The Diddy Trial: O.J., Scott Peterson, R. Kelley, Casey Anthony, How Long Did Those Juries Take?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amy Robach & T.J. Holmes Present: Aubrey O’Day, Covering the Diddy Trial

Release Date: July 2, 2025
Presented by: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Amy Robach, T.J. Holmes
Guest: Aubrey O’Day

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Introduction to the Diddy Trial

In this compelling episode, veteran journalists Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes team up with former pop star and Diddy’s protégé, Aubrey O’Day, to provide an in-depth analysis of the highly anticipated Diddy trial. The trio delves into every facet of the proceedings, offering unique perspectives and expert insights drawn from their diverse backgrounds.

Current Status of the Diddy Trial

As of the recording (03:28), the jury in the Diddy trial has resumed deliberations. Amy Robach introduces the session by highlighting the uncertainty surrounding the duration of the jury's decision-making process. She sets the stage for a comprehensive comparison with other high-profile trials to contextualize the ongoing proceedings.

Comparative Analysis of High-Profile Trials

1. O.J. Simpson (1995)

• Trial Duration: 8 months
• Deliberation Time: 4 hours
• Outcome: Found not guilty on two counts of murder
• Insight: Amy expresses astonishment at the brevity of the deliberation, stating, “Four hours, as crazy as that sounds...” (04:38). The swift verdict despite intense media scrutiny underscores the jury’s focus on the core question: guilt or innocence.

2. Scott Peterson

• Trial Duration: 5 months
• Deliberation Time: 7 days (initial deliberations restarted twice due to juror dismissals)
• Outcome: Found guilty on two counts of murder
• Insight: Rodney Williams notes Peterson’s ongoing legal battles with the Innocence Project, maintaining his innocence (06:39). The seven-hour final deliberation reflects the complexity introduced by juror issues.

3. Casey Anthony (2011)

• Trial Duration: Several weeks
• Deliberation Time: 10 hours over two days
• Outcome: Found not guilty of first-degree murder
• Insight: Amy highlights the shock surrounding the quick deliberation: “They decided quickly on that one” (07:28), emphasizing the unexpected nature of the verdict in a case heavily monitored by the media.

4. R. Kelly (2021)

• Trial 1: Racketeering
  • Trial Duration: 6 weeks
  • Deliberation Time: 2 days
  • Outcome: Found guilty on nine counts
• Trial 2: Child Pornography
  • Deliberation Time: 11 hours over two days
  • Outcome: Found guilty
• Insight: The dual trials and consistent deliberation times reflect the multifaceted nature of the charges against R. Kelly (09:22).

5. Menendez Brothers

• Initial Separate Trials:
  • Eric's Trial: 19 days, hung jury
  • Lyle's Trial: 25 days, hung jury
• Joint Trial:
  • Deliberation Time: 5 days
  • Outcome: Both found guilty
• Insight: Amy discusses the strategic shift to a joint trial, resulting in a more decisive verdict (11:08).

6. George Zimmerman (2013)

• Trial Duration: Several weeks
• Deliberation Time: 2 days (over 10 hours)
• Outcome: Found not guilty
• Insight: Amy underscores the intense political and racial pressures that framed the deliberations (12:17).

7. Derek Chauvin

• Trial Duration: Several weeks
• Deliberation Time: 2 days (over 10 hours)
• Outcome: Found guilty of murder
• Insight: The quick verdict in a case with global attention highlights the jury’s responsiveness to compelling evidence (19:26).

8. Michael Jackson

• Trial Duration: Unspecified
• Deliberation Time: 7 days (over 30 hours)
• Outcome: Found not guilty on all 10 counts of child molestation
• Insight: Amy reflects on the exhaustive nature of the deliberations in contrast to the final acquittal (19:30).

9. Charles Manson (1971)

• Trial Duration: Several months
• Deliberation Time: 9 days (43 hours)
• Outcome: Found guilty on 27 counts of first-degree murder and conspiracy
• Insight: The prolonged deliberation time mirrors the gravity and complexity of the charges (21:28).

Aubrey O’Day’s Perspective

Aubrey O’Day brings a unique angle to the discussion, drawing from her personal experiences and her relationship with Diddy. Her insights shed light on the media dynamics and public perceptions that often accompany such high-stakes trials. O’Day emphasizes the importance of understanding both the legal intricacies and the human elements involved.

