“So I Raped You”

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present – “So I Raped You”

Release Date: October 21, 2025
Hosts: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
Featured Topic: The twelve-year fight for justice by Shannon Keeler following her college rape and the eventual confession and sentencing of her attacker, Ian Cleary.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deeply into the case of Shannon Keeler, who was raped as a college freshman in 2013 and spent more than a decade pushing for justice. The case finally reached resolution only after her attacker, Ian Cleary, sent her a series of Facebook messages—including a direct written confession—years later. Amy and T.J. discuss the harrowing details of the crime, the obstacles Keeler faced from the justice system, and the troublingly short sentence finally handed down to her assailant.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction to the Case

• [03:04] T.J. sets the episode’s tone by highlighting the shocking fact that the case was solved not by authorities, but by the victim’s persistence and a Facebook confession:

  “It all came down to him making a confession on Facebook. And you know what it said? So I raped you.” (TJ Ropes, 03:27)

2. Chronology of Events: From Assault to (Delayed) Justice

• [03:45–05:45] Eva and T.J. recount the night of the assault at Gettysburg College in 2013:
  • Shannon Keeler and a friend encountered an aggressive man at a party.
  • Keeler took precautions, asked a friend to walk her home.
  • The assailant returned, entered her dorm, and raped her.
• [05:59–07:49] Immediate aftermath:
  • Keeler told friends, her parents, visited police, completed a rape kit, and provided evidence, including witness contact info.
  • Despite this, no arrest. Police cited alcohol involvement and framed the case as “he said, she said.”
• [08:31–09:17] Recurring barriers:
  • “She got pushed back, denied, denied, denied. Every time.” (TJ Ropes, 08:31)
  • Years later, Keeler received Facebook confessions, but law enforcement was slow to act.
• [09:17–10:01] The attacker, Ian Cleary, left school, moved to California, worked at Tesla, then to France—arrested for an unrelated minor offense—making his extradition possible 11 years post-rape.

3. Facebook Messages as Confession

• [22:48–24:40]
  • Keeler eventually checked her messages, finding multiple from Cleary over the years, including:
    • “So I raped you.”
    • “I’ll never do it to anyone ever again.”
    • “I need to hear your voice.”
    • “I’ll pray for you.”
  • These admissions were instrumental in finally building the case.
  • Eva highlights the sense that Cleary’s messaging was seeking personal relief or forgiveness, rather than accountability.

4. Victim-Blaming and Systemic Failure

• [07:49–08:31, 11:48–14:46]
  • Authorities implied that Keeler's drinking made prosecution difficult.
  • Despite DNA and witness evidence, police and prosecution refused to pursue the case for years.
  • Eva skewers the system:

    “This system let this young woman down. She had eyewitnesses, she had DNA. … They wouldn’t even consider bringing charges against this man.” (Eva Longoria, 14:18–14:46)

5. Judicial Response & Sentencing

• [10:01–11:48]
  • Cleary’s sentence: only 2–4 years for a crime committed 12 years before.
  • Both sides (defense and prosecution) asked for 4–6 years, but the judge reduced it, citing Cleary’s eventual confession and hope for forgiveness. Eva’s reaction:

    “For the judge to go a full two years less than what the defense was even asking, to me is offensive.” (Eva Longoria, 11:48)

6. Broader Implications: Justice, Survivor Burden, & Public Perception

• [12:56–15:11, 24:40–25:30, 26:54–27:37]
  • T.J. and Eva repeatedly stress that the justice system's failures discourage others from reporting:

    “This story does nothing, in my opinion, to help other women come forward.” (TJ Ropes, 28:55)

  • Keeler’s own words capture the cost for survivors:

    “While I am moved to tears by this result, I am mindful that this moment came because I went public with my story, which no survivor should have to do in order to obtain justice, period.” (Keeler quote, read by TJ Ropes, 26:54)

  • Eva mourns how untested rape kits and institutional indifference compounded the trauma:

