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This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human. Welcome everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ Presents. We are following the Colts Neck murders trial. Last week we gave you all basically an overview of what week one was like in this long anticipated trial. This is almost eight years in the making from when these horrific murders happened in this rural New Jersey town to actually now getting to trial. We have Paul Canero charged with the murders of his own brother, Keith Canaro, his wife Jennifer, and their two children, 8 year old Sophia and 11 year old Jesse, and then setting fire to their home and his own home to cover up the crimes. This is such a difficult case to hear, but obviously so many people want to get to the truth. And to help us, as we've been following this case each day, we have criminal defense attorney extraordinaire Alison Treasle with us once again to help us go over what we've seen and heard so far and what her legal expertise thinks about what's happened so far. Allison, TJ and I are so excited to have you back on the podcast.
B
Thank you. I love being here. And this is a hard one to hear, right? This is a story about two brothers that at some point were the best of friends. They were business partners, they cared deeply for each other and their families. And wow, did this go horribly wrong. I have to start by saying that of all the opening statements in my 30 years that I've heard that I've been a part of, part of, none has been more explosive than the one given by the DA Nicole Wallace, in this case. It was riveting, it was concise, it made sense, it wasn't too long. It laid out their case. And if in fact what she said is true, it was one of the most significant, sinister, sinister murders ever committed. And this is a fam, this is a family. So, I mean, what, what stood out to me is when she talked about the killing of the niece, the 45 pounds niece, the 17 stab wounds of the niece, and then the lengths that you go to light the house on fire, that those children didn't immediately die, that there was smoke found in their lungs to indicate that they were alive after those brutal stabbings. So whoever did that, and the, the people obviously contend that it was Paul Canero, the brother, and that he had every motive, including many dollar signs to do away with the entire family. It is one of those cases where you're shaking your head saying, well, if this is true, this is a case of greed, of despair and a family just ripped apart.
C
Alison, you talk about how Emotional and devastating, how sinister the crime is. That's on the prosecution side. That's what they have going for them. Is there anything you heard from the defense? I know they maybe have an uphill climb, but what did you hear from them that makes you think maybe they have a decent case to put on?
B
Well, I'm not going to use the word decent. Okay. Because I'm going to be straight with our listeners. Right. I mean, there are times where I say, wait a minute, we got something here. Let's talk about it. Okay, What? Their theory at this point before they have put on their case through their. Through the defense attorney at opening, was that the police did a really shoddy job, that they rushed to judgment that there was a third brother that also stood to make a substantial amount of money if this entire family was wiped out. Because Keith can. Arrow's blind trust, if something happened to his entire family would be split between Paul and the third brother, Corey. And Corey was not involved in the business, and Corey was never thoroughly investigated. So their argument thus far seems to be blame it on the police. The police. The police did not thoroughly investigate this case, and therefore there are potential other suspects that were never questioned. The police put blinders on. They immediately honed in on Paul and therefore it is their fault that there isn't somebody else sitting here as the defendant in this case.
C
Alison, generally among defense attorneys pointing the finger at another suspect, is that usually something that is looked at favorably or unfavorably with.
B
We have a name for it and is some other dude did it. Some other dude did it. So. Yes, TJ that is not unusual. It is not unusual. And, you know, smart.
C
Does it work?
B
Well, sometimes it works, but is it smart? Well, when you. What. What else do they have? Right? What else do they have? They have to say it wasn't him. And they have to say that if the police and law enforcement would have done their homework, they would have found the true culprit. It wasn't him. But I will tell you that it wasn't just the opening statement so far when I heard the phone call from Keith to Paul where he. And this is the day before, okay, where he. He says, where's the money, Paul? What did you do with the money, Paul? And I'm talking about the money that was supposed to be paid for the premium for this blind trust that only Paul had control over.
A
It was like $78,000, give or take.
B
Right? But there had also been a previous dipping into the funds, allegedly for. For $25,000 that went to went to Paul's, a school event that was clearly not for the trust to go to his children, to go to Keith's children. And then we hear from the accountant, and the accountant's on the stand, and the accountant is talking about how it was discovered, how there was some cooking of the books. According to the accountant, The. The accountant said that he routinely reviews all the checks that go to make the premiums. And it appears from what the accountant is testifying to that Paul was very methodical in covering up, making those payments, when in fact those payments to the life insurance company hadn't been made for months and months.
