The Brian Walshe Trial: Our Legal Expert Says The Prosecution is Moving Too Fast and Missing Way Too Much

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Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present

Episode: The Brian Walshe Trial: Our Legal Expert Says The Prosecution is Moving Too Fast and Missing Way Too Much
Date: December 8, 2025
Host: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes
Guest: Alison Treason (Criminal Defense Attorney, Legal Expert)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes revisit the ongoing Brian Walshe murder trial with legal analyst and criminal defense attorney Alison Treason. The focus is on the prosecution's strategy and perceived shortcomings, key moments in the first week of trial, the defense’s handling of the case, and implications for proving intent in the absence of a body.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Reaction: Prosecution Moves Too Fast

• Alison Treason criticizes the prosecution for moving faster than necessary and missing critical points that could bolster their case.
• She identifies three big questions for the week: the former lover’s testimony, the medical examiner’s testimony and cross-examination, and how the prosecution is dealing with the lack of a body or clear cause of death.
• Quote: "Unless I see more and a lot more, I think they missed a lot of key points. I think that they could have done a lot more with the medical examiner that they had on the stand." – Alison (03:23)

2. Defense Turns Weak Case into Early Victory

• Both Amy and T.J. express surprise—the defense is outperforming expectations and successfully creating reasonable doubt, largely due to prosecution’s missed opportunities.
• Alison emphasizes this isn’t a case a defense attorney wants to try—unless there is no plea offer—calling it a “very bad case” but the prosecution’s missteps are helping the defense.
• Quote: "From what I saw from the coroner and the medical examiner, the defense attorney owned him." – Alison (05:51)

3. Premeditation & Motive Obstacles

• Amy raises the challenge of proving premeditation and motive for first-degree murder in light of the evidence (or lack thereof) regarding Brian’s knowledge of his wife’s affair.
• The prosecution failed to press on why Brian called the wife's lover (Fausto) and didn’t focus on evidence (like what Anna was wearing) to challenge the defense’s scenario.
• Quote: "Why is Brian Walsh calling him on January 4th and saying, where is my wife?... That would show that Brian Walsh knew exactly who he was. Knew exactly who he was." – Alison (07:59)

4. Prosecution Misses Redirection Opportunities

• Both the hosts and Alison highlight how the prosecution failed to counter effective defense cross-examination, especially regarding the affair as motive and Brian’s knowledge of it.
• Alison calls out the missed opportunity on redirect after the lover testified Brian didn’t seem to know about the affair—prosecution should have probed further to prevent creating doubt.
• Quote: "That, to me, was a moment for the defense. A clear victory for the defense." – Amy (11:41)

5. Medical Examiner Testimony: A Lost Chance

• Alison critiques the prosecution for not highlighting how rare unexplained death is (in a healthy individual), missing the gravity of expert testimony that could help eliminate reasonable alternative explanations.
• Quote: "I would have spent double the amount of time saying how uncommon it is… I just don't know why they're rushing." – Alison (14:57)

6. Strategic Legal Questions

• Should the jury hear about Brian’s previous guilty pleas? Alison explains it may depend on whether Brian testifies (“opens the door”), noting the judge is still undecided.
• There’s criticism of the prosecution for the decision to allow guilty pleas before trial, potentially limiting their case and confused jury perception.
• Quote: "The jury shouldn't be left with a question of, well, what happened here." – Alison (19:48)

7. Why No Lesser Charges?

• Amy and Alison discuss the high-risk “all or nothing” approach: the prosecution only charged first-degree murder, not including options like second-degree or manslaughter, which could make conviction harder in light of the weak evidence for intent.
• Alison speculates the prosecution may ask for lesser instructions later, but it’s another questionable strategy.
• Quote: "They've closed the door to second degree murder. This is all or nothing here." – Alison (21:06)

8. Search History & Consciousness of Guilt

• T.J. raises the point that the word “murder” did not appear in Brian’s searches until hours after his other suspicious activity. Alison calls the use of the word “murder” in searches highly significant, no matter the timing.
• Quote: "The fact that he used that he typed in the word murder, he had to type it in. That is significant." – Alison (24:37)

9. Defense Strategy: Keep Story Vague

• Amy and T.J. reference the defense raising alternate theories (such as accidental death during sexual activity). Alison suggests the defense should keep things as vague as possible: even the medical examiner doesn’t know cause of death, so the jury can’t be sure either.
• Quote: “They should leave it very vague, very open. Absolutely. Not that this happens.” – Alison (28:55)

