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It is Monday, December 1st, and it was day one in the trial of Brian Walsh, the man who admits he cut up and disposed of his wife's body but says he didn't kill her. We got opening statements today and we finally heard how he plans to defend himself. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robe that's been the most intriguing part. Guy says he admitted last week. Right. When the day one jury selection pleaded guilty to dismembering and disposing of her body, but says he didn't kill him.
Rose
Yes.
T.J. Holmes
Couldn't wait to hear how he was going to do this.
Rose
Exactly. And getting to hear his defense in combination with getting to hear hours of his police interview where he was clearly lying through his teeth because he's admitted that he knew where her body was while he's trying to act like he has no idea where his wife is to police. So that was fascinating. But perhaps I would say the most interesting part of all, we haven't had access to a courtroom like this for a while. In a case like this, there are cameras in the courtroom. You can watch this trial starting at 9am Eastern time all day long on Court TV.
T.J. Holmes
And there's something, and you're right, we obviously a couple of high profile trials recently, Diddy in particular, no cameras, no nothing in there. But we get to see this man that has admitted to taking a hacksaw to his wife's body. There is something robes about that and being able to see him in court. Now the other part that's I'm not sure if you heard the clanging. He's coming in and out in handcuffs. So he, the way they have the mics set up in there, you hear just like just shackles. You just, it's loud, there's clanking and there's just something eerie about how kind of it kind of happened today. And to your point as well, man, it was creepy to hear him cool and calm as a cucumber talking to police who are asking about his wife. He knows good and hell well what he's done with her body. He never raised his voice. The only time he got animated Robe was when he laughed. Yeah.
Rose
He was joking around with the officers as his wife is presumably missing. I think it's fascinating because usually when we hear a police interview with a suspect who's now on trial for murder, they're denying any involvement. Right. But in this Trial in this case, the jurors are listening to him lie to police as calm and as coolly as one could be. That was eerie to me. I just was taken aback at how comfortable he was. Completely lying.
T.J. Holmes
I mean that has to make it. You have to wonder if that makes an impression on. Their first impression of him is now this. They haven't heard his voice, they haven't heard him speak. He is as calm as anything on these and you know the other part of those. This wasn't supposed to be the highlight of what we plan on talking about now but it obviously it made an impression on us. The kids.
Rose
Yes.
T.J. Holmes
You hear these. What were they? 2, 4 and 6.
Rose
Yeah.
T.J. Holmes
At the time babies mom disappear. Well these kids are, I mean they're acting like children.
Rose
They're fighting amongst themselves. You know, dad, Thomas just said the F word. Like all these kinds of things that would be happening in a normal house around the holidays. This is just at the first of the years. They're probably playing with their Christmas toys. No idea that their mom is dead and their dad is accused of murder or soon would be and they would be essentially orphaned within days.
T.J. Holmes
We are talking about here, you've. If you haven't yet, you will be hearing plenty about this case. It is extraordinary out of Massachusetts this man, Brian Walsh, charged with first degree murder, accused of beating and killing his wife and then dismembering and disposing of her body. This was January 1st of 2023. She has not been seen by anybody since then. He has now pleaded guilty to dismembering her body and lying to police. He has already pled guilty. Guilty to that. However robes that threw everybody off last week when he went ahead and did so. And we were wondering how he's going to defend himself, what his defense is going to be, how's he going to explain this? We will get into that. But the mom and Walsh is who we're talking about. Robed, a 39 year old mother of three.
Rose
Yeah. Anna Walsh last seen at a New Year's Eve party or a dinner, so to speak. They had a friend over. So she was seen up until 1:30 in the morning seemingly happy and fine. And when she didn't show up to work eventually, it was her co workers who notified police on January 4 that she was missing. It was not her husband who reported her missing, it was her co workers.
T.J. Holmes
Obviously that was a part of one of the details of this story. Like you haven't talked to your wife in three days and you're not Concerned.
Rose
And when we're listening to him talk to police, it was interesting how he would mess up basically because he said, you know, if, if she was gonna be 10 minutes late, I would freak out. Well, if that were true, if Your wife was 10 minutes late and he would freak out when she is missing for four days and you don't call police, those two things do not jibe together.
