Sentencing Day: Family of Murdered Mother of 5 Faces Killer

Summary

Sentencing Day: Family of Murdered Mother of 5 Faces Killer

Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Hosts: Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes
Release Date: August 11, 2025

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Introduction

In this emotionally charged episode, hosts Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes delve into the heartbreaking case of Rachel Morin, a 37-year-old mother of five who was brutally murdered. The episode focuses on the sentencing hearing of Victor Martinez Hernandez, the convicted murderer, and explores the profound impact of his heinous crimes on Rachel's family and the broader societal implications.

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Case Overview

The tragic events unfolded on the evening of August 5, 2023, when Rachel Morin went for her routine run on the Mon Pa Heritage Trail in Bel Air, Maryland. Despite her consistent running schedule, Rachel was brutally attacked by Victor Martinez Hernandez, an undocumented immigrant from El Salvador with a violent criminal history.

• T.J. Holmes explains, “[03:25]...he is a dangerous guy with ties reportedly to a gang down in El Salvador,” highlighting the severity of Martinez Hernandez’s background.

Details of the Crime

Rachel Morin's attack was meticulously planned. Martinez Hernandez stalked her, knowing her exact routine, and executed a premeditated assault that left Rachel grievously injured.

• Amy Robach recounts, “[04:30]...the medical examiner testified...it was the worst autopsy result he's ever seen because from head to toe there wasn't a part of her body that wasn't injured.”

The brutality of the attack underscored the viciousness of the perpetrator, who showed no remorse during the trial proceedings.

• At [08:42], Amy Robach shares her visceral reaction: “When you were reading that, I actually felt physically ill just imagining the evil in this man...”

Sentencing Hearing

The sentencing hearing, taking place on August 11, 2025, is a pivotal moment for Rachel Morin’s family as they confront the man responsible for their loss. Despite Martinez Hernandez’s lack of remorse, the family’s testimonies convey deep grief and a quest for closure.

• Amy Robach notes, “[06:28]...all five of Rachel's children submitted statements to the court, victim impact statements.”

Family members, including Rachel’s younger brother John Morin, delivered tearful testimonies expressing their profound loss.

• At [10:28], Amy Robach highlights a remarkable moment: “...Rachel's older brother Michael...told...he forgives the defendant...because God sees all and forgives even the worst of sinners.”

This act of forgiveness amidst unimaginable grief demonstrates the family's resilience and desire for peace.

Perpetrator’s Demeanor and Legal Proceedings

Victor Martinez Hernandez exhibited a stoic and emotionless demeanor throughout the trial, even laughing and joking during his psychological evaluations, which only intensified the family's and public's outrage.

• T.J. Holmes observes, “[07:24]...Victor Martinez Hernandez is...a man with...no look, no expression...”

The judge, adhering to strict courtroom protocols, instructed the family to address the court rather than the defendant directly, ensuring that the focus remained on the family's loss rather than personal confrontations.

• Amy Robach explains, “[09:05]...the judge had given them very strict orders not to address the defendant at all directly.”

Immigration and Political Implications

The case has ignited debates around immigration policies, with Martinez Hernandez's status as an undocumented immigrant aggravating political tensions. The sheriff acknowledged the failure of the immigration system that allowed a violent individual to reside in the country.

• Amy Robach states, “[15:12]...the sheriff...mentioned...it was the failure of our immigration system that allowed this man to come into our country and commit these violent acts.”

This aspect of the case has made it a political hot potato, intertwining personal tragedy with national policy debates.

Impact on the Community and Family

Rachel Morin’s family has been left to navigate their grief while grappling with the broader implications of the case. The family's courageous testimonies aim to honor Rachel’s memory and seek justice, providing a poignant narrative of loss and strength.

• Amy Robach reflects, “[16:22]...to have to go through a tragedy like this...adds another layer of pain to all of this.”

Conclusion of the Sentencing

Victor Martinez Hernandez was convicted of first-degree premeditated murder, first-degree rape, third-degree sex offense, and kidnapping. Facing life in prison without the possibility of parole, Martinez Hernandez will spend the rest of his life incarcerated, bringing some measure of closure to Rachel Morin’s family.