10. Jury Logistics & Trial Pacing

• T.J. wonders whether the holiday schedule will affect the trial. Alison says it shouldn’t influence the pace, and warns that rushing to accommodate dates could harm the prosecution—“let the judge be the bad guy here.”
• Quote: “When I'm hearing, oh, the prosecution's going faster than expected, I'm thinking that's not good. Why would you do that?” – Alison (30:23)

11. What Should the Prosecution Do Now?

• Alison advises: Slow down, hammer home key evidence, and ask questions that appeal to the jury’s “common sense” about what’s likely versus what’s possible.
• Highlight Brian’s unusual phone call to Fausto, the reality of Anna’s family/marriage situation, and the improbability of a healthy person dying mysteriously.
• Quote: "Ask questions that start or in the middle and end with: use your common sense." – Alison (30:56)
• She elaborates with hypothetical questions about Anna’s motivation, their marriage, frustration, and future plans—none of which the prosecution pressed.

12. Burden of Proof & Reasonable Doubt

• Alison explains “reasonable doubt” to listeners with relatable analogies (losing Knicks tickets, unplugging a curling iron)—emphasizing how just one juror with genuine doubt can hang the case.
• Quote: "It's not an imaginary doubt. It has to be a real doubt. ... That's reasonable doubt. Not imaginary, not speculative." – Alison (26:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The defense attorney owned him. That was as if he was his witness."
  — Alison Treason (05:51)

• "Hammer them home, spend time on them. Slow down. Missed, missed opportunity."
  — Alison Treason criticizing prosecution’s haste (09:37)

• "If we are thinking about it, maybe the jury isn't thinking about it and they need a lawyer to point it out."
  — TJ Holmes, on the need for legal clarity (33:28)

• "Only Brian could get on the stand and say that. Why would he? Why would he?"
  — Amy, Alison, and TJ riffing on the improbability of Brian testifying (29:13–29:25)

• "Did he know about the affair? I don't know. And there is no body. The thing that the prosecution is left with, and there's no way they can do anything about it, is that without a body, they cannot determine manner or cause of death. And that may be the biggest sticking point for this jury."
  — Alison Treason (27:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:23 – Alison: Three big takeaways from week 1; prosecution missing opportunities
• 05:51 – The defense "owned" the medical examiner; prosecution errors
• 07:59 – Brian’s call to Fausto: a missed chance to prove motive
• 10:20 – 11:14 – Motive and the lover's testimony: missed redirect
• 14:57 – Importance of expert credibility and rare unexplained deaths
• 19:48 – 21:06 – Legal strategy: should jury learn of prior pleas? Why no lesser charges?
• 24:37 – Significance of “murder” in search history
• 26:24 – Reasonable doubt explained to listeners
• 28:55 – 29:13 – Defense should keep alternate death theories vague
• 30:56 – Alison: What prosecution should do now
• 33:28 – 34:06 – Amy and TJ thank Alison; key missed legal points recap

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Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is direct, critical, and analytical. Alison Treason offers candid evaluations and practical legal advice, pushing hosts and listeners to think like jurors and highlighting just how fragile the prosecution's case may be if they do not slow down and address key evidence gaps. Amy and TJ provide the viewpoint of smart, engaged non-lawyers, validating listeners’ confusion or concerns.

Ending Thought:
The prosecution is jeopardizing what should be a strong case by moving too quickly and not making use of compelling circumstantial evidence. Alison Treason’s advice: slow down, walk the jury through the logic, fill in the gaps, and make the case relatable—otherwise, this could result in a not guilty or hung jury despite damning circumstantial evidence.

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[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Welcome everyone to this edition of Amy & TJ Presents. We have been covering the Brian Walsh trial, and it has been even more fascinating perhaps, than we had anticipated. But we have alongside us back by popular demand, legal expert and renowned criminal defense attorney Alison Treesel. And, Allison, you've been watching alongside of us, and this first week of testimony wrapped up with a bang. We're already back at it on week two here on Monday morning. But what was your big.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Takeaway?