T.J. Holmes
You remember at that point when he said it, he called himself almost and realized he said, well, yeah, I mean, you know, you know, I talked to him in the morning and at night he kind of, he danced around a lot. But you had. He was a cool customer. He wasn't stuttering around. He didn't necessarily sound like a guy. He was putting lies together.
Rose
No. And by. Anna Walsh's body has never been found. And so that is going to be this difficult part for the prosecution. Even though they have a tremendous amount of evidence which we will get into. We already saw and heard a lot of it today, at least in the opening statements. It was laid out what we will be getting. But you don't have a body, so you cannot say how she died, you cannot say technically when she died. And that makes it difficult because now you don't really have any forensic DNA tying a murderer to the body. So those things all make it difficult. It's not impossible, but certainly makes it more difficult for prosecutors when there is no body.
T.J. Holmes
They always say jurors, they want two. They don't have to have it, but they want two things. They want a body and they want a motive. Don't have to have them, but they really is something they have to overcome. Now, we started the day today, didn't get started with testimony until about 10am they got in the court around 9 o'. Clock. Judge brought the attorneys in, they went through some motions, went through some rules, brought in the jury. She gave kind of a jury 101 jury trial 101 to these jurors. Hadn't seen that before, but maybe a lot of folks did find that helpful. Now the prosecution started with their opening statement and Rose, we need to say this name because people need to know it throughout the William Fastow. William Fastow. You're going to hear his name because he's a centerpiece and he is going to be a big time a witness on that stand. He was the guy who was involved in an affair with Brian Walsh's now deceased wife.
Rose
Yes. So Anna Walsh was having an affair with William Fastow and that will be a part of the prosecution's Evidence about motive and what led to Ana's murder. Now the defense is claiming that Brian didn't know about this affair, so it couldn't be a motive for killing her. But the prosecution says, wow, these Internet searches, so far, what we've heard about these Internet searches on Brian Walsh's computer are pretty damning. And they claim they have searches from his cell phone and the fact that he looked up the name William Fastow.
T.J. Holmes
We've been covering the story and I know some stuff had gotten out with some of the searches. Had you seen this extensive of a list? No, some of these I have not.
Rose
So part of what. And we have an episode before, there's a few episodes back, I've lost count. But we went into this case because it is so fascinating and we knew during jury selection this trial would be starting December 1st. So we found a couple of the searches, the Google searches that they found on some of the devices in Brian Walsh's house right around the time of Ana's disappearance. And they were damning, but man, these are, even if it's possible, more damning. They're extraordinary.
T.J. Holmes
So this is January 1st, and we have several to go through. And they, they say they have more, but these are the searches they found again on his computer and on his phone. So starting at 4:54am, this is January 1st. At this point, police believe, authorities believe Anna Walsh is dead.
Rose
Yes. She was last seen by someone else at 1:30am so now fast forward three.
T.J. Holmes
And a half hours later, at 4:54am, he searches, quote, best way to dispose of a body. Now, Rose, that is damning. It's circumstantial.
Rose
Correct.
T.J. Holmes
Is that enough to put some folks over the top? If you don't have a body, if you don't have a mode of death, any. The one I just read. Oh, that's. That's even. That's one of the light ones compared to.
Rose
Yeah, that builds a foundation. I will say that builds a foundation towards suspicion and ulcer, ultimately, potentially guilt. So about a half an hour later, the search is how long for someone missing to inherit. Wow. How about that for a motive? Next search. Can you throw away body parts? How long missing to be dead? How long does DNA last? Is it possible to clean DNA off a knife?
T.J. Holmes
Jesus.
Rose
Best way to dispose of body parts after a murder.
T.J. Holmes
That's a tough one.
Rose
Robes, he wrote murder.
T.J. Holmes
That's a tough one.
Rose
That's a tough one because when you hear what the defense is defending, that is a search that is going to be difficult.
T.J. Holmes
That one's gonna come back.
Rose
The jury is going to remember that search. Best way to dispose of body parts after a murder. He also looked up articles about whether it is better to throw away crime scene clothes or wash them.
T.J. Holmes
This is tough stuff.