• Amy Robach concludes, “[21:55]...Maryland does not have the death penalty. If this had been a federal crime, we could have had perhaps another outcome at this point. But this is what prosecutors and her family hope that he never sees the light of day.”

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Notable Quotes

• “He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer.” — T.J. Holmes [01:55]

• “When you were reading that, I actually felt physically ill just imagining the evil in this man...” — Amy Robach [08:42]

• “The judge had given them very strict orders not to address the defendant at all directly.” — Amy Robach [09:05]

• “He forgives the defendant... because God sees all and forgives even the worst of sinners.” — Michael Morin [10:28]

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Final Thoughts

The episode poignantly captures the intersection of personal tragedy and broader societal issues, emphasizing the profound impact of Rachel Morin’s loss on her family and the ongoing debates surrounding immigration and public safety. Through heartfelt testimonies and incisive analysis, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes present a comprehensive and moving account of a case that has left an indelible mark on the community and the nation.

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For more detailed coverage and updates on the case, listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.

Transcript

[Amy Robach]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[TJ Holmes]

I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast. You, the listener, ask the questions. Did George Washington really cut down a cherry tree?

[Amy Robach]

Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?

[TJ Holmes]

And I find the answers. I am so glad you asked me this question.

[Amy Robach]

This is such a ridiculous story.

[TJ Holmes]

You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.

[Amy Robach]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[TJ Holmes]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Amy Robach]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcast. Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult, but it happens all the time to people just like you and people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc. And I'm Megan Elizabeth. We're the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me. New episodes every Wednesday on. Exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime on the new podcast, America's Crime Lab. Every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth.

[TJ Holmes]

He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer.

[Amy Robach]

Screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[TJ Holmes]

This technology's already solving so many cases.

[Amy Robach]

Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[TJ Holmes]

Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on the puzzler with A.J. jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers believe in? I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. They gave you the answers and you still blew it. The Puzzler. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks. It is Monday, August 11th, and as we speak, the man convicted of raping and viciously murdering Rachel Morin, a mother of five, he is learning his fate. His sentencing hearing is underway. Again as we speak. And it is our understanding that that mother of five that he killed all five of her kids have addressed the court in some way for their victim impact statement. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ in robes. This is a case I even for a second forgot how much of an impact this had in this country because one, this guy was on the run for so long and two, it was smack dab in the middle of our politics.

[Amy Robach]

Smack dab in the middle of our politics because this was an undocumented immigrant who came from El Salvador who actually had been wanted for murder. He is also tied to another crime potentially in Los Angeles. So this was a dangerous guy with ties reportedly to a gang down in El Salvador. So yes, this is right in the middle of our current politics. And this also speaks to the heart of every woman out there who, who loves to run, who loves to go on jogs, who wants to feel safe and empowered. And we hear these stories too often about violence against women who are just trying to empower themselves and make themselves physically better. And yet at the same time we have to be worried about who may be watching us and who may be waiting for us.

[TJ Holmes]

This was a, we've had several stories over the years of main national headlines of women being attacked and being murdered, being out for runs. This was I think without question among one of, if not the most vicious attacks that we got details about.

[Amy Robach]

I got chills when you said that because of the sentencing hearing. We went back and we researched the details of the story and the trial transcripts and what actually happened to 37 year old Rachel Morin while she was out on this very popular running trail. You and I love to run on running trails. These are rail trails. This is the, I think it's the Maryland Pennsylvania rail trail. And she loved her evening run. She's. They said she went almost every night. But when the medical examiner testified and we're not going to get into any gory details, but he said it was the worst autopsy result he's ever seen because from head to toe there wasn't a part of her body that wasn't injured. That spoke volumes.