A
Allison, as you detail the evidence that the prosecution is putting forward, that is, or at least from what I heard, part of the defense's defense, what do you make of their claim that the overwhelming evidence in this case is just too convenient? And that's what their argument is. To point the finger at the other brother, Corey, to say he then would have had the most to gain financially. Because if you take one brother out and his entire family with a murder, you take the other brother out by pinning said murders on him. Now you get it all.
B
Here we go. Ready? Sometimes it is what it is, and sometimes a defendant is just so sloppy that they leave a, you know, Hansel Gretel trail of crumbs left to the crime. So here there is some real physical evidence that the pro. That the, the prosecution is presenting that the defense has to contend with. I don't like the idea of the burnt fire canisters right there in Paul's home. I don't like Paul's. The, the. He. He. If the prosecution is correct, he attempts to burn down his own house and what remains is clothing. Clothing with the young girl's DNA on the clothing. Now, Corey has to be some incredible magician. Magician to stage a crime where he. They have a video, the last known recording of, Of Paul is going toward his dvr and then the DVR is essentially cut. Those things are very hard to invent. And you know, there is. There is a. An idea that could you be set up. Well, my goodness, this Corey is something else if he's able to accomplish all of that. And, and T.J. you're looking at me. But sometimes, sometimes facts are what they are, and you leave a trail of evidence behind because you are sloppy and because you don't you think when you, when you burn the house. So we're to understand, okay, we're to understand that Corey goes over, somebody else goes over, lights the Porsche on fire, lights one of the brothers houses on fire, the other brother's house on fire. And there is just simply no evidence of that thus far.
C
Okay, tell me then, Allison, where has the defense scored any points?
B
Okay, so I did listen a little bit to the, to the accountant's testimony, and they're going after this sale of Ecostar, and there was an offer, allegedly, this is the, the business that was a 50, 50 business split between the brothers. And there was an offer to sell it for $850,000. Apparently Keith says, yes, I'm for it. Paul says, let's hold off. And the prosecution was trying to, to argue that Paul was simply greedy. And, you know, all of this is swirling around, and here goes one of his, you know, streams of income. But the, the defense said, well, this conversation is not just in isolation. And in fact, you, the accountant told them, you know, we may be able to get a better offer. There are reasons to keep negotiating because the prosecution had isolated just one sort of email exchange where they said, Look, 850 is a really good deal. You should take it. Well, in previous conversations that the pro that the defense raised, they said, wait a minute, you actually said to them, we may be able to do better or something to that effect. So it's actually more of a building a case as a defense attorney, where you're poking holes at everything that the prosecution says is definitive, is definitive. And as Amy brought up, what are they going to go after? They're going to go after a. Come on, people, this is just way too convenient. This is just way too convenient. And jurors, there's something called the CSI effect, right, where they say, we want DNA, we want a, we want all of this proven to us, handed to us on a silver platter. And a defense says it ain't there.
C
Well, that's what they do on the show. They wrap it up in an hour, case closed.
B
So in 30 years, I've had exactly zero cases wrapped up in an hour. You know, some go my way, some don't. But I can assure you that between the last commercial break and the rolling credits, the case isn't over.
A
Yeah, yeah. And so look, we're, we're obviously seeing this tremendous amount of evidence from the timeline of the car movements to those final calls. We heard at least Keith's end of it from the surveillance video, the bank account issue. How, how what? And we know, we've seen this in trials, obviously, the defense doesn't have to put any witnesses forward. They don't have to necessarily even present a case. They've Just been trying to do so with the cross examination. But can you imagine who the defense would call, what their defense could be if they so choose to put on a defense?
