Sentencing Day for Idaho Murderer Bryan Kohberger: Will He Speak?

Summary

Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present: Sentencing Day for Idaho Murderer Bryan Kohberger: Will He Speak?

Hosted by iHeartPodcasts | Release Date: July 23, 2025

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In this gripping episode of Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes delve deep into the highly anticipated sentencing day of Bryan Kohberger, the Idaho murderer convicted of the brutal killing of four University of Idaho students. Released on July 23, 2025, the episode offers a comprehensive analysis of the case, the legal proceedings, and the profound impact on the victims' families.

Case Overview

The episode opens with T.J. Holmes providing a succinct recap of the harrowing crime committed by Bryan Kohberger. On November 13, 2022, Kohberger, a Ph.D. student, brutally murdered four young students—Kaylee Goncale, Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin—in their off-campus residence. The shocking nature of the crime, combined with the lack of a clear motive, has left both the community and the nation seeking answers.

Sentencing Hearing Highlights

As the day of sentencing unfolds, Holmes and Robach discuss the courtroom dynamics and the expectations surrounding Kohberger's guilty plea. At [03:17], T.J. Holmes remarks:

"Today, the man who killed four University of Idaho students has an opportunity in open court to finally answer the question, why? Why did he kill those four students? He has an opportunity to tell us, but will he?"

Robach adds that while Kohberger has pleaded guilty to four murder charges, the absence of a trial means that the families may not receive the comprehensive answers they desperately seek. At [04:44], Robach states:

"This is their first chance to directly address Bryan Kohberger... But yes, they're also hoping to hear something from him. They all want to know what his motive was. And right now, no one knows."

Victim Impact Statements

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the victim impact statements. The families of the victims are preparing to share their grief and seek closure. However, there's a palpable tension as some families express frustration over the plea deal that precludes a full trial. At [07:50], Robach explains:

"Some family members are upset with prosecutors over the deal. They wanted input. They wanted to have a say in whether or not they were okay with that deal or not. So they were upset that they didn't get their day in court..."

Legal Maneuvering and Plea Deal

Holmes provides insight into the legal strategies that led to Kohberger's plea. Initially, there were attempts to exclude the death penalty due to Kohberger's recent diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder. At [06:55], he states:

"His defense lawyers made an attempt... but the judge rejected that... Now negotiations started with the prosecution about pleading guilty. And he is pled guilty, four life sentences, no possibility of parole."

This plea deal has left some families feeling that justice remains incomplete, as they were denied the opportunity to hear all evidence and statements firsthand.

Public and Presidential Commentary

The episode also touches upon the immense public interest in the case, with citizens eagerly awaiting the outcomes of the sentencing. Notably, even former President Trump weighed in, advocating for Kohberger to explain his actions. At [14:28], Robach mentions:

"He has taken to truth social and he has put out several statements. But one of them, he said, I hope the judge makes Kohberger, at a minimum explain why he did these horrible murders."

Potential for Closure

A key point of anticipation revolves around whether Kohberger will choose to speak during the sentencing. Both hosts ponder the potential impact of such an act on the grieving families. At [21:17], Holmes reflects:

"What works for one family might not work for another... if he did speak today, we will have our eye on the court out there and it is being live streamed."

The uncertainty of Kohberger's willingness to provide answers adds another layer of complexity to an already emotionally charged situation.

Final Thoughts

As the episode concludes, Robach and Holmes emphasize the lingering questions surrounding the motive behind the murders and the enduring pain of the victims' families. At [24:57], Robach poignantly states:

"There's no justification for what happened to those four young, bright and budding students... There's no explanation."

The hosts leave listeners contemplating the profound loss suffered by the families and the elusive quest for understanding in the wake of such a senseless tragedy.

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Key Quotes:

• T.J. Holmes [03:17]: "Today, the man who killed four University of Idaho students has an opportunity in open court to finally answer the question, why? Why did he kill those four students?"

• Amy Robach [04:44]: "They all want to know what his motive was. And right now, no one knows."

• Amy Robach [07:50]: "They were upset that they didn't get their day in court... it's supposed to be the end of it."