[TJ Holmes]

And you know, to your point just then about going back and researching and forgetting just how brutal this thing was. Do you probably notice this as well? So many place you places you go and look up and research at the top it has a warning, contains graphic. Yes information in this story. That's how bad it was. And so that guy is in court right now. He was found guilty of several charges of all he was charged with, including kidnapping, sexual assault, murder as well, premeditated murder I believe it was. So he's facing the possibility of life in prison without parole. Now we aren't able robes there in Maryland where they're having court there aren't allowing cameras in the courtroom. So this is quite frankly very similar to what we were doing during the Diddy trial. We depended on reporters who were in the room and giving live updates. Now this doesn't have the same amount of attention necessarily right now as the Ditty trial is. So not as many reporters in there, but we were able to find one, a young lady want to give her credit, Blair Sable, she's with wmar, the ABC news station there in Maryland, in Baltimore. So we wanted to give her credit but she's been giving us at least a little few dribs and drabs she can robes about what's been happening in the courtroom this morning so far.

[Amy Robach]

Right. In addition to letting us know that all five of Rachel's children submitted statements to the court, victim impact statements. She also talked about Rachel's younger brother. His name is John Morin and he had been living overseas. But she said he gave a tearful testimony about he described it as a tidal wave of grief that he's experienced losing his sister. And we know that her second daughter also gave a statement saying that she wishes she could have done something different to save her. Her daughters reported texting with her that evening up until about 7pm and then all of a sudden their texts just stopped being returned and they couldn't get a hold of her. And just what a scary thought for anyone who doesn't want to think the worst. But even her boyfriend at the time thought that maybe she was cheating on him. She wasn't returning his phone call, she wasn't texting him back. So all these folks talk about the fear and the feelings they had in those moments when they didn't know where she was and what had happened.

[TJ Holmes]

And so the it continues in court. The reporter again is give us a heads up a short time ago that there was a break. So it seems like things were moving fairly quickly. And they got in 10 impact statements. You're reading this the same as I am. Got all them in a court started around 9:30am Eastern time. And just in a matter of two or three hours they had all those victim impact statements done. So we don't know how much, how soon we might have this wrapped up and hear exactly when, excuse me, hear exactly what his sentence will be. There's little color heroes as well. From the reporter in the room about Martinez Hernandez, again, I don't think we've mentioned his name, but Victor Martinez Hernandez is the one who was convicted in this killing, but said he has been stoic and barely showing any reaction to the powerful emotional testimony being heard. It goes on to say here that the prosecutor says that he even laughed and joked during his psych evaluations earlier this summer. So who knows what, what with this guy with the. I think we see that oftentimes it's kind of amazing at trials, people accused of doing the worst things you've ever heard. And during victim this powerful emotional stuff, they sit there with no look, no.

[Amy Robach]

Expression of all vacant, as in there's nothing inside of them. It actually, when you were reading that, I actually felt physically ill just imagining the evil in this man and knowing that he could have such a flippant attitude and then perhaps just having zero remorse or zero expression of remorse or anything. But it's interesting. Her mother has been speaking out, Rachel's mom, over the last couple of days to a lot of media outlets as she prepared to give this victim impact statement. She said she'd been working on it for months because what do you say to sum up your child's life and what do you say to the court in front of the man who took your daughter's life? She was just trying to to put her thoughts together because it was an impossible task, she said, to put it all in one statement. But interestingly, she said the judge had given them very strict orders not to address the defendant at all directly. And we've seen that happen before in other sentencing hearings. But she said they were specifically told, the family members who were going to stand up in court to address the judge and not to ask the judge for any specific sentence, but to express to the judge the loss and to express to the judge what their lives have been like after the loss of Rachel. So I thought those were interesting. I hadn't heard that before, that they weren't allowed or weren't supposed to even look at or direct any of their statements towards the defendant.

[TJ Holmes]

We just saw this a couple weeks. Was it CO Burger in Idaho? I'm getting his name right.

[Amy Robach]

Why?

[TJ Holmes]

Otherwise, that.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, that is exactly who it was.

[TJ Holmes]

But one of the victim's parents, he lit. He literally picked up the furniture, turned the podium towards the guy and went off directly at him. Absolutely. I've seen judges admonish family members as kind as possible, but you are addressing this court. You are not dressing an individual, as.