Rose
It goes on to. Then the searches get more specific. How to saw a body, how to dismember a body. Then a question. Can you be charged with murder without a body? And for whatever reason, this last one really bothered me. I don't know why with all that heinousness, can you identify a body with broken teeth? That would tell me he punched her in the face so hard that her teeth broke or he was going to go back after the fact and break her teeth. Jesus.
T.J. Holmes
This is. I don't know how you explain any of this away now this idea of reasonable doubt does this. I don't think it's reasonable. I don't think it's a reasonable doubt at this point. If you see all of this, obviously this dude had to be as a juror. How could. Obviously. What else was he doing?
Rose
And it's not like there was anyone else in the house who could have typed in those searches because that's usually what people will say. You can't prove I was the one to type in these searches. At that home, at that hour, you had a two year old, a four year old and a six year old asleep. Asleep. But even if they were awake, okay, there's absolutely zero chance that anyone will believe this was even a possibility.
T.J. Holmes
So the closest we get robes or maybe the prosecution could get to how she died was this. I mean, knife was in the knife.
Rose
They used and murder.
T.J. Holmes
Man, that is tough stuff. Now again from the opening statement, they had say this is pretty damning as well. They have surveillance video of him at several stores. These stores are gonna hate being associated with this story. Now. Walgreens, cvs, Lowe's, Stop and Shop, Home Goods. He was at Home Goods. Ropes, he got candles, scented candles and area rugs at Home Goods. But his whole shopping list included band aids, stuff for first aid, hydrogen peroxide, ammonia, cutting shears, hacksaw, mop buckets, all of that.
Rose
Wasn't there also a Tyvek suit?
T.J. Holmes
There was, yes.
Rose
Because that is just something everyone needs, you know, on New Year's Day to clean up after that crazy party you just had.
T.J. Holmes
Hey, it gets nasty.
Rose
That one really stood out to me.
T.J. Holmes
This, and this was one they were explaining as well where he had. He had switched phones with his son, so it looked like his phone was staying in one spot. He actually had his.
Rose
Did he not think they were gonna also track all the phones in the house?
T.J. Holmes
And they put it all together and of course that's part of the story was they had surveillance video of a figure that fit the description of Brian.
Rose
Walsh wearing a mask.
T.J. Holmes
Yeah. Dumping stuff in a dumpster that wasn't too far from his mom's home. They went back and recovered that bag. And it was all his wife's stuff. What was it? Right.
Rose
Prada bag, specific kind of boots and her COVID 19 vaccination card.
T.J. Holmes
What's all in there? So that's all the evidence. That's just in the opening statement. We kind of had an idea of their case, but they got into a few more specifics. Now, how on God's green earth do you defend your client against all of that? Well, stay here. We'll tell you what the defense had to say. And they came out strong. Weight loss is easy when you have the right prescription. At Gimme Care, you can Access physician prescribed GLP1 treatment for just $130 a month. That's the same price at all doses.
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10. Continuing now Day one in the trial, Day one of testimony in the trial of Brian Walsh, accused of first degree murder and the death of Anna Walsh, his wife, whose body has never been found. He has admitted to cutting her body up. He has admitted to disposing of her body, but says he did not kill her. Now robes the first words. When the defense, his defense attorney, this guy Larry Tipton got up, I knew immediately, okay, we, we're gonna, we got.
Rose
One. You said he's a good.
T.J. Holmes
One. We got a star in the courtroom. He was completely, he was animated. He spoke extemporaneously. And I always impressed with that. He kind of paced back and forth, hands in his pocket, head down. At times. He started with that line, brian Walsh lied to authorities. And he almost screamed in the courtroom and said several times Brian Walsh lied on this day. Brian Walsh lied on this day. So they immediately kind of just admitted that this guy lied.
Rose
Throughout. Now what, you know what that reminds me of Diddy's lawyers saying was, did he abuse women? Yes. Was he a domestic violence perpetrator? Yes. He was like, we'll fully admit that. So basically the video and all the scary things that, you know, you're going to see and certainly all of the, you know, the evidence the prosecution is going to provide, we, we already admit to.
T.J. Holmes
That.
Rose
Yes. So you kind of take it off the table. No one's denying this softening.
