ICE agents received from the President on down to Kristi Noem and beyond that they would even reprimand this officer at this point.
TJ Holmes
Oh goodness no. Are you kidding? The President would step in if anybody tried to reprimand this guy. And who with Homeland Security is going to say, hey Mr. President, we found in the investigation that maybe he shouldn't stop. That's obviously not going to happen. But you just made me think of something else. The fear. Now what do you do in Minneapolis? If I see an ICE agent and he tells me to do anything, I'm going to behave because he can shoot me and be justified if I make the wrong move. Is there now going to be fear and people going to get in line even more? This is fear and a tactic now that we're not used to seeing on the streets of the United States of America.
Amy
Yes. And a 37 year old white woman who probably didn't think for one second second she was going to be shot in the head for fleeing a police or ignoring a police officer's instructions to open the door. You know, it's you. Everyone kind of thinks what would I do in that situation? I just know that I'm such a rule follower if a police officer screamed, you know, open, you know, and I think he was like, you know, get the F out of the car or whatever it was. I'm, I'm going to get the F out of the car.
TJ Holmes
And we saw the law enforcement guy a long time. I can't remember his name right now, but made the point when he walks towards the car, gives her a command, puts his hand on the door and she takes off. You're now getting into a criminal element. You are evading capture. You are now running from police. And yet. So he made that point. Look, it's every there's fault to go on all sides. We got to learn something from this.
Amy
Yes.
TJ Holmes
But we just want to hop on and give you the update from over night because there were a lot of developments. We will continue to keep an eye on Minneapolis today. By all means. As always, top right corner of your Apple podcast app on our show page, little button says follow. Hit that and you can get our updates coming to you throughout the day. There will be more for always. As always, I should say. Appreciate you all. Appreciate you all spending time with us. I'm T.J. holmes. Foreign.
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Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Episode: OVERNIGHT Developments in Minneapolis: Protests, Noem, and New Angles of "Act of Terrorism"
Date: January 8, 2026
On this urgent episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes dissect the dramatic overnight developments in Minneapolis and nationwide following the shooting of a woman by an ICE agent—a moment captured on widely circulated video. The hosts break down the protests, press conferences from public officials (including Governor Tim Walz and Kristi Noem), the evolving narratives, new video evidence, and community response, offering nuanced discussion on a story already polarizing the nation.
[03:23] TJ Holmes introduces the central event: an ICE agent shot and killed a woman during an incident in Minneapolis, which has rapidly become a national flashpoint:
[04:05] Amy: “Governor Tim Walz stands out as the voice of reason...It was finally someone who disagreed with what happened but did so peacefully and without incendiary language ... his words matched his tone and it worked.”
[04:57] Amy: The governor's press conference included actual instructions for peaceful protest, juxtaposed with live images showing protesters blocking streets—highlighting the ongoing tension between official guidance and public actions.
[05:21] TJ Holmes: Recaps South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem’s press conference, noting her forceful rhetoric:
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[06:05] Amy: “She said then that she proceeded to weaponize her vehicle and attempted to run a law enforcement officer over...She says the ICE officer feared for his life ... [and] he used his training to save his own life and that of his colleagues.”
[06:48] TJ Holmes: As new camera angles emerge, the hosts analyze footage showing physical contact between the car and an agent.
[07:12] Amy: “Yes, there was one that was from the front and in the back. And you could see that she did appear to hit him. And however, it still is fairly obvious she was trying to get away.”
[08:05] Amy: “Isn't that interesting that we can all look at the same videos, plural, now and then see very different things?...I think a lot of people who see that video disagree with [the official intent]. But the reality is contact, it looks like, was absolutely made on that one.”
[09:55] Amy: Questions what the woman thought would be the possible outcome, reflecting on personal agency, protest, and tragedy.
[11:00] TJ Holmes: Identifies the victim as Renee Nicole Wood—a 37-year-old American mother, widowed, leaving behind a 6-year-old child:
[11:20] Amy: “6 years old...this is a child now who is without parents.”
[11:53] Amy: Quotes Senator JD Vance’s viral social media posts, calling the death “a tragedy of her own making,” and expressing unequivocal support for ICE agents.
Notable Quote:
[13:13] Amy: “...the press conference we got from the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frey, it was fiery to say the least. But he did point out ... this was our big concern...that somebody was going to get hurt or killed, that this was going to happen.”
[13:41] TJ Holmes: Reads Trump’s Truth Social post, in which Trump blames “professional agitators,” asserts the agent acted in self-defense, and casts broader blame on the “radical left.”
Notable Quote:
[14:52] Amy: “The next sentence is where he lost me. ... It is hard to believe he is alive but is now recovering in the hospital. That was a little much.”
[19:57] TJ Holmes & [20:11] Amy: Detail the notable, largely peaceful protests across U.S. cities.
[21:40] TJ Holmes: The shooting occurred within blocks—a “three minute drive”—of George Floyd’s fatal encounter, underscoring the city’s fraught history with law enforcement violence.
[22:18] TJ Holmes & [22:53] Amy:
[23:57] TJ Holmes: ICE agents “are not leaving”; ongoing heavy federal presence is stoking more community anxiety.
[24:10] Amy & [24:24] TJ Holmes:
Notable Quote:
[25:00] Amy: “You don’t stand behind a horse. You don’t stand in front of a vehicle, especially if it's moving.”
[25:38] TJ Holmes: “The President would step in if anybody tried to reprimand this guy...this is fear and a tactic now that we’re not used to seeing on the streets of the United States of America.”
[26:21] Amy: Reflects on the fear this incident may inspire: “If I see an ICE agent and he tells me to do anything, I'm going to behave because he can shoot me and be justified.”
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