There's probably three big takeaways. I wanted to know what the. What the former lover had to say. I wanted to know what the medical examiner was going to say and how the defense was going to cross examine the medical examiner. And of course, I had to wrap my head around this defense. And was the prosecution going to spend all weekend preparing for how we're going to answer? There's no body. There's no manner or cause of death. How are we going to deal with this? And unfortunately for the prosecution, in my mind, unless I see more and a lot more, I think they missed a lot of. Of key points. I think that they could have done a lot more with the medical examiner that they had on the stand. I think they could have done more with Mr. Fausto and asking him questions. So this is a case where you have these searches that make the prosecution's case nearly a slam dunk. And all of a sudden, we're at a place where I'm scratching my head and I'm saying, wait a minute, wait a minute. The defense has something here. No body, no intent, no causation, no manner of death. This is a problem for the prosecution.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

Allison. We're smart. We feel so validated right now. We're not legal experts, but we watched all last week, and we got to even day two, day three, and we couldn't believe what we were saying. Like, wait a minute, maybe that didn't happen. I could not believe. And it sounds like this is what you are saying. The defense had a good first.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Week.

The worst potential case. I mean, you know, we're. We're starting from a place of less than zero. Okay. I mean, really, you know, I've done this for many years, and this is not the kind of case you want to take to trial. You go to trial because you have no other option, because no offer is on the table. And by the way, I'm also questioning why the prosecution allowed him to plea to the other charges before the case got to trial, because now they may be handcuffed where they can't even talk about the fact that he pled to it. So I'm saying, saying, you know, was the fact that they could prove consciousness of guilt, that that's not enough for me. So I'm.

Again, I'm saying this is a very bad case for the defense. Those searches may rule the day, but we are talking about the defense. And basically, from what I saw from the coroner and the. The, the medical examiner, the defense attorney owned him. That was as if he was his.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Witness. I agree. And the thing that has stood out to both TJ and me is this notion of first degree murder. They have to show premeditation if they don't have the motive that they think they have. If the defense can prove, or at least create doubt, that Brian Walsh may not have known his wife was having an affair, how do you then prove premeditation? There was a moment where you and I both looked at each other when the defense attorney, Larry Tifton. Right. He was able to have the forensics, the digital forensics guy, read off all of these other back and forth between his wife and him, showing love, showing pictures back and forth. Before January 1st, none of his searches were about murder. None of his searches were about planning something. They were quite the opposite. What do you make of.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

That? Well, I want to say something about premeditation. First of all, it doesn't have to be formed days, weeks, hours beforehand. It can be formed pretty quickly. Okay. Premeditation can be formed fairly quickly. So I would focus, if I'm the prosecution, and this is where I think they missed a lot of key moments is, you know, they had Mr. Fausto on the stand. And the most interesting part of his testimony to me was this phone call that Brian Walsh made to him and left him this message. Okay? Now, if he. If Fausto is only the real estate broker who they had spoken to months before.

And nothing more, why is Brian Walsh calling him on January 4th and saying, where is my wife? And he does it in a way that's very nice. And, you know, I don't think there's a problem. I'm not concerned when we know, of course, now that he actually had dismembered her by that part, by that point, and had, you know, taken a hacksaw to her. And he's, you know, he's lying to this man. But why him? Why is he calling him if he didn't know something about them? I would have spent a lot of time as the prosecution, and of course the defense was going to gloss over that, but I. It seems to me that the. That the prosecution is for Some reason rushing through these witnesses, they're ahead of schedule. Well, that doesn't mean that doesn't help them. Slowly, methodically. That's the kind of question that you spend a lot of time on. Why is this man calling a guy that the only relationship he knows is that they. They were in a real estate deal many, many months ago. That is a strange. And that would show that Brian Walsh knew exactly who he was. Knew exactly who he was. And so premeditation could have been formed if he looked at the phone and he saw that him wishing her a very happy New Year and then said, what is this? What's going on? I would have also spent time talking about the clothes that she's wearing. And meaning what was found in the dumpsters. Is it what the person who they celebrated New Year's Eve with, Is that what she was wearing? Because his hit the opening from the defense seemed to be that she died while she was in bed. Well, why is she wearing her shoes? Why is she wearing her jacket? Those kinds of things. Don't leave those for the jury to speculate on. Hammer them home, spend time on them. Slow down. Missed, missed.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

Opportunity. Okay, you just brought up two points that I'm pretty sure I did not hear them spend any time. You said you would have spent more. I didn't hear them spend much time at all on either of those things. Is motive. Am I justified on that jury right now as taking the motive being the affair off the table? Do I have reasonable doubt at this point that Brian Walsh did not know about the.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Affair? I don't know if it raised. I don't know if it raises to the level of reasonable doubt. I think we have to see what comes. But certainly.