• T.J. Holmes [06:55]: "Now negotiations started with the prosecution about pleading guilty. And he is pled guilty, four life sentences, no possibility of parole."

• Amy Robach [14:28]: "I hope the judge makes Kohberger, at a minimum explain why he did these horrible murders."

• Amy Robach [24:57]: "There's no justification for what happened to those four young, bright and budding students."

This episode serves as a poignant reminder of the quest for justice and understanding in the aftermath of tragedy, highlighting the complexities of the legal system and the profound impact on those left behind.

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[TJ Holmes]

Hey there, folks. It's July 23rd, and today the man who killed four University of Idaho students has an opportunity in open court to finally answer the question, why? Why did he kill those four students? He has an opportunity to tell us, but will he? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. Not a lot of mystery in the sentencing of Kohberger today, but here we are three years later, and we still, still don't have any idea why he killed these kids.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And as excruciating as it is for the families, the parents of these four students to just accept the fact that their loved ones are gone and were brutally murdered, but to have no idea why is just adding insult to injury. And so these families, with the exception of one of the victim's families, will be in court, first of all, to give their own impact statements, their own victim impact statements. This is their first chance to directly address racism. Brian Coburger, the man who has been, well, he's now pleaded guilty to murdering these four students to tell them the impact he's had on their lives, to tell them the lives he took away and took from this world. But yes, they're also hoping to hear something from him. They all want to know what his motive was. And right now, no one knows.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah, we all remember the crime was shocking, horrific enough at the time. But you're looking for an answer like, what was going on? What was the relationship even to these kids? There was none, apparently, that we can all tell. But it was so horrific. And here we are three years later that the family is finally there won't be a trial. And some were relieved we don't have to have a trial.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And some were upset about it, and.

[TJ Holmes]

Some were upset, but this was supposed to be some type of finality, right? When people finally, when victims, families finally see the person who's responsible go to prison, the trial is over. It's supposed to be the end of it, it can never be over until they get this answer. How could they ever, ever rest in peace, quite frankly, until their families have some kind of finality and understanding about why this man did this?

[Ryan Seacrest]

That's right. One legal expert said today. Could be if we did hear from Brian Coburger and we did hear something, this could be what amounts to a legal funeral of sorts, where you actually do get closure and you do get answers and you can finally put all of those gnawing, nagging questions to bed. But let's just take you back to November 13, 2022, where Kaylee Goncale, Madison Mogan, Zanna Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were there in this off campus house. They were students there at the University of Idaho and they were stabbed to death at their residence in the middle of the night. There were two other roommates there that evening who managed to survive. And one of them actually did and was able to tell police that she saw a masked man walking through their apartment. Those two roommates may also speak today. There's some anticipation that they may get up and address Bryan Kohberger as well. Ultimately, DNA evidence from a sheath from the knife he used linked him directly to the crime. Along with the online purchase of that knife and the sheath, they had surveillance video of his vehicle in the area and his own cell phone pinged to that tower nearby, the site of the killing. So they had a lot of evidence and they were seeking, the prosecutors were seeking the death penalty and at least one family member, one family wanted to see him put to death. They didn't want him to have life in prison and they wanted a trial and they wanted answers. They were hoping information would come out in that trial.

[TJ Holmes]

That trial was going to happen up until a couple of months ago because up until a couple of months ago, he was still maintaining at least a not guilty plea in court and the trial was going to happen. They made an attempt in April at least to try to get the death penalty off the table. His defense lawyers did because he was recently diagnosed with, with autism, asd, autism spectrum disorder. And they made a case that, hey, because he has this, the Supreme Court is saying that this would amount to cruel and unusual punishment, the death penalty for someone who has this. Now, the judge rejected that, yes, he has whatever, autism now, but that is not going to stop the prosecution from seeking the death penalty. And then negotiations started with the prosecution about pleading guilty. And he is pled guilty, four life sentences, no possibility of parole. Now short of the death penalty, that is as tough of a sentence as you're going to get and it's not enough.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Some people want their day in court. And look, this was a bit of a surprise guilty plea to a lot of people. It happened on July 2, so just a couple weeks ago. And yes, he is going to prison for the rest of his life. But some family members are upset with prosecutors over the deal. They wanted input. They wanted to have a say in whether or not they were okay with that deal or not. So they were upset that they didn't get their day in court, which was supposed to be August 11th. And this trial was supposed to last for three months. This was going to be a very public spectacle, but they were hoping to get a lot of information out because there had been a gag order for the last two and a half years and investigators were barred from sharing information or releasing anything, not only to the public, but to the victims families as well. So they have been in the dark. I watched an interview with one of the families who said, we don't even know how many times our daughter was stabbed. We don't even know where she was stabbed. We don't know how long it took. They want to know these details. I know it sounds macabre, but when it's your child and you want to know, you want to know what happened to them and many of these families, they don't know specific. They know their child was stabbed to death. And that's it. That's where it begins and ends.

