The Diddy Trial: “Highly Insulted” Juror Speaks Out

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial

Episode: The Diddy Trial: “Highly Insulted” Juror Speaks Out
Release Date: July 4, 2025
Host/Authors: Cindy Crawford, Bubba Wallace (acting as journalists in this transcript)
Presented By: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In this compelling episode of Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial, hosts Cindy Crawford and Bubba Wallace delve deep into the intricacies of the high-profile trial involving Sean "Diddy" Combs. The episode provides exclusive insights from jurors who participated in the trial, shedding light on the deliberation process and the factors influencing the final verdict.

Juror Insights: George Speaks Out [03:08 - 08:01]

Bub Wallace introduces the episode by highlighting a significant development: an alternate juror identified only as "George" has come forward to share his perspective on the trial.

• George's Observations on "Freak Off" Videos:
  • [03:51] Cindy Crawford: "He actually saw it and look, they didn't show them everything but they saw sweetheart, on some days, 40 I remember 40 minute video that was played."
  • [04:12] Crawford: "It was just basically a lot of people rubbing baby oil on one another and not a lot of sex."

George expressed that the "freak off" videos, often sensationalized in the media, appeared relatively tame to him, focusing more on social interactions than explicit sexual activity.

• Defense's Strategy:
  • [04:44] Bub Wallace: "The defense definitely tried to show excerpts of these freak offs sex parties where they were just kind of hanging out and chilling and playing music and talking."
  • [05:17] Crawford: "They wanted to see or at least show the jurors that it wasn't all sex fuel, that there were other elements and other aspects to these parties beyond sex."

The defense aimed to portray these gatherings as social events rather than purely transactional or exploitative meetings.

• George's Verdict Alignment:
  • [06:44] Crawford: "He said I understand why they came up with that mixed verdict. And he said I'm almost certain that that would have been the verdict I would have agreed to present as well."
  • [07:28] Bub Wallace: Discusses Dawn Richard, a key witness whose credibility George questioned, noting the defense effectively discredited her testimony.

George affirmed his agreement with the jury's mixed verdict, indicating a belief that the prosecution did not sufficiently prove the racketeering and sex trafficking charges.

Credibility of Witnesses [07:28 - 12:14]

The discussion shifts to the credibility of key witnesses, particularly Dawn Richard and Cassie Ventura.

• Dawn Richard's Credibility:
  • [08:01] Crawford: "He said she was not very credible. That is how he put it."
  • [11:52] Crawford: "He said he did not think that either one of those women were forced to do what they did."

George remained unconvinced by the testimonies of both Richard and Ventura, despite acknowledging their experiences. He believed their participation was voluntary, undermining the prosecution's claims of coercion and trafficking.

• Public Perception vs. Juror Insight:
  • [12:14] Bub Wallace: "But it doesn't mean that you were forced to do something against your will."
  • [12:30] Crawford: Highlights the juror's belief in the credibility of the witnesses while still doubting the forced nature of their actions.

Defense's Impact on Jury Perception [13:08 - 18:37]

The defense's efforts to undermine the prosecution's case played a pivotal role in shaping the jury's perception.

• Defense's Takedown of Witnesses:
  • [07:56] Bub Wallace: "So they didn't, at least according to this juror, didn't buy her for a second, it seems."
  • [08:45] Crawford: "He wrote that the defense had a takedown of her."

The juror, George, felt that the defense effectively discredited key witnesses, leading him and possibly other jurors to dismiss their testimonies.

• Juror's Pre-Trial Doubts:
  • [09:08] Bub Wallace: "He said before the case even started, he came in with a doubt about, like, why are we. Why are we talking about racketeering."
  • [09:42] Crawford: Discusses the complexity of racketeering charges and how jurors like George found the prosecution's case difficult to substantiate.

George entered the trial with skepticism about the prosecution's ability to prove racketeering and conspiracy charges, which influenced his interpretation of the evidence presented.

Unnamed Juror's Perspective [20:01 - 25:31]

Adding another layer to the discussion, an unnamed juror briefly shares their experience and reactions to the trial's outcome.

• Commitment to Fairness:
  • [20:10] Bub Wallace: "They said our decision was based solely on the evidence presented and how the law is stated."
  • [20:12] Crawford: "We spent over two days deliberating."

The unnamed juror emphasized that their decision was grounded in evidence and legal standards, rejecting notions that celebrity influence swayed the verdict.

• Defense Against Outrage Claims:
  • [21:15] Crawford: "The jurors did an incredible civic duty."
  • [21:18] Bub Wallace: Discusses the public's varied reactions, noting that while some are disappointed, there isn't widespread outrage over the verdict.