Fausto made very clear that while he was very open about the affair, she was not that she basically said to him, I want it to. I want it to come from me. But what the prosecution didn't pull out of him is you have no idea what conversations these two had. You have no idea what happened that night. You were not there. You have no idea how many messages have you sent to her that he could have easily seen. So those kinds of questions were really missed opportunities because we're left. Okay, the jury is left with, he didn't know about it. He didn't know about this.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Affair. It's so interesting you say that because when the defense attorney, when Lipton was cross examining Fastow and said to him, did you ever have any indication that Brian Walsh knew about your affair? And he said no, did Anna ever Tell you she thought her husband was suspicious. No. By that alone, you would have thought the prosecution would have come back for redirect and did exactly what you just laid out. Why wouldn't they? Because that, to me, was a moment for the defense. A clear victory for the.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Defense. Absolutely. Now, by the way, what's interesting is when I was thinking about ways to say maybe he found out about it on, you know, on New Year's and he'd gone through the text, as a defense attorney, my immediate reaction to that would have been, well, if he found out about it, she would have sent him a text and said something to the effect of, he knows. He knows now, but maybe there was a struggle. Maybe there was a struggle there and you don't know. Look, you don't know what happened, which is part of the prosecution's problem is that there is no body. Right. So you. And, you know, and I was thinking about ways over the weekend how, you know, what are the questions that you ask the medical examiner, how you get out, you know, does it, does blood after post mortem? Post mortem, can you tell when you see it, when you see a blood clot? Can you see if that is post mortem or not? Those kinds of things that, that I would be trying to get at that somehow, of course, she was living when this blood came out of her body onto the rug or on the hacksaw or something like that. And that's what I would have been spending time with on the weekend, preparing. Because this defense may have come as a shock to. You don't have to disclose what your defense is going to be, but we're now a week into this, and the prosecutors have now known for multiple days what the defense's theory of the case is, what they're arguing, how they're getting there, and the prosecution has got to be way ahead of this. So, for example, I was thinking about the medical examiner and the. When I said the defense had his way with him is what he did was he basically said, well, you know, these sudden deaths, they happen. And, and the, the witness, basically, he, you know, when he wouldn't even agree with him that it's uncommon, it was a very strange moment that, you know, I mean, and if I'm, if I'm the prosecutor, I literally give statistics. Okay, you personally has performed the 1500 autopsies. How many of those that you personally performed were unexplained deaths? How many? And I'd go on and on, and he's, he is supervisor, been involved in thousands of autopsies. His, his education and his credentialing is off the charts. Incredible. So this is a man that the jury is going to believe. And he's, and he's not somebody that was exaggerating or blowing things up. So he was someone that was very, very credible. And they should that as an opportunity to say to him, healthy woman, did you go through her medical records before? Did you interview people? And they touched on it a little bit. But you interview people around her and say, did she ever complain of this? Did you ever. The only place he kind of got there was the 90 minute plane flight in Washington to, from Washington. Right. Those kinds of things. But I would have spent far more time talking about how uncommon it is. I mean, think about how much time the defense spent trying to enumerate every single type of, of, of unexplained death. I would have spent double the amount of time saying how uncommon it is. And I just don't know why they're.

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Do you think this is going to happen? Should the judge let the jury hear about the pleas? On the other Two convictions. She seemed to be really going back and forth about this and hasn't decided what she's supposed to.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Do. Right. She's vacillating on it. And, and, you know, I, I had said the last time that I was on is that, you know, when, when the defense opens the door for it, right, when the defense opens the door for it, then the judge has to let it in. But I, I, I, you know, the, the jury shouldn't be left with a question of, well, what, what happened here. I mean, he's saying that he disposed the body. I, I, I, you know, it's going to come down. Is he going to testify? If he comes, if he comes to testify, and that's going to come in. You know, we talked about this the first time.

First question, where's the body? Second question, why'd you plead to this? You know, why'd you play to this? So I, I think it comes in if he testifies. She's struggling, she's struggling. But again, and I don't, you know, I don't, it's not that I'm, I, I'm, I'm scratching my head as to the prosecution in this case. I just, I don't understand why he was allowed to plea. Maybe they didn't think that this was going to be the defense. And it did kind of come out of left field, this defense of, you know, unexplained death. It's not like they're, they're arguing heat of passion. And by the way, that's another thing.

