The Diddy Trial: !!!BREAKING!!! Juror Dismissed

Summary

Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial – Detailed Summary

Introduction On the June 16, 2025 episode of Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, veteran journalists Amy Robach and TJ Holmes delve deep into the unfolding courtroom drama surrounding the high-profile Diddy trial. Joined by Aubrey O’Day, a former protege of Diddy, the trio offers a unique insider perspective on the proceedings that have captivated national attention.

Juror Dismissal and Replacement The episode opens with significant news about the trial's integrity: the dismissal of the first juror.

• Juror Number Six Dismissed:

  • Timestamp [06:13] – Tom Yamas reports, “The judge in this case decided first thing Monday morning that juror number six was going to be off the jury.”
  • Issue: Juror six, a 41-year-old black man employed at a correctional facility, admitted during jury selection to living in the Bronx. Later, he revealed he resides in New Jersey and occasionally stays in the Bronx with his aunt. This discrepancy led the judge to question his credibility, resulting in his removal.
  • Key Quote [04:04] – TJ Holmes comments, “If you don't live in New York, you're not eligible to serve on this jury. The judge sounded like the guy was intentionally being deceptive and lying.”

• Replacement Juror:

  • Timestamp [04:29] – The dismissed juror is replaced by a 57-year-old white male accountant from Westchester County.
  • Defense Concerns: The replacement raised alarms among the defense team regarding the jury's diversity and potential bias. TJ Holmes notes, “It's very different perspectives potentially on life.”

Concerns Over Jury Integrity Further complicating the trial, another juror faced potential dismissal due to alleged misconduct.

• Potential Juror Dismissal:
  • Timestamp [06:57] – Discussions emerge about another juror possibly being dismissed for unauthorized case discussions.
  • Privacy and Legalities: The hosts ponder the legal implications of a juror handing over their phone to the judge, questioning whether jurors have the right to privacy in such situations.

Notable Incident: Kanye West in the Courtroom A surprising moment occurred when Kanye West briefly entered the courtroom to support Diddy.

• Courtroom Appearance:
  • Timestamp [09:35] – TJ Holmes describes, “Kanye west... walked into the courtroom to support his friend Diddy... he did not wait in line.”
  • Purpose: While his appearance was intended as a show of support, it raised questions about the nature and impact of celebrity involvement in legal proceedings.

Key Testimonies and Evidence The heart of the episode revolves around testimonies from key witnesses and the presentation of critical evidence by the prosecution.

• Jonathan Perez's Testimony:

  • Timestamp [11:07] – Jonathan Perez, Diddy's assistant, reveals detailed accounts of illegal activities, including drug distribution and orchestrated sex parties referred to as "freak offs."
  • Prosecution's Strategy: Perez’s admissions are pivotal in establishing a pattern of racketeering and associating Diddy with criminal enterprises.

• Text Message Evidence:

  • Timestamps [24:53] & [26:22] – The prosecution presents text messages between Diddy’s staff, including Chief of Staff Christina Quorum, highlighting discussions about drug procurement and logistics for the "freak offs."
  • Notable Quote [26:22] – Tom Yamas remarks, “Diddy apparently texts exactly that he wants 15 pills of Molly from KK and then telling her not to text more about it.”

• Chief of Staff Christina Quorum:

  • Timestamp [25:23] – Despite her apparent knowledge and involvement, Christina Quorum is strategically excluded from testifying. The hosts speculate on the reasons, suggesting it’s to prevent further incrimination.
  • Defense Perspective: By not calling Quorum, the prosecution avoids having her testify against Diddy, potentially weakening their case.

Defense's Position and Future Proceedings The defense appears poised to challenge the prosecution's claims, especially concerning the jury's composition and the credibility of key testimonies.

• Mistrial Considerations:

  • Timestamp [04:53] – TJ Holmes anticipates the defense might request a mistrial due to juror dismissal but remains skeptical about its success.

• Upcoming Witnesses:

  • Timestamp [29:00] – The hosts mention that the prosecution plans to call several more witnesses, including law enforcement agents and former assistants like Brendan Paul, to further solidify their case.

Conclusion and Ongoing Coverage As the trial progresses into its sixth full week, the podcast emphasizes the complexity and high stakes involved.

• Closing Remarks:

  • Timestamp [29:49] – Tom Yamas states, “We will keep you updated on all the latest developments from that courtroom in lower Manhattan where all eyes have been on it for six weeks now.”