Emotional and Psychological Toll on Jurors

Amy and Rodney Williams discuss the emotional strain on jurors handling high-profile cases. Amy muses, “How do they cope with it?” (20:42), highlighting the exhaustion and emotional burden that come with deliberating life-altering decisions under immense public scrutiny.

Jury Deliberation Integrity

The hosts emphasize the critical role of jury independence and the challenges posed by external pressures. Rodney points out the unpredictability of deliberation times, stating, “There's no rhyme or reason” (04:38). This underscores the fundamental principle that jurors must base their verdict solely on the evidence presented, free from external influences.

Concluding Thoughts

As the Diddy trial continues, Amy Robach, T.J. Holmes, and Aubrey O’Day promise ongoing, meticulous coverage. They reiterate the importance of jury deliberation integrity and the unpredictable nature of verdict timelines. The episode closes with a commitment to keep the audience informed, offering detailed analyses and expert commentary as the trial progresses towards its conclusion.

Notable Quotes

• Amy Robach on O.J. Simpson's Trial:
  “Four hours, as crazy as that sounds...” (04:38)

• Rodney Williams on Scott Peterson's Deliberation:
  “...the final jury deliberated seven hours to come up with that [guilty] verdict.” (06:39)

• Amy on Casey Anthony's Verdict:
  “They decided quickly on that one.” (07:28)

• Amy on George Zimmerman's Trial:
  “It's a difficult time for the country and the conversations we were having around that time... he was ultimately found not guilty.” (12:17)

• Amy on Jury Deliberation Pressures:
  “How do they cope with it?” (20:42)

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This episode serves as a crucial resource for listeners seeking to understand the complexities of high-profile legal cases, offering historical context and expert analysis to illuminate the proceedings of the Diddy trial.

Transcript

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[Amy]

Hey there folks. As of this recording, the jury in the Diddy trial is going back in to continue their deliberations. We do not know how long this could possibly go, but it got us to thinking, how long have juries gone in previous big media celebrity cases? I guess you could put it right. Robe. So hey there folks. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ And Robe. So some of the first, you start thinking about some of these cases, how long these deliberations could go. I think there are a few, you know, an OJ Pops in everybody's mind.

[Rodney Williams]

Of course. Of course. And when you go back and look at some of these big trials as we've done here, it's shocking because they run the gamut. There's no rhyme or reason just how long juries end up taking to deliberate regardless of how long the trial actually went. So yeah, O.J. simpson, 1995. The trial went on for eight months and he was ultimately found not guilty on two counts of murder. How long did the jury deliberate for an eight month trial when O.J. simpson's life was on the line? How long?

[Amy]

Just four hours.

[Rodney Williams]

Four hours.

[Amy]

Four hours, as crazy as that sounds and everything that was at stake in the eight months that it took? You pointed out this before. Did he do it or did he not do it? It's kind of that simple.

[Rodney Williams]

There weren't complicated charges.

[Amy]

Did this. This is murder. Or he did not murder. And so to that point, but it's still kind of astonishing, a trial that big, something that was publicized under that much public scrutiny.

[Rodney Williams]

Judge Ito, you remember, I remember all the characters and Mark Herman, Marsha Clark, we watched it all. I was in my first newsroom in 1995 and we were all Cato. Oh, Cato.

[Amy]

Kalyn. Yeah, I still don't understand why he was.

[Rodney Williams]

I really didn't get that either. He lived in the back, like pool house or something. But anyway, yes, everyone remembers where they were. But to think that it only took four hours. And by the way, closing arguments in the O.J. simpson trial took four days.

[Amy]

Yeah, we were talking about this trial, the Diddy trial that they ran over because it was five hours. Okay, pipe down. I'm sure somewhere those attorneys were laughing at anybody suggesting that the Diddy trial lawyers went long. So that's O.J. simpson. That's the first one pops into mind. So this, this is some of the others we're going to go through with you and just try to start thinking about them yourself. Scott Peterson, Casey Anthony R. Kelly, the Menendez brothers, George Zimmerman, Derek Chauvin, of course, convicted in the murder of George Floyd, Michael Jackson and Charles Manson. Those are the ones we decided to pull up and we were just curious to see. And I absolutely had no idea. So let's go to Scott Peterson first. A lot of people remember this, of course, convicted two counts of murder of his wife Lacy and their unborn child. This trial out in California, of course, went five months. This as this was as big of a trial as you can imagine.