[Amy Robach]

Much as you might want to, as. I mean, I can only imagine. And interestingly, Blair Sable, who is in the courtroom that you just mentioned, she also talked about Rachel's older brother Michael. And this is, I'm sure, was a remarkable moment to witness in court. But she reported that Michael told. Well, I guess told the court that he forgives the defendant, man, not because he said his actions are excusable, but because he said God sees all and forgives even the worst of sinners. I think we can all understand that sentiment generally. But when you are personally experiencing that kind of loss with that kind of violence, I find that remarkable. I really do. That someone could stand up to the court and say that in the face of this monster, truly this monster, I.

[TJ Holmes]

Mean, you got to lean on something, man. Faith. That's. That's. You have to. You have to put your faith in something under these circumstances. And those circumstances were. Folks will remember, this was in August of 2023 and robes. I'm not sure if the st. No, there wasn't enough time for there to be a missing person national story because she was missing one day, reported missing that night, and she was found the next day. But this was August 5th that she went out, and she did. She went out at night for a run in this trail park. Bel Air, Maryland. Do they call it the Ma and Pa Heritage Trail?

[Amy Robach]

Yeah, Mon pa, because it's Maryland in Pennsylvania.

[TJ Holmes]

So that's kind of cool. But between six and seven, they know. They were able to track her. She made a couple of stops at a couple of stores. But then you mentioned as well, her last text to her daughter. She sent one to her daughter at 7:04, and that was the last time anybody ever heard from her.

[Amy Robach]

You know what's crazy? So her last text to her daughter was at 7:04. Presumably, she's walking or set off on her run at 7:09. So just five minutes later, that's when police believe Martinez committed his crime. Based on video and Apple watch and iPhone data, they're able to say five minutes later, she was attacked. And then it was four hours later when her family finally reported her missing. Her boyfriend, like I said, admitted he thought maybe she was cheating on him. Where was she? So he went and he found her car parked and he walked the trail but didn't see her. It wasn't until the next day that someone was walking, noticed a deer trail, like a smaller trail off the main trail, and saw blood on a rock. And that led them to her body the next day.

[TJ Holmes]

So here we are. This is August of 2023. Her body is found. They don't identify a suspect until the following May.

[Amy Robach]

Wow.

[TJ Holmes]

And again, this is an undocumented immigrant who was in the country. But Robe, this, you gave me a heads up on this. And then I went and found the dates. Okay, we say undocumented immigrants. So he came into the country. No, this is not a guy who overstayed a visa. This guy. And they have it documented that same year, January 19, entered the country in New Mexico illegally, was kicked out, tried again 12 days later into El Paso, Texas, was kicked out, tried again seven days later in Santa Teresa and got kicked out. He finally ends up some kind of way in Los Angeles. And Robes, that is where he is accused of a pretty vicious crime out there against a mom and her young child. And that's how they eventually track him down, through DNA from that crime. Another vicious crime in Los Angeles.

[Amy Robach]

And it's crazy if you think about him trying to get in January and February, it was in March of 2023. So somehow he got back in and got to LA. And yes, that DNA evidence from that attack was how they were able to connect him to Rachel Morin's death. Which is just sad that he was able to stay in that country for however many months later and then commit this other crime. And by the way, he came into this country while there was an arrest warrant for him in El Salvador for a murder of a there too. So that he's 23 years old. This is a violent man who just continued to commit crimes and vicious crimes against women while in this country illegally.

[TJ Holmes]

So he was identified as a suspect on May 20th. They finally tracked him down June 14th with a positive DNA match from his clothes and DNA from the murder scene. War issue for his arrest. He was picked up the next day in Tulsa. He's off the streets from what you just described. Roves a guy in and out, in and out, in and out of this country. Kept trying and trying until he finally was able to get in. A guy who has a murder warrant in his home country. This is very easy to say this should have never ever happened and that Rachel Morin should be alive today. And that is why it became such a political hot potato.