• Invitation to Listeners: The hosts encourage listeners to stay tuned for continuous, in-depth analysis and updates on the trial’s progression.

Notable Quotes

1. Tom Yamas [04:04]: “The judge said that juror number six appeared to be shading his answers to try and remain on the jury, which is a big red flag in terms of credibility.”
2. TJ Holmes [05:36]: “It's probably impossible to overlook Diddy in the 90s if you liked hip hop, quite frankly.”
3. Tom Yamas [14:17]: “Can you keep being victimized? That is absolutely the prosecution trying to frame all this.”
4. TJ Holmes [26:22]: “Diddy apparently texts exactly that he wants 15 pills of Molly from KK and then telling her not to text more about it.”

Final Thoughts This episode provides a comprehensive overview of the tumultuous events within the Diddy trial, highlighting procedural challenges, strategic legal maneuvers, and the deep-seated issues at play. With Aubrey O’Day’s insider perspective, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of the trial's dynamics, making it an essential listen for those following this high-stakes legal battle.

Transcript

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[Tom Yamas]

We have been talking about him for days now. And finally the judge in this case decided first thing Monday morning that juror number six was going to be off the jury. That's following through with what he suggested he was going to do on Friday. But this Juror is a 41 year old black man who works at a correctional facility. The problem is he told the court during jury selection that he lived in the Bronx. Well, then he mentioned to a staffer in the court that he lived in New Jersey and that he sometimes lives in the Bronx with his aunt. And so the judge felt in this case that his credibility was shot, it was gone and he had to be removed.

[TJ]

Look, it's, it's that simple. If you don't live in New York, you're not eligible to serve on this jury. The judge had some kind of stronger words and sound like the guy was intentionally being deceptive and lying. He used the word shade at one point, but said the guy's trying to stay on the jury.

[Tom Yamas]

He said the record raised serious concerns as to the juror's candor. And yes, he said that he, the juror number six appeared to be shading his answers to try and remain on the jury, which is a big red flag in terms of credibility.

[TJ]

Yeah, if anybody tries to change their answer to stay on a jury. Who wants to stay on a jury?

[Tom Yamas]

Not me. So most people that I know try to get out of jury duty altogether. But. So who is his replacement? Juror number six is excused. In comes a 57 year old accountant from Westchester County. He is a white male. He will replace juror number six, who was a black male. And that raised some concerns for the defense. They certainly brought it up a couple of times.

[TJ]

Look, this is going to be, they will probably ask for a mistrial. Over this won't get it. But look, this is a guy who by all accounts from the courtroom, if there was a way to read the jury, if you had to guess which way this guy was leaning, he seemed to be leaning towards Diddy's camp, if you will, in that this was the guy that courtroom observer said even Diddy was acknowledging and looking at and possibly shaking his head at at times and interacting with to a certain degree.

[Tom Yamas]

And this was the juror who also said when he was questioned initially that he was a big fan of 90s hip hop. So I believe your, your assessment of the situation is most likely correct.

[TJ]

Okay. He probably, it's probably impossible to overlook diddy in the 90s if you liked hip hop, quite frankly. So he's probably heard of him. But it's weird to think that a guy is trying to. That's tough. So they. What was it they. So the back and forth gave one answer. I live in the Bronx having a conversation. He said, well, live in New Jersey most of the time. But then we was questioned by the court over this and still kind of flip flopped on his answer. When the judge asked him, they wanted possibly to bring him back in to talk to the judge. The judge says, for what? Like, I don't, I don't trust anything he's going to say. Now we're done.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[TJ]

And just let him go first thing. Did not even want to hear another word.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[TJ]

About it.

[Tom Yamas]

Again, anyone who's trying to not just get on a jury, but then stay on a jury, you got a motive for that? 100%. That is such a good way to put it. There had to be a motive. Now there is potentially an issue with another juror, this time over conversations we know it's a. He may have had with a colleague. We don't have much more information than that. But these jurors are absolutely told by the judge, you cannot discuss this case with anyone. You cannot research this case. You cannot go online and Google this case. But if it's determined that a juror in fact did do that, that is absolutely grounds for dismissal.

[TJ]

I think the judge said he's going to take this one up at the end of the day. And this was a juror, I believe they have. They took a look at his phone already. So this juror, what in the world is going on? I took a look at his phone. If this juror was stupid enough to text something about the trial, kind of give me a break on that one.