B
So I think that if they're going to put on a defense here, it's going to be a couple of areas. One that they, that, that Paul's family was not in financial straits, they were not in financial disaster. Okay. So that he did have other streams of income. I would also put on someone, maybe his wife, not sure, but somebody who says Paul adored his brother, Paul adored his niece and nephew. They had a very close relationship. He would never under any circumstances kill all the family. He wasn't like that. These, these brothers were extremely, extremely close. That Corey was estranged from the family essentially is where I would go with that. But that's, that's essentially where you're going to go. What physical evidence can he dispute? He's got a problem with the little girl's DNA on his pants. That, that's, that's a problem. He's got a problem with the timeline and the, the video of him approaching the DVR and then it being disabled. He's got a problem with that. He's got a problem with his own timeline on where he was and his whereabouts. Maybe the, the wife can give a stronger alibi for him saying that he was in fact home. So things like that, Amy, that they'll try and attack. But the theme, it's very hard to attack a theme when the day before we hear from the decedent's own voice the anger, the frustration, the hurt when he realizes that his brother has stolen this money that went, that was to go to his children. In the case he died in the case of that something happened to him and that not only was it stolen that he had lied to him for months and essentially cooked the books when the accountant took a look at it.
C
You listed off a few things. It's a problem. And these things are a problem for one side or the other in the case. Is it a problem at all for the prosecution? Do they have to overcome it all? The idea that this guy sitting here in v neck sweaters with glasses on, who died, who doesn't have some criminal history, who seemed to be a good family guy, can stab his 8 year old and 11 year old niece and nephew. You're going to have to prove to me this guy is some kind of fricking monster.
B
Yeah, so, so that is incomprehensible for most of us. Right. He's not somebody that's sitting there that has a long terminal history tatted up. You know, someone who, I mean, he looks. He looks like a good guy. He looks like a guy that, you know, I'd sit down and have a conversation with. Why not? He's got those nice rim glasses, you know, he looks, he. He looks good. But remember, Leslie Abramson did a heck of a job dressing up the Menendez brothers with those little sweater vests. And it didn't. It didn't preclude a conviction in that case. Yeah. You knew. Do you think I'd pull that one out? Had to.
C
No, I forgot. I just pictured them again and I'm like, oh, yeah, they were presented in that way. I just struggle with the girl is a big part. The brutality.
B
The brutality.
C
How is that. But is that something the prosecution knows they have to overcome with a jury? It's hard to get my head around this man stabbing a child 17 times. That's related to him.
A
I was gonna ask the exact same question, babe, because I had the same thought.
B
Like, they have a why, but they have a why.
C
78 grand is not a big enough why for me.
B
No, no, no.
A
Stab your knees and the eye.
B
That's a why.
C
It was that he was losing his life. That's what they said.
B
The three million dollar life insurance policy. And this is why. Let me explain the kids part in that. So Paul has to. In order for Paul and Corey to collect, not only does Keith have to die, who then the beneficiary is his wife. So his wife has to die. He. If the wife dies, the money goes to the children. If the children die, both of them, then it goes to Paul and Corey. And that's $3 million. That's a lot of money.
C
They said they would have to split it, right, that 3 million. And their argument is that a case for Corey, given that if he frames his brother Paul, then he gets the whole 3 million. Is that not any reasonable anywhere close to reasonable doubt?
B
I want to hear what the defense has to say. I want to hear what evidence they have to prove that Corey was in the vicinity. I want to hear how they explain how Corey could have planted the clothes and the. And the gas tank, you know, and the gas canisters.
C
Allison, you paused and didn't immediately shoot me down. That's a win for me on my question. That was a win in.
B
I want to hear. I want to hear. And look, you know, I'm somebody, as you know, that. Look, I'm a defense attorney. I poke holes in things. I question things. I say to myself. All right, if I'm the attorney here, where am I going? What can I prove? What, you know, what are the weak points? And here the problem. You're right. Just overcoming the brutality of, of, of people that you love and you've helped raise and you were, you were at their baptisms and you were at their birthday parties and they called you uncle whatever. Okay? That is very hard for a jury to wrap their head around. However, however, they are dead. These children did die. And if the prosecution proves their case, they don't have to prove a motive. But they did. They explained the motive. They don't have to prove a motive, but they did say, this guy's got $3 million or half of coming to him. If everybody in Keith's family is wiped out.