The juror and hosts suggest that the verdict reflects a balanced judicial process, despite polarized public opinions.

Conclusion: Reflections on the Verdict [25:31 - 27:28]

Crawford and Wallace reflect on the broader implications of the trial and jury deliberations.

• Legal and Social Implications:
  • [23:55] Crawford: "But if he had gotten off completely, you would have seen a lot more outrage from those groups who feel like their side wasn't taken seriously enough."
  • [24:24] Bub Wallace: "If we were told he was found guilty of racketeering and he's facing life in prison, I think there might have been more outrage as well."

The hosts acknowledge that extreme verdicts, whether full acquittal or conviction, could have elicited stronger public reactions, suggesting that the mixed verdict represents a middle ground.

• Juror's Civic Responsibility:
  • [26:23] Crawford: "They did an incredible civic duty and we appreciate their time."
  • [26:25] Bub Wallace: Emphasizes respect and understanding for jurors' experiences and decisions.

Crawford and Wallace commend the jurors for their dedication and impartiality, recognizing the complexities they faced during the trial.

Key Takeaways

• Juror Perspectives: Alternate and unnamed jurors provided candid insights into their deliberations, highlighting doubts about the prosecution's case and the effectiveness of the defense.

• Witness Credibility: The defense's strategy to undermine key witnesses played a critical role in shaping the jury's skepticism towards the prosecution's claims.

• Verdict Implications: The mixed verdict reflects a nuanced judicial outcome, balancing the evidence and legal standards without succumbing to external pressures or celebrity influence.

• Civic Duty Appreciation: Hosts emphasized the importance of respecting jurors' roles and the complexities they navigate in high-stakes trials.

Notable Quotes

• George on Verdict Alignment:
  “I'm almost certain that that would have been the verdict I would have agreed to present as well.” ([06:53])

• Defense's Impact on Credibility:
  “He wrote that the defense had a takedown of her.” ([08:45])

• Unnamed Juror on Decision Basis:
  “Our decision was based solely on the evidence presented and how the law is stated.” ([20:12])

• Reflection on Jury Role:
  “They did an incredible civic duty and we appreciate their time.” ([26:23])

Conclusion

This episode offers a rare glimpse into the inner workings of a jury deliberation in a high-profile case. Through candid discussions with jurors, Cindy Crawford and Bubba Wallace illuminate the challenges and responsibilities juries face in delivering justice. The balanced verdict in the Diddy Trial underscores the complexities of the legal system and the importance of impartiality and evidence-based decision-making.

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Hey there folks. It is Friday 4th of July 2025. We are hopping on here because we have heard for the first time from a juror in the Diddy trial a bunch of stuff to go through. One of the highlights, at least for me, the freak offs were tame. And welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rose. We didn't expect to do an update today. So much interest in this and yes, it is a holiday. But we're hopping on because we're hearing from a juror for the first time. That is a big deal. We're getting a lot of insights. But you looked at me funny when I said that was a highlight. But some of the stuff, that's one of the things that jumped out. We heard so much about freak offs. Someone who actually saw a freak off video is telling us it was kind of tame.

[Cindy Crawford]

Yeah. Said it was just basically a lot of people rubbing baby oil on one another and not a lot of sex. So that was interesting. He pointed out George, he was an alternate juror who gave this detail, but he claimed that as they were watching the videos it sounded or seemed salacious, but actually it was tame. That is the word he used.

[Bubba Wallace]

Isn't that wild to think all this we've heard and all of this we think of how nasty and we hear how people have described them. He actually saw it and look, they didn't show them everything but they saw sweetheart, on some days, 40 I remember 40 minute video that was played.

[Cindy Crawford]

I mean I don't know what this alternate juror's perspective is. It might not have seemed tame to me. You know, that is something to consider. It's through the eyes, through his lens, which might be different than my lens.

[Bubba Wallace]

Relatively speaking it was. Oh, that was nothing. You should see the stuff. I know, right?

[Cindy Crawford]

No, but who knows? Some people have a lot of experience in looking at certain types of maybe they thought the quality was too homemade or who knows what his perspective was. But it was interesting and the point being, the defense definitely tried to show excerpts of these freak offs sex parties where they were just kind of hanging out and chilling and playing music and talking. They wanted to see or at least show the jurors that it wasn't all sex fuel, that there were other elements and other aspects to these parties beyond sex.