[Rodney Williams]

And he is still making headlines, by the way, because he is with the Innocence Project. He is looking to get a new trial. He has maintained his innocence from the beginning. We have talked to his attorney, Mark Garagos, who also believes that Scott Peterson is innocent. But yeah, five month trial. He was found guilty on two counts of murder. The jury deliberation time on this one man, it took a while. It was seven days. However, they had to restart twice because of the dismissal of two jurors. We thought that it was messy with the Diddy jurors. No, the Scott Peterson trial had all sorts of juror issues. The final jury, though, when they finally put it together, only deliberated seven hours to come up with that. Guilty on two counts of murder. But we shall see what happens in that case. That that is not done yet.

[Amy]

And we should use this case now to make that point. If anything were to happen with a juror on this Diddy trial, if Somebody got dismissed or some, whatever might come up. You never know with this jury. If somebody got dismissed, they would be required to start the deliberations over again.

[Rodney Williams]

And that's why they didn't want juror number 25 to leave. When at first it seemed as though he couldn't follow the judge's instructions. Somehow he fell in line. And they've, well, they've, they're making their way. All right, Casey Anthony. That was back in 2011. This one was a shocking verdict for those of us who covered this case. She, of course, was accused of murdering her two year old daughter. She was found not guilty of first degree murder. The jury deliberation time on this one, shocking to me. Just 10 hours. They took two days, but five hours, I guess each day, give or take. That that was a quick decision to have it be as surprising as it was.

[Amy]

I'm trying to track down, while I'm talking to you, how long that trial took. It was in the summer there, July 4th. When did it start? I'm looking, looking, looking, looking, looking. That's always important to try to track down here as I'm talking. But yes, it's Casey Anthony. That was another major, another very much highly publicized trial. And where am I here, Casey? 10 hours.

[Rodney Williams]

I mean, 10 hours of deliberation. Yeah, I mean, that was a quick decision. And it was a long, drawn out case that was being tried in the media for sure. I was working for the Today show back then, and we had Casey Anthony's parents on our couch. It seemed as though it was at least once a week. So they were trying this case in the press even before it went all the way to the courts. But yeah, they decided quickly on that one.

[Amy]

R. Kelly, he actually had two separate trials here to consider. One was in 2021. This is when he was found guilty of nine counts of racketeering, specifically nine counts of racketeering. How long did it take that jury? Two days.

[Rodney Williams]

Two days. The length of the trial was six weeks. So that, I mean, that makes sense because the racketeering thing clearly is complicated. And that was what he was found guilty of for his first trial. He had a second trial. This was out of Chicago, I believe.

[Amy]

This is on child pornography charges.

[Rodney Williams]

Child pornography charges. The jury deliberation time, 11 hours over two days. So they took the same amount of time to try and figure out whether or not he was guilty of child pornography as racketeering. Interesting.

[Amy]

Another case here that again, it's an oldie but a goodie, if you will, in that it's something we've been with for the past 30 plus years, but it's still making headlines. The Menendez brothers, what's the latest with him? Now? They've been trying for the past almost a year, like actual hearings about them possibly getting out of prison. But then there's some delay and then a new prosecutor gets elected and all kinds of stuff.

[Rodney Williams]

Yeah, they suffered some political setbacks with the election in November because the DA there was absolutely paving the way. And then the new DA said, yeah, not so fast. However, Gavin Newsom is looking into potentially giving them clemency, and they also are up for parole. So they were there, they were resentenced. And so that means they're up for parole because they've already served the, this certain amount of time because they were convicted under the age of 25. There are all of these little rules, but bottom line, yeah, they could be getting out very soon. Their trials, however, they were tried together, but Eric's trial was 19 days. Lyle's trial was 25 days.