[Tom Yamas]

It's wild though. If he texted something or said Something to a colleague. The colleague then had to go tell someone who told someone or directly contacted the court. But it's interesting, I mean, we have, obviously we've conjectured in other podcasts that it's hard to imagine that any of these jurors, even though they're instructed to sequester themselves, so to speak, when it comes to the jury, or, excuse me, when it comes to the trial, it's hard to imagine that people. Human nature is human nature actually do that.

[TJ]

Yes.

[Tom Yamas]

So now you've got somebody who's just kind of being told or called out.

[TJ]

About it to look at. I mean, that is, Isn't that a done deal? Isn't that a rap? If you've talked to somebody about it and they know you've done it, then if it's automatic dismissal.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. The reports I'm seeing is that the juror had to hand his phone to the judge.

[TJ]

Oh, man.

[Tom Yamas]

The judge said, give me your phone. He had to give it to him. And so, yeah, if there's anything incriminating on that phone, do you have to legally. Legally speak?

[TJ]

So kind of does he have a right to your phone?

[Tom Yamas]

I feel like that's a really good question.

[TJ]

How's it going?

[Tom Yamas]

Knowing me, like, sir, yes, of course I'll give it to you. I think you kind of have to. A judge. When a judge tells you to do something, don't you have to do it?

[TJ]

I don't know. But some violation, that's my privacy. You don't have a right to look into my phone. Or does the judge say, okay, let me see your phone or you're off this jury? Maybe, maybe that's something. And also the other question I have now, we need a legal expert. What if he was googling something about the trial? Is that grounds for dismissal? You look at the phone and Google searches are 100%. That's also as well.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes.

[TJ]

Wow. Okay, so all that drama.

[Tom Yamas]

I know you, if anyone asked you to hand over your phone, you'd say and goodbye.

[TJ]

I'm out.

[Tom Yamas]

Alternate number two, come on up Europe.

[TJ]

I had things to do next week anyway. But he's. He's out. The. That question about this is a very diverse. I don't have it in front of me. I'm sorry. But they did say this is a very diverse jury. But still you just swapped out one black 90s hip hop New Yorker for a white 56 year old Westchester county living dude.

[Tom Yamas]

Very different perspectives potentially on life.

[TJ]

And so you see why the defense might have been fighting tooth and nail. To hold on to that guy.

[Tom Yamas]

That is certainly why. All right, so before we get into the testimony that's going on today, or do we want to do that first? Because I can't wait.

[TJ]

Go ahead and do your Kanye.

[Tom Yamas]

I can't wait to get to Kanye.

[TJ]

Go ahead, do your Kanye.

[Tom Yamas]

Because what was that on Friday? Huge uproar. The press starts racing and running and chasing because all of a sudden, in walks Kanye west, or I guess we're only supposed to call him. Yay.

[TJ]

That is correct.

[Tom Yamas]

Now, yes, dressed in all white, walking into that courtroom to support his friend Diddy. But he kind of had to do a walk of shame on the way back. Right.

[TJ]

He wasn't in there that. Anywhere from 30 to 40 minutes, perhaps. But we've talked about here. You're not allowed to just walk into the courtroom. You can't even. You have to get on a list actually, to do so. So obviously, he didn't get there early.

[Tom Yamas]

He didn't wait in line.

[TJ]

He did.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. He didn't want to wait in line. That's shocking.

[TJ]

But he went in from the reports inside the courthouse. He went to the overflow room, stayed only for a short time, and he came right back out. So he only supported his friend for 30, 40 minutes, but didn't get to lay eyes on him.

[Tom Yamas]

Fairly certain he was looking for the photo op of supporting his friends.

[TJ]

Oh, stop.

[Tom Yamas]

I mean, no, but that's a show of support. You show up to the courtro, you know right where the cameras are. You have your photo taken. Here I am supporting Diddy. It was less about hearing the trial to that point.

[TJ]

Now, that isn't. I didn't think. You're thinking like a PR person. We should know this. But, yes, it is a public show of support, even if Diddy has no idea he was there.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, he didn't have to say one word to Diddy. He didn't have to say anything to the cameras. Just his mere presence there. And he walked in with one of Diddy's sons, I believe. So clearly, with the family walking in, he probably. I don't even know if he even watched or listened to the trial. It was just, I'm gonna be here. I'll stay for long enough so people will think I absorbed some of what happened, and then I'll walk out.