    “That's what little importance my story was to them. My experience was to law enforcement.” (Eva Longoria, 28:22–28:55)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “So I raped you.” — Ian Cleary’s direct Facebook message and the episode’s namesake. (03:27; 16:19)
• “She did everything along the way. … But no arrest was made because they were telling her…alcohol.” (TJ Ropes, 07:18–07:49)
• “He denied it for years, left her twisting in the wind, unbelieved by a lot of people and probably feeling re-victimized for that decade plus by the system…” (Eva Longoria, 10:31)
• “I am mindful that this moment came because I went public with my story, which no survivor should have to do in order to obtain justice, period.” (Shannon Keeler, as read by TJ Ropes, 26:54)
• “This system let this young woman down. She had eyewitnesses, she had DNA…” (Eva Longoria, 14:18)
• “It’s as if we are only here today by the good deed of this man. That is offensive to the young lady.” (TJ Ropes, 12:56)
• “She pursued it, but when she found out … [police] destroyed her rape kit, but she was told it was never tested.” (Eva Longoria, 27:37–28:22)
• “You applaud what she did, but your heart breaks that she had to do it.” (TJ Ropes, 28:55)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:04–05:45] – Introduction of case details (night of the assault, Keeler’s immediate actions).
• [07:49–08:31] – Systematic failure after reporting, excuses by law enforcement.
• [10:01–11:48] – Sentencing of Ian Cleary and judge’s reasoning.
• [14:18–14:46] – Eva on prosecutorial reluctance, system criticism.
• [22:48–24:40] – Reading and discussion of Cleary’s full Facebook confession.
• [26:54] – Keeler’s statement about the price of justice as a survivor.
• [28:22–28:55] – Rape kit destruction and lack of investigation.

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Tone & Final Thought

Amy and T.J. discuss the story with respect, outrage, and sympathy for survivors of sexual assault, calling out the failures of law enforcement and the justice system while highlighting Shannon Keeler’s remarkable resolve. The episode’s tone is frank, empathetic, and critical—reflecting both frustration and admiration.

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Summary Takeaways

• The justice system often fails even “perfect” victims who do everything right.
• True accountability required relentless victim self-advocacy and media attention.
• A confession did not guarantee swift justice; systemic apathy persisted.
• Victim blaming and institutional inertia remain enormous barriers for rape survivors.
• Shannon Keeler’s ordeal underscores why most survivors remain silent, and why reforms and cultural change are urgently needed.

Transcript

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[TJ Ropes]

Hey, there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 21, and a man was just sentenced this week for a sexual assault he committed 12 years ago. And it took his victim doing her own investigation to get this crime solved. It all came down to him making a confession on Facebook. And you know what it said? So I raped you with that. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Ropes that's getting a lot of headlines. The fact that he wrote that message. It was on Facebook. But this is an awful story of a woman having to solve her own damn rape.

[Eva Longoria]

Well, here's the deal. She knew who her attacker was almost immediately. She did all the right things. She texted for help as it was happening. She had her friends come over right after it happened. She went to the police, had a rape case, and did everything a rape victim is supposed to do to prove her case. And even after her assailant sent her that message in 2019, it still took years before he was actually found arrested and held accountable.

[TJ Ropes]

Yeah, this story is wild. You just went through all those steps. It's exactly what they tell women to do. And it's also, anytime we do have a case, oftentimes that a defense will go after the fact. Well, why does she wait so long to report? Or why didn't she tell anybody immediately? And all of those things, we know those things come up. And this was a case where she did exactly, exactly what everyone would have told a woman in this position to do. And still it took this long. I think that's the right. You. You applaud her for what she did. But, man, it is sad that she had to do it.

[Eva Longoria]

I. I read through. I was not aware of this, but there have been news outlets, specifically the ap, the Associated Press, who has been following her story for years now. And they actually said it wasn't until they did a profiling, 2021, interviewing her about these Facebook messages, about the fact that she went back, sent them back to police, and it was weeks after they published that article that, voila, all of a sudden, an indictment showed up.

[TJ Ropes]

That's a shame.

[Eva Longoria]

That is a shame.

[TJ Ropes]

So we'll go back. This is 2013. This young lady, again, she's been out there and been outspoken about this. So we can speak on who she is, but her name is Shannon Keeler. Would you say she was 30 years old now?