T.J. Holmes
Impact. Now we talked about the, those, his searches starting at 454 and the attorney addressed it. Yes. What happened at 454? What they're explaining robes was a frantic and tragic search that you'll hear about. Now. They go on to explain his wife is dead. He couldn't believe it had happened. And so all of those searches, Robes, they're explaining as a man who was. Whose wife just died on him. Suddenly he panicked. And that's how they're going to explain.
Rose
It? Yes. So you say wife died suddenly and he panic. How did said wife die.
T.J. Holmes
Suddenly? No one knows.
Rose
That. He says that he went upstairs after partying for New Year's, went back down an hour later to clean the kitchen, and when he returned to the bedroom and she was dead. And so they said he nudged her so violently that he pushed her off the bed. So that meant, you know, I don't know why they needed to say.
T.J. Holmes
That. Well, they would try. He was getting into the detail and that. And they explained it this way. He walked into the room, he could just sense something was off. He was expecting to just get in bed, go to bed, thought she was asleep, since something was off. So he just nudged her, try to say hello once. Nothing. Nudged her again. Then he starts getting worried and starts shaking her and she falls off the bed. They were explaining. That's when panic essentially started for.
Rose
Him. So he panicked, apparently. And he said that they believe that this sudden explained death could be a mechanical or an electrical issue in her body. They say it happens to people who are old, young men, women, and it just can happen. They say it's known in the medical community, but it's not well known to the rest of us. So they're just saying she died inexplicably and suddenly. Suddenly. And he was afraid he would be.
T.J. Holmes
Implicated. Yes, because he went on to explain they had the concern for their sons and they were setting all of their life insurance up for the boys and all this investment in the future they were making. And his concern was, if anything, someone thought that he did something to his wife. What is going to happen to those boys? And this, according his attorney, was his attempt to. I think he used the word hang on to those.
Rose
Boys. So the affair, the defense. So the. It was the. It was the defense or it was the prosecution that said, an affair does not make someone a bad person or a bad.
T.J. Holmes
Mother. It was the.
Rose
Defense. That's why I was confused, because when I heard them say that, I thought, wait, is that the defense saying.
T.J. Holmes
That they are making a point? I mean, not making her into a bad person at all. So that he. That came out of his mouth does not make someone a bad person or a Bad mother. And they still say he didn't know. So that is not a motive he can have for wanting to kill his wife. He didn't know she was having the affair, according to.
Rose
Them. Now we are going to hear, as you said earlier before the break, from the man who Ana Walsh was having an affair with. He is going to provide testimony at this trial that is going to be a remarkable day in.
T.J. Holmes
Court. I believe three Thursday is what they're anticipating with the schedule at this point. Look, tomorrow now is setting up, and they're expecting this to go two or three weeks, but this is setting up now tomorrow. There was only one witness who was on the stand, and that was the lead investigator. And most of the time he was up there was spent with us listening to those police.
Rose
Interrogations. Well, they weren't even interrogations at that point. They were just there saying, hey, we're going to help you find your missing wife. But to now know he's admitted and already pleaded guilty to knowing exactly where his wife was, to knowing that he had cut her up and thrown her body in dumpsters, to hear him blatantly lying to police for hours, that's.
T.J. Holmes
Tough. He's cold. He is cool. He doesn't sound. You know what? He would never sound menacing to you. But now hearing it and understanding what he had done done, to hear him this way.
Rose
Is. It would make me feel like there's no way I could believe anything this man says, because he's very convincing. He seems concerned, but he didn't seem like he wasn't nervous. So if he was able to regulate himself, knowing what he just had done, that would make me feel like I couldn't believe anything that came out of his mouth. That's just my sense as a.
T.J. Holmes
Juror. But that is a good point. He is now.
Rose
Disqualified. Yeah. How could you trust anything when you are literally. And he is admitting that you are listening to him calmly, coolly and expertly lie to police expertly. And he. And to me, when I was listening to him, he sounded like a nice guy next door. Now, he did admit to police that he did have some legal issues with some art issues. There's a whole other side to him where he was actually about to go to prison and he was under house arrest when this all went down. So obviously learning that he had been convicted criminally of something, you know, would have been, you know, certainly something that raised an eyebrow for police. But just listening to him, just talking to the guy, just being around him, hearing his kids in the background, a father of three you he didn't seem menacing at all. Which makes it all the.