[TJ Holmes]

It's been three years, folks. And so much of what happens in, in trials, yes, prosecutors want to hold on to information, want to keep it out of the public. But when the trial comes, all that stuff comes out. We're not having a trial. So now we're wondering and they are pressing for prosecutors to start like immediately releasing this information so they could finally get some closure, maybe some finality with all this. But some families today do not want this to be happening. They don't want a sentencing hearing. They want information. They wanted a trial. They wanted the death penalty on the table. Can't take issue with either family with however they feel right now. But today is a very important day. He has an opportunity to speak. We don't know if he will.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes, and this is all happening at 11am Eastern Time. This is when the hearing is going to begin. And folks have been lined up, people camped out overnight, the public to try and get into this trial. There is tremendous public interest. They say there's at least 50 people deep waiting in line to get into that court and have Been for hours to see what happens to today. But this is going to be live streamed. There are reporters in the courtroom and we're certainly going to be following it. And this may be so extensive that it carries on until Thursday. So this could be a two day sentencing hearing because the judge wants to make sure every single person who wants to speak, who wants to address Brian Coburger gets the opportunity to. And apparently there are quite a few victim impact statements that the court is expecting.

[TJ Holmes]

I didn't see a list. Is there official count? I didn't see.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I didn't see it either. I just know that they, because it's just been. They've been expecting and some there I think the family, I believe the family of Ethan, he. They said they will not be there and you know that's, that's just such a personal decision whether you could even stand to be in that courtroom. And some people, some of the family members say, you know, wild horses couldn't hold them back. They will be there and they will be making statements.

[TJ Holmes]

Kohberger, I think he's been described, yes, he has autism. That was a recent diagnosis but he has been described in court and when he just a soft spoken. He doesn't seem to be a very outgoing individual. I don't know how much that has to do with the autism but the argument that that could have kept him from, from possibly getting the death penalty. The confusion, I say confusion, it's just he didn't know these kids. He was in school nearby. I think it was, I don't think it was more than the 20 mile plus distance he was from and I don't have that right. But he was close by. I mean he was going to another school. Why he knew them, why he showed up and why he did what he did. He attacked two of the students. I believe it was two women to the young ladies first. And, and authorities did come out at one point and say yes, it appears that he attacked and stabbed a couple of them while they were still asleep. So the two that were left there were two other housemates. One of them you mentioned saw him. I cannot imagine how they feel. And the answers now they want why were we spared? That is going to be with them the rest of their lives. So it is so key today this is important for these families to have an opportunity. But this is a huge moment for these families for the rest of their lives and how it's going to go. Is he going to choose to speak? Folks, we still, you remember that case. The first question, who is it? It took him six weeks to find him, by the way, before he was arrested.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[TJ Holmes]

Who is it? Why? So there's not even, I don't even see a lot of speculation, just making, why would he do this to four people he did not know?

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Right. He was a PhD student. So a smart kid. He might have been socially awkward and yes, recently diagnosed with autism, but nothing makes sense. And that's why so many people are so. I don't want to use the word fascinated, but perhaps it is a, it's a morbid curiosity because people always, you know, and look, oftentimes the why is never a good enough answer. I've learned this. I know you probably have too. Covering crimes for so many years, it's always the first thing families want to know and frankly, everyone wants to know why. And just oftentimes there isn't a good answer and sometimes there's never an answer and that's so hard to accept, a motive.