[Eva Longoria]

30 years old.

[TJ Ropes]

Now, okay, but she was a freshman at Gettysburg College in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. Now, the incident she describes, that's that night she stuck to this story, but it was a rape in 2013 after she had gone to a party.

[Eva Longoria]

Yes. And this was all verified by multiple witnesses because there was another young woman with her who at first had been, I would say, approached by and bothered by this man, who they described as this creepy man at this party.

[TJ Ropes]

Right. They were dancing, but he was going a little too far and even grabbed the woman, groping her.

[Eva Longoria]

Yes. Grabbing her breasts, grabbing her butt, all of that. So she was going to this other woman, Shannon. They met at the party, kind of like, help me get away from this guy. What ended up happening was the guy who they described as the creepy man turned his attention and perhaps affection towards Shannon and actually followed her as they were leaving the party. She actually asked a male friend to walk her home because she was concerned about this guy who was following her. And he, according to the man who was. Or the friend who was walking her home, asked him to leave so that he could continue talking with her. And they said, go away, leave. So he left. But he showed back up. Once she got back into her dorm, he actually knocked on the door, rang.

[TJ Ropes]

The doorbell, and she said she saw him, and immediately just panic at the time. So sexual assault, rape takes place there. Did you read this detail? She said he cried.

[Eva Longoria]

Yes. Afterwards, he cried after he raped her.

[TJ Ropes]

Who knows what? That possibly. That's just an odd and almost sinister detail to hear. But he eventually leaves, leaves school, even. But she gets with her friends. She goes back and spends the night with them. But she did everything along the way. She told her parents, she went to police, she did the rape kit. She documented. She did everything. But. But no arrest was made because they were telling her, you hate to say it. Alcohol.

[Eva Longoria]

Alcohol was involved.

[TJ Ropes]

Alcohol.

[Eva Longoria]

She had been drinking at a party, and they had the rape kit. They actually had the dinna. She said she remembers the nurse saying, we got something. So she knows that they actually had physical evidence of what was left behind from a rape, assuming it was sperm, some sort of DNA from the assailant. And she thought, okay, I've done that part. But once they then went to police, they said, hey, there was alcohol involved. So this is a difficult situation. They reached out to this guy, reportedly, and by email, via email, he denied it. And so they were kind of like, well, it's a he said, she said, so there's nothing we can do.

[TJ Ropes]

That's. It's tough to hear those Details now, we're going to get more into that story in a second. But all of this, again, this was in 2013. She would send police updates of witnesses and the phone numbers. Even a friend, hey, this is somebody you could talk to. She got pushed back, denied, denied, denied. Every time. Then you go, like you said, ropes. I think it was 2019. The first messages started coming in. She got several Facebook messages. One of them was from him saying, so I raped you. She then takes those messages to police. She then does the profile with the Associated Press. Then they take this up Robes and they say, okay, yes, we're going to issue a warrant for his arrest, but where the hell is he?

[Eva Longoria]

They can't find him. Turns out this man, his name is Ian Cleary, by the way. He is 32 years old. He got, he went on to another college in his home state of California, graduated, got his master's degree, worked for Tesla, and he was overseas for whatever reason ultimately. And I never figured out, did you see what he was actually arrested for? Something completely different. Something that petty and minor. Yes. Nothing to do with anything violent. But because he was arrested in France, his name popped up and they were able to find him. In 2024, he was finally arrested. So we are talking 11 years after the rape.

[TJ Ropes]

So they finally get him back. He did plead guilty in July, but he was just sentenced this week. Sentenced to two to four years in jail. Two to four years for this assault. Again, he's been free for the past 12, but now he's going to get two to four years in prison. You were kind of, I guess it was a little head scratching, but they, to some, I guess it might be. But the, the judge did take into consideration that he did apologize and confess to what he had done, but he.