[TJ]

30 minutes, though, bro. You gotta give me more than 30.

[Tom Yamas]

He got the gist of it. I think that's where he was.

[TJ]

You can't go to a Broadway show and see 30 minutes of it and walk out going you know what? I got the gist. That was good enough.

[Tom Yamas]

Come on. It was a show. The political theater that was going on there certainly was incredible because we heard from Jonathan Perez, who was the assistant to Diddy for the three years that led right up to his arrest. So he certainly had to take again a. What he was given an immunity deal as well.

[TJ]

So a lot of that going around.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes, it's kind of like on repeat. And I never know quite how to phrase it. He took an immunity deal.

[TJ]

Is that they had to give him one. How was the. Yeah, he's been granted immunity. The way to do it. And a lot of them have to because they were buying drugs, transporting drugs, and doing things. So the government wants their testimony.

[Tom Yamas]

Well, they need. It's ironic, or at least it's interesting. They need the employees to admit that they committed illegal acts on behalf of Diddy in order to prove what they're trying to say Diddy did, which is racketeering, et cetera. And so they have to damn themselves, so to speak. And so they have to get immunity in order to testify. All right, so what did we learn about freak offs that we didn't already know, tj, you know, it's weird to.

[TJ]

Think that we are still learning, but yeah, this Jonathan Perez, even though he did and he was a part of these freak offs and setting up these. Okay, this was another thing that jumped out. Do you catch this for Cassie Ventura? Fine. They were called freak offs. For another woman, they were called hotel knights. For somebody else, they called king nights. So they were all the same thing, but called different names depending on who the woman was.

[Tom Yamas]

Maybe it was different eras of their sex parties. And that way they could remember. All right, if we call them this, that's with her. If we call them the other, it's with the other girl.

[TJ]

Hotel nights has just a much better ring to it than freak offs.

[Tom Yamas]

Freak offs are scary.

[TJ]

Hotel nights.

[Tom Yamas]

Hotel nights sound fun.

[TJ]

Well, listen to the fun at this hotel night. But yeah, he. Extra details you mentioned. He said there were times he would set up an IV for the women to recover after a freak off.

[Tom Yamas]

Think about that.

[TJ]

That you need fluids. You need to be.

[Tom Yamas]

You need IV fluids after going for that long with a sex party. They already had them prearranged and set up, ready to keep. It's just. It's amazing to me that the length and the intensity with which these parties.

[TJ]

Took place, all the deep. This is the. That's the first time I've heard this detail. But of all the details, we've heard in all of these hotel nights you'd have to have an iv, it sounds like, I mean, I'm like, wow, that's good medical attention to a certain degree. I'm, I say that somewhat jokingly, but I'm just, wow, that makes sense.

[Tom Yamas]

Doesn't it also lend itself to that thinks about you think about physical abuse. I mean, I know people do this when they have a hard night of partying. They'll go to an IV drip. But that's like self imposed, you know, just bad behavior. Right. You're just dealing with the consequences of your choices. But this seems like there's an acknowledgment that there's physical damage being done to everyone who is participating.

[TJ]

You're helping your victim recover, I'm sure is how the prosecutor so that they.

[Tom Yamas]

Can keep being victimized is how the.

[TJ]

Prosecution is trying to frame all this. He did say Jane, who was on the stand, I think she testified longer than anybody and just wrapped up what, last week?

[Tom Yamas]

Yes.

[TJ]

Said never saw her robes at any point. Hesitant, unhappy, anything other than enthusiastic to participate. Now that could mean she was putting on and that's all he saw, was her putting on in front of Diddy. Or it could mean what the defense is trying to prove, which is that she was a enthusiastic consensual participant. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Today I'm thrilled to welcome back to On Purpose Cynthia Erivo, a Grammy, Emmy.

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[Tom Yamas]

And then what was this about Tom Ford shorts that she went out and purchased before freak offs because she liked them.

[TJ]

She, he provided Tom Ford shorts for her. She always made sure she went to the salon and got dolled up for them. Now, you can always argue this was stuff she was trying to do to make Diddy happy, but the defense will see that as look at her, she was getting ready for her, cheated herself for her big night.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, she was getting all the, you know, glam squad business going just to participate and to perform, so to speak, in these freak offs that of course the defense says she was happily willing to attend. And it seems Jonathan Perez is agreeing with that way of assessing it. He also talked about how he would go and get cocaine, Molly, Xanax for Diddy. So he actually completely admitted being a drug mule, so to speak, for Diddy.