[TJ Holmes]

This is completely mind blowing. You remember how horrific it was at the time?

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Yeah.

[TJ Holmes]

When this happened, you're thinking, I mean, there were all kinds of theories about who could it be. You remember the police told people for a while, you know what, there's no threat to the public, you're cool. They came back later and said, you know what, Remember when we said that we're not sure.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah. They're like, this was a targeted attack. No one should be worried. Look, anyone, I mean, I have a daughter going back to school in a couple weeks. Every single parent who sends their child off to college, it's, it's such a scary time in life because you've been protecting them, you've been around them, you've been guiding them. You know where they are, when they're coming, when they're going. Suddenly they launch off to school. And, and so yes, every, this is every single parent's worst nightmare as they're sending their kids off to college. What if they're not safe? What if they're not protected? So for those police officers to say, hey, your kids are fine, there's no one on the loose. Yeah. It took six weeks. And he was actually arrested at his parents home in Pennsylvania.

[TJ Holmes]

Driven across the country. He had driven across the country home, I think. Did he drive with his dad?

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[TJ Holmes]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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Welcome back everyone to this edition of Amy and tj. We are focused on this sentencing hearing that is happening today. All eyes are on a courtroom in Idaho. Bryan Kohberger is going to be formally sentenced. He is going to be pleading guilty to four murder charges. The sentencing has already pretty much been determined. He's going to get four consecutive life sentences. He is going to prison for the rest of his life. But the big moment today could be if we hear from Brian specifically. Everyone wants to know why he committed these heinous crimes, stabbing these four innocent college students to death while they were sleeping in their off campus home. He's been linked to the attack, he's admitted to the murders and yet no one knows why they occurred.

[TJ Holmes]

Yeah, this is. I know you were just talking about a moment ago. Six of them, right? Six of them living in the house and you talk about folks in their kids off to college and just the idea. That's it. Exactly what Annelise experienced her first year school. How many were in that house.

[Ryan Seacrest]

7. She had seven kids in a house.

[TJ Holmes]

Coming up this year is going to be how many?

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think she's doing six, five. Five or six. But yes, it's a big house filled with kids. You feel like they're safe, safety in numbers. They're all. And there are boys and girls in the house. So that actually makes me feel safer to know she's got guys there. But that didn't protect these kids on that night from Brian Coburg.

[TJ Holmes]

Since sleep in the middle of the night going to a house people you don't know and kill them. Why? With just why, why, why, why, why? The. The family is desperate for this answer. And you were talking before we hopped onto that break that. Yeah. Even the president has chimed in on this. And robes. The president is having the same thought it seems the rest of us are having.

[Ryan Seacrest]

He certainly is. He has taken to truth social and he has put out several statements. But one of them, he said, I hope the judge makes Kohberger, at a minimum explain why he did these horrible murders. There are no explanations. There is no nothing. People were shocked that he was able to plea bargain, but the judge should make him explain what happened. I mean, that, I think would have maybe made some of these family members feel a little bit better if the deal had been struck between prosecutors and the defense. Okay, fine, you can plead guilty. We'll take the death penalty off the table. But we want you in open court to explain why you did what you did. I'm wondering why they didn't go that route.

[TJ Holmes]

You know what? Because maybe they didn't discuss it with the family ahead of time. Right. Did they get a say in this? Oftentimes this is the case. Prosecutors are good about this. And I'm not sure what they did in this particular instance, but that had to be something. You know, families would have insisted. This is a part of the plea deal. You got to speak.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

You got to tell us what's happening. Short of that, I don't believe the George can. The George. The judge can order him to do anything.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't think the judge can either. But I believe as a part of a deal, you absolutely could have that be a condition. And he could have taken it. It's too late or left it. And so I just. I really wonder why they didn't go that route. Because that's tough because a lot of legal experts will tell you because his sentencing has already been determined. He's already going to prison for the rest of his life. He really doesn't have an incentive to speak. There's no reason why he has to speak. And so they're not into rehabilitating him or even understanding him at this point. He really doesn't have to say one thing. And so people are saying there's a 50, 50 chance that he speaks. Well, okay, anybody could say that. But I don't know that anything he could say. Imagine I'm putting myself in the. In the shoes of those parents. I can't imagine there's anything he could say that would make me feel any better or have any more closure about what happened to my child. I do know that one of the girl's parents said if he said he was sorry, if he apologized, it would matter. It would make a difference. It would feel like they got something from him. But most folks are doubtful that is going to happen. But anything could happen. And again, this. We don't know at what point he gets the opportunity to speak or the judge will say, do you have anything to say?