T.J. Holmes
Scarier. Well folks, this is one we are going to keep a very close eye on on your Apple podcast app. The top right corner there with our show page says follow hit that and you can get these updates. We will be doing this and keeping an eye on this every day and giving updates every day. This is going to be an explosive, explosive trial with the possibility, bro. I cannot wait to hear how with the prosecution, how they lay out a case for how she died, how they think she died and how they could know at all. It's amazing. Not a trace of this woman since January 1, 2023. Wow. All right, so folks, trial continues tomorrow. Might be cut short. We got some weather here in the northeast so they acknowledge this that trial in Massachusetts. So we're keeping an eye there as well. But folks, we always appreciate you spending some time with us. For my dear amy Robach, I'm T.J. holmes. We will talk to you all soon. Weight loss is easy when you have the right prescription. At GIMI Care, you can Access physician prescribed GLP1 treatment for just $130 a month. That's the same price at all.
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Hosts: T.J. Holmes, Amy Robach, with Rose
Episode Date: December 1, 2025
Description: Day one coverage of the Brian Walshe murder trial. Brian admits to dismembering and disposing of his wife's body, but claims he did not kill her. The episode dives into courtroom proceedings, defense and prosecution strategies, and key moments from day one.
The episode centers on the dramatic first day of the Brian Walshe trial, a case that has attracted national attention due to Walshe’s admission of dismembering his wife’s body while denying responsibility for her killing. The hosts break down the prosecution's evidence, the defense's strategy, and the haunting atmosphere of the courtroom, giving listeners an inside look at high-profile true crime in real time.
Quote:
“There is something, Robes, about that and being able to see him in court… you hear just like just shackles. You just, it's loud, there's clanking and there's just something eerie about how kind of it kind of happened today.”
— T.J. Holmes, 04:06
Quote:
“It was eerie to me. I just was taken aback at how comfortable he was. Completely lying.”
— Rose, 05:05
Quote:
“No idea that their mom is dead and their dad is accused of murder or soon would be and they would be essentially orphaned within days.”
— Rose, 06:07
Quote:
"You haven't talked to your wife in three days and you're not concerned?"
— T.J. Holmes, 07:44
Quote:
“Best way to dispose of body parts after a murder. He also looked up articles about whether it is better to throw away crime scene clothes or wash them.”
— Rose, 13:15
“That one's gonna come back. The jury is going to remember that search.”
— T.J. Holmes, 13:00
Quote:
“Brian Walsh lied to authorities. And he almost screamed in the courtroom and said several times Brian Walsh lied on this day. Brian Walsh lied on this day. So they immediately kind of just admitted that this guy lied.”
— T.J. Holmes, 20:24
Quote:
“He sounded like a nice guy next door. Now, he did admit to police that he did have some legal issues...but just listening to him, just talking to the guy, just being around him, hearing his kids in the background, a father of three… he didn't seem menacing at all. Which makes it all the scarier.”
— Rose, 26:17
On the Internet searches:
“Best way to dispose of body parts after a murder…when you hear what the defense is defending, that is a search that is going to be difficult.”
— Rose, 12:44
About the jury’s perception:
“If you see all of this, obviously this dude…How could—obviously. What else was he doing?”
— T.J. Holmes, 13:54
On the defense’s frankness:
“He kind of paced back and forth, hands in his pocket, head down. At times. He started with that line, Brian Walsh lied to authorities. And he almost screamed in the courtroom.”
— T.J. Holmes, 19:55
The hosts guide the listener through the day’s dramatic testimony and argument, starting with the haunting specifics of courtroom proceedings, moving through the prosecution’s damning circumstantial evidence, then unpacking the defense’s unconventional but necessary admissions. Brian Walshe’s disturbing calm and the heart-wrenching collateral tragedy for his children underscore the human suffering behind the headlines. The episode conveys the intensity and high stakes of a case where the horror lies as much in the details withheld as those plainly stated.
This coverage offers a comprehensive, emotionally honest overview of the first day in a major murder trial, with deep dives into courtroom strategies, evidence, and the complex psychology of those involved. The powerful, plainspoken reactions from the hosts anchor the listener in both the facts and the chilling emotional reality of the case.