[Bubba Wallace]

Okay. And we should be clear about who we're talking about. This person has been only identified as George, no last name. He did, however, put his face in front of a camera. He did do an interview with cnn. He also did an interview with the New York Times, but they're not giving his full identity. But beyond just calling him George, I thought in something you just said robes, it stood out to me as much as we've been talking about in public and maybe in press and even tabloid press. Freak off, freak off, freak off. I heard him during the interview. He kept referring to it as a hotel night. Like it seemed as if everything salacious. We think, we think about freak offs. He, as a juror who has more access to any of this stuff than we do, seemed to have a different tone in talking about these.

[Cindy Crawford]

He did. And it was interesting too. Just this is somebody who said he. I think he said he took more than 300 pages of notes, 350 pages of notes during this trial because he wanted to remember what he thought. He thought maybe he could be deliberating. So he was preparing himself to make the decision. But yes, hearing it from his perspective, someone who sat in that courtroom day in and day out and took copious notes, it didn't feel as salacious coming from him hearing his impressions. And he had very specific thoughts about how he thought the prosecution did, how he thought the defense did, which witnesses he thought were credible, which ones he thought weren't as credible.

[Bubba Wallace]

And first and foremost, he did not. He was not in the deliberation room. But he was asked his opinion about the decision that the jury made. He said absolutely, he agrees 100%.

[Cindy Crawford]

Yep. He said, I understand why they came up with that mixed verdict. And he said, I'm almost certain that that would have been the verdict I would have agreed to present as well. So he said he would be. He would have been in that unanimous decision. And he didn't think that the government met the RICO charges. He didn't think the government meant the sex trafficking charges. And he thought the defense did an excellent job at discrediting several witnesses. He said, with one witness in particular, he described. He went back and looked at his notes and said it was a takedown by the defense. He wanted to remember key moments in the trial.

[Bubba Wallace]

Stay on that point. Dawn Richard. Dawn Richard was a problem. She was up there. I can't remember how many days. But she was a key, key witness who talked about what she saw. Violence against Cassie Ventura, fine. But the defense went at her, went at her hard. And some people that look in some circles think she was a. I guess a minion, if you will. She was doing a lot of his bidding and now has come out. She's suing him. Right. Civil law.

[Cindy Crawford]

She is suing him, yes.

[Bubba Wallace]

So they didn't, at least according to this juror, didn't buy her for a second, it seems.

[Cindy Crawford]

And that's true. And you know what he even said it wasn't even with the Cassie Ventura and the money. We've talked about this before. That took away some of the credibility from some of these key witnesses. He said that was not the issue. She just. He specifically said she was not very credible. That is how he put it. And yes, that he wrote that the defense had a takedown of her. And so it seemed like he and perhaps even other jurors had lost all. I mean, once the defense and even the judge said this, if you don't think someone's credible, something they said was incredible, you can basically eliminate all of their testimony from your consider for your consideration. And it sounds like that's what George was prepared to do.

[Bubba Wallace]

It sound like he'd put. He singled her out.

[Cindy Crawford]

He did.

[Bubba Wallace]

Absolutely did. I mean, he sounds like he didn't buy anything in the rest of his. And again, he said a lot of them, they had lunch together every day, but they abided by the rules. They didn't discuss this or anything. But if this one guy sitting through it, he had. He was very strong in his react when he was asked. He was very direct in answering about Dawn Richard, who you had a problem with credibility wise. Oh, yeah.

[Cindy Crawford]

He dropped her name immediately.

[Bubba Wallace]

You listen to him immediately. The other thing Robes that was fascinating to me is that he said they walked in into the room with doubt. Right. It's reasonable doubt is what the. The bar is supposed to be. Not all doubt, but a reasonable doubt. So he said before the case even started, he came in with a doubt about, like, why are we. Why are we here almost? Why are we talking about racketeering? The prosecution seemed like they had a very, very steep hill to climb before the case even started. Before you opening argument.

[Cindy Crawford]

Yes. And you know, obviously laypeople like you and I, we've talked about how Racketeering and conspiracy charges are confusing, complex. And yes, we think of them when we think of mob bosses, we think of them when we think about criminal enterprises. We don't think about someone who is using sex for pleasure in perhaps you could say deviant ways or even just in non traditional ways. But you wouldn't put racketeering and conspiracy charges with that. And so, yes, to hear him say that he. And he said he believed other jurors walked into the trial thinking, how are they going to prove this? So it was as if the cards were already stacked against the prosecution. And sort of what we talked about in a previous podcast, that when you overreach, when you try to, people aren't dumb. Even if we aren't legal minds or we haven't been trained in the law specifically, we still get the fact that that didn't make a lot of sense and was going to be an uphill battle. And it proved to be for sure know what?