[TJ Holmes]

It's right. It's the last thing right before the judge issues the sentence.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And so if you're looking at. And we're expecting quite a few people to get up and give these victim impact statements, and there has been some belief that this may go into day two, into tomorrow. So we may not even. He may not even get the chance to speak or not to speak until tomorrow. But this is certainly going to be interesting. And I mean, my heart's actually beating fast, imagining that anticipation or waiting to see or waiting to hear or wanting to know if he's going to tell me what happened to my child.

[TJ Holmes]

What was the one. I'm sorry. You said, they said, I'm sorry would be worth something.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[TJ Holmes]

I can't remember the trial we saw not too long ago where the. Oh, my goodness. I am getting. Oh, my God. I just got overcome with emotion thinking about it because you remember how messed up I was over it. It was the. The kid who was. Who had killed Poke. Was it? Where was it? And one of the mothers of the victim asked if she could go hug him.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[TJ Holmes]

And I saw that video. Oh, my God. I'm thinking about it now.

[Ryan Seacrest]

You have tears in your eyes worked.

[TJ Holmes]

Up about because that was such a powerful and emotional moment to see. So you never know. What works for one family might not work for another. What works for one dad might not work for the mom. What works for this in the same family either. You don't know how this day and what words could mean anything. These people had to live the rest of their lives without two 20 year olds and two 21 year olds. That's how young these kids were. Sleeping in the middle night and killed. So if I am, I don't know enough about his personality. I don't think there's been anything other than the murder that people come out and say he's some. He's been malicious, he's been vindictive, he's been, you know, some killers taunt.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[TJ Holmes]

The victim's family. He hasn't done that. But will he go quietly? What could he say? Robes. I did it because blank. And you're just gonna go. Whatever answer you give is probably gonna make you feel worse, like over that for that. There's no justification. There's nothing.

[Ryan Seacrest]

There's no justification for what happened to those four young, bright and budding students who were about to just go take on the world. It's just. It's so gutting and so incredibly sad and so perhaps, yeah. Anything short of an apology, I don't know any weight it would carry or any explanation yet. There is no explanation.

[TJ Holmes]

You know, prosecutors have asked you talk about him speaking to the family and saying something, but they filed a motion before today's hearing asking for a gag order on Kohberger be continued. Meaning he has been ordered not to try to contact the victim's families. They want that extended for about another hundred years. For whatever reason, they stuck that number in there, 99 years. But they don't want him any point ever to be allowed to torture this family.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes. And one of the family members spoke out and said that they're the reason why they wanted the death penalty and they wanted the trial is because they don't want him to have influence over anyone. They don't want him to have influence over other inmates. They said this is a BR person who is intelligent PhD student. They don't want him to have a healthy and a rewarding life inside of prison. I believe he said he considers what Kohberger is about to enter into is adult daycare. He said, that's not good enough for me. My daughter lost her life. He shouldn't get to go to adult daycare and be interacting with inmates, writing, reading. You know, he was even concerned he might write a book or do something. So a gag order, I think would certainly help the. The parents and the family members of these students feel a little bit better. You can understand that. You just wouldn't want this person who did what he did to have any influence over anybody ever again, whatever that may be, wherever that may be.

[TJ Holmes]

We shall see. Folks, if he does speak today, we will have our eye on the court out there and it is being live streamed. If you want to check it out yourself, there's several outlets. You can find it no problem where it's being live streams. But we'll keep an eye on today and we'll check back in with you when it warrants, which we assume it is going to warrant fairly soon. But for now folks, we appreciate you as always hanging with us. For my partner, Amy Robach, I'm TJ Holmes. We'll talk to y' all soon.

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