[TJ]

That's I mean, these guys are committing crimes. They absolutely lutely are. You know, we. Look, this is not somebody who is. We talk about being. Look, we've heard people testify about physical abuse, sexual abuse on the stand. This is a guy who's suffering a different type of humiliation almost. He's had to get on the stand and under oath, admit that he was literally committing crimes on a regular basis almost on this guy's behalf. That's got to be. It's a different type of humiliation they're having to deal with right now.

[Tom Yamas]

And I don't, I don't know that we got his salary. I don't remember. But every single other assistant who had to do almost. Well, they testify that they had to do almost very similar menial tasks and illegal tax tasks, got paid between like 50, $65,000. So it's not like they were getting rich off of doing something that could have absolutely landed each of them behind bars. So it's interesting that they did it for so little money, but they were doing it for Diddy and perhaps just to be in his world and to have him take notice of them and perhaps hoping it was an investment in their career.

[TJ]

He also mentioned sometimes they get a two hour to a two day notice to set up for these free calls. He said not everything. They had to have everything in the room to where he wouldn't have to be bothered for 24 to 48 hours. So every bit of food, water, snacks, drugs, just the room had to be stocked to where we ain't gonna see Diddy for two days.

[Tom Yamas]

That's insane. Can you imagine going away for two days, having people prep your world for that and all the while have them, according to the testimony, commit illegal acts to make this all work? That's like crazy. And this wasn't a one off. This wasn't once a year on special occasions. We're talking sometimes once or twice a week, according to people who have been testifying. I don't know how anyone has that much stamina. I know drugs were involved to create that kind of stamina.

[TJ]

But see the Gucci bag even still.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. Let's talk about what's in the Gucci bag. So there was a Gucci bag and there were some must haves that the Gucci bag had to be stocked with cash, cocaine, Ketamine, Adderall, Xanax and Molly. My God, I can't imagine I travel.

[TJ]

With Advil and Chapstick. Those are my must haves. You know what?

[Tom Yamas]

Kind of the same for me. That's Kind of it. I need some Advil every now and then. I might. I might want some Melatonin.

[TJ]

Claritin.

[Tom Yamas]

Claritin. Okay. Yeah, that's. That's our big medicine bag.

[TJ]

Wow. Very small bag.

[Tom Yamas]

Wow. And it's not in a Gucci bag either.

[TJ]

It's not either. Why would you carry our little nothing in a Gucci bag? No, it's just remarkable. Now this is. I'm smiling here now. And Jonathan told. Gave this detail, but he was going through a lot of text messages that been going through in court in which he was going back and forth with the chief of staff, KK that we've been hearing so much about. We need to give an update on her in just a second. But he was going back and forth. This is a funny detail. KK Was asking about how things were going with the setup and then the cleanup of the hotel room. And he wrote back, it was kind of jokingly, I've only slipped on baby oil twice.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah.

[TJ]

That he said he actually fell slipping around on baby oil. That's just, you know, you got a little comic relief. We got to take a. Take them when we can get them. But that's another little.

[Tom Yamas]

Well, and. And with what's been going on today. So it's. It seems like kind of a menial, even maybe boring start to the day with the testimony. But it's a paralegal for the prosecution who was going through meticulously some of the texts and explaining the text, giving context to the jurors about what it is that they're hearing and seeing. And some of the conversation between KK this is again Combs, chief of staff and different assistants or even some of the victims is incredibly eye opening. I think it's been fascinating to hear some of the details that are found in these texts.

[TJ]

Texts. I'm looking. What is her. Remind me. Corum. What is her first name? K.K. christina.

[Tom Yamas]

Christina.

[TJ]

Christina Quorum. That we've heard so much about his chief of staff. We've heard now that she will not be called by the prosecution, at least to testify. They've kind of framed her and a lot of this as a co conspirator in this whole thing. So many of these texts, she was aware. She knew she helped set up. She was aware of the violence. She was aware of everything. But they don't want to call her.