Amy. They've closed the door to, to a second degree murder. This is an all or nothing here. I mean, the defense has said either you believe that there's an unexpected, you know, that this is an unexplained death, or that the prosecution cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt that Brian Walsh killed her in any degree. In any.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Degree. Why wouldn't the prosecution have put on other charges, second degree murder, manslaughter? Why wouldn't they have included. Because we've seen that before and.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

They, they may at the end ask for, ask for a jury instruction as to other charges. They may increase that. But, but I think more interested in, you know, maybe they felt because there wasn't a body that they would secure, con these other convictions, okay, that they could then show that it was consciousness of guilt by, have, by hacking up her body and disposing of it the way he did. But it would it have been far better, better to go through this trial with the jury having to decide and hear all this testimony and say, oh, my God, he actually did chop her up. He did all these horrible things. You know, that that probably wasn't something that they thought that, that they were going to argue is that this was an unexplained death. So may have been a missed opportunity. But, but here's the thing. I.

There'S just, there's just questions that should have been asked by the prosecution. And I'm looking at my notes and I, I'm jumping around a little bit, but with Mr. Fausto, I, I, I, they talked about it a little bit, the prosecution, a little bit. But.

On the questions of what Anna felt about him moving there, what Anna felt about his case, okay.

I would have asked questions like, well, wasn't Anna furious that her husband was going, potentially was going to prison? Wasn't she furious about the financial stress he had put on their family? Wasn't she. She furious that as a result of what he had done, she was separated from her children because he couldn't move to Washington, D.C. those string of questions are proving motive, are proving motive, are proving that this is all boiling over, that this is not. By the way, this marriage isn't that great. If she's having an affair, it's not that great.

All.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

Right. What, T.J. no, because I had another question in mind for where I was about to go, and then you actually came back and brought me back to something else because motive has been the big thing, and there was something that happened last week, and I really, I wanted to text you and ask you about it. Murder. The word murder not being in any of his searches until six plus hours after he started searching. Is that.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Relevant? Okay. So I listened to your podcast after I was on, and Amy said, you know, maybe he is feeling guilty over it. And which very, by the way, is very possible. I mean, it's very possible that he is, you know, you know, after he recognizes what he has done, he, he then says, you know, he starts to ask about murder. But I just find.

I find that I don't care how long of time elapsed. To me, the fact that he used that he typed in the word murder, he had to type it in. That is significant. That is significant. You know, accident would have been great, but that's not what he typed in. Typed in.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

Murder.

Okay, I get it. It doesn't matter what time. Okay, I get it. I get it. You know, to be honest, you, you put us after.

Interview or podcast. We did with you in a mindset to where I'm looking at the defense and trying to figure out how. I'm more fascinated by what they're doing. And you sound like there's so much you're looking at critically on the prosecution side, but I'm just so fascinated by what Tipton, What. What's he up against? I'm fascinated by any little. Little victory they.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Get. Well, and, and the reason that I spotlighted that and the, and then look, you know, when I cover these cases, I really cover them from both sides. I look at the defense, I look at the prosecution. You know, what does the prosecution have here? You have some. You. I mean, those searches and the fact that he hacked up his, his, his wife's body, and someone's got to explain, you know, just leaving it alone. He may have to get on the stand. I. You know, so how is.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

It. How still there's a.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Chance. I. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I want. And I said this from the beginning. I want to hear what their expert. I want to hear what the defense's expert has to say. Okay? And by the way, maybe they're going to use the prosecution's expert because he did such a good job for the defense. So. But, but the thing with looking at these cases critically is because the burden of proof is so high, it's not a civil case in a criminal case. It's beyond a reasonable doubt. And I want to share this with. With your listeners, because I think it's always important to explain what that means. It's not an imaginary doubt. It has to be a real doubt. But I've used this in clothing in a closing argument. So, T.J. we're going to use sports tickets for you, and we're going to use a curling iron for you. Okay? So, T.J. you're about to go to a Knicks game, and you've packed your tickets, you've got yourself ready, you put them in your jacket. You. But you go and you feel for the tickets because maybe you didn't bring them. Amy, you curl your hair. You remember pulling it out of the wall, that you turn that curling iron off, but. And you get in the car, but then you get out of the car because, well, did I, did I, did I turn that curling iron off? That's reasonable doubt. Not imaginary, not speculative. That's reasonable doubt. And so the question here is, you just need one person, and I said that before. You need one to say, God, it looks bad for him. It looks real. Those searches are bad. The hacksaw is bad. The affair is bad. But did he know about the affair? I don't know. And there is no body. There is no body. And the, the thing that the prosecution is left with, and there's no way they can do anything about it, is that without a body, they cannot determine manner or cause of death. And that may be the biggest sticking point for this jury.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Wow. And I was, I was so fascinated today with the medical examiner, even you, TJ And I both looked at each other when the defense started to talk about sexual asphyxiation, like, you know, some sort of, like, you know, sexual game gone bad. So an accidental death, we thought, no, it would not actually turn into that direction. But do you think the defense will get that specific with their expert? Will they actually get specific? Brian obviously is the only person who knows how she.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Died. They shouldn't, they shouldn't, they should leave it very vague, very open. Absolutely. Not that this happens. They don't, I mean, the, the, their court, their actual medical examiner doesn't know how this woman died. How do they expect you, Mr. And Ms. Jury, to.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Know?