A
I am going to be. And I think we all are going to be riveted to the defense because it almost seems like to t with the brutality. I am also thinking, like, if you're planning to kill your brother and his entire family, isn't there a less gruesome, horrific way to do it other than to stab your 8 year old niece 17 times and once in the eye? That. That is so hard to get around. So how important then, like, I would think, given that what you just said, getting his wife or getting his daughters up on that stand to talk about what a good guy he is is really kind of, maybe even the only way you would possibly feel like you would struggle with finding a guilty verse.
B
That's right. I, and, and I don't think that his attorneys will put him on. I, I don't think that they could subject him to a cross examination, so. But you can get that relationship in and the love that he had in through the wife or his adult daughters.
A
All right, well, we will be watching Alison Treason. Always so interesting to get your expertise, your legal opinion on what we're watching. We're, we're constantly, as we're following these trials and we have them up all day, every day, we're riveted. But we always say beforehand, this is coming from no legal mind. This is just what I think a juror might be thinking. But it's so great to actually talk to someone who does have said legal mind. So we appreciate you walking down this journey with us for our viewers sake as well, so they don't have to hear our uninformed opinions.
B
My pleasure.
A
Thank you, Alison Trel, and we will be talking to you soon. This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.
Podcast: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present
Date: January 21, 2026
Episode Focus: An expert breakdown of the opening arguments, evidence, and defense strategy in the high-profile Colts Neck murders trial.
This episode centers on the ongoing Colts Neck murders trial, a shocking case nearly eight years in the making involving the deaths of Keith Canero, his wife Jennifer, and their two children. The accused, Paul Canero, stands charged with murdering his brother's family and committing arson to cover up the homicide. Special guest and criminal defense attorney Alison Treasle joins Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes to provide expert legal analysis of the prosecution’s and defense’s opening statements and early trial evidence.
“Of all the opening statements in my 30 years that I've heard...none has been more explosive than the one given by the DA Nicole Wallace, in this case.”
“Their argument thus far seems to be blame it on the police. The police did not thoroughly investigate this case, and therefore there are potential other suspects that were never questioned.”
“We have a name for it: ‘some other dude did it’... it is not unusual.”
“There is some real physical evidence... burnt fire canisters right there in Paul's home... clothing with the young girl's DNA... the last known recording of Paul... and then the DVR is essentially cut.”
“The defense said... you told them we may be able to get a better offer... poking holes at everything the prosecution says is definitive.”
“Is it a problem at all for the prosecution... this guy... who seemed to be a good family guy, can stab his 8-year-old and 11-year-old niece and nephew?”
“I would also put on someone… who says Paul adored his brother, Paul adored his niece and nephew... these brothers were extremely, extremely close.”
Praise for Prosecution's Opening:
“None has been more explosive than the one given by the DA Nicole Wallace, in this case.”
Defense's Alternative Suspect Tactic:
“‘Some other dude did it.’ Yes, TJ, that is not unusual... What else do they have?”
Financial Motive’s Morbid Logic:
“So Paul has to—in order for Paul and Corey to collect, not only does Keith have to die…the wife has to die…the children die, both of them...then it goes to Paul and Corey. And that's $3 million.”
Jury’s Struggle with the Case’s Brutality:
“You’re going to have to prove to me this guy is some kind of fricking monster.”
“That is incomprehensible for most of us. He looks like a good guy... But remember, Leslie Abramson did a heck of a job dressing up the Menendez brothers…”
Humorous Moment:
“In 30 years, I've had exactly zero cases wrapped up in an hour. Some go my way, some don't. But I can assure you that between the last commercial break and rolling credits, the case isn't over.”
The episode provides a compelling, accessible walkthrough of an extremely disturbing and complex case. With Alison Treasle’s legal expertise, the hosts break down not just what each side has presented, but the strategic maneuvers and psychological hurdles facing both prosecution and defense. The brutal facts, the intricate motives, and the potential for reasonable doubt are all laid bare. As the trial proceeds, the focus will be on whether the defense can introduce enough uncertainty regarding Paul Canero’s guilt and whether jurors can get past the “incomprehensible” nature of the alleged crime, both in its brutality and supposed motivation.
For listeners interested in true crime, legal analysis, or high-profile family murder cases, this episode is a thorough, gripping breakdown of both the facts and the strategies at play in the Colts Neck murder trial.