[Eva Longoria]

Denied it for years, left her twisting in the wind, unbelieved by a lot of people and probably feeling re. Victimized for that decade plus by the system, by the people who refused to prosecute. She says she remembers in 2015 there was a two year, I guess, window of opportunity charges. She remembers meeting with the detective or whoever was in charge of her case and he said, yes, sorry, we're done. And she still didn't let it go and was trying to move on when these Facebook messages came about. But here's the thing that actually really got to me, both sides, the defense and the prosecution. He was, well, he pleaded guilty. But when that guilty plea was put in, he. This were awaiting sentencing. Both sides asked for four to six years.

[TJ Ropes]

And yet the judge went lower. Look, they have discretion. And maybe he saw something in this man. Who knows? But the judge said this, and I don't know if you have a problem. You know what? Let me not set it up that way. This is just what he said. The defendant has admitted his guilt. He's come forward. And even though 10 to 11 alarming years have passed in the meantime, we wouldn't be here today but for his hope or some kind of forgiveness and contrition.

[Eva Longoria]

I think this woman had been through so much because of this man. He chose to do what he did. He chose to deny it. He chose to leave the country. And because his guilt was nagging on him, we're supposed to applaud him and we're supposed to give him some sort of leniency for that. Look, I think four to six years was the appropriate sentence that both sides agreed upon. So for the judge to go a full two years less than what the defense was even asking to me is offensive. It just is. And he mentioned, you know, I have daughters and granddaughters. And he mentioned the judge. Yes, he brought that into it. But I just can't stand behind that decision. As a woman, as a mother, I just don't think that. Because someone admitted something. And yes, I appreciate that. And four to six years still seems like not very many years, given what he did and what he was willing to do to somebody. I mean, he thought this out. This wasn't some random thing. Like he made choices each step of the way. Why should he not have to pay for his crime?

[TJ Ropes]

And he got 11 free years. Right? The judge had me up. Look, I am not in judgment. It's not my job to do. It's this judge's thing to do. And if I would have just heard two to four, like, okay, and gone on. But when he said that, we wouldn't be here today but for his hope for some kind of forgiveness and contrition. It's as if we are only here today by the good deed of this man. That is offensive to the young lady. It's offensive to a woman who. Sweetheart, there were a lot of hopes that we could have put on the police charging the guy, listening to her. We're acting as if the only option for this woman getting justice was this guy coming forward. No, that's not right.

[Eva Longoria]

He knew who he was. She knew who he was. DNA proved who he was.

[TJ Ropes]

I know you got to prove a case, but that one stings. For the victim to say, we're only here because he was a good enough guy.

[Eva Longoria]

Damn, that Stings, it really does. And it takes away any responsibility that the prosecution has. And look, a lot of folks now are looking at this case and even looking back, I understand from the outside looking in, I don't know what it's like internally to be in a DA's office and figure out what to prosecute, what not to prosecute. But I understand generally that rape is among, and sexual assault is among the hardest, are among the hardest cases to prove, period. I get that. But this system let this young woman down. She had eyewitnesses, she had DNA. She had so many things that they wouldn't even consider bringing charges against this man.

[TJ Ropes]

She did the work. I mean, she did her own. I mean, she handed it to him here. Guys, here he is. Here. Are you witnesses? Let's knock it out. Look, I'm not. I don't want to take on the challenge or take on what prosecutors and police have to do. That's a hell of a job. And I guess you don't have unlimited resources and people in the office. You can't do every case. It's just one of these things. How does this slip through the cracks?

[Eva Longoria]

Well, this is why only one in five, and I think that is a low number. Women who are sexually assaulted, specifically on college campuses, come forward because they understand this is what happens. She talked about how people, a detective even said to her, you're a pretty girl, you have your whole life in front of you. And it's just so offensive that even if they are believed, and I'm not saying no one didn't believe her, it was just they were thinking it was probably going to be too hard to prove. And I don't know, is that, is that where we are?

[TJ Ropes]

There are challenges. They have to put their resources here or there. They're limited. I don't know, it seems like this would be a priority, but again, we're on the outside, we don't know what they have to do. But. But folks, we told you about the one message that's getting the headline that he sent her on Facebook that said, so I raped you. But there were several more. Stay here. We'll tell you what those other messages said. And also we are going to let you hear what the victim in this case, Ms. Keeler, said herself about why we even got to this.