[Amy Robach]

Yes, even the sheriff in the county, it was Harford county, mentioned. He said it shouldn't be political, but frankly it is because it was the failure of our immigration system that allowed this man to come into our country and commit these violent acts. And that has to just be, you know, it's awful and unspeakable. To have to go through a tragedy like this, where someone who you love has experienced this type of violence and this type of death, and yet to know that it shouldn't have happened, to know that this person shouldn't have been in our country in the beginning is really difficult. And I can't imagine how that adds another layer of pain to all of this.

[TJ Holmes]

Another layer of pain. Today is supposed to be possibly a day of closure for this family. And again, we mentioned he's facing life in prison without the possibility of parole, and that is as bad of a sentence as he could possibly get because the death penalty is not on the table. American history is full of wise people.

[Amy Robach]

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[TJ Holmes]

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[Amy Robach]

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[Amy Robach]

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[TJ Holmes]

Are there people who say that it, it was rigged? Yeah. Ever since I was first on, people are like, they gave you the answers. Right. And then there's the other ones, which are like, they gave you the answers and you still blew it. Don't miss Jeopardy. Legend Ken Jennings on our special game show week of the Puzzler podcast. The puzzler is the best place to get your daily word puzzle fix. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. We continue now. Robes talking about a crime here against Rachel Morin, mother of five, killed, brutally raped, beaten, stabbed repeatedly. We hear about this crime. An undocumented immigrant has been found guilty of all of it. But he's only facing Robes life in prison without the possibility of parole. That's as harsh of a sentence he's going to get in Maryland.

[Amy Robach]

That's right. Maryland does not have the death penalty. If this had been a federal crime, we could have had perhaps another outcome at this point. But this is what prosecutors and her family hope that he never sees the light of day. And given the circumstances surrounding this murder, surrounding this attack, and the fact that he's accused of other vicious attacks, one would think that this judge would not stop short of doing exactly that, making sure this man, this monster, never gets.

[TJ Holmes]

Out of prison again, with heart. You know, I don't know all the law and what he has to consider, but that's a. Again, it was four things he was charged with. First degree premeditated murder, first degree rape, third degree sex offense, and kidnapping. He was charged with all four. He was convicted of all four. And again, Robes, a refresher on this trial. He was just convicted of all that in April trial, nine days. Jury deliberated less than one hour.

[Amy Robach]

My goodness. And it's premeditated because they say, the prosecution says that this man went to this park, in this trail almost every day during that summer. He was looking for his victim. He had photos of Rachel Morin in his phone. He, he planned this. He premeditated this. And she had a very, I mean, every day she went to this trail almost like clockwork. And you know, if you are a runner and this is awful because no one wants to put the onus on women to protect themselves. But yet we hear time and time again, mix up your routine. Don't go to the same place at the same time. Try to run with a Buddy. Don't wear Airflow AirPods. Try to be aware of your surroundings, especially if you're on a wooded trail where you have, there's privacy, there's opportunity for crime to take place. And so you got to think she was just someone who loved her evening runs, loved her evening walks, and we should be able to do that as women and not be fearful. But yet that all led, unfortunately, to her being this victim. Because he was, it seems as though, according to the prosecution police, he was stalking her. He knew where she was going and he knew when she was going to be there. And he was waiting, didn't they?

[TJ Holmes]

Some mentioned he had equipment or something out there, he had tools at some point even, I believe. So to your point, premeditation to this crime. We are keeping an eye on the courtroom there. And again, our thanks to the young lady, the reporter from WMAR there in Baltimore who has been really our eyes and ears right now and giving us the updates. We can pass those updates along to you all, but when, when we get more out of that courtroom, we certainly plan to hop back on and let you all know what ultimately happens. But as always, we appreciate you listening to us. From our partner, Amy Robach. I'm TJ Holm. Talk to you soon. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amy Robach]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime on the new podcast America's Crime Lab. Every case has a story to tell and the DNA holds the truth.

[TJ Holmes]

He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer.

[Amy Robach]

Screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[TJ Holmes]

This technology's already solving so many cases.

[Amy Robach]

Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[TJ Holmes]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Kennedy drove a car into a pond and left.

[Amy Robach]

A woman behind to drown.

[TJ Holmes]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Amy Robach]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[TJ Holmes]

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[Amy Robach]

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