[Amy]

I didn't remember. These two were actually tried separately initially. Separately. And Eric Menendez's jury was out 19 days and came back no verdict. Hung jury, Lyle, same thing. They took 25 days and came back no verse. Wow.

[Rodney Williams]

I didn't realize that.

[Amy]

I did not remember that took place. So no worries there. They decide to try them again, try them together, and then they were found guilty. And that jury took five days.

[Rodney Williams]

Is it because in their separate trials they could point the finger at the other brother?

[Amy]

No, I did not remember that at all. But to think that a, a jury in that case, they deliberated almost a month, A month.

[Rodney Williams]

And they, that's some, that's some dedication and still came back with a hung jury. So, yes, when they were tried together, they were found guilty. That jury deliberation time still took a while. That was five days. That's, that's almost, that's a full week in court speak for them to come up with that guilty verdict. And now, well, we shall see if the Menendez brothers actually walk out of prison this year.

[Amy]

2013, of course, George Zimmerman found not guilty in the death of Trayvon Martin. This was, I mean, this was as hot of a political and racial hot button case as you're going to see. This was a difficult time for the country and the conversations we were having around that time, but he was ultimately found not guilty. Now, as complicated as this case was, robes, it took them two days.

[Rodney Williams]

Yeah, but still, that's 16 hours of deliberation. When you look at some of these other deliberation times, it's not as much as you might think with what was at stake with the political and racial pressure that was on them. I mean, wow, that was one where the world was certainly watching as well. And there were a lot of very strong reactions to that not guilty verdict.

[Amy]

All right, well folks, Derek Chauvin, Michael Jackson and Charles Manson, one of them. Their jury took nine days to come to a verdict. Stay here.

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[Rodney Williams]

Welcome back everyone. As of this recording, we are still waiting for the final verdicts to come down in the Diddy trial. So we thought we'd go over some of the main verdicts or some big verdicts and the time it took to deliberate over the past several years. And we're going to begin now with Derek Chauvin. He was of course found guilty in the murder of George Floyd. Floyd, again, a huge trial with the world watching and so much pressure on this jury. And they decided pretty quickly. In just two days, over 10 hours, the jury decided that Derek Chauvin was guilty.

[Amy]

A lot of people looked like, why'd it take that long?

[Rodney Williams]

Yeah, that's true.

[Amy]

It was a nine minute video of him doing what he did when I had to revisit that. Uh, but Michael Jackson, um, I don't have the year on this, but Robes, I don't know what I, I forgot that. Yes, in fact, he was on trial for very serious crimes, child molestation charges. And there were 10 counts he was facing.

[Rodney Williams]

I didn't realize there were that many. I remember I didn't, I didn't follow this trial as closely as I had others. I think maybe it was a little bit before my time, but yes, 10 counts of child molestation. And to think with all of that testimony and all of the eyes in that courtroom, he was found not guilty on all 10 counts. So how long did the jury take to come up with that decision? It was quite a while. And that's understandable given all the testimony. Seven days, 30 plus hours. The jury deliberated and ultimately unanimously agreed that he was not guilty of those heinous charges.

[Amy]

You know, how do you divide that up? How many hours a day is that? If you do seven days, it's 35.

[Rodney Williams]

Hours minus five hours a day or.

[Amy]

Yeah, under four to five hours a day. This jury, I'm curious to know what they, what they have the stomach for, how they're doing. They're exhausted. This is the end for them. It's all emotional. I wonder what this Diddy jury. They're working nine to five at this point. Oh, the fourth, they're out of there by the fourth of July.

[Rodney Williams]

Oh, yes, I think they'd have to be.

[Amy]

All right. And the last one here we have for you had to. This is an oldie Charles Manson facing some very serious charges. Serious and a lot. He was tried, I think with three other women were on his followers were on trial with him on this one. Found guy guilty on 27 counts of first degree murder and conspiracy. I believe this is back in 1971. And as you could imagine, this jury took some time.

[Rodney Williams]

Yes, but I didn't realize it was 27 counts of first degree murder and conspiracy. So, yes, the jury took its time coming up. And can you imagine just going through the evidence of 27 counts of murder and each individual person is a victim. That matters. That needs to be considered. So, yes, it took them nine days, 43 hours of exhaustive deliberations to come up with that guilty verdict.

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