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I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.

[TJ Ropes]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

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That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

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[Eva Longoria]

We continue our conversation today about this unbelievable case. Although it is all too common, unfortunately, this one does at least have an ending where there is some justice, but perhaps not enough. And it certainly came a decade beyond when it should have at this point. But 32 year old Ian clearly sentenced this week to two to four years in prison for sexually assaulting then college freshman. Her name was Shannon Keillor. She is now 30 years old and she has spent the better part of a decade trying to prove what happened to her, in fact happened to her. And it took him actually reaching out via Facebook admitting it. And even after that admission, it still took another four to five years for him to actually have his day in court and her day in court, perhaps even more importantly. And that happened this week. We talked about one of the messages he sent her. So I raped you. But that wasn't the only thing that Ian clearly wrote to her.

[TJ Ropes]

Did I see, right, that she hadn't checked her Facebook messages and he had sent these over the course of a couple of years, but she got them all at one time. Did I see that right?

[Eva Longoria]

Yes. That's the way I understood it, too. She was on vacation with her boyfriend. You know, you never check your DMs. I actually probably do it. I know you've. I don't think you've ever checked your DMs. I probably only check mine maybe once every couple months. She's doing it every couple of years. I get that. It's a lot to keep up with.

[TJ Ropes]

Yes. So she sees several of these messages. Another said, I'll never do it to anyone ever again. That's his. That's a hell of a confession, is it not?

[Eva Longoria]

He's basically wanting to admit to her because he's. I mean, I can only get inside his head imagining the only reason why you would do this is to relieve yourself of some sort of guilt you're feeling for getting away with it, so to speak. But you're also trying to get her not to pursue charges or not to use this against you by telling her, please, please, I won't do it again. Like, don't turn me in, but I won't do it again. But I want you to know that I'm acknowledging it, and I'm sorry for it.

[TJ Ropes]

But do you think that's gonna go by putting it in a Facebook message? I mean, how do you think this is gonna go?

[Eva Longoria]

He'd gotten away for.

[TJ Ropes]

With it for so long, he's writing confession. You know what? He sent them to her, and he didn't hear back from her for years. Maybe he forgot about it. Another message, I need to hear your voice. I don't know what that was about, but that's another one she got. And then another one on Facebook from the guy who raped her when she was a freshman in college, saying, I'll pray for you. And that was the series of messages they were able to then trace back to him. They confirmed, at least went forward with charges. Still, they had to track him down. Finally got back here charged this week after 12 years, essentially.

[Eva Longoria]

But the point being, crazy enough, when she sends and gives the police these Facebook messages, they went through the whole thing. Well, we'd have to track down the IP address, and it doesn't even look like he lives in the country anymore. I mean, they were dragging their feet. They were almost like, ugh, paperwork. Haven't you put this to bed already? And really, truly, it wasn't until the AP published her story that things actually started to move forward.

[TJ Ropes]

How many folks may be listening, maybe gone through that or know somebody who had the same experience of trying to get somebody or maybe somebody in law enforcement to believe them, to listen to what they're saying. That's tough. But a story like this, why would you go for. I know this is one police department, but. Right.

[Eva Longoria]

It makes me feel so. I mean, look, you have daughters. I think about Annelise, who's 19 years old, and that's about the age of this young woman. She might have even been younger. Eight freshmen, first semester. She was probably 18 years old. And I just think about. She described who she was before that date in December. This excited, happy, go lucky lacrosse player she was. She had her whole life in front of her, and she still does. But what she thought of the world, how she viewed the world, was all robbed and taken from her in that moment, in that horrific hour. And the fact that no one stood up for her, no one defended her, no one looked out for other women who he could have come into contact with over a decade. I think about the fact that, okay, as far as we know, no one else has come forward, but the fact that he actually went after two different women that same night because her friend has spoken out about her experience with this man grabbing her.

[TJ Ropes]

He assaulted two women that night, Actually, yes.

[Eva Longoria]

It's hard to imagine. And perhaps maybe the guilt of doing it made him stop, but it's hard to imagine that he just suddenly became this kind person who stopped assaulting women. I don't know, but we don't know what he did during those 12 years. It really hasn't been explained at all to anybody. And I don't even know. I couldn't even find out why he had been arrested in France in the first place.