[Bubba Wallace]

I am. And I think a lot, in a lot of ways, robes. And reading this juror in particular, I felt validated. And I say that in that the last, probably at least three, but certainly two weeks of this trial, you and I were having different conversations about. Wait a minute, that doesn't make sense. Wait there. That's a little bit of a stretch, isn't it? They're going that far. He is saying some of the same exact doubts, like, oh, I didn't think that, or I didn't think that, or that was a. It seems like a lot of people were viewing this case from the outside. Exactly. Like the people in that jury box were viewing it.

[Cindy Crawford]

Exactly, exactly. And when he started talking about the credibility of other witnesses, specifically, he was asked about Cassie Ventura. Fine. And he first of all wanted to say, both with Cassie and with Jane, he did not believe after hearing their testimony that either one of them were sex trafficked. He said that he did not think that that sex was forced ever. And so he said he not only watched the footage, but listening to the testimony. All of those things in his mind made him believe that both of those women were there because they wanted to be okay.

[Bubba Wallace]

And the other thing he said about them is what they were both credible. I believe they went through what they went through. But then at the same time, I wouldn't have voted to convict him on racketeering or sex trafficking. Isn't that what the rest of the country or a lot of people in a lot of circles were saying that thing?

[Cindy Crawford]

And so both things be true.

[Bubba Wallace]

Yeah. And it's Interesting to hear him. He's the one that had to decide or the jurors had to decide. They had to make the call. We didn't. But they made the call that in a lot of ways it was fascinating to hear that. Wow. That's the exact same thing. A lot of people were thinking, yes.

[Cindy Crawford]

You can still be a victim of something, have suffered something, but not. But it doesn't mean that you were forced to do something against your will. So that's kind of interesting. And he even specifically said that Cassie was very credible. And he said I don't think she would have come here and just lied. It just didn't seem right. So they believed her and they believed Jane and they still didn't believe that either one of those women were forced to do what they did.

[Bubba Wallace]

It was interesting. George is someone he identified as someone who knew the name. He knew Sean Diddy Combs, but he said he wasn't familiar with his music.

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Yeah.

[Bubba Wallace]

Didn't know who this guy was. So celebrities wasn't a part or a factor at all for him. What. What do you. I am surprised. Why come out? Why do it? Why agree to an interview? Why go talk to the Times? Why go. Go put your face on television? Why? Why do it? This is speculative. Maybe we shouldn't. But it's just, it's just interesting.

[Cindy Crawford]

It's interesting to me that he put his face on television and I'm guessing that's his actual first name. Maybe it but he didn't want his last name used and he also said that, you know, he was concerned and the reason why he didn't want his last name used about any sort of retribution because people have strong feelings about the verdict and whether or not the jurors made the right decision. Now again, he wasn't one of the jurors in the deliberation room.

[Bubba Wallace]

So consider that he is protecting himself from a decision he didn't even have to make.

[Cindy Crawford]

Correct. But I thought it was interesting to. I mean I guess he just felt like he wasn't identifiable. But it. I don't know if he's.

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Wherever he's from, everybody knows who you are. This isn't. His identity is out there. A little bizarre, but it turns out George is not the only juror we heard from.

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Yes. Let's continue. Now, we've been talking about George. George came out, the juror, the alternate came out, did an interview with the New York Times, did an interview with cnn, didn't give his last name, but as an alternate, he didn't vote on the ultimate verdicts, but he sat through the entire trial just like the rest of the jurors. But robes, we did hear, and very briefly, from a juror who was actually in that deliberation room. And I guess it was just a couple of sentences, but I guess some insight in there as well.

[Cindy Crawford]

Yes. So the juror, it seems as if this person who did not want to reveal name, gender, nothing identifiable. So we just know it's.

[Bubba Wallace]

The juror, didn't want to be bothered, it seems.

[Cindy Crawford]

And it seems as though we don't know exactly how it happened, but some journalists must have been able to cold call this juror or run into this juror. And it was almost as if the juror didn't want to say anything but was kind of, I don't want it was he was tempted or they were tempted to talk because of the accusation that somehow jurors, these jurors were swayed by the celebrity of Diddy. There was a legal analyst and there have been legal experts who say, hey, we think that perhaps celebrity could have been a part of this. And that's why they let him off so easy without actually convicting him on the more serious charges. And so that's when this juror felt like they had to say something. And they said that that was highly insulting and belittling to the jury and the deliberation process. But the juror didn't stop there, said a few more sentences, and we think it's pretty interesting. So they went on to say this. We spent over two days deliberating. Our decision was based solely on the evidence presented and how the law is stated. We would have treated any defendant in the same manner, regardless of who they are. I have nothing else to say. That's my favorite part of the comment.