[Tom Yamas]

That's really interesting to me because these texts are fascinating. One of them. So you mentioned kind of the light hearted jokes. Combs assistant ryan Lopez texted KK this is in December of 2019. Lol. I think I saw one of the cowboys today. You can spot them in a lobby like an escort. I forgot to tell you about. KK writes back with four laughing face emojis. By the way, how long is he going to stay awake? Lopez says, lol. I'm guessing until tomorrow night. So they're back and forth, his staff laughing and teasing about these freak offs, these sex parties, these hotel nights, back and forth among their employees.

[TJ]

Why did you just go right past the Cowboys and.

[Tom Yamas]

Okay, yes, well, I was going to say we needed to discuss because that was also something that came up in testimony today in the. From the text messages that yes, Diddy apparently freak frequently used this escort service called Cowboys and Cowboys for Angels.

[TJ]

What does that mean?

[Tom Yamas]

It means if you're an angel, we've got a cowboy for you.

[TJ]

Oh, sorry, I didn't put that.

[Tom Yamas]

Cowboys for Angels.

[TJ]

Oh, okay. Sorry. Gotcha.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes. So yeah, that was, that was a fun little service that I'm sure is really appreciating all the extra attention they are getting to.

[TJ]

That's what they meant by I bet you could spot a cowboy in a lobby.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes, no, I know. I was like, should I explain that now or should I wait until after I reference the text exchange? But it's just interesting how they were joking around these.

[TJ]

Everybody knew.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, exactly.

[TJ]

Everybody. Office buzz water cooler talk at bad boy. Yes, Everybody apparently knew what was going on.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah. And there are very specific texts between diddy and between KK where Diddy apparently texts exactly that he wants 15 pills of Molly from KK and then telling her not to text more about it. So I mean, this is really irrefutable evidence that the jury was hearing today from the prosecution.

[TJ]

You bring us now to another point about KK here. There was an incident with this video that Jonathan talked about. He was at Diddy's home and he said he was in one room and heard somebody screaming in the next room. And the person screaming in the next room was a videographer who had just found a freak off video on an employee iPad. Right. So just shocked the hell out of him. He starts screaming. So Jonathan, the assistant reports it to Diddy and he reports it to KK and KK tells him, next time don't report it to Diddy, just bring it to me.

[Tom Yamas]

Yeah, she managed. She managed everything. She was managing Cassie Ventura when Cassie told her basically no one deserves to be dragged by their hair after she said that Diddy did just that to her. And so KK is literally trying to just Massage everything to make everything better. Saying, hey, I don't know why Diddy's acting out. You need to stay focused on your career. I'll try to handle it. But yes, it's irrefutable when you, when.

[TJ]

You look at these texts, seemingly aware of everything. So we were talking earlier, so why wouldn't they call her if. Right. She's aware of all this stuff.

[Tom Yamas]

Interesting.

[TJ]

Like they will put her up there. She's not going to admit to all this stuff, is she? Because this.

[Tom Yamas]

No.

[TJ]

By their own.

[Tom Yamas]

Take the Fifth.

[TJ]

They say all of these are crimes that she's a part of. So she would get up there and just plead the Fifth all day long. Can't give her immunity because they are already accusing her of essentially committing crimes. So what do you do with her? The defense is not gonna. They can't call her.

[Tom Yamas]

I can't imagine they would want to.

[TJ]

Call her because then the prosecution gets to have their way with her.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes. And I'm curious, I'm curious if she will be facing charges as well after this. They have not charged her yet, we should point out. So it's fascinating. And of course we're just in terms of following this and trying to interpret it. Obviously neither one of us have legal degrees, but it, we have covered plenty of court cases in our decades of experience and this is one like I have never seen before in my life, in my career. And so it remains to be seen what will happen with kk, but I think we can feel pretty certain she will not be taking the stand in this DD trial.

[TJ]

We are expecting, what, five more witnesses? I believe the. Excuse me, prosecution says they're going to have. Help me with who. It's going to be a couple of summary witnesses like the one up there kind of explaining the text messages. One law enforcement agent and then Brendan Paul. Is that his name?

[Tom Yamas]

The Brendan Paul?

[TJ]

Brendan Paul was a former assistant as well.

[Tom Yamas]

Yes. So we will keep you updated on all the latest developments from that courtroom in lower Manhattan where all eyes have been on it for six weeks now. We thank you for listening to us and we hope you all have a wonderful day.

[TJ]

Foreign hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Today. I'm thrilled to welcome back to On Purpose Cynthia Erivo, a Grammy, Emmy and.

[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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[TJ]

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[Tom Yamas]

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