[TJ Ropes]

And while the arrest did come, as we say, robe so late, when it did happen, Shannon Keiller had a quote here that kind of sums it all up at the time. She said, while I am moved to tears by this result, which I have waited for over seven years at the time for, I am mindful that this moment came because I went public with my story, which no survivor should have to do in order to obtain justice, period. That. I mean, T shirts should be printed with that on it. That is it. Nobody should have to do this. Just get justice.

[Eva Longoria]

And babe, the other thing I wanted to point out because this was also egregious to me when I was reading the whole story behind this poor young woman who I have to applaud, what an amazing person to never give up, to keep fighting because it's exhausting. And I can see when you just say I want to go away, I want to put this to bed, it is what it is. I'm done thinking about it. She pursued it, but when she found out after she gets these messages, goes to police and says, hey look, he's admitting it. Like imagine the validation and vindication you would feel in that moment. And then to find out that they not only destroyed her rape kit, but she was told it was never tested. So here she is thinking this whole time she's got this DNA proof that at the very least there was sexual intercourse. I mean, I know you can't prove force necessarily with just the DNA evidence, but at least you can prove that sexual and sexual encounter happened and you can say it was against your will. She believes that it was never, but that, that she's just saying that's how little I was regarded. That's how, that's what little importance my story was to them. My experience was to law enforcement. That is a sad, sad statement to any woman out there who feels like they can turn to police when they're assaulted or justice.

[TJ Ropes]

This is a tough story. You applaud what she did, but your heart breaks that she had to do it. This is great that she's getting justice. She should not have gone through this. And this story does nothing, in my opinion to help other women come forward.

[Eva Longoria]

No, it doesn't. This is and the judge giving him two years less than the defense was even asking for because he was such a good guy for admitting he raped a woman. I have a major problem with that as well. It was, I just feel like this woman just. I'm so happy that he is behind bars. I am so happy for her that she got some bit of justice, but it's still appalling.

[TJ Ropes]

All right, well folks, we, this was one that jumped out at us so we thought you'd be interested as well. So wanted to, wanted to share but as always, we appreciate you listening with us on DJ Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy Robach, we'll talk to you soon.

[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of Girls came forward with a story.

[TJ Ropes]

America, y' all better wake the hell up.

[Unidentified Narrator (possibly a true crime or investigative podcast host)]

Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Ana Ortiz]

Sami Gente. It's Ana Ortiz.

[Ed Helms]

And I'm Mark and Delicato.

[Ana Ortiz]

You might know us as Hilda and.

[Ed Helms]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Ana Ortiz]

Welcome to our new podcast, Viva Betty.

[Eva Longoria]

Yay.

[Ana Ortiz]

We're rewatching the series from start to.

[Ed Helms]

Finish and talking to iconic guests like Betty herself, America Ferreira.

[Ana Ortiz]

There was this moment when the glasses went on and it was like, this is our Betty.

[Ed Helms]

Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unidentified Narrator (possibly a crime podcast host)]

In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Unidentified Narrator (possibly a true crime or investigative podcast host)]

Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Eva Longoria]

Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?

[Unidentified Narrator (possibly a true crime or investigative podcast host)]

Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

[Unidentified Narrator (possibly a crime podcast host)]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Eva Longoria]

I'm Eva Longoria.

[Maite Gomez Rejuan]

And I'm Maitha Gomez Rejan. And this week on our podcast, Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus, the Miami chief stops by.

[Unidentified Narrator (possibly a true crime or investigative podcast host)]

If you're not an oyster lover, don't.

[Eva Longoria]

Even talk to me.

[Maite Gomez Rejuan]

Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.

[Eva Longoria]

No way. Bring back the Ostercon. Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Maite Gomez Rejuan]

Hey, guys, it's Stephanie, Beatriz and Melissa Fumero. And this is more better.

[Eva Longoria]

We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice. And hot takes. God sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies?

[Maite Gomez Rejuan]

Yeah, all the things.

[Eva Longoria]

Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.