So only Brian could get on the stand and say.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

That. Why, why would.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

He? Why would.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

He? Yeah, why would he? Why would.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

He. This is my last quick thing. Christmas. Is the holiday schedule going to play a role? I know we're a little ways out and they expect to be done, but do you think it's going to play a role in the.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Struggle? Yeah, I mean, you know, one thing, one thing that the judge doesn't want to do is have this role into people's Christmas holidays and vacations. And because then you have an angry jury, especially if they have a pre planned vacation, especially if they have their kids, you know, school recitals and so, but, but that's not, that's not an excuse for the prosecution to steamroll through their case. You know, I mean, I would be looking at this like, I'm going to take my time, I'm going to argue, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to just hammer home some of these points for as long as it takes and, you know, let the judge be the bad guy here. I just, I.

Yes, they may adjourn and then come back if the case takes longer than that. But I, but when I'm hearing, oh, the prosecution's going faster than expected, I'm thinking that's not good. Why would you do that?

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Wow. So what do you want to see if you're looking or somebody who is saying. I'm not saying that you're personally rooting for the Prosecution. But if you'd like to see them actually be successful, given the week they just had, what do they need to do this week to get the jury on board with their version of.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Events? Ask questions that start or in the middle and end with. Use your common sense. Okay, so I would be. I would be formulating questions where the jury says, well, that, that makes sense to me. I mean, a very healthy woman just dropping dead and nobody. And there were no signs of anything. That doesn't make sense to me. That is not common. I'd like to hear statistics. I'd like to know what kind of medical shape she was in beforehand, had she complained to anybody, had she seen a doctor related to any symptom, things like that. I mean, I. Look.

I. These are cases where, like I said, the defense has an uphill battle, but as the prosecutor, I'm certainly not making it easier for them. I mean, I wouldn't be making it easier. I wouldn't lose out on key moments. I mean, this Fausto, this, the. The idea that Brian Walsh called him on January 4th, you know, I would hammer that. Where did he, why would he call him? Why him? I mean, if you were to rely solely on the testimony from William Fausto, all the only exchange he had with him was over the real estate. And then there was one call that, that I also would have sort of honed in on, where he said, oh, our son mistakenly called. Well, that must have been from a conversation that Anna had with Brian about Mr. Fausto. What was.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

That?

Did he ask her? Did she maybe not want to tell him? Maybe she, you know, and you, you could presume that maybe Anna would not want to worry or concern William because she would want the relationship to continue. She didn't want him to get scared.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Off. There, There was also, there was also some interesting exchange about a one year plan, a 10 year plan, a 20 year plan. And, and the prosecution just let that one go, too. I. I would have gone back to that and said, well, let's talk about that. I mean, did you two even know you had young children? Did you guys see each other together in a 15 year, 20 year plan? What does that look like? You know, I mean, did you have, did she have contingency plans if her husband went to prison? Was she going to stay with him? Those to me, T.J. missed.

[TJ (Podcast Co-host)]

Missed.

Well, it has been very interesting to watch. Yes, of course. But it's really. You've pointed some things out today, and this is why we have you as the expert, that we didn't think about. And if we are thinking about it, maybe the jury isn't thinking about it and they need a lawyer to point it out. And the prosecution hasn't been doing that. So thank you. It's good to see see you. We're going to see you next week as.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

Well. Yeah, next.

[Amy (Podcast Host)]

Monday. Awesome. Alison Treason, we appreciate you. Thank you so much for helping us get the perspective we need to fully watch this trial. But it has been nonstop, just crazy moments in court. So thank you for continuing to watch alongside.

[Alison Treason (Legal Expert)]

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