[Bubba Wallace]

But that lets you know they, they didn't want, they didn't plan to be.

[Cindy Crawford]

Talking and they didn't want to be talking.

[Bubba Wallace]

They didn't want to. So. And again, they grabbed that comment. I think, look, we got to give everybody a break. Like, we need to give whatever you think about this, you got to give these folks some grace. They spent two months of their lives during this sacrifice. And, you know, it wasn't easy in that deliberation room, you know, hearing all that stuff. They might be fearful of their own lives or families or any. This is not, this was a major and a life changing, potentially undertaking for these folks. And to just come out simply and say, you idiots are caught up in the celebrity, that is offensive, Highly offensive.

[Cindy Crawford]

And I, and I, and I do appreciate the fact that the juror did speak out on that specifically and wanted to talk to the level of professionalism among the jurors. And we, as we were following it, we saw it's a tough thing to do to sit there not only through the whole trial, but then in those deliberation rooms with 12 or 11 other people who have come from very different walks of life, who have very different opinions, who have very different lenses that they see things through. And to have to send notes and say, we can't get there, we're at a stalemate, people aren't budging. And then to see the process work the way it's supposed to, which was pretty impressive. And it seems as though the decisions they made, everyone agreed to it ultimately, which is remarkable. And yet then have it be questioned is not the way it should go.

[Bubba Wallace]

Yeah, I don't feel necessarily outrage on either side. There are people who are disappointed in some way, form or fashion. But there's, I don't feel there's an overwhelming sense in the country that a. And a severe injustice was done in the verdict. Maybe an injustice in the charges that were brought, maybe an injustice in how the case was brought, all a few other things and how the victims were let down in several ways. But the fact that the jury came to this decision, do you feel or see somewhere in some circles, I'm not seeing, No. I think that there's an outrage over this verdict.

[Cindy Crawford]

I think disappointment is a good way to put it. And there certainly we did hear from people who testified and people who put their names through the ringer to try and explain what happened to them at the hands of Diddy. So they say they were upset. I think they claimed that they're afraid. They claim that they believe Diddy is somebody who is revenge oriented or revenge seeking. And so they were concerned. And I know that there was that chatter a bit, but in terms of being outraged at the verdict, no. And I think, look, if he had gotten off completely, if he had been not guilty on all charges, I think you would have seen a lot more outrage from those groups who feel like their side wasn't taken seriously enough.

[Bubba Wallace]

No, if we were told he was found guilty of racketeering and he's facing life in prison, I think There might have been more outrage as well about that. So I think that what we always say in our careers, if we do a story about politics and Republicans and Democrats are equally upset with you, then you probably got it about right. Yeah. So in this case, it seems like there's some kind of a balance to where maybe they got it right from a public standpoint.

[Cindy Crawford]

I kind of. I agree with you on that. I think when you look at it from that perspective, 100% and I'm curious if we will hear and if any juror will actually say, I was on the jury and here's what happened. I'm curious. Maybe more time needs to pass. It's. I'm sure this is, this is something they had to take with them each night. They weren't supposed to talk about it with friends or family. So I'm sure there's so much just digest and then maybe, maybe someone would talk. But I mean, I just. In the world we live in, in social media, people are so cruel and people are like, to put your name out there, to put your face out there with a decision like that that people do have strong opinions on, I think it is a little scary and unnecessary. Do you really want to bring all the negativity that you know is coming? You know it is, but you know.

[Bubba Wallace]

Offers are coming as well.

[Cindy Crawford]

That's true. And people. There's a way for journalists to pay for certain interviews. You get paid for photos, you get paid for whatever.

[Bubba Wallace]

Certain outlets don't care and certain outlets pay regardless.

[Cindy Crawford]

Get a free trip to New York, you get an all expense.

[Bubba Wallace]

Yeah, a book deal to talk about the deliberations and the trial. The new trial of the century.

[Cindy Crawford]

Yes, that is capitalism and well, the way it works here in America. But anyway, it was interesting to get some of the details we did get from George and of course from this unidentifiable juror. But certainly just, you know, I think that they did an incredible civic duty and we appreciate their time. And I know it's. Our justice system depends on people like George and the unnamed juror. So anyway, thank you all for listening to us. Hope you got a little insight from what we're hearing from what happened inside that courtroom. But hope you have an even better 4th of July and a great weekend, everybody.

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[Rodney Williams]

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[Bubba Wallace]

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[Bubba Wallace]

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[Bubba Wallace]

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[Cindy Crawford]

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[Bubba Wallace]

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[Cindy Crawford]

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